Offensive Rookie Of The Year Race Down To Two Quarterbacks?

by Josh Kirkendall on Oct 16, 2011 11:18 PM EDT in Stats

CINCINNATI, OH - OCTOBER 16: Andy Dalton #14 of the Cincinnati Bengals throws a pass during the NFL game against the Indianapolis Colts at Paul Brown Stadium on October 16, 2011 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Bengals won 27-17. (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)

Two rookie quarterbacks started their respective team's first regular season game, launching their careers with starts every week since; Cincinnati Bengals' Andy Dalton and Carolina Panthers' Cam Newton. And there's more than a good chance that the offensive rookie of the year award will come down to these two men; with Newton putting together the more impressive statistics and Dalton putting together the more relevant ones -- wins.

Bengals wide receiver A.J. Green could factor into consideration, on pace to post 77 receptions for 1,208 yards receiving and nearly 11 touchdowns receiving. For now the Andy Dalton and Cam Newton comparisons.

	Andy Dalton	Cam Newton
Wins	4*	1
Completions	118	134
Attempts	189	229
Pct. Complete	62.4	58.4
Yards	1,311	1,847
Avg./Att	6.9	8.1
Touchdowns	7	7
Interceptions	5	9
Passer Rating	84.3	78.3
Rushing Yards	19	210
Rushing Touchdowns	1	6

* Started against the Cleveland Browns but left at half time with an injury while the Bengals were losing by one point.

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Dalton and Green would split whatever support they'll get

if Newton plays reasonably well he’ll win (not necessarily deserve it).

by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 16, 2011 11:25 PM EDT reply actions

This is Newton's award simply because nobody expected this and it's such a great story

Everyone always says that a QB should be judged by wins, but when it comes to awards that’s not the case.

2011 Year of the Red Rifle

by Throw the ball on Oct 16, 2011 11:38 PM EDT reply actions

sorry

the panthers are still in the running for having the first overall pick in next years draft that don’t sound so great to me.

by bengalinflorida on Oct 16, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions

I dunno

Newton is starting to slip after an extremely fast start, and Dalton has looked improved almost every game. We’ll see where the rest of the season takes us

by The Dealio on Oct 17, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions

Those rushing stats

are probably going to play a huge factor when it comes to decision time. Everyone knows that when you have a college QB with rushing talent, it is rarely, if ever, expected to flourish in the NFL. That innate talent is seen as QB potential based purely on the athleticism. More often than not, the position coaches would ease the player into staying in the pocket and being “an NFL Quarterback”. Since Cam has shown he can not only move the chains, but also get into the endzone and work well outside of the pocket, I think analysts will ignore the fact that he is failing at most important aspect in sports – bring home the W.

by downtowndirtybrown on Oct 17, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions

Newton has more yards, passing and rushing.

He’s got a higher YPA. That’s about it. He also has more INTs and a lower completion percentage. Shouldn’t the passer rating, combined with wins decide the best QB? Or does Cam get it because he’s a cool story and he’s ‘electrifying’..

by Cry on Oct 17, 2011 12:30 AM EDT reply actions

You hit the nail on the head...

with the very last part of your statement.

by ddbumpus on Oct 17, 2011 1:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Cam is leading the league in rushing TDs

His total TD to INT ratio jumps to 13-9 when you add rushing TDs. Dalton is 8-5. I think both Dalton and Green have a shot at the RoY, but I think its still Newton’s to lose based on Newton’s performance.

It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain

by jim0ijk on Oct 17, 2011 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions

Cammie had a rough game yesterday.

A couple more of those and if we can win a couple games were are not supposed to win (Steelers/Ravens) and Dalton can really make up the slack.

Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?

To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

by UpStateMike on Oct 17, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions

As things stand

I’m OK if Newton got it. The two of them are very different QB’s, so you could use stats to support either. The big difference between Dalton and Newton when it comes to the win column is that Dalton has a defence that holds the other team off the scoresheet for much of the game, whereas Carolina’s D allows 30-odd points a game an awful lot.

by Mr. X on Oct 17, 2011 1:11 AM EDT reply actions

But Dalton has also

come back and got the points needed to win.

by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 17, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions

Another way to look at it is

His D gives up so many points, he is forced to throw more times then Dalton, which is going to result in more yards and more TD’s most likely ;)

by C1ncy4Life on Oct 17, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I will trade a shot

and remember I’m saying a shot, at the playoffs over some meaningless award.

by Ochocinco on Oct 17, 2011 7:45 AM EDT reply actions

It's a shame your namesake didn't do that a bit more

"Suck for Luck"? Forget that
2010 was "Schemin’ for Green and Faultin’ for Dalton."

by supergrover on Oct 17, 2011 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions

I don't really care about all of this. Dalton doesn't I am sure.

That is why I think he deserves it. But this is primarily media driven. All I would say is that if you have a choice between Newton’s stats and Dalton’s win loss record, which would you choose?

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Oct 17, 2011 8:19 AM EDT reply actions

Newton will get it because he has the notoriety, but

Dalton has led his team to victories. Newton certainly could add some W’s, but Dalton is performing like Roethlisberger and Flacco in their rookie seasons. I’d value that over the yardage and TD totals.

by nightraven00 on Oct 17, 2011 8:32 AM EDT reply actions

it is too early to say. lets talk about it after steeler week.

by andyfrombrooklyn on Oct 17, 2011 8:35 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs

Ill take a Win

over a Look good QB that losses every day…..

Cams mistakes have cost his team his mistakes come at trying to air it out to much and not controlling the game.. his or the coaches fault idk.. but its bad

by Bengalsfan024 on Oct 17, 2011 11:31 AM EDT reply actions

newton will win

And completely deserves to win. He has put up stats, and that is what wins the awards.

by JCompton41 on Oct 17, 2011 11:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

as much as i agree with you

As I continue to watch both of em play, as d coordinators get more film on newton, his stats are going down while daltons has been very steady and the more I watch the national media outlets the more I see dalton getting praise for saving the bengals season, newtons not saving anything but his less than stellar reputation.

by joeb698 on Oct 17, 2011 12:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

From the Mothership

Quarterback Andy Dalton leaped up the charts off his 111-rating day and now is ahead of Carolina’s Cam Newton in most categories for rookies. Dalton is 17th in passing, Newton 25th…

by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 17, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions