Gresham Touchdown Overturned: Bengals Still Reduce Deficit To Seven Following Mike Nugent 27-Yard Field Goal
With over eight minutes remaining in the game, down by ten on third and six from the Bengals 23-yard line, Andy Dalton faces down a massive blitz in his face. He throws it over the middle where Lardarius Webb is called for a 24-yard pass interference on Jerome Simpson, pushing the offense to the Bengals 47-yard line. Dalton fires a missile on the following play to Jermaine Gresham, picking up 15 yards and setting up a first down at Baltimore's 27-yard line. Flushed out of the pocket on the ensuing play, Dalton slides after picking up 11 yards to the Ravens 27-yard line. An incomplete pass later and Dalton scrambles for another 10 yards, tip-toeing down the left sidelines, picking up the first down to the Ravens 17-yard line.
With just under seven minutes remaining in the game, Dalton hands off to Brian Leonard who picks up a limited two-yard gain. Jerome Simpson picked up another five yards, setting up a third and two from the Ravens nine-yard line. Dalton takes the snap and throws the football down the left sidelines, hitting tight end Jermaine Gresham in the chest. The football pops out and Gresham, with maximum concentration, finally gains possession of the football, keeps both feet in bounds, completing the nine-yard touchdown reception.
Officials reviewed the play and determined that Gresham didn't complete the act of receiving the football as the ball shifted from his fingers to his palm with the football trapped on the ground.
Mike Nugent converts the 27-yard field goal and the Bengals reduce the deficit to seven.
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Unfortunate outcome, but......
what a show! Competition at it’s best. I’m very proud of the Bengals, and this is a great one to put in their memory bank with respect to what components they’ve got and what they’re capable of as a team.
BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT
Overturn a TD and miss a clear horsecollar tackle. Just BULLSHIT!
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by KentuckianaBrowncoat on Nov 20, 2011 4:25 PM EST reply actions
THEY GOT SCREWED BIG TIME THAT F—-ING RULE JUST FLAT OUT SUCKS AND IS UNFAIR THEY NEED TO GET RID OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think the rule is okay
it’s either just very poorly written or poorly adjucated.
At what point does it no longer count toward falling to the ground? 3 steps? 10 steps? He had 3 or 4 steps (one being out of bounds) before hitting the ground. The ball, like in the Calvin Johnson case, was used to balance or whatever on the ground. They said that in the CJ game, that shouldn’t have been a discounting factor.
Can someone help me understand that ruling?
I have read the rule, and I even acknowledge it was the “correct” call, but why does the rule exist?
Though the refs made the correct call, Gresh caught the ball, got two feet in, made a football move in extending the ball across the plain and then, after when the play would have been dead anywhere else on the field, he loses the ball. What does the rule prevent? Why is it in place?
Also, the reality is Gresh showed more control than TSmith did on his touchdown, where Smith did not have control while his first foot, the right foot, was on the ground and he did not get control until it was off the ground.
If you asked the Ref, or any human, did Gresh catch the ball? It’d be a yes. Did he get both feet in? Yes. Did he make a football move? Yes. Did he cross the plain? Yes. Is it a touchdown? No. But why?
"why does the rule exist"
EVERYONE has asked that since it burnt Calvin Johnson last year.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Nov 20, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
You lost me with
“he loses the ball”
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it wasn't the correct call
I agree that the Calvin Johnson rule is mighty stupid, but it doesn’t apply here. It is strictly for balls caught in the end zone. When you catch the ball and then cross the plane, it’s a TD as soon as you cross the plane. The only way control of the ball after hitting the ground matters AT ALL is if they’re claiming he didn’t have possession before he crossed the line. It looked to me like he had it solidly between his hands when it crossed the line, ergo TD. The rules about getting 2 feet in and making a football move don’t apply here.
Wow
Gresham took two steps, and yes the ball hit the ground but he had control. If that is an incompletion, you should not be able to reach the ball over the goalline if it hits the ground. Same thing.
Gresham
Should have caught the call cleanly to begin with and it would not have come down to the refs. That last drive should have been ebding in a game tieing FG.
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bengals get hosed by the refs
Every game.fuck the nfl and their refs.
by OBlock85 on Nov 20, 2011 6:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No. That's whiney.
Every team has something that they would have liked done different every game, I’m sure.
The Gresham one burns me because the rule is so cotton picking confusing and counterintuitive. He made moves with the ball in control.
We had something similar last week with Simpson being tackled and then the ball stripped as he laid on the ground. (Similar in that it was a rule that doesn’t make sense)
As I see it, the refs made the right call...
It’s unfortunate, but what killed the TD was Gresham’s bobble at the 2 yard line. Since he didn’t have control of the ball before he crossed the goal line, he was still a receiver in the end zone and the Johnson rule says you have to have control throughout the catch AND fall. If he had not bobbled the ball, he would have been considered a runner, not a receiver and he could have just crossed the plane and it would’ve been ruled a TD. It’s a b.s. rule, but a rule none the less and I believe the refs got it right.

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