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3 Ints In A Game Is Not A Good Stat But....

The team played very well in the 4th quarter.  The fight that they bring when down can be very miraculous.  Dalton looked like a rookie for most part in this game.  But he also looked like a stud.  His pass to caldwell in the 4th and simpson in the 1st show you that he has some balls.  He fully trusts his receivers to make a play.  Although he should have that faith in his teammates.  Andre Caldwell has got to go.  Ive noticed from Dalton's Ints in todays game they were directed to Caldwell.  Of course the blame goes to Dalton as well.  Caldwell is not a good reciever.  Yea I know Caldwell made a good TD catch in the 4th.  But as a wideout you are suppose to make that catch.  Caldwell drops too many passes.  Dalton's completion rating would be up if his receivers would catch the freaking ball.  Even on one play Caldwell had caught a ball and allowed the defender to strip the ball from him resulting in an incomplete pass.  The fact of the matter is, is that we need a true number 2 WR.  Simpson showed that he can be that guy today.  But we need more of a consistent effort from him each an every week.  Even if Simpson plays lights out the rest of the season.  I'd still take a WR in the draft, no later than the 4th round.  Names such as Michael Floyd, Marvin McNutt are attractive options.  But I really like Marvin Jones from Cal and Ryan Broyles. 

 

A good game was played and watched by both the Ravens and Bengals.  But here are my thoughts moving forward to the end of the season that I think the Bengals coaching staff need to address.

 

The first issue I see in the offense is that the Bengals do not seem to throw the ball in the middle of the field.  I see a whole lot of real estate in that area.  Gresham needs to be utilized more.  He is a stud and Gruden needs to use him like one.  Him going up the middle stretches the field.  Although I like the play calling this year, he has got to use him more, some how some way.

The second issue is that Dalton's Ints are coming more from the right side from the last two games.  These quick comeback routes of 5 to 7 yards are starting to blow me.  Its seems that this is a big misscommunication problem between him and his WR's.  Mainly Caldwell and Simpson.  Dalton and both Caldwell and Simpson deserve the blame but it needs to be fixed.  Defenses like Pitt and Baltimore have done well playing instinctively towards these type of routes. P.S.  Please Excuse my football knowledge or teminology,  Im assuming these are comeback routes but  I maybe incorrect.

 

All in all I love the way this team plays.  These were some of the growing pains I expected from the Bengals offense this year and its clearly showing.  Especially with the option play, lol trying to run it like Tebow but i love the passion both Jay Gruden and Dalton display.  At least we know Gruden has fresh ideas rather than stale Bratkowski.   I know as a fan each and every game we will be in it.  Win or lose.  A change has emerged within this team and building through the draft is the next step.  A solid CB, OG, WR, S and RB is very needed to take this team to even further heights.  As for how the D played im not going to rant on the obvious.  Secondary play.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Cincy Jungle's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Cincy Jungle's writers or editors.

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Throwing the ball down the middle of the field is throwing into the strength of their D.

I have to blame Dalton for the loss. Two ints where he didn’t look off the DB. I also credit his with keeping us in it but he needs to clean this problem up.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Nov 20, 2011 5:45 PM EST reply actions  

that maybe so

But the middle of the field is wide open on a lot of plays this year. Its not just the ravens game its other games as well. Most of daltons completions are on the outside to his recievers. I haven’t seen too many in the middle to gresham. I guess that’s more defensive scheming than offense

A change needs to happen to this organization. Mike Brown please step down.

by Mr.Blanket on Nov 20, 2011 6:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You guess correctly sir.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Nov 20, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

From what I've seen thus far.....

yeah Dalton threw too many picks and it probably cost us the game but he HAS to get some help from his receivers. A QB needs a guy he can throw to in a one-on-one matchup and be confident that the worst that can happen is an incomplete pass. As a WR in the NFL you have to fight for every pass because if you can prevent an INT and you didn’t it is as much on you as it is on the QB. Chad made a lot of great plays in Cincy but he was notorious for not working hard enough to get the pass and it resulted in a lot of Carson Palmer INTs that could have been prevented.

by Toledoray7 on Nov 20, 2011 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

completely agree

A change needs to happen to this organization. Mike Brown please step down.

by Mr.Blanket on Nov 20, 2011 6:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree also.

He needs help and he dosesn’t have it.

by redrifle14 on Nov 20, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

interesting state

Of daltons 12 ints, one was to gresham and simpson, 3 to green and 7 to caldwell.

A change needs to happen to this organization. Mike Brown please step down.

by Mr.Blanket on Nov 20, 2011 6:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I don't want it to feel like we are picking on Caldwell, but.......

I have never seen him play up to his potential. He had that stretch a few years back when we swept the division of game winning catches but since then I haven’t seen anything. With Simpson’s drug situation we will be forced to draft a WR probably in the 2nd or 3rd next year and then HOPE Shipley can stay healthy and Gresham continues to improve at the TE postion.

by Toledoray7 on Nov 20, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

despite those picks Dalton has the poise of a great one IMHO

the guy just doesnt blink…a rookie,just thrown his third pick and put the team in a 31-14 hole: the normal response from alot of qbs, never mind rookies would be collapse…not this kid,he is a gamer. all the good QBs have short memories and play great when its on the line, he has some Brady and dare I say it a bit of Roethlisburger(Yeeuchh!) to his play.

by pilks1075 on Nov 20, 2011 7:11 PM EST reply actions  

hands are critical

Weird how Simpson and Gresham struggled to get balls that were clean and in their basket (Caldwell had to pin one against his facemask to catch as well) and Hawkins is out there catching shit that has already passed him.

by supergrover on Nov 20, 2011 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

Its odd to me

They seem to have such hands issues, Daltons ball looks very “catchable” but I guess new system and rookie qb with no training camp makes all of that jelling take forever.

by TheVilified on Nov 20, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

probably so

But its apparent we need new wr help

A change needs to happen to this organization. Mike Brown please step down.

by Mr.Blanket on Nov 21, 2011 12:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

They're still finding out what works and what doesn't.

They haven’t had the system or the quarterback to do what they’re doing now. It’s a work in progress and Dalton will definitely learn. Just look at him.

by fletchersmith on Nov 21, 2011 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

+1

its going to take a season or two to know what Andy can and can’t throw

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Nov 21, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Caldwell didn't have much upside coming out of college

That was the whole reason we drafted him because we knew he was pro ready coming out of college. He has definately hit a wall and I don’t see him getting better from here on out. So I can see him walking after this year.

As far as Andy, I have been very pleased what he has done so far as a rookie. But at sometime we have to question some of his throws. Especially against PItt and Baltimore, we need points on the board. So instead of throwing it into double coverage at the end of the half, check it down and take the three points. Instead of throwning the ball to the inside shoulder of the receiver, throw towards the outside where there are no defenders. I think once they work more on the situational part of game plan he wont be making the same high risk throws.

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Nov 21, 2011 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

Artrell Hawkins (daddy hawk)

says Caldwell didn’t commit fully coming out of the route. He wasn’t quite in position as the ball was coming, so he couldn’t see Reed coming for the ball. The ball was placed properly and it was a good call. Caldwell should have committed a penalty to prevent Reed getting it. (then he said it should have been Simpson running that route because he can jump much higher)

by supergrover on Nov 21, 2011 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

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