Should Level of Competition Concern Bengals?
After six games the Bengals have already matched their win total from last season. They are riding a three-game win streak and currently trail the Baltimore Ravens in the AFC North. Andy Dalton and A.J. Green have both made relatively smooth transitions from college to professional football and overall the team has been performing well against their opponents. Everything seems to be falling into place, right?
Well, one would think so. However, there are critics around the league who believe that the Bengals have played the way they have due to the level of competition that they have squared-off against. Through the first six weeks of the season Bengals opponents are a combined 13-21. But is that something that the Bengals should be concerned with?
It isn't hard to dispute that the Bengals have endured a relatively "easy" road to their early season success. Hell, some might even argue that the Bengals should be undefeated. But that's not the case. It hasn't always been smooth sailing as three of their four victories have been of the comeback variety. The Bengals have had their share of tough opponents and easier opponents, so to say.
Against the Buffalo Bills the Bengals battled one of the top offenses in the league. Going into the week four match-up the Bengals were clearly the underdogs after the Bills handed the "mighty" New England Patriots a loss. Ryan Fitzpatrick looked like an unstoppable force that was ready to plow over the Cincinnati defense. During this showdown against the Bills the Bengals were down by 14 points at halftime. It took a second half surge and fourth quarter comeback for the Bengals to come out victorious. The Bengals defense decided to show up in the second half and held Buffalo to merely a field goal. If Cincinnati's defense performance hadn't improved in the second half the Bengals would have been handed another loss.
The previous week the Bengals endured a hard fought battle against Alex Smith and the 49ers. San Francisco has one of the better defenses in the league and Smith has been performing better than anticipated. This game displayed what two of the top defenses had to offer. At halftime the only scoring that happened was a field goal by Mike Nugent. San Francisco had to battle just to put up any points. And a crucial fourth quarter interception thrown by Andy Dalton ultimately cost the Bengals the chance at coming out victorious.
"San Fran has a great record, Buffalo has a great record," S Chris Crocker said. "It really doesn't matter who you play."
Buffalo and San Francisco are a combined 9-3. Both of those games were very close in the end. The Browns, Broncos, Jaguars, and Colts are a combined 4-18. And the Bengals went 3-1 in those four games. The only loss came against Denver.
It's not as if the Bengals have been blown out when they lose. In their two losses the Bengals have lost by a combined seven points. But they haven't really blown out anyone up to this point either. In their last two games the Bengals have faced off against teams that are a combined 1-11. They won both of those games by a combined 20 points.
The level of competition hasn't necessarily been top-notch, but that shouldn't matter. At this point it doesn't matter how good an opponent is, a win is a win. As long as the Bengals ignore the critics and non-believers they could very well set themselves up for an impressive season.
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The bengals have showed they’re not a bad team, and that their defense will keep them in most games. But they won’t get the plays like the fumbles every week, especially when they get into playing better teams. I don’t think we can realistically expect playoff success until we see them take down Tennessee, and win against the ravens and Steelers.
by JCompton41 on Oct 17, 2011 7:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
who you play matters
It’s not all that matters, of course, but I don’t think the Bengals would be 4-2 if their first 6 games were against the top teams.
The Bengals almost always seem to play to the level of their competition. The Broncos are horrid this year and the 49ers are pretty darn good. Both of their games against the Bengals looked pretty much the same, though. Evenly matched teams slugging out to a close finish. Their last two wins, against two of the weaker teams in the league in Indy & Jax, were both a lot closer than the final score would indicate and they were only 10 point wins.
Considering all the youth on the team I think there’s a lot to be excited about. Can’t wait for the Pittsburgh & Baltimore games.
This is a really good assessment.
The reason this team is surprising people is because it’s exceeding expectations, not because it’s clearly a great team. Nobody’s calling the Bengals elite, and that’s because they aren’t elite right now.
They’re exceeding expectations in the sense that they were “supposed” to be terrible. They went 4-2 against bad teams, which suggests they are an average team. Above expectations.
However, it’s also true that teams grow over the course of a season, especially teams with little experience at key positions, like quarterback, wide receiver and offensive coordinator. They will get better. We got through the easy part of the schedule, and now we can see what the team is made of when they get a bye week to prepare for Seattle, and then have to come back across the country to play the Titans, Steelers and Ravens. Should be a fun ride!
Andy Dalton: An American Hero
by Pardon_My_French on Oct 17, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Either way,
you still have to play the games.
by whodeycommish14 on Oct 17, 2011 7:14 PM EDT reply actions
Okay
The Steelers opponents are 13-20. Anybody questioning them?
Oh and those last two 1-11 opponents that the Bengals outscoured by a combined 20 points? The Steelers have also beat them . . . by a combined 7 points.
"Pawtucket Patriot Beer. If you drink it, hot women will have sex in your backyard."
steelers also just played in the superbowl
And the bengals were just 4-12. That makes it a lot harder to take a team serious.
by JCompton41 on Oct 17, 2011 8:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bill Parcels said "You are what your record is"
While he wasn’t really meaning it this way, these are still NFL teams that we have wins against. We’ve won on the road, we’ve won against teams with a winning record, and we’ve played everybody to the end.
The competition will get tougher as the season goes, but that gives these young players to get some confidence and a little more experience.
In the end, the “experts” didn’t think we would win more than a game or two. We’re performing better then expected so of course they are going to make an excuse for why they were wrong. To me, winning 12 games isn’t what’s most important this season. It’s that this team continue to make strides and become a better team for the next 5-6 years. That’s what I’ll judge them on, and if the wins keep coming that’s even better.
Ravens
Their opponents have a 12-22 record.
by MrMcLargeHuge on Oct 17, 2011 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
you can't control other teams records
The way I figure it we have played two good teams and we are 1-1 and four teams which aren’t making the playoffs by a longshot and we are 3-1. I’m not sure what that says other than I think we are competitive
by goffchile on Oct 17, 2011 7:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Far as I'm concerned
They have exceeded expectations thus far and for a min let’s really think about it we never blew teams out I’m 33 and can count on 1 hand how many times I’ve seen my hometown team blow teams out! When we play well it’s never pretty but it gets the job done and this principle alone is going to carry our team past all the slick talking, writing analysts! Our defense is going to get better-scary ain’t it the offense is going to get better limit the mistakes always give ourselves a chance to win and I guess u can say I’ve bought in to what Marvin is preaching also keep up the good work guys our best surprising acts of the season has yet to come!
by Eye Of Tiger on Oct 17, 2011 7:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Andy "Duelin'" Dalton and the Green Gang
have a lot to proud of so far. If we had played our schedule backwards and were 4-2 EVERYONE would be dumbfounded. As it is, those talking heads who are supposed to know everything, and predicted us not to win a game, have to make themselves sound more informed than they actually are by pointing out strength of schedule. and if we beat the Sqeelers they will say it was because so and so was injured or Ben had a bad game blah blah blah. Bring the hate people, Bengals it for breakfast on game days.
Won't change till we beat the Ravens...
The Bengals are 10-5 in their last 15 games against the Ravens.
Dalton is currently the 17th ranked QB. Flacco is 23rd.
As MrMcLargeHuge pointed out, Ravens opponents are 12-22 (we only play two different teams than they do all year).
Bengals defense is ranked higher than the Ravens’, all year.
Yet the Ravens are universally praised and the Bengals get 12 seconds of air time on the major networks. We’ll see…
Run, pass, or boot!
12 seconds?
I guess I missed that, I didn’t see it on Sportscenter yet this season. Though they always have time to spout off about Palmer.
or 40 minutes on the 1-4 Eagles
Or 20 minutes every hour on two coaches that can’t manage to shake hands after a game.
You never see anything Cincinnati on ESPN unless it’s bad. They don’t even pick the Cincinnati games on ther pick show on NFL countdown 1/2 the time.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
I don't think Dalton will keep Carson's success against the Ravens this year.
I wish he would, but the way their defense closes out games and their play-making ability is off the charts.
by cincyplayoffwin2012 on Oct 17, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
they've always had a hard time on marvins defense, and especially zimmers defense.
I’m not sure we will beat them, but it should be a game we can have a chance to win. We will just need to capitalize on the chances we get. And I can see green or gresh getting a winning td on their suspect secondary.
by JCompton41 on Oct 17, 2011 10:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
against bad teams...
Wait you are judging it on the Monday night game against the Jets. the most over hyped and over rated team in the NFL right now.
This team is better than teams in the recent past and we have just as good a chance as ever to beat them.
This offense and defense is young and have had little playing time together. They are growing every week and barring injuries they can beat ANY team in the NFL— bar none.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
And the 49ers beat the Lions
while we lost, we had a close game against the 49ers. I think that says something too.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 17, 2011 8:08 PM EDT reply actions
If you want to make the playoffs, step 1 is consistently beating the bad teams on your sked
Bengals are 1-1 vs. teams with a winning record, 3-1 vs. losers. That’s just called taking care of business. Keep it up and they just might find themselves playing a few extra games this season.
I am happy with what we have done
We are 2-1 on the road, which is nice, in addition to being 4-2 overall, but I will be more impressed if we win 2 of the next 4. Our next 4 games will be real tests, and if we come out of that stretch with a winning record, I will be impressed, and willing to consider a play-off shot.
It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain
Ravens and Steelers are fo real
Even though they have played noone worth anything either. Yet I bet you won’t find these types of posts on their sites.
Leave it to the national media and Bengals fans to try and discredit ANYTHING the Bengals do or accomplish. Yet the Steelers and Ravens will get praised while beating a bunch of the same bad teams as well.
Bengals fans are miserable when they lose and miserable when they win. If we don’t win by 50 we are bad. Ravens and Steelers can win by 1 and they just tell us they played great defense.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
We'll see...
Last year we lost 12 games. 8 of those games were lost by 8 points or less. So does that mean we were nearly 12-4? No. We were 4-12. Yet the media will give the Eagles, a 2-4 team credit. Okay. They are 2-4. We have an easier schedule because we were 4-12. Thank gosh we did, as well….I think we needed that time to develop confidence in the Dalton Gang.
And yes, we get no credit for the 49er and Bills victories…so be it. Like all the players say…let them talk, we’ll just play. That’s how I see it. It is so great to see Andy dalton being a leader instead of punk a** CP9 getting yelled out by TO or Chad, for a route they screwed up. It is also hilarious that Chad’s silly butt is sitting on the sideline. He didn’t understand the playbook up there, and there is no Carson to blame it one. It says something about the Patriots that the silly side-show has been shut down.
As for Carson, it was his idea to bring the poison of TO to the locker room. So, after much wishy washy thought over the last 10 months, as much as I hate the Tyrant, Born Loser Mike Brown, I say let Carson sit. He did baby him and had his brother on the payroll, it was his fault TO came, and he was the wussy that let the TOCHO morons run the asylum….remember when they both went to the locker before 1/2 time and there was no WR for a play!? Heck we have recievers that run routes over the middle and block down field…like a real football team! LOL I also love the play calling by Gruden…thank Gosh Brat is gone……now if only we could get rid of our dear Born Loser owner….if only.
I love the new guys…they are so motivated and dedicated…not stuck in their selfishness like Ocho-stinko….

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