Jason Cole: Oakland Raiders "Trying Hard" To Make A Deal For Carson Palmer

A first rd next year, and a 4th & 5th in 2013 sounds fair to me!!!

Mike Brown: I wanted to stick to it, but I got overwhelmed by Oakland’s offer

Carson Palmer: Gets to play on west coast

Raiders: Season isn’t lost on the shoulder’s of Kyle Boller.

How much is a playoff spot worth to you this year? That’s the question you have to ask yourself if you are Oakland. I wish Al Davis was still alive.

Everyone should send an email to Bengals.com (unless someone has Mike or Katie’s email) and say trade the bum. Not in a mean or disrespectful way, but in a manner that says we think you won Mikey, now get the best deal you can for him. Ideally we can get a conditional 1st rounder for him.

There are moral and ethical absolutes! This, IMO, is one of them. Someone has to stand firm and represent the rule of law. Do what is right – not what is easy. We need more of that in this country and you can provide a great example of living with the consequences of your decisions.

yes trade him. get something. but trade him. the raiders are desperate. the timing is right.

That turns into a first if they make the playoffs either year. Which is a real possibility in that division. San Diego is overrated year in and year out. Carson could make the Raiders contenders.

But with less than 48 hours to make the deal, i can’t imagine it happens. If this had happened last week we might have a shot. The only real hope is if Hue Jackson really IS in charge, he might pull the trigger on a lopsided deal in our favor. I hate Mike Brown, but he’s had a lot more experience doing this than Jackson (20+ years vs. 9 days) and it wouldn’t be that shocking to see a desperate team get fleeced. It would also be a great way for Brown to save face in all of this. “I didn’t want to trade him, but look at the ridiculous price I got Oakland to give us?”

Conditional 2nd rounder plus a DB?

Raiders at Bengals.

Skipped all the comments so my blood pressure remains stable.

Trade him. We won’t. Okay. Next topic.

the more I realize just how much of a favor that he has done for us Cincinnati fans.
It’s unlikely that the Bengals would have drafted Dalton or any other QB in the 2nd round, if #9 hadn’t been so vocal in his dissatisfaction with playing for this team.
The team is better off with Dalton, anyway. We’ve seen that after just 6 games into #14’s rookie season.
Regarding trading Palmer, MB has got to be enjoying every minute of Palmer squirming over the matter of not being able to play the game, until MB is good and ready to trade him away. I think that Brown is smart to wait until next March to pull the trigger on a deal for Palmer. He will be worth more then to any team that needs a Mediocre Starter at QB, or perhaps a reasonably good backup, at that position.
In any event, i would have to agree that MB holds all the cards right now, where Carson Palmer is concerned.

Carson still has until tomorrow to report to practice. He wanted to play in California, he has a good history with Hue jackson, the Raiders are on the cusp of being legitimate contenders, Al Davis is out of the picture (all due respect). he’s reading all of the same reports we are so he knows Oakland is desperate and wants him. Why not jump on the first plane and show up at PBS asking for the remainder of this year’s paycheck this afternoon?

Yes, we have the cap space to accommodate it. But what ONE thing does Mike Brown value more than his ego? His money. A combination of a serious, good offer from Oakland, a compressed timeframe to make a decision, and the prospect of having to pay Carson $7+ million to do nothing but shake up a locker room that has clearly jelled without him might push this over the tipping point.

Bengals Trade Carson Palmer and Ced Ben and 2012 3rd

For for Oaklands 1st in 2012 and Player (Michael Bush/ McFadden(doubtful) ) get something done that makes everyone happy….

I’d like to see the Bengals give Oakland Carson and our second round pick and we get back in return Michael Bush and there 1rst round pick. This way we get Michael Bush as a contingency plan if Ced gets supsended. It also does not leave Oakland with there cuppards completely bare for next years draft, which I think they would be reluctant to do if they had to give up there first round pick for Carson. I beleive Michael Bush is restricted free agent after the season and they are obviously pretty set at running back with McFadden so putting him the deal would make some since for the Raiders.

honestly i could see him going to seatle they have 1-3 rounders this year who wants to wait two years for i pick for palmer i dont i would rather him retire. Oakland fan your delusional why first of all would we take a lb or wr when we have got plenty also the only thing besides a first rounder is a 2nd or 3rd in two years. I think seatle and miami would offer us a second or third this year. not to mention both look like they may not make the playoffs more and nothing would make me happier then palmer never doing anything.

I know it will never happen but how about we give Oakland, Carson Palmer, our first round pick, and a fifth round pick (we have 2) for McFadden:).

This is just silly talk in here! 2nd or 3rd round pick. That’s just not going to cut it. Call me Mike Brown, but I’d rather he just sit there than take anything less than a 1st round pick. And really is that enough? Kevin Kolb who was unproven and is proving it just fetched a 2nd round pick, and a Pro Bowl CB who was the 16th pick in th 2008 draft. So they got a 2nd round pick, and first rounder that was already developed. That’s as good or better than a 1st + 2nd rounder. And if I’m Brown I settle for nothing too short of this. The 1st round pick is a must, and then he must get at lest a starting level player or a 3rd or 4th round pick. And if you don’t beleive that desperate teams won’t give that much for a good QB, just look at the Kolb trade. Palmer’s value is higher than Kolb’s. Teams right now are just offering half the value for Palmer becasue they assume Brown has to trade him. He’s taking the position that he would rather get nothing than to get so little for Palmer. Once teams realize he will not trade him for much under fair value (I think they may already get it). Then you will see some stronger offers when the new league season begins in march. It’s just funny that you guys think he should trade him for a 3rd round pick. That’s crazy. He’s a Pro Bowl QB and he has over 20k career passing yards. And he’s a QB. Last time I checked QB get way more in trades than any other position. Teams have been known to give up several picks and/or players to get a QB. I think Brown knows he has a commodity that will be hot for a couple years. And he’s going to hold it until he gets close to fair market value, or not sell it at all. And if we were talking the stock market, or other businesses, this would be true too. You can’t afford to invest so much in something and get so little in return. Getting some token value only offsets a very small amount of loses. So it is not worth it. And when you invest that much in one asset, you can’t take such a loss. He either needs Carson to return him 1st round pick and more, to replace the investment, or he has to let him retire and collect back about 6-8 million that he undoubtedly will be owed. What other teams will start to understand soon is that we don’t need Palmer, we aren’t paying him, and we have already eaten our loses in this situation. So we just aren’t going to trade him without proper compensation, because it just doesn’t have that much bearing on anything. And I believe teams will eventually give it up. If they don’t what’s a 3rd round pick worth? We lost our 8 year franchise/pro bowl QB who was the first overall pick in his draft. We’ve already replaced him. Now he’s just an asset that should be managed to get you the most value in a trade. And to me that would include sitting on it for awhile. Trust me we’ll still be able to get a 3rd round pick for Palmer in 2 seasons.

For all the yelling at cole for being a terrible journalist, if a journalist at all, when he writes something we agree with, noone seems to be questioning his credentials.