Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Veterans Share Their Favorite Sports Memories

Commentary: Talking About The NFL Draft Doesn't Make You A Cynical Fan

Sports talk host Lance McAlister with 700 WLW went on the offensive Wednesday against Bengals fans, instigated by an email he received from a listener that requested a segment, if not a show, featuring the NFL Draft already. During his show on 700 WLW on Wednesday night, Lance admits confusion, wondering why some Bengals fans are already thinking about the NFL Draft. You can have a listen here, but here's a brief transcript that opened the show.

"And realize specifically for the Bengals: 5-2, developing feel good stories, kind of almost in some circles a developing media darling, winners of four straight, perfect in the month of October, the first time since (1975). The last time they were perfect in October, the Big Red Machine had just captured the 1975 World Series.

"Yet, I'm left confused. Because I hear, I read and I see so much that is not about now. Here. This. The moment. John Thornton and I were joking last week, how much Carson conversation even a week after the trade compared to the actual team. I will grant you this, for those it has kind of become a running joke the number of people who now want to figure out what to do with the draft picks. I get that it's November and traditionally, the start of November we probably start thinking draft. It's like a conditioned response."

Lance continues:

"...for as many who are jumping into the future, there are just as many who seemingly enjoy wallowing in the past. It's one of the most fascinating dynamics in this city when it comes to fans."

Star-divide

Sounds ridiculous, right? Bengals fans looking forward to the NFL draft, wallowing about the past, not accepting the current reality that the Cincinnati Bengals are 5-2 with a quarterback that just won the NFL's offensive rookie of the month for the month of October, where the Cincinnati Bengals went an undefeated 4-0, sounds ludicrous.

Let me preface this by saying I love Lance, Mo Egger and all of the local talk radio talent.

But there's a third option that's not being established or acknowledged, and maybe that's because the general Bengals fan being discussed isn't necessarily the majority. Bengals fans are fully capable of living in the moment, talking about the 5-2 Cincinnati Bengals. Read the comments within most of the posts on this very site; there's overwhelming excitement and perspective. Living in the moment is what most of us have been doing, as we have every year since this site was established in 2006. Are the readers and those that comment on this site the general Bengals fan? Maybe. Maybe not.

Now you compound that with news two weeks ago that the Bengals traded Carson Palmer, one of the most tiring discussions for months, for a first round pick in 2012 and a second round pick in 2013 and now you have that much more excitement about this team's future. Additionally there's such a foundation of talented players, that next year's draft could make this team even better. It's an exciting prospect that fans might spend 15 minutes out of a 1,440-minute day. During Sundays every Bengals fan lives in the moment. Every Monday after the game and Friday and Saturday before the next game, fans are in the moment. Tuesday and Wednesday, fans are in the moment. Then perhaps Bengals fans gather around the water cooler for 15-20 minutes Thursday afternoon and brainstorm ideas with what the Bengals can address with their newly acquired draft picks.

Now there are those that Lance says enjoys "wallowing in the past" and for those, he's right. Mike Brown inevitably surfaces in most discussions I have with people personally. Efforts to just say, it's time to just let go, often go unheeded and even instigate them into unapproachable levels where you question whether or not you want to talk about Bengals football at all with them. Mike Brown is evil. Been Cincinnati's greatest comic book villain since 1991. We get it.

If you want to talk about the NFL draft, fine. Talk about the draft. There's six days between games and roughly 8-12 hours within a day that you're awake that you're able to sit back and enjoy the moment with this incredible Cincinnati Bengals squad. If for a small chunk within the week you want to visualize the prospects of improving this football team even more, why not?

Comment 34 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

I don't understand the obsession with talking about the draft.

The reason being, people will spend all year talking about the draft (which they have no control over) then the draft will happen and immediatly start looking to the next draft. It’s like a never ending cycle of drafts. Without an actual SEASON the draft is meaningless. Not to mention the NFL draft is such a crap shoot anyway. I can’t wait for Andrew Luck to follow in Ryan Leaf’s footsteps. You simply never know what you’ll get in a draft, whether it be Akili Smith in round 1 or Tom Brady in round 7. I just don’t get the point of placing so much emphasis on it.

by peko'sponytail on Nov 3, 2011 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Draft is great and we get 3 preimer picks to improve are team in the first 2 rounds..

thats why we are excited not overlooking the season enjoying the hell out of that…

But 2 1st rounders mack mock drafting fun…

now it is a little to early to try and figure out where those picks will be and then trusting the Brain trust of experts who are almost always wrong about which players should fall to what spots and which of those is the biggest need/value for the slot of the pick…

theres a lot that goes into it… and football is only on on sundays.

by Bengalsfan024 on Nov 3, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love my Bengals and love the current season they have

But every year I also watch a lot of College Football and I love to watch prospects. I also watch a lot of film on a lot of the prospects.

I love the draft and since I love the Bengals it makes sense to think about who the Bengals will draft much more then who the Ravens are going to draft.

Doesn’t have anything to do with the present. In fact, if anything I’m just that much more excited about the draft over the next 2 years because we have a great chance to become a consistent playoff team if we use our picks wisely.

by C1ncy4Life on Nov 3, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like talking about needs at this point, definitely not players, that's kind of silly.

But hey, why not get excited? This team has a bundle of picks next year, hopefully they move some of the later round picks for another 3rd or 4th. Might as well load up.

Change gone come mane! Trust me! Cause i Bleed tigerblood!--Jerome Simpson

by Grizzlyfox on Nov 3, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

+ 1

This draft is much deeper than last year quality players will be there in 3rd and 4th

by messjunk on Nov 3, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the thing is College Football is going on now also

So it also makes sense to think and talk, about the players in the positions of need. Of course things will probably change 3-4 times before the draft, but it’s always nice when you’ve already seen a player play multiple games in college. Just helps you know what to expect and lets you know if you had a good draft compared to other teams if you know more about hte player.

by C1ncy4Life on Nov 3, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Bengals are smart

They will trade those 2 first round picks to Chicago for Matt Forte and then sign him to a 6 yr monster deal.

by Diesel2405 on Nov 3, 2011 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

whoa!

I would not trade 2 first round picks for Matt Forte (or any other running back for that matter)! That position is known for steep drop offs! I’d be perfectly fine letting Benson go next season and having a committee of RBs.

by BlitzAway on Nov 3, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE:

I wouldn’t even use one to draft someone in the first. But that’s me.

Managing Editor at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.

by Josh Kirkendall on Nov 3, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with you.

He would have to be a once in a decade talent. IMO that’s not Richardson.

by Rockhound-11 on Nov 3, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats crazy talk.

Forte is an absolute beast. He hasn’t only been good for 1 year either it has been a couple years now. He is exactly what all you guys been wanting in a running back. 3 down back who can run and catch out of the backfield and is a good pass blocker as well. If we got Forte whoa buddy would this offense be scary good.

by Diesel2405 on Nov 3, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

we can get the same from 2nd round

Chris Polk Washington
if you haven’ seen him play do so you’ll be impressed
t

by messjunk on Nov 3, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really like C. Polk

And would strongly consider drafting him in 2nd round. He and Lamar Miller from the U are the draft’s best WCO style backs. Polk, though, can also lug it 20-25 times a game on a consistent basis.

Oh, and by the way, trade two first round picks for Forte??? That’s just nonsensical. I like Forte and he’s really, really good, but trading TWO first round picks for him is absurd.

by The_Black_Stripes on Nov 3, 2011 6:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Miller is moving up boards quickly

Todd McShay lists him as the 14th overall prospect now.

I know that’s high, but I’ve seen other places list him in the top 30 or so.

If he keeps moving up, we would have to move up in the second to get him, if he’s not taken by someone in the first :(

Still, I like Polk and he is a good player.

by C1ncy4Life on Nov 3, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best WCO running back

in the NFL right now. BUT, two first round picks!! I bet you would have been willing to make the same trade for Chris Johnson before this season. It would be too big of a gamble in my opinion.

by Rockhound-11 on Nov 3, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, what's crazy talk...

…is thinking ANY RB is worth giving up 2 first rounders when you have glaring needs in the secondary and offensive line.

by dqniel on Nov 3, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forte is a beast

But he is going to command top tier money, and if recent history proves anything, its that RBs are not worth putting down big dollars or trading crazy amounts of draft picks.

Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge

by Derftron on Nov 3, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forte is a beast

and so is Chris Johnson. Man got paid, and now he’s really struggling. DON’T PAY RUNNING BACKS THAT MUCH MONEY!!!!

Andy Dalton: An American Hero

by Pardon_My_French on Nov 3, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

CJ-2000 is an idiot and overrrated

Forte proves it everyday he is a beast. Maybe we can trade 1 first round pick and Benson to the Bears

by Diesel2405 on Nov 4, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

No way

We can get someone just as good and younger for less

by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 3, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

And not to mention we have other needs where those picks are better spent

OL/CB… Richardson is one thing but if not we need those picks elsewhere

by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 3, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two first round draft picks

What the Bengals are doing right now is outstanding. 5-2 record with a shot at the playoffs with a rookie quarterback and a team no one gave a chance. You couldn’t write a better script… But as fans I see nothing wrong with looking forward to the future… Our daily lives are busy, stressfull and hectic. Two first round draft picks gives us hope, a sense of feeling of possible perfection and a conversation that dosen’t go dull… Who-Dey

by asnitro25 on Nov 3, 2011 4:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

WHO-DEY!!!!!!!

WOW THIS FEELS GOOD!! I’ve been a die hard since 79 and for some reason I’m more pumped up now than ever.

by Rockhound-11 on Nov 3, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since we're talking about the draft...Does anybody else get the feeling that they won't be drafting a lineman in the first?

I mean, they just extended two guys on the line and will probably try to resign Andre Smith as well. It’s not a stretch to say they aren’t going to dump first round kind of money on another lineman.

by Paul Cannon on Nov 3, 2011 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

1st round money

Just isn’t that much with the new cba, it’s the best way to get your expensive position players now, which also gives me a good feeling that Richardson just might fall out of top ten, probably right around we’ll be picking with Oaklands 1st. ;)

by joeb698 on Nov 3, 2011 6:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1

The new CBA may make the draft a lot different this year. It’s actually a theory I have. Since teams aren’t paying 1st round rookies money like elite players at that position, we may see more positions drafted in the first that aren’t traditionally drafted in the first.

I doubt it will be anything major though. There has already been a recent trend where more Guards/Centers have been taken in round 1 over the last few years, I think that trend continues with the new CBA.

As far as the Bengals it would be a HUGE mistake if they overlooked the offensive line and specifically Guard(more specifically David DeCastro).

by C1ncy4Life on Nov 3, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

I think, especially the way Cam and Andy along with even ponder and gabbert have played, and with how little you have to pay rookies now we’ll see a lot of traditionally expensive positions taken early, RB just isn’t viewed the way it used to be, a lot of 3rd rounders a beyond have done well and teams have noticed

by joeb698 on Nov 3, 2011 7:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Why WOULDN"T a Bengals fan

be twice as interested as any other fan? But it is still too early to speculate IMO unless it’s just for fun. Injuries could still have a big say in who gets drafted when.

by keithster on Nov 4, 2011 1:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about the Cincinnati Bengals.

Editor-In Chief

Cj_small Josh Kirkendall

Editor/Managing Editor

Rudiblanket_small Anthony Cosenza

5255_133614603784_666578784_2414703_1976100_n_small Jason Garrison

Authors

Photo_3_small BeerRun

010511170110_small Joe Goodberry

40297_422933299865_509514865_4658259_6466915_n_small Ryan Harper

Small Brennen Warner

Sb_nation_small Jack Cassidy

580551_10150822857707018_613867017_11694254_1239726425_n_small Nick_Crago

Img_0783_small Mike Fightmaster

Moderators

Nfl palewook

680764146_0eac16fabd_small 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME

Tawky_tawny_small UpStateMike

Joeb698_86e260_small joeb69

Bengals_stamp_by_jamaal10_small Doc Scratch