Comparing The 2011 Bengals To Recent Playoff Teams
Many aspects could be argued that this squad is sporting a better team (by definition) than the playoff squads of 2005 and 2009. They rally around each other to put together game-winning drives, leaving nothing on the field. Losses are close and wins are won in the final minutes. You sit back with your feet on the desk, fingers interlocked behind your head without being imprisoned by the emotions of the moment.
That 2005 Bengals squad was something else, if not the best overall product Marvin Lewis put on the field for any given year. Offensively dominate and defensively opportunistic, recording a league-high 44 turnovers -- including 18 interceptions against the NFC North that year. It's not like we expected the team to decline as quickly as they did. Components were established as foundation pieces, such as David Pollack, Odell Thurman, Chris Henry, Eric Steinbach, Carson Palmer, Levi Jones (only a fourth-year player in 2005), Chris Perry (who posted 51 receptions that season) among others. Little did we forecast the quick decline that would follow, ranging from serious and career-ending injuries and off-the-field problems. It was a team built to win that year and maybe the following year or two, but at the time we expected much more than what we received. Regardless that 2005 squad produced five Pro Bowlers (Carson Palmer, Chad Ochocinco, Willie Anderson, Deltha O'Neal, Shayne Graham) and four First-Team All-Pro award winners (Palmer, Chad, Anderson, O'Neal), along with Rudi Johnson who currently holds the team's single-season rushing record of 1,458 yards.
The 2009 squad was simply a surprise. After going 4-11-1 in 2008 with Ryan Fitzpatrick quarterbacking this team through 12 games, high expectations weren't prevalent, even if Carson Palmer was returning from an elbow injury. Still Cincinnati won seven of their first nine, riding the shoulders of a completely redefined offense that trusted and depended on running back Cedric Benson and the league's fourth defense. It was also a redefined Carson Palmer, at least for a time in the first half, leading the team with multiple last-second touchdowns, specifically against the Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steelers. Though Cincinnati would eventually lose steam and struggle in the second half, the Bengals still swept the division, winning the AFC North title for the second time in five seasons.
Though the season is only ten games old, Cincinnati's squad this year is composed of many components. It's a more balanced and well-rounded offense, even though one component this year is better than Cincinnati's 2005 squad -- the tight end position. Though Andy Dalton has surprised us with his calm demeanor and leadership, Carson Palmer in 2005 was one of the elite quarterbacks in the NFL. Rudi Johnson and Chris Perry were more productive than Cedric Benson and Bernard Scott, though Brian Leonard is such a factor that he can't be disregarded. A.J. Green won't reach Chad Johnson's numbers that year, nor will Jerome Simpson or Andre Caldwell produce as much as T.J. Houshmandzadeh. Yet Green is only three touchdowns shy of Johnson that year and Jerome Simpson is averaging four yards or more per reception than Houshmandzadeh in 2005. There is no one on this squad that's anything close to resembling Chris Henry. The respective defenses in 2005 and 2011 couldn't be further apart. Whereas the 2005 squad would force the most turnovers in the NFL that year, the 2011 defense depends on simply preventing the opposing offense from scoring.
Knowing what we know right now, where would you compare this squad with previous Marvin Lewis playoff teams?
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Question for anyone
What is the status of Simpson’s legal issues…..I am just laughing to myself because how in the hell is he not in jail…..8.5 pounds….man what lawyer does this guy have…..AND HE IS STILL PLAYING….wow…
ravens or 49ers
Who are we rooting for tonight?
I don’t get it why would any bengals fan root for ravens? Is it sarcasm
by Jasonistheman11 on Nov 24, 2011 8:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Since the bengals are clearly not fighting for first in the division any more and we’re trying to hold on to the wildcard, the Ravens could easily lose a few games and fight for a wildcard spot with the bengals and the steelers could take hold of the division. But, I guess rooting for the 49ers in our best bet.
We still can get first place in the division
I don’t know why we wouldn’t be fighting to win the division. Mathmatically we can still when the division and possibly get a first round bye. Long shot, but its still possible.
AMAS
If we beat the Ravens or Steelers, and we win the rest of our games, with a little luck included I could see the Bengals winning the division. The last game at home against the Ravens could be a make or break for us. Just have to see how the rest of the season plays out.
Lets just worry about cleveland.
by Jog73 on Nov 24, 2011 10:12 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I can't really compare them to any other Bengals team.
We’ve had the talent before, but never a TEAM like this. I expect big things in the coming years. Superbowl big.
by johnson_cody_18 on Nov 25, 2011 3:50 AM EST reply actions
Honestly, this team reminds me of 2009
All the things we say about the team this year can be said about the 2009 team. They were scrappy, workmen like, solid defense and an offense that made multiple comebacks. Sure, we have different players, but the year has been rather similar, except we beat Pitt/Balt in 2009 and lost this year.
I can definitely see that...
The key difference would be that that team was old and we were seeing their ceiling, while this team is young and we’re looking at their floor.
"I thought, 'Ball, please get down and into my hands.'"
-AJ Green
by Jaegner on Nov 25, 2011 9:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is easily the best defensive line that ML has produced.
and if Leon Hall hadn’t gone down, I would have said it’s his best overall defense during the Lewis era. Hopefully they can fix some things in the secondary (coughCROCKERcough) before the season gets out of hand. Atkins and Dunlap could terrorize QBs for years to come.
I think we can say that the offense is effective, and capable of striking quick, but they don’t seem to have the same ability to sustain drives that the ’05 squad had. I think they miss Shipley a lot – particularly on third downs when they need a sure-handed receiver to pick up a first down (Maybe Hawkins can fill that role now?). And they lack explosiveness in the running game with Benson carrying the rock (Bernard Scott, hint hint).
Still, this feels like a team on the way up. Hopefully their best years are ahead!
All I know is that I genuinely like this team better than any in 20years
Theay are the first real team we have had for a while. I have heard it said that it is hard to get interviews, especially from guys on the DL, as none wants to be viewed individually but rather as a group. Many interviews generally revolve around the guy being interviewed directing the attent to his team mates. Win or lose, I really like where this team is at.
I think other player who are potential FAs view tihis as something they would want to be a part of. I see us having a chance to sign a top notch player, maybe an Oline or secondary guy (hopefully a Safety) to come in a help out right away. That along with the probability that we could have two 1st rounders in the draft before the Steelers and Ravens will help this team get closer to the top as well. IMO we aren’t there yet but I am very optimistic about our chances to be there next year and over the top with another draft the following year. If we sign the players we need to keep long term and add 5-6 top line players we could be the team to beat in 2013 or maybe even in 2012.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
2005 squad was the most talented
the 2009 team was the most overachieving.
and this year’s squad is the most surprising and definitely has the most potential.
I still have mad love for that 2005 team which was 1 torn up knee away from greatness, IMO. The 2009 team was an aberration, if you ask me, as shown by their thoroughly forgettable 2010 record, marred by the T.Ocho fiasco.
The 2011 team have shown alot of promise. The defense, for the most part, has been spot-on. That D-line and linebacker core has made this defense a top notch run stopper. Now that LH is out, that d-backs have left alot to be desired, which is 1 glaring need the team needs to address in the offseason to make this a solid defense, top-to-bottom. The offense is still young, but has the potential to be absolutely dangerous. Adding a more dynamic RB and a more dependable WR to go along with the return of Jordan Shipley as the go-to poessession receiver will give Dalton a plethora of options to throw and hand off to. Big things, baby!
We Believe!!!

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