Cincinnati Bengals Offensive Snap Count Against the Cleveland Browns

by Josh Kirkendall on Nov 30, 2011 9:00 AM EST in Analysis

CINCINNATI, OH - NOVEMBER 27: Cedric Benson #32 of the Cincinnati Bengals runs the ball upfield during the game against the Cleveland Browns at Paul Brown Stadium on November 27, 2011 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Bengals defeated the Browns 23-20. (Photo by John Grieshop/Getty Images)

The Cincinnati Bengals may have shown a few tendencies against the Cleveland Browns, based on this week's snap chart. Whenever Chris Pressley came into the game, the offense ran the football 83.3% of the time. When Dennis Roland came in during six-man offensive line fronts (as another tight end), the likelihood the Bengals ran the football increased to 88.9%. Though I suppose Chris Pressley and Dennis Roland aren't your ideal players in the passing game, teams would likely notice this tendency and become more adamant about stopping the run.

But we all know the truth. Jay Gruden is just baiting defensive coordinators by putting together a season-long resume that will result with single-man coverages in obvious run packages late in the season to get the team into the playoffs.

Running Backs	Total	Run	Routes	Run Block	Pass Block
Cedric Benson	40	21	13	2	4
Chris Pressley	18	0	3	15	0
Brian Leonard	15	1	8	0	6
Bernard Scott	11	4	4	0	3

Tight End	Total	Routes	Run Block	Pass Block
Jermaine Gresham	63	34	24	5
Colin Cochart	25	9	14	2
Dennis Roland	9	0	8	1

Wide Receivers	Total	Routes	Run Block
A.J. Green	62	39	23
Jerome Simpson	53	36	17
Andre Caldwell	37	28	9
Andrew Hawkins	7	5	2

Offensive Line	Total	Run Block	Pass Block
Kyle Cook	68	28	40
Nate Livings	68	28	40
Andrew Whitworth	68	28	40
Andre Smith	68	28	40
Bobbie Williams	68	28	40

(snap count account to Pro Football Focus)

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nice stats....interesting

Wow…I hope Gruden is reading this….come on……83.3% with Pressley…..wow that is terrible…….No wonder we can’t run it…..The non-fullback system does disguise the run better…One of the reasons teams are using a fullback less and less…

by ticalcaldwell on Nov 30, 2011 9:47 AM EST reply actions

This is something I pointed out a few weeks ago.

I noticed that when Pressley was in that there is a high % of runs called.

In Gruden’s defense the 1 or 2 passes with Pressley in make the Play Action that much more successful and likely will result in those 1 or 2 pass plays a game being for big chunks of yards. Although this makes it HARDER to run. Even with the extra OL in it’s making it harder to run since the advantage of the extra OL is negated by the fact the Defense knows it’s run around 90% of the time.

by C1ncy4Life on Nov 30, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions

Let him run it sometimes!

He’s got 3 receptions this season, but they never hand it off to him. For short yardage plays, if he’s getting good penetration, it might be nice to mix it up. Ced is not always getting it done (i.e. 4th and Goal vs. Cleveland)…

by LeapingLeonard on Nov 30, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions

Just got off the phone with Gruden

Told me the game plan this Sunday:

Be nice…we be nice until Dalton tells not to be nice…….

by ticalcaldwell on Nov 30, 2011 9:51 AM EST reply actions

Call me silly for my use of Brian Leonard as a FB in Madden

But I think a full back in these days should be a multiple threat player. Rushing, run-blocking, pass-blocking and receiving effectively. That is a versatile position. A player with such a skill set is rare, but adds multiple alternatives. Use it as a pure run-blocking turns the offense fairly predictable. Oddly enough, I believe Leonard does all that very well. Maybe the effective use of FBs relies much more on OCs than its own abilities. See the slotbacks in canadian football.

by FernandoRF on Nov 30, 2011 10:04 AM EST reply actions

I agree with you.

Except for one thing. Leonard does all those things very well, with the exception of lead blocking, which is the primary skill for a fullback. Madden Leonard probably does this quite well, and I could see that working a lot, but this isn’t Madden.
I don’t know, maybe he would be good enough for us to give him a shot, but I do know that they tried to turn him into a true FB in St. Louis, and it didn’t really work – it’s why he was traded to us.
Of course, that might be more to do with the fact they made him put on a bunch of weight rather than his lead blocking skills.
I don’t know, we should give it a go – having him as a receiving threat on first and second downs, while still threatening a run could give the offence a nice extra option.

by Aether on Nov 30, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions

ha comparing madden to real game situations lol

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by rudebengal18 on Nov 30, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions

I'm not comparing those things

I’m saying it works there and, in the real world, why it wouldn’t (think Madden as a blueprint)? I’m not asking Leonard to fly, to send d-linemen flying, shooting rockets at safeties or lead-block in a M1 Abrams. It’s about blocking, rushing and receiving (I’m supposing football players do those things). Why not put Chris Pressley to receive some throws? 83% is very high rate, and as I said, the rushing offense becomes predictable. I used Leonard as an example. Maurice Jones-Drew, Chris Johnson, Reggie Bush, Ray Rice, DeAngelo Williams are capable receivers (in the real world) and not so horrible blockers (except Bush). Dammit, is it possible they can’t develop their skills? At least enough to try something different to keep defenses somewhat honest.

And about Madden and the real world, the fourth down attempt on the goal line vs CLE. Who never tried that playing Madden? It’s just a video game, but some situations are fairly realistic. Including passes on the backfield to elude the defense.

by FernandoRF on Nov 30, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions

I like the following

2TE’s w/ 2 backs and AJ wide
Scott at RB
Leonard as FB
Gresham and Lee as TE’s (if Coffman could block would be even more deadly)
AJ wide

From that lineup you can either power run, or send 4 or 5 receivers into routes. You can let the defense dictate which you are going to do. If they are in a Nickel Formation then you can pound the ball behind the extra TE’s. If they stay in a base defense you can motion both TE’s and one of the RB’s out wide. There HAS to be a favorable one on one matchup in that situation. You also still have either Leonard or Scott in the backfield which you can run out of and has to keep the defense honest.

I doubt we see it this year but I really can see some form of this in the future, especially depending on what kind of RB we have replace Benson.

by C1ncy4Life on Nov 30, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions

coffman

you mean cochart

by ticalcaldwell on Nov 30, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions

Didn't we use Scott out wide once this year already?

I think I saw it at some point. That formation would be pretty flexible – I like it! I’m not sure about having Lee split out wide, but you could certainly do so with Scott and Gresham.
Plus, it would have the added advantage of not using some of our… less reliable?… receivers.

by Aether on Dec 1, 2011 4:31 AM EST up reply actions