Arguing Why The Cincinnati Bengals Weren't Outclassed By The Pittsburgh Steelers
by Josh Kirkendall on Nov 14, 2011 9:24 AM EST
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Credit the Bengals for starting the second half off well to level the score at 17-17, but really that was the only stretch of the game where the Bengals looked like they were in the same class as the Steelers.
- Behind The Steel Curtain
As you can imagine this comment stood out at me. Not just because they said that the Bengals "looked like they were in the same class" -- I would say the same thing if the Bengals won. The guys that run the great SB Nation Pittsburgh Steelers blog hold the same level of passion about their team as we do, so this isn't a counter-shot due to some perceived insult; there isn't any. Rather my mind wondered towards the questions, "was it true?"
Let's say this much. Cincinnati was as outclassed as one could possibly be during each team's respective first two possessions. Pittsburgh's offense posted 132 yards of total offense on 17 plays, taking a 14-point lead because Cincinnati's offense went three and out twice to start the game. By the four-minute mark in the first quarter, the Steelers produced more first downs (9) than snaps by the Bengals (6).
That's where the assessment of being outclassed concludes.
After the 3:42 mark in the first quarter, following Rashard Mendenhall's two-yard touchdown to give Pittsburgh a 14-point lead, until the end of the game, Cincinnati outscored the Pittsburgh Steelers 17-10. During the final 48 minutes and 42 seconds of the game, Cincinnati's offense out-gained the Steelers 271-196.
We're not talking about the end of the game here, where teams being blown out accumulate "mop-up" yardage. Ben Roethlisberger's second quarter passer rating was 37.3 and the Steelers quarterback failed to post 300 yards passing for the first time in a month. Cincinnati's defense laid a hit on Roethlisberger 13 times throughout the course of the game, including five quarterback sacks. Pittsburgh's offense had more three and out possessions (5) than the Bengals (3). Cincinnati's 109 yards rushing is the fourth time this year the Steelers defense allowed over 100 yards rushing to an opposing offense.
A rookie quarterback and rookie wide receiver, who was double-covered, connected on a 36-yard touchdown with six-time Pro Bowl safety and former defensive MVP Troy Polamalu failing to disrupt the pass. The renown Steelers defense known for an evil pass rush, especially against rookie quarterbacks, didn't post a sack and Andy Dalton was only hit twice in the pocket.
With 12:22 remaining in the fourth quarter, the Steelers held onto a seven-point lead when Cincinnati's offense jogged onto the field to take a snap from the Steelers 47-yard line following a 20-yard punt return by Brandon Tate. With 2:33 remaining in the game, the Bengals offense fell 25 yards short of the endzone to tie the game when a bad pass by Andy Dalton, compounded by poor effort from Jerome Simpson, resulted in a game-sealing William Gay interception.
Conclusively a loss doesn't always mean a team was "outclassed". It was the Steelers converting big third down opportunities, including the defense's failure to prevent a 21-yard reception that converted a third-and-19. It was a missed tackle by Domata Peko and Robert Geathers from the nine-yard line that allowed Rashard Mendenhall to score the eventual game-winning touchdown. It was a deflected pass eventually intercepted because Lawrence Timmons was at the right place at the right time.
Teams that are outclassed are not 25 yards shy from tying the game with just over two minutes remaining in the fourth quarter. You're outclassed if you lose 35-7 during the regular season opener.
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everything goes in cycles our time is coming
Pittsburg is getting older and we are just getting started. I don’t care if we lose to them twice. If we beat them in the playoffs that is all that matters.
by D-Day77 on Nov 14, 2011 9:32 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
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whats baltimore going to do without Rey and Ed? Whats the steelers going to do with out Troy and Harrison? They can’t play forever.
AMAS
Troy...don't know yet
Harrison has replacements in place. They are in the second or third year of their development right now. It usually takes new players 3 seasons to crack the starting line up in PItt
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Well said Josh.
I don’t know if I hate the Steelers or the pompous-ass fans that they have…heck, let’s just hate all of them!
The fans are far worse to me
Then again, if I were one of these colossal idiots who lived in the rust belt with an evaporating manufacturing base (and can you blame companies for not wanting to hire knuckle-dragging, drooling union-types like these guys?), was married to a woman with more facial hair than me, knew my kids had a better chance of receiving a Darwin award than of contributing something positive to society, and had to look at Cleveland as a step UP in life, I might wrap far too much of my self-identity in sports team as well.
"The only thing we have to fear is... Mike Brown himself."
by DrainBamage on Nov 14, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Take away the first two drives from the steelers
the bengals win. Of course you cant take away plays, but the bengals did make the right adjustments. We had 5 sacks without our best D lineman. And didn’t have our number one WR for last half. Rest AJ and make sure he is ready for the next steelers game. We can beat the Ravens and Browns without AJ. Anyone know the status of Wade?
AMAS
outclassed?
I think in the 4th quarter we saw the value of Green…….We just didn’t have the play maker to go up and get it……The loss of Hall is huge though……I don’t know how we adjust……What is the status of Pacman…..
Secondary
continues to be a huge weakness…….I dont know if we can overcome this one……this year……I am still highly encouraged about this team…..Dalton will figure out this league soon enough
ALSO
Do you guys think we start out too conservative….It seems that we are in the BRAT offense for the first few drives….Then we give it to Dalton to air it out…..It seems that Dalton is constantly playing from behind
Class
Was it classy when Green went up over 3 of your top defenders and brought it in………GOD I HATE STEELERS FANS……arrogant and idiotic…..terrible combination
The real Question
I don’t think there is any real question that the Bengals played well against a Steeler team that couldn’t afford to go 0 -3 in their division.
The real question is how do the react to the loss. We are watching the Lions and Buffalo go belly up after their initial success. So the question is can the Bengal prevent that from happening to them, particularly with the three games coming up. There is a lot of football left in the season, and no one is running away with this division. The Ravens loss yesterday was good news, but it will piss them off, and they will be ready for next week.
If the Bengals can continue to learn and improve during this next stretch, instead of getting discouraged, they can still be playing for a playoff spot when the Ravens come to our house for the last game.
Once they understand that they can play with the big boys, it may be time to open up the offense a little, and let the kid throw the ball down field.
by RPMK on Nov 14, 2011 10:00 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I kind of think our guys are a bit pissed off too. Both teams will have a definate attitude.
They play much better at their house than tthey do on the road. They lost to the Tutans, Jags and Seahawks – teams we beat. Iwowuld say this is anyone’s game with a very slight edge to the Ravens. Frankly, I think they are a better team overall. But, the second game, the last game of the season, depending on where we stand injury wise I think we should win.
Much depends on Reed. He is dinged up a bit and didn’t play so well yesterday. How did the Steelers/Ravens gamae go regarding the ability to bet tothe QB? I didn’t see much of the game. We hit Ben 13 times – hard and 5 of them were sacks. I don’t think Flacco can take a beating like Ben and I don’t think he has the elusivness and pocket presence. This may be a big plus for us, especially if Dunlap is back full strength.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
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Agree with EVERYTHING! I would add the BS holding call on the second to last drive.
Love the Pitt shot at the end.
what was that call!? how did a flag come out, literally they were just standing there.
by TheVilified on Nov 14, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
That was a ridiculous call.
It happens in games, we’ve been on the right side of it from time to time (for example, that “late hit” on I think Hawkins that gave us 1st and goal. That was pretty ticky tack, and we ended up needing the extra downs to get the TD). But holding calls are the worst. They are so subjective, so hard to see, so inconsistently called, and so devastating to drives. At the very least, I wish the league would realize how difficult they are to call accurately and make it a 5 yard penalty. 10 yards seems absurd. Or you could even have a “flagrant hold” penalty on something blatantly obvious that stops a big sack, similar to an intentional grounding penalty.
If I were an offensive lineman (or a guy coaching offensive linemen) I’d tell them to go ahead and grab a guy if it was obvious he was going to get by you and crush your QB. The penalty is so inconsistent that you’re just as likely to get away with it as not.
I can't put the late hit on Hawkins anywhere near the same breath as the holding call
Hawkins was clearly on the ground when he was piled on.
The Holding call was atrocious. That being said, I’m not going to blame the loss on a call. We had a lot of opportunities to make plays and win the game and we fell short. With the injuries we sustained I think we had a good game and no way can anyone say we were outclassed. Amazing even most of the national media is saying that the Bengals proved they are a Playoff Contender.
I'm certain the ref called holding
but the nfl.com says “Illegal use of the hands” and Lance McLancelance said it was hands to the face.
It definitely was not holding. We watched for that on the replay and just couldn’t find it. I think the announcer said that as well, which is why we were looking for holding.
by supergrover on Nov 14, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
That might explain it
Because the ref DEFINITELY called holding and there was nothing even remotely like a hold going on. Even if there was, it was in the middle of a huge scrum and I can’t imagine any ref seeing it. THey would have seen a hand to the facemask, though, since it would have pushed the guy’s head up out of the pile. I’ll have to go rewatch it.
That being said...
Isn’t hands to the face a 15 yard personal foul? We were only penalized 10 yards. Here’s one of those weird things, but you back us up 15 yards instead of 10 and it changes the play calling and maybe ends up with a different outcome. Either way, CONSISTENCY ON PENALTIES PLEASE, NFL.
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And if your talking about the second call on whit they said illegal.hands to the face on Harrison.
by JCompton41 on Nov 14, 2011 11:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not outclassed
We just lost. We had our chances to win or tie the game and we didn’t make the plays when it counted.
What annoys me most is how we come out of the gates so slow on defense every week. We end up playing from a hole and have to fight our way out of it. That’s fine against bad teams but doesn’t bode well against good ones. We need a consistant 60 min effort and we aren’t getting it. If/when we do we will be contenders—until then it will be tough to get over the hump and beat great teams consistantly.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
I was REALLY pissed yesterday...
But I’ve had some time to reflect. I still think we’re lucky that one huge pass to Mike Wallace sailed long, or the score would have been much more lopsided. But overall, it was the loss of AJ that killed us. You have to figure he makes at least 2 or 3 more receptions down the stretch, especially in those last two drives, and that could have been the difference. And on the flip side, his “replacements” in Simpson and Caldwell were just dreadful. Dalton’s first INT was by NO means his fault. Caldwell literally just swatted the ball 10 yards away right at a defender. Dalton put it in his hands and he made a terrible play. The second INT is a little more questionable…Yes I think Simpson could have run a better route and should have known where Gay was, but it was also an aggressive throw into a dangerous part of the field. That being said, if Green’s on the field, there’s a good chance we’re going to him that entire drive, or at the very least he’s being double teamed opening up softer zones.
We weren’t out-classed by the Steelers, no. But I also wouldn’t get too excited about that statement, because it says as much to how lackluster the Steelers played as it does to how “well” we played. And the fact that we can’t weather the loss of AJ for even a few quarters is a big concern. Not to mention that the rest of this year now hangs almost entirely on the health of Adam Jones’ hamstring.
Hawkins
As I said last week, Hawkins needs to be a starter, he has earned it and i am so sick of watching caldwell drop 5 passes a game.
by TheVilified on Nov 14, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
I really like Hawkins
But I don’t think he’s ready to be the #2 guy. He’s great for depth, and maybe by next year he could be getting there, but I also haven’t seen him run anything like a deep route yet. He seems like a better Andre Caldwell replacement than a Jerome Simpson replacement. That’s valuable and all, but we’ll also have Shipley back next year. So Hawkins as a #4 guy is great, btu we still need a Chris Henry-type #2.
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I love Hawkins… he’s definitely one of my favorites, but he’s a Darren Sproles, do everything type. Not a #2 type. I was really hoping that guy was Jerome, but Jerome looked like garbage yesterday and is a dropped pass waiting to happen. I think we need to find a more realiable #2 guy next year. Not somebody spectacular, but a reliable #2 with good hands that runs crisp routes…
Can't really agree.
You mention he hasn’t ran a deep route like Simpson. Name me one play where Simpson has gotten behind the defense and made the reception? Not the big play against Denver because that was a slant that he broke, which I will add I think Hawkins has that same ability to break a short/medium catch for a big gain.
What separates Hawkins and Simpson or Caldwell so far in my mind is that Hawkins has been FAR more consistent. Most of the time we don’t need Simpson or Caldwell to catch a 40 yard pass, but they absolutely kill us when they drop passes between 7 and 15 yards EVERY WEEK! I’ve not seen Hawkins drop one catchable pass!
I guess I'm thinking more of the last couple games of 2010 for Simpson
He hasn’t been getting behind anyone, but we also haven’t really been asking anyone besides AJ to do that this year. Trust me, though, you don’t have to sell me on Simpson and Caldwell needing to be upgraded. I’m all for giving Hawkins a bigger look. All I said was that I haven’t seen it happen yet so I’m a little hesitant to say “Yeah we should be set with Hawkins as the #2 moving forward.” It’d be GREAT if he ended up being that guy. Would really free us up in the next couple drafts.
Ok, yea I think I agree with you after your explanation
I’m not saying Hawkins should be the future #2. I’m saying that from what I’ve seen so far from him he gives this team a better chance to win because he is so much more consistent then Simpson and Caldwell.
Since we don’t seem to ask Simpson to go deep then that takes his advantage to go deep away when comparing him to Hawkins. When they want Simpson to go deep they can still bring him in and move Hawkins to the slot.
Hawkins definitely needs more playing time and
in fact I would argue this offense would be better with him starting opposite of AJ. We don’t always need a spectacular catch like AJ makes but we do need more receivers to be consistent like AJ has been for the most part. I can’t recall Hawkins dropping a catchable pass, not fighting for the ball, or ending his route before completion. These are all things I’ve personally saw both Caldwell and Simpson do.
We need better consistency from our Receivers not named AJ Green and Hawkins seems to be the best option. Also, I don’t want to sell Hawkins short he does have the potential for a big play and has made the most of the limited opportunites that he has been given. Give the man more snaps and maybe even a start!
You very well might be right
He showed a ton of speed on that reverse end around, and great hands on that post route that drew the late hit. I just haven’t seen them call his number on a deep route.
Comments from the Steelers themselves tell me that Hawkins should play more
I read that Troy actually called for their blitz D to be limited to allow him to be able to cover Hawkins. Troy just couldn’t run with him. That is a pretty big compliment when one player causes a DC to adjust his scheme to account for him.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Even more so when it's the best defensive player in the game
asking his DC to adjust the scheme.
"I thought, 'Ball, please get down and into my hands.'"
-AJ Green
I watched the game from Pittsburgh...
…and let me say this, I was very proud to be a Bengals fan. We came in tight in the first quarter, but roared back. We ended up losing on some not surprising “rookie” mistakes but I’m not upset.
The big play was the non-interception on Roethlisberger’s errant pass into double coverage—two Bengals fighting over the ball and it falls to the ground. Make that play, and it’s a different game.
Although I got some ribbing from my many Steeler fan friends, they saw the same game I saw, and let’s just say the AFC North better get used to the phrase “Dalton completes touchdown pass to Green.”
The future so bright, I gotta wear shades.
Totally Agree
The non-interception would have stopped their scoring drive plus we’d then have great field position. Possible 14 point swing.
They only got a FG on that drive.
But yeah, Nelson needs to hold onto that ball. I won’t go so far as to bash Hall liek some people were doing yesterday…he was trying to breakup the pass and didn’t realize Nelson had such great position on it.
it's all rewrites of history but...
If Bengals get that and return for score, it’s tied.
If O takes over and only gets a field goal and all else goes the same, then it’s 21-20 and we are drviing for a winning field goal and not having to get those extra yards with 2 minutes in the game.
\and if the Germans invaded England instead of trying just bombing…
by supergrover on Nov 14, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
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Actually, the Bengals would have been up 17-14 if picked and returned.
by supergrover on Nov 14, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Not to mention that drive was a long sustained drive where
they routinely completed long/medium 3rd downs which in some ways drained our defense. Sure our Defense didn’t play like they were wore out but with all the injuries (including Hall’s later on THAT drive) had to add up.
If we make that play we definitely took the momentum back and likely the lead with a TD. Those are the type of plays that we have to make against the really good teams.
On both of the int drives
I was absolutely confident that we were driving for the tie.
Of course, they were intercepted… but I felt that the boys could do it. Not in a “hoping for another miracle” like 2009, but truly felt they had it in them.
Hell, even after the 2nd int I felt it and was hoping the defense could hold for a 3 and out, but they got through.
Don't forget that phantom holding call on Whit late in the game...
what garbage! I was so mad. We convert third down and we get jobbed on a horrible call. I know the game didn’t ride on this one play… but that was a critical blown call. that changed the game for us.
We did miss one big interception as well for Rothlesburger when Hall and Nelson collided, so outclassed garbage is silly. If anything, I think we proved we are in or near the same class as the Steelers as far as talent goes.
If anything it just makes next week's game bigger
Personally, I’m not sure we can go into a pissed off Baltimore with a banged up secondary and come out with a win, but if we can put up a good fight again it will still make a statement that we’re heading in the right direction.
I think we can!
I think Flacco is just very mediocre and makes a lot of mistakes. Not to mention he isn’t going to pick apart a defense, so we don’t need to rely on our secondary as much. I think he will throw quite a few turnovers and our dline will hold Ray Rice to a pretty mediocre performance.
I think Baltimore has a bit of an advantage playing at home. The road is what is giving them fits.
My personal hope has to do with the growth of Dalton after that last game. LeBeau is a much more difficult schemer than almost any teams DC in the league. The Ravens D is perhaps a bit more physiacl, but not much, and is a much more basic scheme. If we have Green, Gresham and Hawkins – and – if someone can bitch slap either Cadwell or Simpson awake I think Dalton can score some points. I understand that Reed is playing hurt as well. I do give them the edge at this point but it wouldn’t take more than a bad play or tow by them or a great play or two by us to swing it our way.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
ok
i understand your problem with the hold call. but come on, there were b.s calls/no calls going both ways all game (Timmons?) I don’t know who said this but it’s something along the lines of “don’t put yourself in a position for refs to decide it”
Either way…kill the dirty birds, have your players watch out for chop blocks and intentional helmet to helmet hits though
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All of this quibbling about the refs is just pointless
We just have to accept that if you are to win a game you have to play well enough on all of the other plays that it overcomes the margin of error by the refs. They make bad calls every game, sometimes by throwing the flag when they shouldn’t and sometimes they don’t when they should. I see it every game. But I also don’t see any evidence that over the long haul they play favorites. The point is that a penalty is what they say it is and if one occurs and they don’t call it it just isn’t a penalty.
It gets old when after every game there are people on both sides complaining about something that nobody can do any thing about. These refs are just guys. I am confident that they are doing their best. They get graded every week and those with too low of a grade simple don’t stay employed long. They want to get it right as much as possible because their job is on the line.
It is very simple. If it is called it is a penalty. If it isn’t called it isn’t. All of the whining and complaining about it is simply a tempest in a teapot (as my mother used to say). We lost the game because we just made too many mistakes and the Steelers made fewer. That is all there is to it. This whole line of discussion is simple pointless.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Well said Boss
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Another thing about Dalton's 2nd INT
I said this last week after watching a lot of NFL Films slo-mo replays of Dalton: It is REALLY easy to read his eyes. I don’t know if it’s something about the shape of them or his complexion or what, but when you watch his face in the pocket, his eyes are like giant neon lights. You can see EXACTLY where he’s looking even from 20 yards away. Part of the problem now is that he’s locking onto guys too early and too long, and he’ll get better at that as he progresses, but while watching those replays I was thinking “A really good secondary is going to see that and pick him apart one of these days.” Personally, i thought it was going to be Polamalu. But we’ve got Ed Reed next week. I’ve always wondered why QB’s don’t wear tinted visors like Michael Vick.
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of the problem now is that he’s locking onto guys too early and too long,
I mentioned that before the game to the people I was watching with. We/they paid attention and I disagree that he does it too much. The TD to Gresham was a look off (and a heck of a situational awareness, as wassisface was coming to pound him there)
He's getting better
I mean he’s a rookie, it’s going to happen. The Gresham TD was just a phenomenal play by Dalton all around – how many QB’s in the league can make drop a ball into the arms of a moving target while off your feet getting drilled in the chest by a full speed charging James Harrison? My friend looked at me at that moment and said “That’s it…I’m getting a Dalton jersey.” He had another big throw at one point in the game where he did an amazing pump fake that made the entire secondary jump out of position. He’s the real deal. His mediocre numbers are much more a reflection of his receivers-not-named-AJ than they are of him.
To me he seemed better at looking off receivers early in the season than he has been lately.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
He also looked off the LB's on the completion to Cochzart
There are a few times when he locks on to a receiver, but not as often as some have claimed.
He’s shown the ability to look off Safeties and LB’s and that is the most important thing. One of Dalton’s greatest attributes is that he rarely makes the same mistake over. He learns very quickly and I’m sure he will learn from these mistakes. When he loses you can see the hurt in the kids face unlike anyone I can remember seeing on this team.
It was a missed tackle by Domata Peko and Robert Geathers from the nine-yard line that allowed Rashard Mendenhall to score the eventual game-winning touchdown.
Crocker was at fault for that play too. overpursued mendenhall, and then gave up on him when he was wrapped up by the other defender. didn’t get back in place until it was too late
I couldn't AGREE MORE!
I even mentioned it in the Game Thread on here. Then I re-watched it to see if I was right and I was.
I’m not sure if Crocker that it was play action, or what but he definitely could have came up and put a hit on Mendenhall when Peko and Geathers had slowed him down. Instead he froze and watched him run right past him then he reacted.
Tackleing was a big problem yeaterday.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Just thought it should be said
The attitude of whichever BTSC writer wrote that article isn’t really reflective of the entirety of that blog. I went over and left a few comments on their victory thread, and literally every reply I got was some sort of acknowledgement that we’re contending for the playoffs now and in the future. They are aware that this Bengals team is a real threat to them.
"I thought, 'Ball, please get down and into my hands.'"
-AJ Green
my deepest respects to the author of this post
we didn’t outclass you. this was a hard fought battle until the end. your team is unbelievably maturing within such a short time. if you read more posts in BTSC you’ll find that steelers fans are talking highly of ur team. best of luck next week! ur team now has an elite O line, elite D line, great young Qb, great young Wr-s in AJ, Hawkins and Simpson, great Te, and your team started to play with passion. hopefully u’ll sweep ratties and clowns. my sincere respects. for next week – go bengalls!
by Bonek on Nov 14, 2011 12:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Thanks - very nice reply
You guys were simply the better team yesterday. See you in the playoffs? :)
by steve henderson on Nov 14, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
The missed interception was HUGE
Nelson has to make that play but hell that why he plays defense. I believe Jones and Mays make that play for huge return. Cant wait till both get on feild. Wilson hasn’t killed us but Mays has to see feild.
by pray4gm11 on Nov 14, 2011 12:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
As a Steelers fan ...
I think that you guys were definitely in the Steelers’ class on Sunday. Your defense was outstanding in the fourth quarter. That being said I think Dalton showed some rookie nerves – if Ike Taylor didn’t have hands of stone, it would have been 3 picks in the 4th quarter, not 2. Nonetheless you guys are a good second receiver and another good CB away.
I don't think anyone disagrees with you here Tequilla - on any of your points
Ben is one tough mother. He got hit big time, what was it 13 times yesterday. He got up slow a couple of time but just like a Timex – he took a licking and kept on ticking. Man, I hate that guy.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Good that the opportunity to gain revenge comes quick...
…the best way to gain the necessary respect is to earn it with wins. The Bengals showed the Steelers too much respect early.
Now go beat them in Pittsburgh.
by wiseking on Nov 14, 2011 1:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
It is not within anyone's power to give respect
Respect has to be earned. If we don’t have it it is only because we have not earned it. If this team wants to earn respect they have to go out there and beat the other teams on a consistent basis. We had a chance yesterday and we simple didn’t get the job done. Out next chance is next week. Win and they get it lose and they don’t. You don’t earn the respect we are looking for by just showing up and playing hard. You have to win. If team doesn’t like the respect they are getting the need to go out and get it or just STFU. There is no crying in football either.
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