Should Brian Leonard be the starting Running Back?
This was a question I first pondered when the Bengals hired Jay Gruden as their offensive coordinator, and after 4 games I find myself still wondering, especially with what I saw at the end of the Bengals Bills game. When Gruden came on and began talking about using a hybrid West Coast offense, I remember contemplating if Benson would be the best choice at running back. I actually have liked Benson with the Bengals, but he's a power runner, with only so so hands. On the other hand over the last two years we have seen Leonard make great catch after great catch, and be able to churn out yards after the catch. With both things in-mind I had to question, whether Leonard might not be a better option for this team going forward?
From what I have seen over the years, West Coast offenses work best with a running back that can catch the ball, and on our team the best receiver out of the back field is far and away Brian Leonard. Leonard has shown that he can run the ball, and who does'nt believe that he is the best reciever out of all our running backs. I understand that Leonard will never be a threat to go the distance any time he touches the ball a la Chris Johnson, nor the power back that Adrian Peterson is, but is that what the Bengal's really need right now?
Yes, yes, I know no one would turn down either of those players, but there just is not that many guys like that out there. I think it would be better to have a guy that you can count on to get 4 yards when the team needs 3, who can be an outlet receiver when all else is covered, and can stay in and block when the team goes max protection. And really how much would the team be losing giving Leonard carries over Benson? Is Benson that much better runner than Leonard? I think we can say that Leonard is that much better receiver.
When the San Francisco 49rs were riding the West Coast Offense to a dynasty they had a great receiving threat in
Roger Craig. He was the ultimate in dual threat, and while I don't know Brian Leonard can ever be as good as
Craig, I do believe he is the most similar in playing style. For those who might not remember, Craig was elected to the Pro Bowl at both fullback and halfback. We all know that Brian Leonard isn't going to win any foot races, but he has shown that he can make runs of 10-20 yards when he hits the hole.
In addition Benson just does not seem to be the right fit in this offense. While he has had two 100 yard games, I have not thought he looked comfortable in this offense in any of the games. Too often he seems tentative as he approaches the line, and he gets stuffed. I really think this has been a big reason for the team having trouble with third downs.
What if instead of Benson, the Bengals started Brian Leonard, and kept Scott as the third down back? This way Dalton would have another weapon to throw to, Gruden would be able to utilize the screen more, and the Bengals would have a more punishing runner. In addition Scott would be able to get more touches because he would both beable to sub in for Leonard and get the bulk of third down plays. I think this would help Scott better understand his role, and would definitly make him a change of pace backs.
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But I think they still can do a better job of distributing the touches between the runningbacks (i.e. if the RB’s have 30 touches a game Benson should have about 15, Scott have around 7 or 8 and Leonard should have 7 or 8).
I agree
Benson should be the starter but Scott and Leonard should be used more. I belive that Leonard should be in on every 3rd dwn play he gives you more to work with then Benson. I would love to see Benson and Scott rotate more and Leonard play 3rd dwns.
Still think Benson should get most touches, but............
agree we can even out the ball distribution more. We continue to struggle on third and short situations, so why not bring in a guy like Leonard more to just run the ball? He’s athletic enough to bounce outside and he is reliable with the ball. I like Leonard and do hope we continue to incorporate him as much as possible……….
by The Van Buren Boys on Oct 3, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
The minute you give him the starting job the minute he stops being clutch
He is a typical 3rd down back who can be as clutch as it can get.
What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.
He should be utilized more, but he's not an NFL starting RB
He’s too slow and not very great at eluding tackles or breaking tackles regularly like a starting RB should be.
He’s good at catching screen passes from the backfield and running for 10 yards on a 3rd and 20 draw play….but that doesn’t mean he should be our starter.
Leonard
Personally think he’s exactly where he should be.
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Scott as the 3rd down back?
Seriously? Why would you call for our smallest running back to be in third down situations. If it’s third and short you want your power runner with a fullback, if it’s third and long you still want a big guy to be able to pick up blocks.
Also, Leonard had some good runs toward the end of the game AFTER Ced wore down the Bills D with over a 5 yard average.
I would give Leonard all of Scott's touches at this point.
Scott has been exceptionally awful.
Change gone come mane! Trust me! Cause i Bleed tigerblood!--Jerome Simpson
15 touches for 45 yards? When did that become acceptable?
Change gone come mane! Trust me! Cause i Bleed tigerblood!--Jerome Simpson
I don't think he's given a chance.
If a guy gets 4 touches a game I don’t think he can prove anything. He needs more touches so he can also get into rhythm.
What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.
Well if he's not the type of back that can succeed w/ that few touches, and Leonard is,
who should be Benson’s backup?
Change gone come mane! Trust me! Cause i Bleed tigerblood!--Jerome Simpson
At this point they are both his back up.
They are used at different times though.
What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.
And my argument is that Leonard should get his own series in the first half,
as does Scott. Just switch it up for 1 game. Put Leonard in for that 1st drive of the second quarter, see how it goes. It can’t be worse than what Scott has done.
Change gone come mane! Trust me! Cause i Bleed tigerblood!--Jerome Simpson
Don't get all this
Scott or Leonard should get their own series. Doesn’t that make them all the more predictable? Sprinkle them in and keep the defense guessing when they will be used.
Neither Scott or Leonard is a full time (starter) backs. Their biggest problem is that Ced’s first 18 -19 carries are just average. Get into the twenties and Ced starts to roll. Unfortunately he hasn’t been given that many carries lately.
And Brian Leonard: 12 touches, 107 yards.
This is simple math, folks.
Change gone come mane! Trust me! Cause i Bleed tigerblood!--Jerome Simpson
Are you kidding?
Ced just ran for 104 yards, Just wait till Bobby comes back.
No start for leonard
But, I swear that guy makes some BIG plays every now and then.
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
I'm not sure there are any of those '09 Steelers or Ravens games that we would have won without Leonard.
He made ridiculous fourth down conversions, clutch catches and the like.
I adore Leonard
His is the only jersey I own, but no way should he start. That’s not his role.
I have made it known for over a year now that Shipley and Leonard are my favorite Bengals
Do I think he should be the starting RB – No. I think he is being used the way he should be for the most part. I do, however, find it a problem for that much proven talent and determined desire to be on the bench for 45 plays or so.
I have a novel idea, and I am not really sure it is a good one, but what the hell I may as well put it out there. I have nothing to lose but my rep. here and that probably isn’t that much to lose.
Brian Leonard has great hands, makes YAC, has good speed,. has good ball security, blocks well and make yardage that sometimes seems not to be there. I would like to see him in as a slot receiver 4-5 times a game. It will confuse the D and will draw their attention away from the real play. He can catch a couple of short passes and do what he does best in space. – make the first man miss and punish whoever tackles him by taking the hit to him. No I am not suggesting that he abandon his current role. I just want him to find the field a few more plays. Dumb idea? Maybe I guess but I can’t see why a couple of plays couldn’t be designed to use him both as a receiver and as a decoy.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
This would be especially effective
If we start him in a 2 back set with Benson and move him to the slot. That could open running lanes for Benson by moving guys out of the box.
It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain
have him in slot
Then throw a screen to green and let him be the blocker.
by JCompton41 on Oct 4, 2011 11:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
or throw the screen to Leonard and let AJ be the blocker
Leonard has done everything they have asked of him. Maybe he deserves a chance to do a little more. But as for starting – I don’t think so. Benson is the starter as long as he is here.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Leonard needs more touches but not sure about starting
I think he makes a good point in that Leonard could make a huge impact in this sort of offense. The Bengals are predictable in that Ced just runs the ball b/c he can’t catch, Scott just runs the ball b/c he can’t pass protect (limiting his use on passing plays) and Leonard can do it all but only comes in on third down passing situations. Mixing Leonard in where it isn’t so predictable would help the Bengals IMO.
RB by committee
benson for the cowbell.
scott for the finesse downs where it could be a pass or run to the outside.
leonard for the clutch and 3rds.
now if someone could only wake up our coaching staff. the answer is staring them right in the faces. and run the damned ball 25+ times a game.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
lemme give you this image since you're a leonard fan
check out the eyes and concentration. you can almost hearing him thinking, “2-3 more steps for the 1st down.”

" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
Give Leonard the Ball
How can you coaches justify that Brian Leonard doesn’t deserve more ball time? He’s an animal in a gentleman’s body.He gets the job done on a continual basis and does in clutch decisions/plays that would otherwise fold up the offense and turn the ball over to the defense. When the defense sees him as a viable threat, it opens up other options like pocket time,screen threats and would create more man to man coveraage. How can you make something so obvious so difficult to understand? Give him the ball !!

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