Bengals Snap Two-Game Losing Streak In 23-20 Win Over The Cleveland Browns
by Josh Kirkendall on Nov 27, 2011 4:43 PM EST
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If Sunday dictated anything, it's that the Bengals are not a playoff team right now. Those were the words I had written as my introduction for the post-game recap that was being formulated early in the third quarter. You can't blame me. It was this week as it is every week, awfully depressing early with an uncontainable joy watching plays being made when the game is on the line.
Consider that in the second quarter, featuring a meltdown by Cincinnati's offense that posted only 20 yards on 11 plays resulting in two punts and a lost fumble that led to Greg Little's three-yard touchdown to give the Browns a 10-point lead, much of the overall depression featured a defense that allowed itself to be handled easily by Cleveland's offense recording seven second-quarter first downs alone.
Blame was vast. Andre Smith struggled mightily against Jabaal Sheard while A.J. Green and Jermaine Gresham were largely non-factors. Nate Clements looked slow and old against a faster and young Greg Little. Colt McCoy's scrambles were a great source that depression with the perfect example coming in the third quarter. Third and 18 from the Browns 40-yard line midway through the third quarter, Colt McCoy looks downfield before taking off and picking up 20 yards on a scramble that would eventually give the Browns a 10-point lead. Playoff teams don't allow an opposing quarterback to scramble 20 yards on third and 18.
But then again, playoff teams tend do exactly what the Cincinnati Bengals did. They win. No matter how they do it, no matter when it happens, no matter who does it, the Bengals win.
Playoff teams that are playing below their best, rise against teams that they're supposed to beat when it matters the most. After Phil Dawson converts a 54-yard field goal to give the Browns a 10-point lead, Andy Dalton launches consecutive passes for 57 yards to A.J. Green (35 yards) and Jermaine Gresham (22 yards), who scored the touchdown late in the third quarter reducing Cincinnati's deficit to three points.
On the Browns' ensuing possession during the first play of the fourth quarter, Geno Atkins lays a shoulder into Colt McCoy's gut just after the quarterback unleashes a floater towards the right sidelines where Reggie Nelson hauls in the pop-up in right field. Cincinnati tied the game following a 40-yard Mike Nugent field goal, capping off a nine-play, 32-yard drive, thanks to a crucial 15-yard Jermaine Gresham reception on third and nine.
Cincinnati's defense would go on to force consecutive three and out possessions before forcing Phil Dawson to convert a 55-yard field goal that fell well short and well left, giving Cincinnati the football at their own 45-yard line with just under two minutes remaining and two timeouts in their pocket. If you don't mind spoilers, they wouldn't need them.
And once again another crucital third down conversion arrives. With 1:08 remaining in the game on third and eight, Andy Dalton throws a prayer to A.J. Green running a vertical down the middle of the field. As he does every time, Green jumps over everyone and cuts towards the right sidelines before he's pushed out of bounds two yards short of the goalline. Benson ran the football three times in obvious clock-killing runs before Mike Nugent converts the game-winning 26-yard field goal.
Cincinnati heads to Pittsburgh next week with a 7-4 record after winning 23-20 in a critical game for the Bengals as the team continues solidifying the argument that they belong in the 2011 NFL playoffs.
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Who Dey!
Another close but great win for the "Blacked Out Ballers!
by MCSubtext on Nov 27, 2011 4:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You have to also think they were looking forward towards PIT.
Not saying that this was a trap game instead of a sloppy one. But I’m sure the team was looking forward at least a little.
I gotta disagree with you
This was a division game against a tough opponent who always plays hard against the Bengals. This is a coaching staff that always preaches one game at a time. They played uneven and the offensive line played their worst game of the year. No evidence they were thinking about Pittsburgh at all. This was not their best game and they were fortunate to pull it out.
by Who dey in LA on Nov 27, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yea
All we heard about all week was how mad the team was and how they were going to take it out on the Browns.
Once again we looked like the best team in the AFC in the second half. We held the Browns to 3 points in the second half and we were constantly getting pressure. On offense we were hitting different receivers for big gains while gaining nice chunks of yardage on the ground. We need our first effort like that for 60 min. against the Steelers this coming week. If we get a performance for 60 min we have a good chance to beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh.
looking forward to pit next week in pitt
we give em hell there.
" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."
Had to follow this one on Game Center.
And that last AJ Green pass was recorded as a NEGATIVE 51 yard pass. I nearly crapped myself.
Here we come Pitt!
so happy they finally used greshem right.
Defense was crap 1st half then made the changes and stepped up.
by JCompton41 on Nov 27, 2011 4:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't understand why it takes half time adjustments EVERY game though
Also, that’s how I(and a lot of others) have been calling for them to use Gresham. Motion him to the outside where he’s one on one and has a mismatch of either size, speed, or both.
me too
Use him like the pats. Greshem is like hernandez and gronkowski rolled into one player, use him like it.
by JCompton41 on Nov 27, 2011 9:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Smith and Livings played terribly.........
penalties and getting beaten like a drum all game.
by The Van Buren Boys on Nov 27, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Smith is a city planner,
and Dalton is a city, and Jabal Sheard is Godzilla.
"I thought, 'Ball, please get down and into my hands.'"
-AJ Green
second half was better
by diehard bengals fan 20 on Nov 27, 2011 5:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
anyone hear anything about pat sims yet?
" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."
WOW Defense seem to lay an egg today in the 1st half, but showed up in the 2nd half, Need To start faster on D and not lay and egg next time
but its a work in progress 7-4 i take that
Lets Go Bengals Who Dey
and comon Chiefs beat those steelers
Really they gave up 10 points and got screwed with a short field after that fumble.
Not that that’s a good excuse, but I’ll cut them some slack for that. They still held Cleveland to 274 yards of offense.
or.........
AJ+Red+Ced-Smith-Livings=Close Win
Math has never been my strong suit.
Dust get to watch
But followed on twitter and game center. From what I gathered the defense played pretty poorly. Did they?
Yes I'm a Bengals fan
by Helmsy on Nov 27, 2011 4:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
*didnt not dust.
Damn auto correct
Yes I'm a Bengals fan
by Helmsy on Nov 27, 2011 5:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
RE:
Played terribly in the first half. Much better in the second. But that’s kind of what I said in the above posting. :)
Managing Editor at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.
by Josh Kirkendall on Nov 27, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Well I just skimmed before I posted. Lol
But I read it now. Seems like a solid win.
Yes I'm a Bengals fan
by Helmsy on Nov 27, 2011 5:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Houston
Leinart hurt his throwing shoulder. Good for us.
Broken collarbone.
Done for the season, according to NFL Network.
Managing Editor at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.
by Josh Kirkendall on Nov 27, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Geno Atkins > Ndamukong Suh?
Thought about making a fanpost for this, but it’s a pretty simple question. To me, Atkins and Suh are the two best 4-3 DT’s in the game, with only Ngata and BJ Raji challenging them for the top spot as nose tackles. Clearly, Suh has the most freakish size and strength of any of those guys. But Atkins is by far the smallest, and yet he has more sacks. More tackles for a loss. More TACKLES. He does it all with sheer talent and not overwhelming size. Not to mention he does it on maybe 2/3 the number of snaps with our rotation being what it is. And he does it for a fraction of the cost (for now). It would be insulting if he didn’t make the Pro Bowl this year. And to top it all off, you don’t have to deal with the whole sideshow that you do with Suh.
I’m not sure if I’m QUITE ready to call him the best in the game yet, but he coudl be there by the end of this year. 5th round pick…crazy.
I agree with you there.
Atkins quietly gets the job done, as opposed to Suh who starts taking cheap shots whenever he loses a trench fight as was proven in the game against GB on Thursday. Dalton and Green were the heroes in this game for sure but honorable mention should go to Benson who as usual got the job done like he always does against the Browns. Atkins filled the void that Dunlap left in today’s game. I also am very happy with the Kelly Jennings played on that final pass where he nearly had a pick. About time he made a play for our secondary. The only DB I wasn’t impressed with today was Clements who I think they were targeting a lot.
Clements had a nice comeback
Knocking down that big pass to force Dawson into a long FG try at the end. But those two plays he gave up in the opening drive were inexcusable. Beyond embarrassing. He just fell down turning his hips around. That’s what CB’s do…he’s spent the last 15+ years of his life learning how to run and turn his hips. He looked like he’d never done it before once.
Nelson was also up and down. The miscommunication that allowed Cleveland’s last TD was just horrible. I don’t even know what he was thinking on that play. But his INT was a pretty great play. Yeah it was a horribly thrown ball, but he came a LONG way to get it. When that happened the first thought that came into my mind was “Ed Reed.” Not that he’s nearly that good, but he does seem to just appear all over the field at opportune times.
I forgot to mention...
Gresham. Good bounce-back game for him after being robbed of a score last week against Baltimore. They’re finally getting out of their rut of using him like Reggie Kelly and utilizing his Antonio-Gates like potential.
Great call
But he’s making plays outside of being on the edge of the OL.
Using great physical ability – in line with Green, for me.
Can someone call Rodney Holman?
He also had a couple really good blocks in the running game
He’s the complete package in a way I don’t even think Gates or Gronkowski are. It’s going to be hard to step out of Gronkowski’s shadow, but I’d rather have Gresham for our scheme.
Well I'm not ready to call him the best but he's clearly performing at a high level
He needs to get a little more consistent against the run and he’ll be one of the top DT’s in the league. He should make the Pro Bowl this year, IMO.
It’s going to be great watching Atkins, Dunlap, MJ and company for the next few years assuming they are all remain on this team. Hopefully Moch can develop as a Pass Rusher from the LB position as we aren’t getting pressure often when we do blitz our LB’s.
Adam Jones had a great game and if we can get better overall play out of the DB’s then that will lead to even more sacks since the QB will hold on to the ball even longer. This defense and the entire team has so much potential its ridiculous!
I'll take the win..........
but we looked horrible. Watched entire game, AJ Green was the difference in this game. Both sides of the ball didn’t show up in the first half…….again. For the Pittspuke game next week, can we simulate a half of football prior to the start of the game? We come out week in and week out and spot the other team 2 scores, it never fails. I’m really glad we won, but we can’t play like that again and expect to make the playoffs. Also, thank goodness for Greg Little, he should get the game ball for us. He had at least 6 drops on crucial plays.
by The Van Buren Boys on Nov 27, 2011 5:05 PM EST reply actions
+1,000,000
Little was horrible.
by pray4gm11 on Nov 27, 2011 5:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cleveland could have been up by 21 at the half
Those drops were insane. I’m glad I’m not a Browns fan (for a lot of reasons).
I still think something was going on with Andre Smith in the first half. He wasn’t just getting beat, he was practically non-existent. I thought he was hurt, but he came back and played very strong in the 2nd half. The whole line did. I wonder if there was an issue with scheme – it looked like we were missing assignments – the one play where the safety blew up the handoff to BScott Cochart didn’t even seem to see him on the line when he was clearly blitzing. Instead he went straight to the second level to take on a LB. Anyway, good adjustments at the half (as per usual…how weird is THAT to say?)
A couple...
Crocker apparently separated his shoulder early in the game and actually used his fist to pop it back in so Mays came in for him briefly.
Yeah Crocker got hurt in 2nd half
Returned later nothing serious though (:
by pray4gm11 on Nov 27, 2011 5:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Wouldn't want to be without Crocker...
He says without a hint of sarcasm………..
B. Scott
Game wasn’t carried here so I just followed on Game Centre, but it seemed that Scott was a non-factor today. Was he alternating with Benson or did they get away from that?
I'm happy they didn't use Scott today...
just because Benson was running well and Scott the first couple times he got in went backwards for losses of 5 which wasn’t his fault but still Benson was more efficient so he got the majority of the carries. Scott did play well when we needed him too later in the game though. But Benson needs to have more games like this going forward for us to be more successful.
Did Scott always run it to the right today?
Every time he ran it, there seemed to be a gap between Bobbie and Smith.
It looked like it
I didn’t have the audio luxury (just dem video recollections which I can’t take back)
Scott had a couple good runs but
The first few runs Scott had he was met at the same time he got the ball. In fact it was a miracle he didn’t fumble the ball as he didn’t even have the ball completely before getting a big hit on them.
So many questions......
Sorry guys, one more question. How were Simpson/Caldwell with the drops today?
Neither of them dropped a pass as far as I know...
but Simpson did get dinged up in the first half so he only had a couple catches today. Caldwell was efficient when he was thrown to but wasn’t as involved as he was last week.
Not good
Simpson didn’t have a good game. One big 3rd down catch, but a couple times he ran the wrong route (once I’m pretty sure blowing up what could have been a big play for AJ) and he had a big drop on a really easy slant play that would have given us a first down in one of those blown 4th quarter drives. Caldwell was kind of a non-factor, though he did have an amazing block on Benson’s big run in the 1st.
If there's one thing this game tells us...
it’s that Gresham should always be the guy we look for on third down. Him and Leonard, although Leonard didn’t have any catches today.
I'm still scratching my head on that one long pass to Baby Hawk on 3rd down
Dalton only missed the throw by about a foot, and Hawk had a step, but I don’t know why you send the shortest guy on your team out on that route. Especially when you have Gresham and AJ.
I agree I was iffy about that call...
they need to utilize Hawkins to his strengths which are his ability to run after the catch. The guy gave us a long third-down conversion in the first quarter on a catch-and-run play where they utilized his speed. He’s essentially our bubble-screen threat because of his ability to hide behind blockers and his speed. Using him on a jump-ball route like AJ Green is ill-advised in my opinion.
That slant to Simpson was well defended. The defenders hand was between Simpsons hand
because the dall was thrown a bit too close ho his body. If the ball was a foot further out in fron of him it was likely a catch.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Sure looked like it hit Simpson right in the numbers to me
He was turning his head and didn’t watch it in. The CB was right on him, but it should have been an easy catch for about 8 yards.
The defenders hand was in front and pushed the ball out.
If this was the play you are referring to. I saw it on a 50" high def.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
I think we're talking about different plays.
The one I’m talking about was on 1st or 2nd down in one of our 3-and-outs in the 4th. 3-step drop, Simpson on a quick slant from the left, was right in front of Hagg I think. Ball hit him right in the chest.
Not 100% sure until I rewatch the game but I believe John is
talking about the one earlier in the game?
Dalton continues to amaze
His cool under fire and the veteran decisions he makes are amazing for a 1st year QB. He was under pressure the entire game and always made smart decisions unlike McCoy who threw at least three passes into coverage, one resulting in an easy pick, where Dalton had no problem throwing it out of bounds if nothing was there. He reminds me so much of Greg Cook. Let’s hope Dalton has a longer career.
Yes I would say there is an upside as Dalton doesn't seem to be leveling off in his improvement.
I don’t know about massive but I think the upside is pretty obvious.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
I'm starting to see the rookie in him a bit more
Same with AJ and Jay Gruden – still some miscommunications. But once those get ironed out, I don’t see any lack of upside talent-wise. And mentally, he could be as smart as they come. When all those guys are firmly on the same page, it’s going to be deadly.
The bottom line when you talk about an NFL QB is
Can you win a Super Bowl with that QB? The bottom line is that Dalton has enough talent to win a Super Bowl.
I also believe he does have upside. He will only get better, IMO. He is a gym rat and an intelligent player that studies the game. He has the kind of upside that he could have seasons with 30 TD’s and only 10 INT’s.
With another WR, a RB, and an improved OL he is easily good enough to win a Super Bowl for Cincy. That’s really all that matters.
From what I understand Rey didn't ahve the best of games
Still missing the gaps?
PS: Apparently I lied as I do have more questions.
He had a couple of good hits on Hillis...
but he needs to stop missing tackles in the open field. I might be exaggerating but I feel like we’re the only defense in the NFL that I’ve seen that misses tackles on a regular basis on screens and what-not. It has to stop.
Rey had a good game
The whole defense was having trouble when they ran Hillis up the gut…he’s just so strong. But when they started trying to get him outside, Rey made some nice plays for losses. He was flying around the field.
Remember this is his first year in the league at MLB
He’s still getting his head around being the defensive signal caller. He shows flashes of being an elite player. I think when he gets the mental side down and can start just PLAYING at his natural position, he’ll show the leap you’re talking about. It might take another year or two, though. I think the last thing Marvin wants to do is look for another MLB. He’s been trying to get an anchor there forever. If he can get it in a young guy with raw talent like Rey who he can keep around for a long time, he’ll jump on it rather than take a stab at yet another new face.
I'll side with eric here.
I think Rey missed a few tackles but so did Howard, Lawson, Peko, Crocker and almost the entire rest of the defense save a few players. Do we always talk about replacing them? For whatever reason there seems that there are times when Rey is held to a higher standard then other players.
In the second half Rey had some huge plays were he brough Hillis down by himself for a loss when the rest of the team seemed to struggle to stop him after Hillis dragged 2 or more of them for 3 yards or more.
I would still take Rey in the second round. He’s a solid NFL starter with a TON of upside. He may never realize that upside but he will atleast be a solid NFL starter and you don’t always get that in the second round.
This, with the exception of Sim's injury, was about ideal
With Hillis back and a pretty decent D the Browns showed today that it is entirely possible that the Browns can give Pittsburgh and Baltimore a loss especially if the Ravens fall back on the road like they have a few times. The Browns are a better team than their record indicates. They just may help us out in the division. Their only hopes this season are to play spoiler and that is what they almost did today.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
I am not sure either, but before today I automatcallly chalked up
two losses against the Steelers and Ravens. I think they can with a little luck maybe possibly pull a win out at home.
I also guess we won’t see Leinert with the Texans. If their #3 couldn’t beat out Leinert he can’t be very good.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
I agree
To put it simply, before today I would be surprised if the Browns beat either the Steelers or Ravens. After today if the Browns pulled off an upset of the Steelers or Ravens I wouldn’t be surprised.
I bet this WIN won't be on nfl replay....
Yes I'm a Bengals fan
by Helmsy on Nov 27, 2011 5:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Smith really needs to work on defending the inside move. He had a bad game today
LIvings also showed why he is a reasonable backup a best. We need to draft a G in the top section of the draft. He was ridiculous in his ineffectiveness in pass protection today. The Jets and Titans wins were a bummer.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Not worried so much about the Titans
We have the tie-breaker. The Jets are going to give me fits the rest of the season. I swear if it comes down to needing them to lose in week 17 I’m going to pull my hair out. If we both end up with 10 wins, they go.
What is everyone's opinion on Jennings today?
I felt like he was invisible out there for most of the game but he did have that nicely defended pass at the end of the game against Cribbs which sealed the deal for us.
I watched the entire game. Hawkins made a couple of LBs and DBs look stupid
on a crucial 3rd and 20 or so.
I was okay with both Simpson and Caldwell’s play. The Oline, especially Smith and Livings were a big problem.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
I hope someone asks Marvin about Andre Smith
I still think he was hurt. He hasn’t played that badly all year and he was facing MUCH less talented rushers today. Something was just off.
Gotta stop drafting guys with the last name "Smith"
It's the same, only different
by CanadaBengal on Nov 27, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Not worried about Smith
He’s played well all year against some very good DE’s. One bad game doesn’t worry me. Livings on the other hand has been the weakest link all season. He’s OK in run blocking, but he must have a relatively weak upper body because on pass blocking, he cannot contain the DT above the waist. Also, he continues to make about two false starts per game. Need to draft a good lineman next year and put Livings on the 2nd string.
by Who dey in LA on Nov 27, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Livings has been the weakest link for 3+ years
It’s mystifying. Evan Mathis was twice as good and he sat on the bench for 3 years before we finally let him walk. Now Boling, who started in the beginning of the year, can’t even make the gameday roster? I’m not a fan of Paul Alexander.
Livings gets on my nerves...
because he false starts and holds all the time and doesn’t learn from his mistakes. He had an extremely inconvenient false start today in the red zone which cost us a TD although the field goal ended up winning it for us. On the bright side, I’ve been watching the Eagles a lot lately where they’re starting Evan Mathis at left guard and he doesn’t look much better than Livings as a starter right now as he’s also having penalty problems.
If I hear "false start, #62" too many more times this year
I’m gonna need to new monitor.
by Who dey in LA on Nov 27, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Hoping for the Miracle on 34th Street (football division) tonight in KC
It's the same, only different
I'd rather the Steelers come in with a cocky attitude after a win...
next week rather than a focused and angry attitude after a loss like they did against us after they lost to Baltimore the week before.
Good point
It's the same, only different
by CanadaBengal on Nov 27, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
If they lose tonight...
I’d say the chances of us beating them next week in Heinz are very slim as they will be foaming at the mouth angry. But in most cases yes I would rather see them lose.
id rather them lose this week and then we beat them the next week
we would pretty much finish ahead of the steelers in the division if we can do that some how
AMAS
+1 for the Christmas reference
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Never hope for a Steelers' win
Let ’em be angry. Still one more game in the loss column for them.
I'm not hoping for a Steelers' win...
I’m just worried about them coming out so angry next week about losing to the Chiefs that they might start head-hunting our key players like Dalton and Green which they do more than enough of anyway.
i just want to say again
aj green is truly special. he has that ability to get under balls and position himself to make he catch. he also has incredible hands and makes the catch. he shows up big at key times in games with weekly regularity. i think dalton is impressive. and qb is the hardest and most important position, but….aj green is the more singular player by far.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 27, 2011 6:02 PM EST reply actions
If any of our players go to the Pro Bowl this year...
I’d say Green and Nugent both have the best shot at going to Hawaii. Dalton while he has been fantastic has also turned the ball over a lot and there’s too many QBs in the AFC with much better numbers.
I think Atkins has a shot.
He’s starting to get a lot of national attention, and his numbers are piling up. 6.5 sacks, could easily be double digit by the end of the year. That’s crazy for a DT.
True...
Dunlap could be a possiblity as well if he stays healthy and explodes even more to close out the season.
Dunlap's numbers aren't very impressive
“Pressures” don’t get you to the Pro Bowl. He’s probably only going to end up with 7-9 sacks and that’s not good enough for a DE.
I'm hoping he doesn't turn into a flash in the pan type of player...
like Odom was. He looks like a young Julius Peppers right now.
Nah
You can tell how good he is by watching him. He’s been a nanosecond away from having at least another 10 sacks already this year. Next year he’ll be getting even more snaps, he’ll have even more experience, and I think he’ll put up ridiculous numbers – in part because of Atkins.
The question I have now...
is how long do we keep Geathers around as he has stepped up as a pass-rusher in Dunlap’s absence and actually has been better at getting to the QB and getting the sack. Right now Geathers has been one of our better run-support guys but he also keeps Dunlap off the field a lot. This is a good problem to have mind you, it shows how deep we are at D-line.
I don't think we re-sign Geathers
He’s way too expensive for what he does in our defense. I know he had a sack today, but I really feel like he’s turning it on because it’s his contract year. You pay DE’s big time money to get sacks, he generally doesn’t get sacks. Unless he’s willing to take a big pay cut, which he won’t be, we should let him go and just beef up Dunlap’s playing time. We’ll draft a DE at some point who can help with depth.
I think we should re-sign him...
because I don’t want them to repeat the same mistake they made with Justin Smith years ago with Geathers. Geathers is a good player who does good things for our defense he just hasn’t delivered the production we thought he should have by now. But Michael Johnson, as good as he is on passing downs and at knocking down passes, is not very good against the run and that’s where Geathers can be useful. But if he demands too much then yeah we should let him walk, it would just hurt the depth we have on D-line. I think he’ll stick around though I mean we thought Rucker wouldn’t be with us this season and he’s still here.
I think this whole he will play better because it is a contract year thing
is way overblown. Consistent good play is what gets big contracts. I think he is just getting more rest with our rotation and Geno and the others are getting attention. I would like us to keep all eight DL guys for next year. I am quite pleased with what we have there. CB, S, G and maybe a RB are our needs and if we can keep these guys here we can get them in the draft with the first five picks in the 1st three rounds.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
If we land Michael Bush...
in the offseason which I think should be a priority then RB is one less thing we need to worry about in the draft. S we’ll learn more about what our needs are there once Mays starts getting more playing time as I think his number of minutes might increase in the coming weeks with Crocker dinged up.
I wonder at this point...
If you’re going to go after Michael Bush, why not go after Matt Forte? Both are going to cost you a ton of money. If you don’t think the guy’s there in the draft for you (which I still think should be our priority) then go after the better back. But still, if we can draft a guy and bring him up alongside Dalton and Green, keep all three’s salaries low for 2-3 more years, we could have something really special for a decade. A free agent RB is probably going to give you a 2-3 year window before you start running into cap problems and declining play.
Forte...
is who I would want more out of the two but he’s not likely to leave Chicago, even if he isn’t happy with his contract situation there. I think they’re very likely to franchise tag him and Bush I think will want to leave Oakland to become more of a feature back elsewhere as opposed to playing second-fiddle to McFadden all the time. If we give him the right deal I’m sure he would love to come here. Let’s just hope Carson isn’t telling him horror stories about us right now. Hillis could also be an option after this season as could Benson for at least another year if we want to wait for Richardson to come out the following year.
Roethlisberger has a broken thumb I think...
so they could be very run-heavy tonight. But he’s expected to play.
something I'm thankful for (and dalton should be too)
AJ Green
by goffchile on Nov 27, 2011 6:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hopefully...
we can snatch him up this offseason now that Richardson is out of the question. I would love for him to become our new feature back he’s a bruiser. I’m playing against him in fantasy today though so I don’t want him to do well today.
Bush Trade
Maybe we could get Bush for Tubby Smith, Whiff Livings and Run Backwards Tate.
It's the same, only different
hey they traded us a 1st n 2nd for Carson
who knows lol
by Bengals NFL Champs on Nov 27, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
I hear Al Davis is still making the decisions from the Great Beyond
It's the same, only different
by CanadaBengal on Nov 27, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
I also hear that their fans are laboring under the delusion...
that Palmer is going to win them a Super Bowl this year.
Carson (so far today) 17/227 with 1 pick........winning (thx Charlie)
It's the same, only different
by CanadaBengal on Nov 27, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Make that 17/31.....typos
It's the same, only different
by CanadaBengal on Nov 27, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
While playing a Chicago team without Cutler.
With Bresnahan coaching that defense they have no shot at going far in the playoffs.
Green Acres Hanie has thrown 3 picks
It's the same, only different
by CanadaBengal on Nov 27, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Smith I'd like to keep around...
because if we show him the door we might be stuck with Dennis Roland starting. Let’s wait until Bush is a free agent and then start courting him lol
carson is playing pretty well
seems to have quicker feet, better decision-making, better accuracy. i think he was sand-baggin us last year but who cares at this point
by Bengals NFL Champs on Nov 27, 2011 6:48 PM EST reply actions
We have Dalton...
I’m happy to see him have success over there mainly because his successor is doing so well for us right now. I do think AJ Green would have had even better numbers with Palmer throwing to him though because of Palmer’s deadly deep ball but who knows. Palmer could have played for us this season but chose not to and we’re better off for it, as is he.
agree
Don’t want to see him fail but glad he played or pouted his way out. I really think he put it in cruise control, though, because he wanted out and that makes me think less of him.
by Bengals NFL Champs on Nov 27, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
carson throws a nice deep ball
that is his best skill.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 27, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Tebow
Looks like he might do it again. For the love of God, how??
Goodbye SD, goodbye Norm
It's the same, only different
Stick a fork in Rivers.
those unis are the best in football, though, IMHO lol
by Bengals NFL Champs on Nov 27, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
or Norv (Norm is his brother)
It's the same, only different
Grey Cup
For all my American brethren who are hanging on the edge of their seats, B.C. is leading Winnipeg 10-0
It's the same, only different
its on channel 25 for anyone in cincy wanting to see it
" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."
how 'bout Houston winning
with the equipment mgr. at QB
by Bengals NFL Champs on Nov 27, 2011 7:15 PM EST reply actions
Texans are down to their 3rd string QB
We have to take advantage of that in Week 14. 10-6 is a strong possibility and a wild card berth!!!
We Believe!!!
I think the odds of the Texans giving someone like...
David Garrard or even Old Man Favre a call just went up.
Mike Nugent
Is there anyone out there that is missing Shayne Graham right now. Mike Nugent has been nearly perfect since he has put on a Bengal uniform. Love him. This is another free agent aquisition that Mike Brown does not get any credit for, but should.
Agreed
He’s as automatic as Suh stompin’ on someone’s cranium
It's the same, only different
by CanadaBengal on Nov 27, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I had completely forgotten about Shayne Graham...
until I saw him kicking for the Dolphins this past Thursday. Let’s just say I like our current ginger player a little more. But I liked the Nugent signing as soon as it happened despite the fact that he didn’t have an impressive resume coming in. He’s a high-quality kicker who actually wanted to play her and I like that.
I had completely forgotten about Shayne Graham...
until I saw him this past Thursday kicking for the Dolphins. Let’s just say I like our current ginger player more. But I liked the Nugent signing as soon as it happened despite the fact that he didn’t have an impressive resume coming in. He’s a high-quality kicker who actually wants to play here and that is my number one reason why I like him.
the first line should be
If Sunday “demonstrated” not “dictated.”
Sunday did not take actions or make prescriptions, but we can take advice from it.
But good post, good points.
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