Greetings from BCC: Ask a Jags fan
by tiquanunderwear on Oct 4, 2011 12:56 PM EDT
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PrintHello there Bengal fans this tiquanunderwear from the Jacksonville Jaguars SB Nation blog Big Cat Country. As we look forward to the Sunday matchup you can use this thread to ask questions and I along with other BCC members will stop by and answer them to the best of our knowledge. I for one was born in Cincinnati (Loveland, OH) but moved at a very young age. After settling in Duval County I found the Jaguars and have been hooked since.
I will leave with three questions for you folks.
1) Andy Dalton didn't have the hype of Newton or Gabbert, but is performing at a high level. How do you think he has done so far?
2) AJ Green came in with tons of hype. How has he preformed?
3) You have the #1 defense, do you think the D can stay at the top of the NFL throughout the year.
Thanks!
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to answer your questions
1. Dalton has performed far better than I expected. He has shown poise, determination, and great leadership. Some people here still aren’t on the Dalton bandwagon, but I’m fully aboard along with the majority of the other people.here.
2. Aj is as advertised, makes a couple amazing catches a game and gets around 100 yards almost every game.
3. Probably not number one, but most people here think this is a top 5 defense. They will give up some plays though and is not always 100% consistant.
by JCompton41 on Oct 4, 2011 1:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
My opinion
1. Andy has really impressed so far. I don’t think there is a rookie not named Came Newton who has been more surprising.
2. AJ Green is a beast, and was obviously the best WR in the draft.
3. We haven’t really played anyone so I think the #1 ranking is a bit of a farce. I think we have a top 10 D though.
2011 Year of the Red Rifle
(#3) I wouldn't say that we haven't played anyone
We just held the league’s topped ranked offense to 13 points and under 300 yards. But I agree that this is probably not the best defense in the league. Probably somewhere in the 5-8 range. Baltimore, Washington, & Tennessee should probably be ranked ahead of them at this point, and I’d lump them in somewhere with Houston, Pitt, San Diego & San Fran
JAGS get snuffed on your list huh? I'm used to it....But we Just held the saints to 23 points..
They have been blowing up the scoreboard… The JETS would never get 32 points on us again if they tried….That was Luke McCowns fault not the D…
Our defense is pretty good… Offense…eh…
"POUND THE ROCK MOJO!!!"
Honestly, I don't know a whole lot about your team,
So going by statistical evidence, the Jags don’t rank in the top ten in any major category except for points allowed (they rank 10th). If you can make a case of why I should include them, I’m all ears, but I don’t see much on the surface that would make me put them there.
i dont know much either about them
But I do like there interior line players, don’t know how well they’ve performed this year.
by JCompton41 on Oct 5, 2011 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
For starters
Points allowed is generally the most important defensive statistic, in my opinion. Of course, there are exceptions like when the Jaguars allowed 32 points to the Jets due to bad special teams play and four offensive interceptions. Outside of that game, every team we played thus far has put up their fewest number of points against Jacksonville.
I agree that points allowed is the most important stat,
but even that category puts them on the Bubble. I’ll definitely give you that they are good, and they should be considered a respectable unit (maybe top 10), but you still haven’t made a case of why you should be included above the other teams I mentioned.
For what it's worth
Houston allowed the Saints to score 40. We allowed 23. Tennessee put up 26 on Baltimore while managing only 14 against us, and, honestly, half of those points was on a fluke play. I don’t know that I’d rank our defense as good as Baltimore, but I’d say we may have the best defense our division.
I realize Houston and Tennessee rank above us in points allowed, but Tennessee played Denver, Cleveland, Baltimore, and Jacksonville. Houston played Indy, Miami, New Orleans, and Pittsburgh. With exception of New Orleans and, probably, Baltimore, none of those teams have particularly stellar offenses so far this season.
We played Tennessee, Carolina, and New Orleans, all of which have been able to move the ball effectively. Even the Jets haven’t been that bad, and, as I mentioned before. Our defense was pretty good in that game. It was inept offense and poor special teams play that are responsible for all those points allowed in that game.
I like low-scoring games.
I think 20 points could win this. Of course, games that everyone expects to be low-scoring often end up being quite the opposite. Here’s to a low-scoring affair, though.
To be clear
I don’t know how comfortable I am calling Jacksonville top ten, but I think they’re better than people think. I’m convinced they’re better than Houston as well.
Agreed
With Baltimore, not so sure about Skins and Titans, we have the potential to be better than them both and better than ‘09. Can’t compare with Baltimore, though. They’re simply amazing. 2 sure Hall of Famers and Haloti Ngata, we’re just not as good. I’m hoping for #2 or #3 by the end of season. Sounds achievable.
by cincyplayoffwin2012 on Oct 4, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I really think we're better than Baltimore.
They have Reed, Lewis, and Ngata but we seem to be consistently good across the board while they can’t really seem to say the same. Our corners are better and our DLine overall is better.
All I know about this defensive nonsense
is that you have to take into account how many drives our defense sees a game. Against San Francisco they were out there all day. Same thing in teh first half against Buffalo. Same thing in the 3rd quarter against Cleveland. Same thing for the first half of the Broncos game.
The D’s overall stats are pretty amazing considering the offense has given them such little help.
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Doc, I don't agree but I hope you are right and I am wrong.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
They have three HoFers.
But the rest of their defense outside of like Jarret Johnson and Mt. Cody don’t really seem worth mentioning as fantastic. Clements is upgradeable but the rest of our starters and our depth outside the secondary are consistently good. Didn’t we learn this past offseason that a full team is better than a group of a few stars?
Yes we did Doc. Don't misunderstand, I really like the entire Bengals team
They are solid, if not stellar, in every position group. Rivers, who for some reason everyone seems to be mum about, is also solid and will be an upgrade. Bobby, who everyone seems down on, should be an upgrade at RG, especially in the running game.
It is entirely possible that I got a wrong impression when I watched the Sun. night game, but they were all over the Jets O. Their D depends on disruption at the point of attack and IF we can keep Dalton clean I really like our chances, especially late in the game as I don’t think they can rotate fresh bodies in and out like we can. It is still early and the injury factor is also a big consideration. But, lets not get ahead of ourselves. We need to get thru to last four games in a position to do something. It all depends on how much we can advance as a team by then. We are only 2 & 2 and there is a lot of football to be played.. The team appears to be better than we expected but we still have a lot of work to do if we expect to survive a very difficult second half of the season.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
no, you are correct about the Ravens vs Jets
The Ravens were nothing short of impressive with their defense. Our unit is very, very good, but they showed how to go to the next level and create a turnover machine and score points. Not many teams can do that. The mid 80’s Giants Defense comes to mind.
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First your questions:
1) Dalton has performed well, I would say. He seems to have trouble getting started but once he gets the flow of the game down he looks very good. The second half this week against the Bill was when he looked best, IMHO.
2) No regrets on Green. He’s a lil’ rough, but I’d have to say that he he is the best skill player right now on the offensive side of the ball, with Gresham being his only competition for that distinction. (Whitworth being the best player on this team, period)
3) Not sure if they can remain the top defense, but the high ranking is not illusory. The defensive linemen and linebackers are outstanding; with Moch and (possibly) Rivers coming back soon, there are possible upgrades in the pipe as well.
Now for a couple of questions:
1) Do you expect the Jags to heavily favor the run Sunday? Considering that our strength is the front seven, if so how do you expect MJD to fare?
2) Thoughts on Gabbert? Is he ready for you guys to open up the offense a little more so everyone doesn’t stack up on MJD every play? What are the chances of him having a big game against us?
3) How’s your defense? Just looking at their stats they are roughly in 10-12 category… what are the strengths and failings of the Jags defense?
1) MJD only had 11 carries against NO…I’d expect about 18-22 this game
2) He can make all the throws but has some trouble with happy feet in the pocket…He will be very good
3) Our defense is solid and has playmakers all over the field….Poz leads the Run D…Although we are susceptible to a few big plays
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Love everything Jaguars and Royals
I wear number 13 in both Football and Baseball
by tiquanunderwear on Oct 4, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
How was Gabbert against the Blitz? How is the offensive line performing? How is the Jags secondary? How good is your redzone defense?
is it wrong i chuckle when i read your question?
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
Not wrong.
Don’t really get it but going back and reading my comment I realize that with Dalton’s legs we have added a whole new meaning to the word “REDzone”..
How was Gabbert against the Blitz?
is what made me chuckle. because he’s about to feel a little pressure like he hasn’t. and it feels damned good as a bengals fan to be able to enjoy that thought. the bengals with a real d-line. holy crap =)
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
I thought Gabbert
held up well considering I read Gregg Williams say that he blitzed Gabbert as much as any quarterback he’s been up against. He was really bad about getting happy feet in the preseason, but he’s dramatically improved in that area. He was a bit inaccurate, especially in the second half, and you may be able to attribute that to pressure. I think much of it is timing with the receivers, though, however much of a cop-out that sounds like.
The offensive line has been okay. Nothing stellar, but there hasn’t been a lot of continuity due to injuries. They gave up three sacks to the Saints with three changed pieces on the O-line from the previous week.
The secondary is decent, certainly a drastic improvement over last year. We’ve been playing more than I’d like without our CB2, but they are okay with the help of an improved pass rush. I know the pass rush doesn’t look that good on paper, but Newton was harassed all day and Brees was sacked three times.
The Saints scored TDs 2/5 in the redzone. Take that how you want.
answering the 3 questions you put out there
1) can’t recall the last time any cincy fan called for the qb who shall not be named to be called back. everyone is rather happy with dalton’s heart and glad to have a qb with leadership ability. damned nice to finally have a qb with poise in cincy again.
2) green makes the ending of the ocho era bearable for those of us that loved chad. green appears to have a hellva career ahead of him.
3) our defense. believe its a paper tiger, listen to the national media outlets =) hope the jags have one of the better o-lines in the nfl, because whats coming sunday will be an eye opener if you’ve been following the national press about cincy. are we a number 1 d? nope. are are top 5. maybe. is the d-line for real? hell yes. if you want to beat the d, throw at your TEs and expose our secondary. challenge our d-line and its going to be a long day for jag fans.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
You are exactly right on point #3
If the Jags decide to run it up the middle or off tackle I don’t think that will be a good look for them, even before we put 8 in the box.
Best shot against the Bengals D
is to spread the ball around. Howard is a very good cover LB, but Maualuga and Lawson are both prone to mental lapses.
In the secondary Hall is awesome, and Nelson is a pretty solid playmaker (despite what you may remember of him) but otherwise they’re suspect.
The defensive line doesn’t have any superstars (though Dunlap could be soon) but there are 8 guys that can all light up someone in the backfield and you can pretty much count on at least 5 of them doing it each game. The rotation of so many high-motor playmakers on the d-line, combined with excellent tackling, is what makes this defense so good.
True that,
Nelson seems to have upped his game here in Cincy
…Now if only he wouldn’t drop picks, he could be sensational
by cincyplayoffwin2012 on Oct 4, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Qs Jags man
1. Dalton looks solid. Deep ball is a little suspect, but with AJ out there he can afford to be off target sometimes. Seems to do well in short-medium throws and has some mobility which is nice (unlike Palmer). havent seen a lot of success working deep-sideline routes, but those are hard no matter who you are. Seems like he really does well working the middle of the field with Gresham and the WRs and then throwing up a bomb once in a while to Green or Simpson
2. AJ is the truth. Speed, size, hands. Easily worth the #4 pick. Very happy to watch him for a long time. Could easily get 1000 yards as a rookie
3. Defense is legit. We dont get run on very easily but our secondary will give up some plays if you have the guts to attack them enough. Im guessing we end up as a top-7 unit by end of season. maybe even top-3
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My Qs for the Jags
1. Who are your top recievers? Deep threats? Is Mercedes Lewis alive?
2./ Who are the defensive playmakers to look out for on Sunday?
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
1) Our WR’s are not good.. Mike Thomas is
the best but we have virtually no deep threat… Marcedes is alive Gabbert just has to find him more
2) Posluszny is a big run stopper at MLB and Daryl Smith another LB had a pick against NO..the secondary is also improved
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by tiquanunderwear on Oct 4, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
if the jags don't target macedes this week
all of the jags fans need to publicly flog the jags coaching staff. Marcedes Lewis should be weapon number #1 on sunday for the jags and could post season best numbers. send lewis right at manny lawson nonstop until we have to send safety help. target nate a couple of times, then spend rest of day beating on manny lawson. lewis will have 120-150 yards before game is over. jags win.
do i think that will happen? hopefully not. would it be the easiest way to beat cincy, yes.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
wait
Didn’t we do decent against the Bills and 9’ers TE’s?
by cincyplayoffwin2012 on Oct 4, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
bills didn't try to use their TE enough.
they thought they were in control so wanted to establish Fred Jackson on us. which lead to our win. bills coaches cost them the game more than anything else.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
Yes.. If we don't do this i'll be convinced that our coaches don't even watch more than 10 mins of tape on an upcoming oppenent..
Actually i’m already convinced…… Can you tell I want to blow up the whole coaching staff?
M.Lewis should def be target #1
"POUND THE ROCK MOJO!!!"
Look out for out DT' AluAlu and Knighton... If DE Aaron Kampman comes back def look out for him..
Matt Roth and Jeremy Mincey have been getting good pressure…
Oh just to let you know.. MJD has been abusing 7-9 man fronts stacked in the box for years.. And killing them…
"POUND THE ROCK MOJO!!!"
MJD is hardcore, consider this:
week 1:
P. Hillis 17 57
week 2:
W. McGahee 28 101
week 3:
F. Gore 17 42
week 4:
F. Jackson 17 66
notice a trend?
cincy’s D has yet to allow a starting back to gain more than 4 yards a carry this season.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
MJD
is way better than any of thoes backs
by Kashan Jabari Fields on Oct 4, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
im gonna say yea too
Jones drew is a beast.
by JCompton41 on Oct 5, 2011 12:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Than Frank Gore coming off of a hip injury?
Yes. Hands down. The pocket rocket is a beast plain and simple. This year however Fred Jackson has been the definition of elusive and the Bengals shut him down cold.
Fred Jackson
is no mjd, two diffrent styles of running
by Kashan Jabari Fields on Oct 5, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
According to ProFootballFocus' elusiveness rating..
Fred Jackson has been one of the 3 most elusive backs through 2 seasons, including this one. He may be a different style of back but the man is hard to tackle and he was absolutely shut down.
by Cry on Oct 5, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Ask any
Benagal defensive player, I bet they say mjd is harder to tackle. Im not trying to knock your defense or anything, im just saying you havent faced a back of the caliber of mjd.
by Kashan Jabari Fields on Oct 5, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
we're about to find out
if MJD ends the game with a sub 4 yard average, the bengals d-line might have the respect of another town. the national media will dismiss the bengals d regardless.
or MJD has a big game and the national media will dismiss the bengals D..
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
Last time we faced MJD, i believe we held him to under 40 yds
weak-sauce.
The Curse of Bo Jackson: Jan 13th,1991- present day
MJD is not elusive.. He is a bruiser!
Never shys from contact…His runs depend on vision and blocking…
That said Fred Jackson is the only back on that list who is even close to MJD… Granted you just might shut him down..we are working with a different O-Line this year..But he still is in a different class than Willis Mac (OLD)
Gore , …….Hillis is pretty studly but still, MJD outranks him,..
"POUND THE ROCK MOJO!!!"
Gore is over-rated
I agree that MJD is a much better RB. I like him and Tolbert as perhaps the two toughest RB’s to stop on a pure run, assuming their lines properly execute their blocks.
Sure. Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
i put mjd and hillis neck and neck.
I put them both between 5-10. He’s one of my favorite running backs for sure.
by JCompton41 on Oct 5, 2011 9:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have to agree with that.
MJD is probably my number 3 back in the league, right now (behind AP and Run DMC) and in general (behind AP and CJ2k).
well if MJD doesn't shy from contact this week
his season could be over…Mauluga will knock the snot outta his nose and slobber outta his mouth on the same hit!!!
No one ever jacks up Mojo
He absolutely demolished a bigger and stronger Merriman…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82pO-l4o5LQ&feature=related
Lo Danger Ox
Crab Yarmulke
Crime Horse
by tiquanunderwear on Oct 6, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Has he blown anyone up like that within the last couple of years?
I think he’s saying, while that is awesome, it was also 4 yrs ago. Not saying he can’t sill do it, but has he recently? I don’t know personally, as I don’t make it a point to watch MJD, although he is a great RB.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 7, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
He still runs over people
on a regular basis. There are times when he really strikes me as a bowling ball, running into a mess of players and knocking them four yards down field. He’s also still good in pass protection, although I know he was responsible for a sack last week. But allowing sacks is another matter. He’s still got it. He just hasn’t made highlight reels recently by blowing up someone of Merriman’s stature.
I expect the Bengals
to hold him near his only other performance against the Bengals D (10 for 33), who imo, is much better than the 2008 unit, although I expect him to get more than 10 carries, so probably more yards.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 7, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're setting your sights a little high.
That was the worst team we’ve had record-wise since 2003, and I think that ‘03 team had more talent. MJD wasn’t the starting RB that year, and we were playing from behind the whole game. I think it’s commonly accepted that runners play better the more they run, although 11 runs last week was good for 84 yards.
No way he gets 84yds on 11 runs against this D
by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 7, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't say he would.
I think he could get 100 on 20, though.
No way is he getting 5 ypc either
I don’t think he breaks 100yds, even if he gets 30 carries. People might think this defense is overrated. I don’t think so.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 7, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I know your defense is very good.
I wasn’t trying to say it’s overrated. I just think MJD is that good. I don’t think 4-5 ypc is out of the question at all.
We've been holding some damn good RBs that are in the top ten to under
(in Hillis’ case, well under) 4 YPC. MJD is good but there’s no way he’s getting a 5 YPC average.
Hillis has had
one pretty good game this year. He had a pretty good ypc against TN but rushed only ten times. His only good game yardage-wise was against Indy, and I don’t know if you noticed but Indy’s defense is really not that good. Honestly, Jackson is the only one I find impressive. Fred Jackson’s game is why I would say your run defense is legit. Still, he poster 3.9 ypc, and MJD is definitely better than Jackson in my book.
i say he will top out around the same, unless he busts a big run.
This d won’t get chipped away at for 5 yards a pop. But a big play is possible that inflated his average.
by JCompton41 on Oct 8, 2011 1:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's why it's called an average
Of course, I don’t expect five yards every rush, but he has a knack for breaking off big runs from time to time.
I meant no disrespect to MJD
‘cause he’s clearly one of the top backs in the league, but we’ve got to have some kind of statute of limitations on highlight clips. I could show you some awesome videos of Chad Ochocinco from 2007, but it doesn’t mean that he’s the same player that he was.
Again, no disprespect to MJD was intended.
I get what you're saying, but
Ochocinco is at the back end of his career while he was in his prime in ‘07. MJD is in the prime of his career now while he was at the beginning of his career in ’07. He’s better now than he was then.
That was precisely
the response I had in mind.
How was Blaine Gabbert seemed to adjust to running an NFL playbook?
Missouri QBs usually have trouble with it, but Gabbert might be different.
He has made plays that fans in Jax have never seen
He just has to get used to the NFL and get comfortable
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Love everything Jaguars and Royals
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by tiquanunderwear on Oct 4, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Not gonna lie.. I wanted Dalton.. And a bunch of Jags fans did also... But more wanted Locker first, then Ponder/Gabbert..
Gabbert Has flashes of being great but I will withold judgment till’ the end of the season..
I live in Fort Worth (TCU) so I saw Dalto play all the time….The kid will be good..
"POUND THE ROCK MOJO!!!"
Question 3 - yardage isn't a good way to measure the best defenses
Until the defense starts forcing some turnovers, I don’t think that we should consider them as the #1 D in the league (and I’m pretty sure that they don’t consider themselves the #1 D in the league). However, they do a great job of tackling and usually keep the offense in front of them.
my thoughts
1 – Too soon to tell on Dalton. He has looked amazing and horrible depending on the drive. After the first 3 games I was riding pretty high on him, but he was so wildly inaccurate in the first half against Buffalo that I’m not completely solid in my belief anymore. Time will tell. Hard to gauge so far because the receivers are sorta wildcards too. Gresham and Green have both made some great plays and also some bonehead mistakes. The rest are all pretty much nobodies now that Shipley is hurt.
2 – Green is an amazing specimen who has made some unreal catches. He’s also had at least 3 false starts in 4 games and has had some bad drops. He’s going to get better, and that should scare the pants off everyone.
3 – In a word, no. The defense is outstanding, has been for 3 years and getting better all the time, but the offense can’t keep drives going. The sooner the offense gains some consistency the more likely the defense holds onto its high ranking. It could happen, but I’m not terribly optimistic. My faith in the defense is near-total, but they need the offense to give them some rest.
Do Jags fan get upset when they are called a Jag?
Do you have regular Jag-offs in the parking lot, or other locations?
Is the local bar called the Jag Hole?
Do you understand that I’m doing this razzing with the best intentions between fans? I am looking forward to the game. I think both teams have some seams for the other to exploit, and we might see some excellent football.
The Battle of the Rookie QBs.
Sure. Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
LOL. We so love that name.
Sure. Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
How much faith do you think the coaches have in Gabbert
I’m only asking because i wanna try to gauge how many times Pocket Hercules will get the ball. I’m sure you guys have the same general game plan as we do, ride the star rb, but how long until that plan gets scrapped for give the rookie some tosses?
Flying is as simple as throwing yourself at the ground and missing
if MJD doesn’t get 25+ carries something was wrong with the game plan. 10+ target passes to TE and 20+ runs by MJD. any other game plan is poorly designed vs the bengals defense.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
well duh
I’m just asking how well they can make adjustments. Do they have a competent O.C., or is a more of a Bratkowski type of guy…..
Flying is as simple as throwing yourself at the ground and missing
the jags are averaging 9.8 pts a game
dunno if thats a competent OC or not..
" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."
I'm interested in knowing what Jags fans think of Reggie Nelson
Was hyped big time coming out of Florida, but flopped in Jacksonville. He’s someone turned it around now, but teh jury is still out IMO.
Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun
We wanted him to do good so bad! At least the Gator fans did being the University of Florida is only about 45 mins from JAX.
This is Gator country… When he flopped we all were more than happy to see him go.. Unfortunatly
the guy we got for him sucked even worse (David Jones) ugh..
Glad to hear he is doing better…
"POUND THE ROCK MOJO!!!"
He seems to get lost occasionally in coverage
But he is really good in run support.
Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun
a few picks this year and he should get some probowl consideration
He’s usually got pretty good coverage, just doesn’t catch the ball. And he is great in run support.
by JCompton41 on Oct 5, 2011 9:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
david jones was horrible
I was telling a friend about the trade, and said you’d never hear David Jones’s name again until he’s cut. And I’m pretty sure he’s been cut right?
by JCompton41 on Oct 5, 2011 9:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I believe he was put on IR
but I’m not sure.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 5, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he was cut
And had a tryout for some other team today.
by JCompton41 on Oct 5, 2011 12:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ah yes
he was placed on IR but was taken off IR on 9/12/2011 and cut the same day.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 5, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
He's horrific
In Jacksonville he was the worst player on the team…..Instead of tackling he always tried to force fumbles…never worked
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by tiquanunderwear on Oct 5, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
you wont even know its the same player sunday
He flys around the field making tackles.
by JCompton41 on Oct 5, 2011 10:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Right now he's awesome.
After Sunday you’ll definitely be upset that the Jags traded him for David Jones.
We got the better deal on that trade
even if Nelson didn’t start playing they way he has played for us.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 5, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I really thought I was halucinating when I first read that we traded David Jones for Reggie Nelson.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 5, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
How is your team built?
Offensively and defensively. What styles of offense do you run, what are your strengths, what’s your base defense, etc.
I know absolutely nothing about the Jags.
Here we go
Offensively we had been pounding the ball to MJD, but now with Gabbert we have opened it up and started to sling the rock
Defense is a strong point, we run a 4-3 but have playmakers all over the field
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by tiquanunderwear on Oct 5, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
who on d?
I know mathis is alright, and your interior line is pretty good, but that’s all that comes to mind.
by JCompton41 on Oct 5, 2011 11:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Smith is very athletic at LB
Posluszny covers pretty well and the Safety’s can make plays on the ball
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by tiquanunderwear on Oct 5, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Our D-Line was the strength by far coming out of the gate... But our 1st round DT Tyson AluAlu has been nursing and injured knee and is not playing well.. He has no explosivenss..
Guy was blowing through double teams in the pre season and game 1 but now he is playing hurt..Again… I don’t expect him to finish the season..
"POUND THE ROCK MOJO!!!"
We picked up Clint session from the colts at LB, Pauls Pozlusny from Buffalo, Dwight Lowery (fs) from the Jets. Landry (SS) from the Ravens..
Those guys are proving to be good pick ups…. Pozlusny and Lowery definitly have been an instant upgrade..Landry too..
"POUND THE ROCK MOJO!!!"
Pozlusny was a big move in fa.
glad he’s working out, know the bills fans were upset about losing him
" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."
A few Bills fans came over to the Jags MB and said Poz sucked Blah Blah Blah.
He has been doing pretty damn good!
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by SALTWATERJAG on Oct 9, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
all I've heard from Bills fans
is how glad they are he’s gone. Seemed strange to me, as he was awesome in college and has been great for the Jags, but sometimes guys just don’t fit in with one team.
by indesignkat on Oct 10, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Cecil Shorts III had a good preseason but has yet to record a catch
Chris Prosinski has played some at safety along with Rod Isaac. Will Rackley has played LG 3 of the 4 games but will not start with a healthy Eugene Monroe
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by tiquanunderwear on Oct 5, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
ProFootballTalk 32 Teams, 32 Observations: JAX
Jacksonville Jaguars: Rookie left guard Will Rackley is bringing up the rear in Pass Blocking Efficiency for guards. He has allowed three sacks, a hit, and six pressures in 102 pass-blocking snaps. Making matters worse, center Brad Meester ranks second from the bottom among centers.
LOL Sorry Blaine
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Rackley won't play this week
LT: Monroe
LG: Britton
C: Meester
RG: Nwaneri
RT: Whimper
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by tiquanunderwear on Oct 6, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Whimper has been the best OL so far
Couldn’t afford to take him out…Britton is also a better run blocker and much better than Rackely at LG at this point
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by tiquanunderwear on Oct 6, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
that has gotta be the worst name you could have as a football player lol
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by ItsAlwaysSunnyInDayton on Oct 7, 2011 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions
could be worse
a few years back the Chiefs had a couple guys who’s first names were Turdell and Craphonso.
Whimper sounds pretty bad, but I’d take that over Fecal McLincolnLog any day.
I have a question, why has Marvin Lewis been coaching for so long with a W/L record of less that .500? Does the Bengals owner have a lot of patience or what?
We don't try to get into the mind of the Bengals' owner
It’d be like walking into a realife “Hellraiser” or “Phantasm”
by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 6, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
marvin has been the best coach of mike brown era
He gets a pass because he has to deal with mike brown. Brown seems to trust him with more and more personell choices recently so he’s the only reason the bengals aren’t back to the 90s bengals imo.
by JCompton41 on Oct 6, 2011 2:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
several factors
mike brown can be loyal to a fault
also marvin has been hit and miss the past decade. he has made the playoffs twice while having to deal with mike brown. as a whole the franchise might be afraid at the possibility of reverting back to losing ways without marvin
by LyotardFactory on Oct 6, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
dont see the jags
Doubling what they average on offense vs the bengals.
by JCompton41 on Oct 6, 2011 3:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If they can’t score more than 10 on a rather average defense like the Saints, I definitely don’t see them putting 20+ on a better one like ours.
Unless the entire scoring is D/ST.
I expect the offense to improve
as the rookie QB improves. Hopefully, there’s enough improvement this week, but it may take a bit of time. We did put up 16 against Tennessee. I don’t if that means anything, but I thought I’d throw it out there.
So you think you'll get an extra touchdown against us?
He’s a rookie facing one of the best defenses in the league. You might want to re-evaluate your assurance.
You're putting words in my mouth.
I think he’ll improve week to week. I don’t know if he’ll be improved enough to score a pair of TDs against a very good defense this week. I hope he will, and most estimations of the Jags outscoring their average are based on the notion that he will improve enough for the offense to score an extra TD. He’s made some eye-popping throws along with some rookie mistakes. If he makes those great throws at the right times, even a good D would be hard pressed to stop it.
Question
Other than MJD, where do you see your offensive philosophy going w/Gabbert under center? Lots of short passes, screens etc?
Is it True the Mike Thomas is your only reciever w/ over 100 yds on the year?!
—if so, WTF please explain
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It's a mixture
of our receivers not being that good and the fact that we ran the ball roughly a gazillion times in two of our four games. Inconsistent to outright poor QB play hasn’t helped, either.
whitworth vs henderson
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by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 6, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That is an example of Reggie Nelson being horrible
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by tiquanunderwear on Oct 6, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Careful now
Reggie might just decide to give MJD a concussion today. And if you think I’m exaggerating, look at what he did to Mike Tolbert last year.
BWHAHAHAHAH.. Again BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
MJD would crack Nelsons cranium! MOJO wins 10 out of 10 collisions against Reggie.
Dude…Get Real!
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by SALTWATERJAG on Oct 9, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course, I'm picking my Jags
but I do expect it to be a good game.
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