I Dont Think This Is A Good Sign

by Touhue Cha on Nov 20, 2011 7:53 PM EST

Dropping 2 games to the"Elite Teams in the AFC"

The Ravens game wasnt a good as i thought here are some issues we need to fix

Establish the Running Game
Control the Line of Scrimmage
Protect the Football

Those were the issues we had in the Ravens game.

I also want to say that we didnt even sack Joe Flacco, he had all the time in the world to scan through the field and hit his WR in stride,

Leon Hall Injury and JJoe's Departure to Houston

has hurt Zimmer's scheme vs The most elite teams

Hall and JJoe were the focus point because they could play man to man which allowed Zimmer to have different looks to confuse Flacco in the past, but not with both guys out, Zimmer had to play it more safe

Overall review

Dalton hit a brick wall today with the INT's
WR was nearly non-existence even though was seeming to have a big day
Team didnt EXCUTE THE GAMEPLAN
Couldnt get pressure on Flacco
we let Ray Rice Beat us, he was able to run around without anyone being to tackle him
Turnover and Penalties in the Clutch has killed our Drives

Overall, I think that Jerome was alright, I think he has been overshadow with AJ Green performances, Caldwell has the same issue as Jerome, he hasnt have any separation from the defenders, Hawkins has won this won, he should be the 4th option coming into next year

WR for next year

AJ Green
Jerome Simpson
Jordan Shipley
Andrew Hawkins
Andre Caldwell (can leave through FA)
Ryan Whalen

Well Im thinking that we dont need a WR right away, only just a speed WR to Compliment

AJ Green and Jerome Simpson

Jerome has been inconsistent with his play, but that can be fix with Jay Gruden Calling the plays.

Overall the Bengals started off slow, on Defense we slowed them down but i guess we werent playing smart and started to creep up to the LOS and they beat us with the long bomb to Smith.....

Issue on teh Defense

Pass rush wasnt there today
Coverage in the Secondary wasnt good
Blown Coverages and Plays

Its going to be a lot of questions about us being a contender, but i think we can still make the playoffs if we beat Everyone else on the schedule

the browns

at pitt

home to the texans

at st. louis

home to the cards

home to the ravens

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Just Grill Mon

The game wasn’t as bad as you make it seem. we did in fact, sack Joe flacco. thanks to Geno Atkins. and did you see Jerome? he did pretty good. and Andre stepped up from last weeks awful showing. and Gresham got Robbed. and we woulda possibly won that game in overtime if not for the refs. and our secondary did look turrible. but i totally think we should pick up another WR to compliment AJ. because the past 2 weeks. we havent had the same big play ability without him in there.

by spencodude on Nov 20, 2011 8:25 PM EST reply actions

well i see what u mean

just a problem with showing up every week being able to play

by Touhue Cha on Nov 20, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions

yeah and i totally agree with you on that actually.

by spencodude on Nov 20, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions

if we can come out and play like we did every sunday we have a chance against the ELITE TEAMS

by Touhue Cha on Nov 20, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions

Exactly

give us a year or 2 and we will be one of the ELITE TEAMS

by spencodude on Nov 20, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions

Ummm,

Mike Brown really has his work cut out for him, b/c he has a lot of key players to sign. We have a bunch of FAs for next year wanting more money…And thats a problem for Mike Brown.

by WHYUS!! on Nov 21, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions

Agree and disagree

Simpson stepped up and Gresham got robbed. Caldwell was terrible. One TD catch doesn’t erase all of the drops and misses over the last 2 weeks.

by redrifle14 on Nov 20, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

this exactly

A change needs to happen to this organization. Mike Brown please step down.

by Mr.Blanket on Nov 21, 2011 12:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

Stop posting on this website until you can speak English.

Your grammar is as good as the refs’ play calling.

by peko'sponytail on Nov 20, 2011 8:26 PM EST reply actions

whats ur problem??

by Touhue Cha on Nov 20, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions

We are one of the three youngest teams in the NFL. We have a rookie QB who

lost his biggest target facing two of the top 4-5 teams in the game. We were on a drive to tie in the last two minutes two weeks in a row. We need to win 4 of the next six games to kake the playoff with three pretty sure victories if we play like we should. We then would need to win onw of three difficult games against thr Ravens, Steelers and Texans. I am pretty proud of this team right now. Many of the fans have pretty unrealistic expectations that this team is almost making happen. We have 5 draft picks in the first 3 rounds this coming draft and 4 in the first three in the next draft. I think things are unfolding just they was they should – not the way I would wish – but the way they should. The loss is a bummer but I am not discouraged in the least. It is all good and we are still in the playoff hunt big time.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Nov 20, 2011 8:40 PM EST reply actions 3 recs

Way to put things in perspective.

by redrifle14 on Nov 20, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions

+1

A change needs to happen to this organization. Mike Brown please step down.

by Mr.Blanket on Nov 21, 2011 12:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

Right there with you JJ.......

want to be mad and frustrated by these last 2 losses, but we weren’t even supposed to be in the conversation of top AFC North teams after last years debacle. To survive the CP9 fiasco, Ocho’s constant BS and the TO drama to have the team that we do……..I have nothing but optimisim and reason to smile. Sure it would have been nice to win both or at least one of those games, but we’re talented, young and hungry………and don’t forget, armed with draft picks. We’re just getting started, this is how championship teams start.

by The Van Buren Boys on Nov 21, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions

Agreed

What I saw was a young team just finding itself that showed that it can bang with the best of them in one of these wars that only the strong can survive, and a young team that is just now beginning to discover just how much some of its guys can play. Sooner or later they’re going to have to learn some things the hard way. I’ll take them doing some of that in these two games rather than games like the ones in Seattle, Nashville or Jacksonville, where it could easily have happened if they weren’t as good as they are. They’ll see these two teams again, and if they were pretty much ready for them this go-around, they’ll be that much more ready for them then.

by fletchersmith on Nov 21, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions

Totally Agree

Im just saying we need to Execute week in and week out because were on the verge of contending every year with this roster, we just need to get one entire game together against a Elite team to get our confidence going

by Touhue Cha on Nov 21, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions

we cant go in with simpson as 2nd reciever

He’s to inconsistent! Atleast need someone to push him. With aj getting the coverages rolled to him, we need a player who can beat 1 on 1 coverage, and not drop easy balls. Simpson has talent, but he can’t be trusted as a 2nd option. I want garcon or meachem, leaving us with green, garcon/meachem, ship, Simpson, and hawk.

by JCompton41 on Nov 20, 2011 9:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions

1 is Green
2 is Shipley
3 is Simpson

right?

by supergrover on Nov 20, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions

shipleys 3rd in the slot

by JCompton41 on Nov 20, 2011 10:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

yurp

What we really need next year is:

1 Green
2 Draft or FA
3 Shipley
4Simpson
5/ST/rotation/backup Hawkins
6/depth/ Whalen.

Caldwell just isnt making it happen. they can keep him for cheap and have im as the nuber 6 then that works but he will want a bit of money and a starting job probably (and may get it elsewhere). Simpson is not bad but is not a solid number 2 guy. He might get there in a few more years and he has talent so we should keep him but get a solid number 2 to benifit from green taking all of the attention.

Finally, lets not forget how amazing SHip is and what a huge loss that is for Dalton, I hope he comes back as good as new and that he and dalton get some work together in the offseason.

I ALMOST wonder if bringing TO in as a number two for he rest of the season would help us out.. But really I wish we could have gotten Lee Evans that Balt did.

by TheVilified on Nov 20, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions

no t.o!

Palmer didn’t want him back on the raiders, but wanted housh! That says everything. And also don’t spend a first on a reciever if you draft one. Just need a guy who can be consistent, don’t need another superstar.

by JCompton41 on Nov 20, 2011 11:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I was joking about TO. But I was thinking the second rounder for the WR but I am not sure if the proper guy will be available and it may be safer to get one through FA. We should have a bit of cap room.

by TheVilified on Nov 20, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions

would really prefer free agent

But I like mcnutt if he’s around later and we don’t pass on a big need for him

by JCompton41 on Nov 20, 2011 11:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

i agree

I like marvin mcnutt or marvin jones in the draft. Meachum or manningham in FA.

A change needs to happen to this organization. Mike Brown please step down.

by Mr.Blanket on Nov 21, 2011 12:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

I want the lions share of the cap room to go towards keeping what we have together.

Cut loose the 4-5 weakest players and replace them with 4-5 high draft picks and FAs. There are a bunch of players here I want to make sure we keep in the fold, not neccessarily because they are the best players out ther but because they are very good and are good for the team.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Nov 21, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions

+1

D-line being at top of list. I think individually they are each just good players, but the rotation we have them playing in and keeping fresh……they are a great collective unit. Upgrade secondary through draft/fa and keep these guys together and we’ll be in good shape.

by The Van Buren Boys on Nov 21, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions

Yesterday I could hear this and sort of nod. Matbe a week from today I will be able to as well

Today Simpson had 140 yards or so. This week he is alright with me. BTW, I am tired of this AJ Green stuff. We can’t depend on him. Last week we lost and where was he – on the freaking sideline riding a bike. Then today – JEESH – there he was standing around. The dude didin’t even haave a uniform on. Man, talk about lazy and undependable. Then there is this Zimmer guy. WTF! This defense man they let the other team have positive yardage every week. Every freaking week the other team gets positive yardage. If he was any good the other team would have a net -150 yards or so. Yea, this AJ guy and expecially this Zimmer guy – we gotta find someway to replace these guys.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Nov 20, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions

Green is a JOKE!

Seriously though, watch the games and tell me that green and dalton are freaking rookies.. I think the Bengals tricked people and have actually had them on the roster for two previous seasons and are just telling us they are rookies.

by TheVilified on Nov 20, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions

We had jermone on the roster 3 years

so hes basically a rookie… still has only played 13 games

by Bengalsfan024 on Nov 25, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions

Excuse me while I extract my tongue from my cheek.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Nov 21, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions

Supposedly DeAngelo Hall wants to be cut, the Bengals should sign him if the Redskins cut him!!!

by DTFCPDX on Nov 21, 2011 3:20 PM EST reply actions

Hmmmm Idk i would bring him in for a workout but idk about his Character??

by Touhue Cha on Nov 21, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions

not exactly a high character dude, has all the talent in the world, but 10x more inconsistent than Jerome Simpson

But the man can ball. I still wouldn’t screw with the team chemistry, however. Pacman is a suitable alternative. He needs to be lined up outside, pronto. The guy was getting into the game, tackling left and right (by the hair: that was awesome!). Only a couple of games before he starts making plays.

by cincyplayoffwin2012 on Nov 21, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions

WR's next year

if simpson not in jail (which at this point doesnt look likely)

1 Green
2 Simpson (makes mistakes but man what talent)
3. Shipley (caldwell has been killing dalton in the slot 7 ints when throwing to him in the slot)
4. Hawkins (backup slot // WR version of Leonard)
5. Tate.. This spot is usually ST’s so Tate who is still really young with lots of upside
6. Whalyen / Binns / or Another Drafted WR…

Could go alot of ways cant wait to see Binns next year. With shipley out i figured we would have seen whalyen by now who was suppose to have great hands…

TE’s i would like to see next year

Gresham #1
Cochart The blocker that can catch…
Coffman.. Just throw him the ball or use him to take a DE/LBer down the field

by Bengalsfan024 on Nov 25, 2011 1:35 PM EST reply actions