Hobson: Bengals Likely to Look Outside the Organization for a New Offensive Coordinator
Just in case you don't know, like if you literally crawled out from under a massive rock just five minutes ago, the Bengals fired offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski today. Obviously, wishing really hard at every shooting star, making wishes at 11:11 (a.m. and p.m.) and pulling out all of my eye lashes and blowing them out of my fingers has worked (you have no idea how important eye lashes are until you don't have them anymore.... you're welcome).
Even though many have wondered if the Bengals would promote someone from within the organization, like quarterback's coach Ken Zampese, to be the new offensive coordinator, Geoff Hobson says that it will likely be an outside hire.
It is believed that is going to be the only change on an offensive staff that has taken the bulk of the heat for the Bengals' 4-12 season and indications are it is going to be an outside hire.
If the Bengals do decide to look elsewhere for their new offensive coordinator, Joe Reedy has an idea of who they may contact. He says that Brad Childress, Jeremy Bates, Norm Chow and Jim Zorn may be first to be considered by the Bengals for the job.
Mike Brown has already said that Childress will not be involved with the Bengals in any way in 2011 so we can safely rule him out. Bates, on the other hand, could be considered even though he only has one season of experience as an offensive coordinator.
Jeremy Bates — Lasted only one season as Seattle’s offensive coordinator. According to ESPN.com’s Mike Sando, one of the reasons why he thought Pete Carroll got rid of Bates was because Bates is the opposite of Carroll. According to Sando Bates was "gruff and takes a harder line in his approach to players." Then again, that might be the approach this unit needs. Has experience working under Carroll, Jon Gruden and Mike Shanahan.
Carson Palmer may be the most familiar with Norm Chow, who was his offensive coordinator while he played college football at University of Southern California. Reedy also mentioned ex-Raven's coach Jim Zorn has more experience as a quarterbacks coach than an offensive coordinator.
The two coaches that Reedy feels could be promoted from within the organization, if they decide to go that route, are quarterbacks coach Ken Zampese and wide receivers coach Mike Sheppard. Zampese comes from an impressive offensive coordinator pedigree; he's the son of famous offensive coordinator Ernie Zampese who called the plays for the Chargers, Los Angeles Rams, Cowboys and Patriots. In 15 seasons as an offensive coordinator Earnie Zampese only had four teams in which their passing attack wasn't ranked in the top-14.
Less may be known about Sheppard.
Mike Sheppard — Has a 26-year relationship with Lewis. It was Sheppard who hired Lewis to be an assistant at Long Beach State and New Mexico. He has offensive coordinator experience in the league with San Diego, Buffalo and New Orleans. Also has experience as a QB coach if Zampese got promoted.
Now that the Bengals have fired Bob Bratkowski, they're on the hunt for a new offensive coordinator. It's going to be an interesting couple weeks with the news of different coaches coming into Cincinnati to interview. Who do you think should be the new offensive coordinator?
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Jeremy Bates sounds like a good possibility.
Seems like a coach that would fit the style we need, and called the plays during Jay Cutler’s time in Denver, when they were scoring tons of points. Norm Chow would be good because it fits the “make Carson happy” bill. Brad Childress has had success before.
And like I said in another board, Mike Tice could be good….
I'd like
Zorn, Chilly or Bates.
Norm Chow is eh.. Never thought too high of him at the pro level. Seemed much much better at the NCAA level.
Hopefully my picture doesn't show my bias.
Don't think Shephard has done a great job at receivers coach
So why promote him. Either Zampese or Chow.
As a Cleveland Cavalier fan
Part of me doesn’t want to buy into Palmer to much.. letting him get his way on everything. Appease him but don’t hire coaches because of him.
Hopefully my picture doesn't show my bias.
If we are hitching our wagon to Palmer
then we might as well give him as close to what he wants as we can….then/when/if he fails we give him the boot as well as the coaches he wanted. Not only is that logical- it makes Mike Brown sense…..and makes rebuilding even easier once the end of Palmer’s time comes. And yes i realize thats basically MB genuflecting to Carson, but if you’re going to hitch that wagon, you might as well give it some new tires and a tune up
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by TruWhoDey on Jan 31, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not that simple as give them the boot.
When it fails, it will set us back for a few years. Unless giving Carson Palmer the OC of his choice is going to bring a Super Bowl to Cincinnati I really don’t think it’s worth the effort. I understand the argument of all in for your franchise QB. But the thing is Carson Palmer is not an elite QB anymore and is on the decline. Why go all in like that with a QB who’s name isn’t Peyton Manning (or at least a current pro bowler)?
I just don’t see it with Palmer.
Hopefully my picture doesn't show my bias.
I tend to agree
He’s far less mobile. And this league is showing that mobility is a very important QB aspect for when the line breaks down as a result of receivers being covered. And let’s face it, our line will break down. He is on his last year anyway isn’t he??
2012 - Playoff bound!!!
Yeah, Palmer seems to need a whole lot in order to succeed
Good quarterbacks find a way to get it done no matter what the teams deficiencies are. How many more years of excuses for lack of performance can be made for him? I believe going in to the 2010 season with all of the weapons he had to throw to it was supposed to be a make or break year. He looked like he failed pretty miserably to me. If he goes somewhere else he will fail there too, don’t be fooled by this guy, 05’ & 06’ were a fluke, the guy is a turnover machine.
MIKE BROWN STEP DOWN!!!
Kinda meh on Chow, I don't particularly follow college (making two trips to Fricker's a weekend with no car and as a college kid seems meh, I prioritize).
so I dunno anything about him, anyone wanna give me facts?
I’d say Bates is the guy I’d want off that list.
he was fired from the titans 2 years ago
before then coahed the usc trojans and their professional team
He just signed on to be the OC for Utah
UCLA 2008-10 OC
Titans 2005-07 OC
USC 2001-04 OC
NC St 2000 OC
BYU 1973-99 QB/OC/ ast. HC
Great career, but it’s a great COLLEGE career. During his tenure at Tennessee the titans ranked 21 in overall offense. So his NFL stat’s don’t exactly wow.
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Uh? So?
What about Pete Carroll? What about Bill Belichick’s run with the Browns? Lots of guys need second chances.
Ok
B.B. had his hands tied and wanted to do what he’s doing now by having a hand in it all dealing the players when/how he wanted to. Also Bill Belichick was a head coach in the NFL for more then 2 seasons. And has been working in NFL since 1975. Norm Chow has been in the NCAA since 1973 outside of his short stint with the titans.
And Pete Carroll made the playoffs with a 7-9 record. Don’t add him to your list of NCAA to NFL success stories just yet. ( I think he’ll do fine but not a strong example)
If you get him away from Utah, which I don’t think anyone will. I don’t think there’s any reason to believe he’s interested in going to the NFL level again. I think his interest right now is to help build Utah up in the Pac-10.
Hopefully my picture doesn't show my bias.
Here's what Field Gulls, the Seahawks forum, said to sum up Jeremy Bates:
That’s the final word. If Bates, a creative, hard working and young coach, does eventually succeed with another team, he will be but the latest in a long line of coaches that didn’t break through right away but kept working, working, working, competing and believing in themselves. I wish him the best. I loved what he did in Seattle, loved the range of his play calling, how he seemed to marry the creativity of Knapp with the execution of Holmgren, the way his play calling was daring, and how passionate and committed he seemed. But I also recognize how little I actually know about him. His public support of Hasselbeck didn’t encourage me. The way he insisted that Hasselbeck could run his system, though it was obvious he couldn’t, and how long it took Bates to adjust, worried me. Sometimes his play calling ranged towards the indefensible: pounding the rock with Lynch, fades to Butler, rolling out Hasselbeck in his own end zone, etc. Overall though, I thought he was promising, and I thought his potential was immense, and I am very sad to see him go.
I like bates
because he would bring discipline and I heard he was a master.
"I gotta show em' how to eat right man, that's all...I got all five food groups. Pancakes, sausage-egg McMuffin, cinnamon roll, large orange juice... I just be juiced all day."
Here is the post on the seahawks board when he got fired.
Seem rather pissed.
nice link!
"I gotta show em' how to eat right man, that's all...I got all five food groups. Pancakes, sausage-egg McMuffin, cinnamon roll, large orange juice... I just be juiced all day."
hadn't heard much about this guy
but i’m liking ALOT of what i’m reading now….
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to be fair
i’d probably like peeing in my own eyes right now I’m so happy Brat’s gone…but seriously, this Bates Cat might look good in stripes
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i want bates
I think his style would mesh well with our current players. And his approach and attitude is what this offense needs.
by JCompton41 on Jan 31, 2011 5:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Bates loves using two and three TE sets
Something Marvin likes.
Plus he lets his TEs go down the seam…. Imagine Gresham running a route other than a 4 yard drag on 3rd and 15
by Sheffieldbengal on Jan 31, 2011 5:08 PM EST reply actions
It's hard to imagine that..
But that’s because I’m so used to the dumb plays of Brat.
Hopefully my picture doesn't show my bias.
after the run up the middle
on 3rd and 12 makes it 4th and 11
just imagine
Kelly pwning defenders while Gresham and Coffman fill up the middle, letting Jerome do his thing
"I gotta show em' how to eat right man, that's all...I got all five food groups. Pancakes, sausage-egg McMuffin, cinnamon roll, large orange juice... I just be juiced all day."
by hachigo! on Jan 31, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Blasphemy!
Using a players strengths… that’s stupid.. It will never catch on in football..
Hopefully my picture doesn't show my bias.
I just made a fresh batch of Kool-aid. Just waitin for the ice to melt a little
2010 - The Year of the LOLCats.
Voted Zorn to spite the Ravens
Seriously though, this is making Bates sound good. But such is the case whenever someone is excited about something. I would want to hear both sides of this guy. If anyone could find some of the cons to picking up bates i would be very appreciative
Flying is as simple as throwing yourself at the ground and missing
Check out the comments at the seahawks site, some people think he did some bonehead playcalling that didn’t mesh well with hasselbeck.also too many fade routes to smaller receivers.
by ddbumpus on Jan 31, 2011 6:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I voted for Chow, but...
…after doing some research, I’d rather have Bates. I like his attitude and willingness to try different things, and I’d rather go young than old. Let’s build for the future.
by Big Sky Bengal on Jan 31, 2011 6:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Brett Farve
He’s out of a job. May as well join the Bengals circus as a coach. :)

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