Ask Behind the Steel Curtain
by seton hall and steelers on Nov 9, 2011 8:23 PM EST
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PrintHey guys. This is a much better game than what we all expected at the beginning of the year and I think the general mood at BTSC is depressed but hopeful. However, I know what this Bengals team is capable of. They take care of the ball, wear you down, and play great defense. I think some key matchups in this game are Ike Taylor vs. A.J. Green and James Harrison vs. Andrew Whitworth. If one team wins both those matchups, I think they win the game. Also, if Woodley plays I think you guys are in trouble. I know Andre Smith has been better this year but he can't handle the beast that is LaMarr Woodley. I think this is a classic game that goes down to the wire, my prediction Steelers 28, Bengals 21
Here are some questions for you guys
1. How did you abuse the Raiders so bad in that trade?
2. Who is your unknown player that has been performing very well?
3. What do yall really think of Big Ben? Top 5, Top 10, Bottom 5?
Please keep the Big Ben rape jokes, the Mendy terrorist jokes, the Hines Ward being a drunk jokes, and any other stupid, unoriginal Steelers jokes to a minimum.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Cincy Jungle's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Cincy Jungle's writers or editors.
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big ben is top 10 for sure
He is so elusive and throws on the play action better then anyone. will be a tough game. I think our TE’s are the secret offensive weapon. we pass to them more then we ever did when carson was here. I think Steelers putting 28 on our defense wont happen, but will be fun to watch.
Big Ben is playing like a top 5 QB right now
and that’s what scares me because our secondary is pretty weak.
How good is your number 2 corner?
Jerome Harrison usually gets shut out by big Whit, do you expect anything different?
Why the turn around for Ben from his horrible start to the year?
How is your outlook for the year already being 0-2 in this division?
2011 Year of the Red Rifle
Carson Palmer 2011 Comeback Player of the Year
I like answering stuff
1. Our number two corner for most of the year has been Keenan Lewis who is finally showing some overdue promise since being a 3rd round rookie. He plays coverage well and has improved as a tackler. Occasionally Will Gay plays the #2 role, and despite having a horrible game against the Ravens, he has actually been reasonably solid this year.
2. James Harrison is coming off a huge game and plays angry. I think he gets at least 1 sack in this one, just because of his relentless motor. Big Whit is majorly underrated and I think this will be a great matchup
3. Big Ben wasnt that horrible, his only lousy games were Baltimore in Week One and Houston in Week Four. Underprepared from a shortened offseason perhaps? Also he had to adjust to not having Hines Ward as his cushion receiver. He has well and truly adjusted now and our receiving core is among the best in the league
4. Finally, good on Baltimore, they outplayed us twice and deserved each win. I do not think it is panic mode yet, not with 7 games to go. I think we can go at least 5-2 the rest of the way, possibly even undefeated after the bye, and if we beat you guys at Cincinnati, the only tough game remaining is the 49ers (never thought I’d say that)
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by Michael Hewitt on Nov 10, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not so sure about top 5...
But I’d say Ben is a top 10 QB easily, borderline top 5.
Now, what do you think of our QB? Would you give OROY to him or Newton? Or someone else?
Also, AJ Green. I know you from MTD and I know you’re a draft nut, so you’ve probably watched more college film on him than most of us. Where do you honestly see him ranking among NFL receivers at the peak of his career? I’d say top 3 isn’t a stretch at all.
Newton Vs Dalton
Dalton has done well, but I’d go with Newton.
That is the same 2-14 team from last year, and he’s got them in every game. It is almost all him.
And while the Bengals were 4-12 last year, they also got rid of a lot of their problem players (Palmer, Ocho, Owens etc) and they are kinda back to the sort of team they had in 09, just with more young, hungry, talented players.
Not to discount what Dalton has done, I just think what Newton is doing is once in a generation stuff.
No one really expected Dalton to do what he’s done, Newton had the extra pressure of being the number 1 pick.
Even though you weren’t asking me either of these questions, I’m still going to answer them
the other question, the sky is the limit for that guy. If he stays hungry and maximizes his potential, yes, he will be top 3 material.
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by FrankWyt on Nov 10, 2011 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
fair comment
I think I would go with Dalton, but I think you expressed a very fair argument. I am biased, however.
and thanks for not being a tool about it ;)
honestly...strong arguments can be made for both.
they are both ready to take this league by the balls very soon.
I just think Cam’s accomplishments are a smidgen better, that’s all
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If Andy takes this team to the playoffs the perception of him will grow
I think Cam is going to be a great QB of the future. Andy is more of a throwback. He looks a lot more like Kenny Anderson than Michael Vick. If we don’t make it to the playoffs Can is the ROY, if he continues to play like he has. If we do go to the post season as case could easily be made for Dalton. It isn’t just about stats. I would take either but Andy is a great fit for this teams style.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
you know how it goes
media anoints a darling, cam newton, ignores the others. not the first bengal to get nationally snubbed in his career, won’t be the last. and most of us would take dalton over cam. hometown pride and all that.
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I'm not sure who, over the length of his career, I would put ahead of him
Back when he came in, I argued hardily that Palmer was better than him. That, however, did not hold up. Ben got better. Palmer got stale and then got hurt and got worse and had no leadership skills behind it. (FWIW, i don’t really see Roethlisberger as leaderly. Their leadership comes from Ward and something internalized by the team)
Definitely ahead of Ben over last 5 years/ obvious:
Brady
Brees
PManning
Rodgers
but then who else is clearly ahead of him?
Dunno
People who are arguable, but I don’t really think are ahead of Roethlisberger:
Romo (I think no way, much of his claim is being the Cowboy QB)
Favre (close, but no)
E Manning (close, but no)
Rivers
People who others might argue, but I wouldn’t even consider:
Sanchez
Ryan
McNabb
Stafford
Vick
Schaub
I’m probably missing someone obvious.
I love AJ Daltons toughness
The kid knows how to play, and he has that mental strength that often takes years to fully inherit. Plus, the immeasurable asset he has is his rapport with AJ Green. I was really high on Green before the draft, and even more so now, as long as Dalton doesnt regress, Green could be mentioned in the top 5 receivers in the game after just a few years
However, I think Cam Newton has played better, and more deserving of OROY right now. No offense intended.
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by Michael Hewitt on Nov 10, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
For A.J. Green I watched a ton of film on him and I see him as a potential top 10 WR in the NFL
I see him as Megatron Lite with slightly more speed. If he continues to work hard and stays out of trouble, I see him and Dalton being one of the scariest combos in the NFL in two to three years. Also, if you remember, I had Dalton as my #3 QB behind just Newton and Locker so I really did like him out of the draft. I also gave you guys an A on both of your first two picks so I am really scared of what this team can become.
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My coach walks in on Monday of Bergen week (Bergen Catholic is our biggest rival) and tells us that a media member told him that the Bergen players were talking shi*t about how they are going to kick our a*s. He then says, "you know what I told the media member to tell the Bergen Players? To suck my di*k and eat it. They have no fuc*ing chance of beating us because we are tougher than them"
by seton hall and steelers on Nov 11, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
And for the Raiders
That one still blows my mind. When I heard that we traded him to Oakland, I thought we got a 2nd or 3rd round pick. As soon as I saw the package, I was in total dismay. Hue Jackson (despite being a good coach) is delusional. With that said I believe Carson still has some good football left in him, but I see him as a 25 TD/20 INT guy. Convincing Hue to bring in TJ has to split the Locker room. They benched their former 1st rd pick DHB in favor for TJ, and DHB was having a hell of a season. This just goes to show me how spoiled Carson still is, and I wouldnt doubt it if his crappy brother Jordan Palmer ended up on the team before the season is over. Ha Ha
it is what it is
a mid to late 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder. similar to the kolb deal with a premium paid by the raiders to make the trade during the season rather than waiting for the off season rate.
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The next best offer for Palmer was a 3rd?
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TJ!? thats just crazy.
I cannot see why they would do that. Palmer has some good years left (he did have three td’s last week). But he is not going to be the guy that carries a team anymore and thats pretty much what they paid for him.
by TheVilified on Nov 10, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Ben... bottom 5
No not really, but I wish. At least top 10.
Unknown player: Lee and Cochart have been filling in very nicely for Gresham, but I think I have to go with Brian Leonard. He is the 3rd and 4th down beast. He sees where the chains are and he gets there no matter what.
Raiders: I couldn’t believe anyone would give so much for Palmer.
I know Andre Smith has been better this year but he can’t handle the beast that is LaMarr Woodley.Note: Andre Smith handled Robert Mathis and held him to a stat line of 0. Not even an assisted tackle.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 9, 2011 9:57 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
good point,
Just depends on what kind o day Smith has, these games are always hard to call because usually all players on both teams aare all jacked up.
by TheVilified on Nov 10, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Looks like he won't have to worry because Woodley will probably continue to rest the hammy through they Bye Week
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by seton hall and steelers on Nov 11, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Unknown player: Andrew Hawkins
Never thought to see him with such a prominent role, and probably wouldn’t have if Green hadn’t gone down. With the limited work he had done prior, he had done well, but I completely looked over Hawkins. Probably because his role had been so small up to then.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 16, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
My key matchups are pretty simple
Our DB’s against your receivers and your O-line against our D-line
IMO – Our d-line may be our biggest strength and your oline may be your biggest liability and on the flip side our secondary may be our biggest liability and you receivers are at least starting to become one of you biggest strengths
Ben’s on the fringe of the top 5.
My unknown player who has been performing well (other than Carlos Dunlap) is LB Thomas Howard (he’s an atheltic freak) and I think he’s going to be important in coverage this week against Heath Miller
The O-line made the Ravens D-line a none factor which is no easy task.
Its great having the same O-line for the 4th consecutive week for once.
Ben had plenty of time and only 1 sack. Their were plenty of running lanes for Mendenhall to use as well.
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Nov 12, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
To answer your questions..
1. How did you abuse the Raiders so bad in that trade? Spectre of Al Davis.
2. Who is your unknown player that has been performing very well? Carlos Dunlap, Andrew Whitworth, Kyle Cook, Geno Atkins.
3. What do yall really think of Big Ben? Top 5, Top 10, Bottom 5? He makes plays outside of the pocket, and for that reason he’s in the top half. He also holds onto the ball far too long sometimes and has some explosive weaons. I’d say he’s around 10.
how many probowls has whit been too?
(vs how many should he have been at?)
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I mean, they don't get talked about by the national media...
But I guarantee you that a high percentage of die hard fans within the division (the type of die hards who post on BTSC) know about all of them.
Geno Atkins is the one I am least familiar with
Definitely know Dunlap and Big Whit, and I know of Cook being a solid if unspectacular player.
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by Michael Hewitt on Nov 10, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
How much do you not miss Jeff Reed?
How is Bruce Arians’ stock these days?
did you mean how much do we not, or how much we do?
for me, i miss the hell out of him. He had a bad stretch, and was probably an asshole, but at least he can kick at Heinz. He could have gotten out of his slump eventually.
Every time Sushi lines up, I have to turn my head.
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What's your sense
Of the opinion of other Steelers fans?
by LooseCannon on Nov 10, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Well
not liking Sushi seems to be a popular sentiment. Obviously different people think different things, but I don’t think anyone would ever say “I’m so glad we have Sushi”
they may think “he’s ok” or “he’s not bad”…
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questionairre
1. How did you abuse the Raiders so bad in that trade? Hue Jackson. Push of Raiders to go for it in honor of Davis’ death
2. Who is your unknown player that has been performing very well? Both lines
3. What do yall really think of Big Ben? Answered above. I think he’s #4 or 5 w/Rodgers, Brady, Manning occupying top 3 and Brees being the other in the top 5 over the last few years.
Re: Ward drunk jokes. I don’t get on someone for making a very bad mistake.
Compared to what Ben was accused of or the anger generating machine coming out of Penn State right now, his transgression is mild. I’m pissed just typing Penn State. I’m gonna hit Post before I type a 1,000 word vitriolic post about letting that continue.
Personally I'm just so tired of the Joe Pa story...
Can’t even listen to sports radio… for the past week they have been talking about it non stop for their entire show for the entire week. Nothing new has happened with it, everyone has heard about it, TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE!
It was horrible what happened to any of those kids that were involved, but to be honest I’m just tired of hearing about it.
agreed, and agreed
i’m freaking sick of it…
Not sure if you are familiar, but one of the members of the Eagles wrote a song once…and it’s relevant to this situation.
it makes me sick….
it’s on constant cycle now…
but that’s ESPN..it’s more about the soap opera than the actual event
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lol
no..it was just one member, the song is called “dirty laundry” It is the same singer as “Hotel California” though
if you don’t feel like listening, you could look up the lyrics.
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dude. come on.
This isn’t just airing dirty laundry. I think i get what you mean, but your comment seems waaaay too dismissive of what happened here.
Buckeyes trading shit for tattoos? Okay, dismissable to some degree.
Did Cam Newton’s daddy get paid? Dismissable to some degree.
Should ND be named the Sioux or not? Dismissable to some degree.
Catching a dude f8ing a kid in the shower and failing to go to the police and then failing again when the school allowed the rapist to return to campus WITH LITTLE KIDS again. Please, don’t treat it so lightly.
I get if you don’t want to be swamped with it. I don’t either. It makes me angry. Not that I’m being forced to hear it, but that it happened and was allowed to continue.
by supergrover on Nov 10, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't know but it's likely
Stuff like that goes on. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if this turned out to be true, but I doubt that it will grow legs one way or the other. There are a lot of people in this society that have a vested interest in allowing people to think that something like this way more far fetched than it is.
by fletchersmith on Nov 10, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
as if this story couldn't get sicker
…..uggggh…
one piece of good news is the knowledge of how people like him get treated in prison. He probably won’t be there too long.
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I wasn't saying that it wasn't a big deal.
Let’s get this straight… molesting little kids IS a big deal… no question about that. I was just saying I’m tired of hearing about it. Every day for the past week every sports radio host has spent their entire show talking about this story. We all heard about it… I don’t need to be bombarded by it 24/7. And yes, I turn off their program when I hear them talking about it.
no
not dismissive of what happened, it’s more of an indictment to how crazy people go for that type of stuff. Everyone flails around like those wacky arm waving blow up dolls trying to point fingers etc. And on top of that, they love to see people on top fall one way or another. As I mentioned in another thread, there were people trying to dig up dirt on Mr Rogers for a loooooooooong time. That’s the kind of stuff that makes me sick.
You think the victims want this stuff playing on loop all day? I’m pretty sure they want to TRY to get back to a normal life, not have reporters in their face every day for the next month.
As far as what happened, no one really knows yet, I’ve already heard conflicting reports. Not saying nothing happened, but, at first I heard that he caught them having sex, then i heard he was just touching him. I don’t know.
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I'm sorry
I didn’t mean to lash out at you.
I know you weren’t intending to be dismissive and I let my anger at what’s going on get to me and vented on your post.
no problem
I didn’t really feel like you lashed out at all. I’m sorry my comment made you feel that way. I assure you I am as sick about it as you are. Especially for the red head coach guy (don’t remember his name) He’s still there, even though it’s HIS fault more than anyone’s that this sickness was aloud to continue. A 25 (or however old you are when you’re a grad student) year old guy and you go tell your daddy and then be quiet about it? F YOU
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Biggest thing we need to do is for our DLine to contain Ben.
If we can keep him inside of a collapsing pocket and actually bring him down I think we will win this game. If, however, he is able to squeeze out and extend a lot of plays I think it could give us some trouble and it will be a lot closer. I’d say for his elusiveness and ability to extend plays he’s definitely in the top 10… and he’s been playing really quite well lately. I’m hoping he sucks it up against the Bengals, though! :)
Yeah,
The interior DLinemen might be even more important this week than the beastly ends we have. Hopefully they continue working wwll together. Its pretty great that all 8 linemen really seem to work as a team no matter who is in together.
accepting the blame on being hypersensitive here
But if one of us had posted comments like this about the steelers on BTSC, the responses that followed the post would have been less than friendly.
This is a much better game than what we all expected at the beginning of the year
the bengals are expected to be bad, the steelers are expected to be good? is this the thought you wanted to convey?
1. How did you abuse the Raiders so bad in that trade?
how about something that has less of an opinion in the question, not everyone here feels it was a mugging of walker proportions. “do you all like the palmer trade? did the raiders get a fair deal in the trade? etc.”
Please keep the Big Ben rape jokes, the Mendy terrorist jokes, the Hines Ward being a drunk jokes, and any other stupid, unoriginal Steelers jokes to a minimum.
This statement is pretty much what set me into the hypersensitive mood. If you’ve ever come here, do you see any history of cincyjungle ragging on other teams with derogatories? about as heated as it gets around here, a few of us vs a few of the more vocal raven fans. even then, there are voices of reason from cincyjungle asking us to tone it down.
imagine how it would have gone if one of us had posted this on BTSC with a summary of: “Please keep the convict jokes, the we day jokes, the bungles, bangles, bangirls jokes to a minimum.” is it an insult of a suggestion that says we can’t talk about football?
" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."
I don't see anything wrong with him ASKING to talk about football and not get into insults about each other's teams.
I’ve never been over to the Steelers’ forums, so I have no clue what goes on over there and I might say the same thing. There are bound to be SOME posters that will go there, so to me it’s not a bad idea to just tell those people to not bother before they even get a chance.
was just the implication that we can't talk football here
like i said i’m being hypersensitive this morning. it rubbed me wrong. i thought on it for 5-10 minutes before i posted. since i’m almost coming at it from an inflammatory angle. i needed to be sure i really felt that way about what he posted. and looking back at it 10 minutes later, it did.
" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."
We're talking about the unwashed Steelers here
Why in the hell would someone presume that we would sit down and civilly discuss football with people that support those baby-eating vermin? If it happens, you’re lucky, but if the nature of right-thinking Bengals fans takes over and the veneer of civility cracks, it’s only to be expected.
by fletchersmith on Nov 13, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP
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Luke, I think if you expect to be offended it ia self fulfilling prophesy.
If you want to talk football – talk football and just don’t respond to smack. or talk it That works for me.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
yes, you are being way too hypersensitive
Sorry if I offend.
\please, everyone, stop trying to assume the worst possible meaning into every comment.
i totally put it out there and accepted it
" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."
three comments down
and there it is, that’s why he has to say that every time he makes one of these.
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Yes!!
I had a problem with the predictions. It is a under a friendly guise, as in “Ask BTSC”, but once is starts going to a prediction about Woodley beasting and the Squealers winning by a touchdown, which is over twice the spread, that’s politely shoving it in our face. If friendly dialog is the aim, and learning about the team is the goal, keep it there. Saying you already know what will happen, and that it will be the same as it has been for years now, is not conducive to friendly banter or learning about the other team. Save that crap for over there!
Try not to take the above message too seriously.
no offense
but the first time I cam to this site, I saw someone refer to Ben as “Rapest-burger”.
but I do see your point, but you have to understand, there are certain fan bases (Texans, for instance) that have no interest in football and just want to come out with the same ole jokes
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That is how I refer to him in everyday life
He is what he is.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 10, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
have you ever heard that rule about glass houses?
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Yes I have
but I’m also a firm believer in people being responsible for their own actions. He got off because he has fame and fortune. What you show the world is how they view you. Sorry I just have absolutely no respect for him as a person anymore. Buy it if you can’t get it on your own.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 10, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
lol
sure buddy. If you choose to believe unconfirmed rumors, that’s on you.
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So
if I say the same thing about Kobe Bryant, would that be a homer answer?
Have you ever met a woman before? What do 99% love? money, power, and more specifically, pro athletes. If he didn’t play for the Steelers, things would most likely be different for you.
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Nope
No matter who you are, you don’t do that ish
by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 10, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
if he did it, yes
but there is really nobody on Earth that has any clue what actually happened. There are a lot of people that pretend they know, based on their previous feelings about him and Kobe, but nobody knows.
I watch football, that’s all I care about. The less I know about players, the better. I also don’t buy that “playing in the NFL is a privilege” stuff either. You are entitled to your opinion, and I’m sure some of the Bengals players transgressions have been looked upon more favorably. I’m just glad we don’t live in a society where opinions by people who don’t have sufficient information lead to someone spending significant time in jail.
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that proves something?
because if you go somewhere private but still in public to bang some chick, you wouldn’t want someone making sure no one else came in there? Not seeing how that is telling at all
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" I’m just glad we don’t live in a society where opinions by people who don’t have sufficient information lead to someone spending significant time in jail."
That’s true, but unfortunately we live in a society where fame and fortune get you just about whatever you want.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 11, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
they get you the worst as much as the best.
for instance, some cop making 35 grand a year that can’t stand seeing someone make that much money, or really wants to be known as the guy who took the athlete down.
Fame works both ways sir, ask Lindsay Lohan, or Michael Jackson, or Tupac
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I fail to see the correlation here
You do the crime, you do the time. Tupac, wasn’t ever really much of a fan so not really up on that. Lohan was all over the news for her stupid decisions. Michael Jackson… yeah…
If you’re in the limelight, don’t bring attention to yourself in bad ways. Those just happen to be examples of fame and fortune not having the best payout for those individuals. Doesn’t mean that the authorities were out to get them because they were famous.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 11, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I guess MJ was a bad example,
i was referring to what fame did to him before he was accused of anything.
If Ben did something, he’d be in jail, period. Money couldn’t get Vick out, it couldn’t get Phil Spector out (who was WAAAAY richer than both Vick and Ben)
If they had something to hang on him, they would have.
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"If Ben did something, he’d be in jail, period."
If you believe that, you are truly gullible. Or just homerific.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 11, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
i would say you are truly gullible
to believe everything you see on tv, and irrational to make judgements about someone when you don’t have any facts to back it up.
again, with the “homeriffic” thing. that would work if i also didn’t by the Kobe B.S
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Anyone can add a non-homer example to claim to not be homerific about something
Anyway, 3 rape charges is more than coincidence, but I’m done on this subject.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 11, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
3?
no, those are two assault charges, but whatever floats your boat. the first, her friend ratted her out, and no evidence in the second.
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lol
$$$$$$$$
Either way, there’s a difference between rape and assault, and again, not even charged.
The TV is always right, you should believe everything you see on it.
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Yes!
and more than 3…
Check out the allegations at Miami?!! He’s a AssHat!
I know several people that attended Miami at the same time and confirms that Rapistburger is what he is..It continued to the NFL.. But they are just rumor spreading hicks too, right?
didn't say that
but i certainly can’t buy the “i know a guy who know’s a guy”
and seriously, i was talking to the other guy. As a Bengals fan, saying anything about any player from another team that operates outside the law is ludicrous. There were no allegations at Miami. You made that up.
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"As a Bengals fan, saying anything about any player from another team that operates outside the law is ludicrous."
Making that statement is ludicrous. Come over here and see what we say about our own players when they get in trouble with the law. It’s not reserved for players from another team.
And what’s wrong with someone else commenting in this string of our conversation… it’s there for all to read and comment if so inclined.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 12, 2011 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
ok then
good points. I do not know how you treat your own players. Hopefully you aren’t ready to execute them every time a story comes out.
Both Cedric Benson and Jones have been picked out because of one or two bad things they did in the past. As an example, that cop that detained Jones for no reason.
Benson hit someone, that probably hit him first.
Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, all it takes is an accusation to make that person a target for life.
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not trying to open another can of worms
but Punching another man, and raping a young girl are two completely different crimes….as for Pacman, he swerved onto the sidewalk near Paul Brown Stadium to avoid hitting a person in the street- cop detained him b/c another Adam Jones had a warrant out for his arrest.
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it's not the point of what they were accused of
it’s the point of being targeted
and for the last time, assault and rape are two different things
it’s time to change the “funny” nickname to Assaultisberger
at least that is factually accurate in terms of the accusations.
Sexual assault could range from grabbing ass to banging her too hard.
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I don't really care what you think personally
When a asshat like Rapistburger gets away with sexual assault b/c of his fame, then of course there will be a lot of shit not reported to the media, or even the police. (see Penn State) Especially in college. Tell that to the women that he’s assaulted. Which I know a couple of them. But what do you care, right?
lol
you “know a couple”…wow
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Go and team up with the rapist
and do what you guys do best and rape women. Since you love supporting a rapist..
Get a F*cking grip dude!
BTW, I guess you stand behind Jerry Sandusky too,eh?
those two are so similar
i see how you made the comparison. lol. what a joke.
I hope it stings even more every time Pittsburgh wins
I know a couple people that went to school with you that said that you did the same thing Sandusky did…it must be true
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I can (kind of) look past the rape incident.
But I attend Miami University, where Ben went to school, and his douchebag attitude comes with him. I have personally witnessed him using the phrase “I’m a explicit professional quarterback, I’m not paying for any of this explicit”.
Behavior like that is unexcusable and just add’s to the douchebag that is ben..
no one said he wasn't probably a douche
i bet most qb’s in the NFL are. actually, most players probably are.
at least the ones with the natural talent as opposed to having to work their ass off extra hard.
Either way, rape, no rape, assault, no assault, douchebag, not a douchebag.
I am watching football. I do not need moral lessons, and I do not need to know anything about them other than what they do on Sunday.
Yes, it would be sickening to find out that he actually did horrible things to women, but that’s not going to happen. Neither is finding out he didn’t
Different topic, strange amount of Miami U alumns/students on this board.
what are the odds?
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Pretty good odds.
It’s not even an hour north of here. Lots of MU people in Cincy.
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i didn't realize it
i never bothered to look it up, but for whatever reason i thought it was in the middle/east part of the state.
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But also
I didn’t refer to him as that when I made my initial comment out of respect for the request and I was just here to talk football. Guess I could have skipped this string and refrained from commenting. Hindsight
by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 10, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
There are guys on all of the sites that just need to be ignored.
That kind of talk is stupid and meaningless and smart people know it eventually and realize that it says a lot more about them then anything else. Like I said before, if you want to talk football – talk football. Responding to this stuff is like arguing with a 10 year old.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
This is as far as I'll take It.
To my fellow rival (Seton Hall Steeler).
I hope you’re not too offended when I say to you that “Big Ben” Happy Hines" &
“Mr. Mendy” won’t even get close to getting themselves in trouble Sunday.
It’s the Young & Aggressive BENGALS that might get rounded up at the end of the game for…………."Aggravated Assault w/ a Deadly Attitude’
Now back to football
Is Ward really going to play with a concussion?
What do Pitt fans think about the throw-first/hardly run strategy?
How concerned are you about your O-line health/depth?
Joel, get off the babysitter
The Hines thing
Is pretty shocking to me, such an obvious brain injury on that play. As much as I think Hines is a jerk, he should take the week off, the other WR’s have played well and I dont want to see any football players completely punch drunk at age 50.
by TheVilified on Nov 10, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
He is the toughest dude in the NFL and is not going to let Ray Lewis think he won
I am kind of thinking he will come out and have a big day just to prove that not even a blatant H2H hit can hold him back.
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by seton hall and steelers on Nov 11, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
he's not the toughest dude in the NFL
that’s laughable
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Then its James Harrison, who continued playing after he broke his own orbital bone.
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by seton hall and steelers on Nov 11, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
maybe not
but Big Ben certainly is.
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haha
neither are the toughest. sorry to burst your bubble. Harrison missed a few games didn’t he?
Big Ben- give me a break, he’s on par w/Dwayne Wade faking injuries or over hyping them, then magically being able to play through it- went to college w/ Ben- don’t start.
Toughest guy in the league…much as hate to say it, I’d put Boldin in my top 3…
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by TruWhoDey on Nov 11, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ok
obviously your toughness meter works better than mine. Yes, Harrison missed games because he was held out, however, he continued to play the rest of that game that the injury occurred in.
Ben fakes injuries? you can see them happen. For instance, the Ratbird player twisted his foot in the pile, the Rat bird punching him in the nose, and every other cheap shot he’s been forced to take without consequence for the offender.
But again, your toughness meter is obviously the expensive model.
Not really sure how you “going to college with him” matters. There are plenty of people that went to my college that I would have no clue about when it comes to how tough they are.
By the way, even the Steelers fiercest rival has two pretty tough players in their own right that concur with what I say about Ben, and have been quoted as such (Ray Lewis, Benjamin Buford Blue). But again, you are the expert.
about “who dey” isn’t the guy who started that gone? why would you want to hang on to it? and what the hell does it even mean? didn’t another team already have a “who ….”
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point being
just b/c your a steeler fan (and apparent homer) doesn’t mean your right on who you view to be the toughest players in the leage (conveniently all steelers, weird). Sometimes other people disagree. Initially you said Hines Ward was the toughest player in the leage…but now you might think it’s your QB? which is it?
My point about Harrison not being the toughest was to refute your claim that he played through the injury- yes he finished the game, then sat a few out. How does that make him the toughest? One of the meanest, probably but in my world where I don’t worship everything Steelers, mean and tough aren’t the same thing.
My point about going to college w/Ben was that he did the same BS back then- and I apologize if I worded that wrong, I don’t think he fakes injuries I think he plays them up and acts/shows that he is WAY more hurt than he really is (ie: Dwayne Wade).
Furthermore, I never claimed to be an expert, just a passionate fan that happens to disagree w/your opinion of who are the toughest players in the league.
About the whole Who Dey thing…there wasn’t 1 guy who started it, and if you’re really such a giant Steeler fan, how do you not know more about it ?
We hang onto it b/c it’s our ‘war cry’ of sorts, kinda like those lame yellow towels Pittsburgh fans think they invented…why do you hang on to that?
-The other team your referring to is the Saints, and it’s Who Dat…it’s also heavily debated who had it first.
good luck Sunday- i hope we can survice against the toughest WR/QB combo to ever live..haha
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First
I didn’t say Hines was, that was someone else. I did not say Harrison was either. My one and only comment before the last one was “maybe not, but Ben is” I mean, he had the exact same thing happen to him that Tom Brady and Carson Palmer did, but he missed two plays instead of 12 months
I was under the impression that Chad Johnson is the one that started the whodey thing. Are you saying he’s not the one?
The terrible towel thing was created by Myron Cope and the sales manager at the time as some sort of gimmick, with profits from the sale going to some sort of charity.
It is credited as being the first rally towel used in a sports venue, obviously not the last, since lots of other teams have used something similar since, including TJ Houshmanzadeh (sp?)
Lastly, how would being a Steeler fan give me knowledge of a Bengals…whatever you called it.?
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“I mean, he had the exact same thing happen to him that Tom Brady and Carson Palmer did, but he missed two plays instead of 12 months”
—-either you’re dense enough to believe Ben shredded his ACL/MCL and then healed himself in 2 plays or your completely oblivious as to what happens when someone twists and ankle vs blowing out a ligament in a knee….hopefully you are referring to something else.
You think Chad Johnson started teh Who Dey chant….or song that dates back to the early 80’s late 70’s….so i guess you’re a new Steeler fan???
As far as the terrible towel- the Steelers did not “invent” that in sports, i do not care what you want to try and tell me. :)
Being a Steeler fan would give you knowledge of another divisional rival (of what 30-40 years? —sorry too lazy to look up how long we’ve been in teh same division) unless of course you’re stuck so deep in your own little Steeler World that you can’t seem to pick up even a little common knowledge of a division foe. Around here that’s not a foreign concept.
Good luck tomorrow man
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same hit
that’s all. the hit was identical, he’s tougher.
yes, new Steeler fan….Feb 2nd 2009
So…again with the assertion that I should know or care about the Bengals because I like the Steelers. No offense, but how many times have the needed to be paid attention to?
If it was used before that, there wasn’t a lot of it going on between 1991 (when i was old enough to actually understand what was going on) and a few years ago.
you are a master of taking words and twisting, as evidenced in your next sentence where you use quotations around the word “invent”. Went back and read, i didn’t see the word “invent” in there one time. I said, “they are credited”. Which is a fact, you can deny it all you want, I didn’t make it up.
And lastly, no it wouldn’t. I know about them two weeks a year, and it is specifically related to who is on their team. I couldn’t care less about their ridiculous butchering of the English language.:)
By the way, there is no such thing as “common knowledge” of the Bengals besides the negative that they are finally addressing.
Good luck for what? I’m just sitting around watching football.
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To Frank and Tru - big yawn to this whole exchange.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
He
Is tough, but my point is that his coaches should keep him out, hes not integreal but in the lockerroom now and just seems like a stupid risk to have him play this week when he will be getting hit hard and with hatred again.
don't you know?
concussions don’t happen anymore. they’re called “stingers” now.
he says he’s playing though
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Scaife got a "stinger"
and wound up on IR
by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 10, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Haha,
I mean, I guess its impressive that he is “toughing it out” but hes not all that young and I sort of shame your coaches for letting him play this week. What happens when he gets laid out with another “stinger” this week? Its not like the Bengal D doesnt have a ton of hard hitters and this is a huge game for both teams (rivalry and standings). Seems more likely than not that he will sustain a worse injury this week.
i don't think he'd be out there if it was a huge risk.
he’s been around long enough to know what he’s doing.
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maybe
Seems like a pretty competitive guy though.
Its pretty simple.
If they give him a concussion test and if he passes it he is good to go.
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Sorry, i sent that too early
Some of our fans keep complaining that we don’t run enough, of course they are completely ignoring the fact that running rarely works.
Me personally, I love the pass first. That’s how you win in this league now, the rules are set up so you can’t touch the QB, you can’t stop a receiver from catching the ball, and you can’t do the early 2000’s Pats thing and hold the receivers all over the field. We have a great QB, and a very very good receiving corps I’m all for it.
The O line has been great since Starks came back. Ben only got sacked once against the Ravens who are among the best pass rushing teams in the league. Depth isn’t too bad, unless I’m forgetting something, only Legs is out, and he’s not very good.
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1. I think Ward will suit up, but his playing time will be limited. Either way, our main receivers are Wallace, Brown and Sanders. Ward has moved into a more background, 3rd down receiver and mentor. I think this is his last season.
2. Hate it, but when in Rome, do what the Romans do. The league is deteriorating evolving into a pass happy spectacle. So be it. To compete, you need to score points quickly and attack from all angles. I am not happy with it,but having one of the better QBs in the league makes it easier to handle.
3. OLine has played fine the last few weeks, even against the Ravens I think they had their best performance. Starks is back playing well, and Marcus Gilbert has been a nice surprise as a rookie too
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by Michael Hewitt on Nov 10, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
What were the keys for the Ravens having your number this year?
Flacco is decent but he didn’t do this on his own.
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To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
Im hoping it was their Dline,
As I think ours is slightly better (or more?) Thats pretty much the only thing I can think of. But whats crazy is all of the 3rd down conversions, I hope Dalton can come up with something similar.
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That's what I wanna know too UPM.
Mr. Seton Hall Steelers –
I can say that when we interact with other teams’ fans, we, to my knowledge, don’t lower ourselves to lobbing obscenities at other teams. We, having been the brunt of most NFL jokes for so long, are always sensitive and remain on the defensive side of that debate. So I must applaud palewood for pointing out the less than positive spin on your approach.
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1. I don’t think we abused the Raiders at all. We helped ourselves, and we helped them. The fact that we made out in the deal could be attributed to their loss of Al Davis. I feel Al would never have gone for such a deal. Instead, he’d have teed-up Prior and threw him out there as quickly as he could. Bad deals can happen to any team. As an example look back to last year when the acquired Antonio Bryant. 7 mil guaranteed – dude didn’t play a down because our inept medical staff misdiagnosed his condition. And yes, they were summarily fired for it! Remember – in this world “Turnabout is fair play”.
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2. There are no “UNKNOWNS” to us. One surprise player – I’d say probably Donald Lee. dude’s coming up big for us!
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3. Ben – still in the top 10 although IMO his line is quickly becoming older and more ordinary.
Questions for you –
What surprises your fanbase about the Bengals this year?
You’re 6-3 at this point. How confident are you guys about this year?
Are Farrior, Hines, and Woodley gonna play? And what of Palamalu? With a rib injury breathing may be difficult for him. But knowing him, they would have to strap him down to keep him out!
Thanks
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I can say that when we interact with other teams’ fans, we, to my knowledge, don’t lower ourselves to lobbing obscenities at other teams.
I got pinged for a couple / few f-bombs in a post, but it wasn’t directed at the visitors. I hope it didn’t offend, as that wasn’t my intent. The post was, appropriately, deleted, but it was just a joke youtube idea for a bengal fan with a steeler fan girlfriend/wife.
by supergrover on Nov 10, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Ray Rice
having him kinda helps. That dude is awesome.
by supergrover on Nov 10, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Rice did almost nothing
last Sunday. He obviously burned them in week 1, but he was bottled up almost all day
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Thank goodness too
I was able to pull of the win in fantasy due to this
by Oregonbengalsfan on Nov 10, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
First game...many things
Second game, the same problem as the Super Bowl (William Gay) Clark deserves some blame, but if Gay didn’t get completely torched…..
Over all they didn’t really “have our number” in the second game, they just won a tough game.
Ben was awesome outside of that stupid screen he tried, and Mendy was very effective when called upon.
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Big question:
Is there any way I could get the Steelers to make Gay cover(try) AJ Green instead of Taylor????
1st game was horrible, they were much better prepared and conditioned
They started quick and just wore us out. Not much more couldve gone wrong
As for the 2nd game, they had a solid passing attack gameplan and took advantages of the mismatches that their TE’s called. They also attacked William Gay who chose a horrible time to have his worst game of the season. Again, their offense appeared better conditioned than our defense, as we looked out on our feet on that 92 yard drive for the win
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by Michael Hewitt on Nov 10, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
to that end
go to youtube and search for “vegan black metal chef”
good stuff
by supergrover on Nov 10, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Dude's got some cooking skills!!
Not high on the musical approach though..
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Hines Ward's Future?
iIget the hines ward love from Steelers fans, and what he meant/means to your franchise/city….but IMO you’re offense is 3x more explosive with him out of the lineup. Sanders or Brown can both run a slow 10-15 yard route like Hines, but unlike Hines- they each can turn that into some serious YAC’s.
What is the longterm plan for him w/the emergence of your young Recievers? He has 2 years left on his contract if I’m not mistaken, but IMO the younger guys (Brown,Sanders) have earned more PT and make your offense that much more dangerous/explosive
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I think Hines is in his last season
Being brutally honest, thats how I feel and it kills me to say that. He has already made way for the likes of Antonio Brown and he has been a great mentor to the young receivers.
However, he is still very crafty and has a place on 3rd downs and wide sets
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by Michael Hewitt on Nov 10, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
This. I just hope he comes back as our WR coach or on our staff in some sort of way
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by seton hall and steelers on Nov 11, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I personally don't think there is any way
Hines don’t stay in the organization in some capacity. He’s got Steeler blood running through his veins
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wow.
more baseless claims from a Bengal homer.
you guys appear to be experts on attributes you can never measure because you’ve never actually met the person.
Here’s one for you, Andy Dalton will never be good because he doesn’t have a strong relationship with his cousin. BAM! Ridiculous claims about something I know nothing about are sweet!
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he was referring to Hines Ward becoming a top tier GM ala Ozzie Newsome
man, most steeler fans aren’t this sensitive….
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still doesn't change the fact that
him, you, me or anyone on either of our boards knows that.
no sensitivity here, just pointing out the obvious.
but, on that note, judging by our comments back and forth, i get the feeling your really like Arctic Cod, and hate carrots
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Since you've opened up predictions, how about this...
I think that both teams are very strong and similar going into the game. The Steelers have a worse offensive line, but better secondary. Everything else seems fairly equal, though the Steelers have much more experience. The game comes down to the wire (as you said) and the last possession will hinge on one of the clutch QB’s going up against a one of the league’s top defenses on the other side of the ball. It would be difficult to really say who does what in that situation, and it will likely be very contextual. Regardless, Count me in on that ride!
I think Ultimately the Bengals are realistically the only competition left for for the Ravens in the division. The Ravens seem to have the upper hand in that they have beaten the Steelers twice. I think the Bengals will take one, possibly two games from the 4 games they have combined against these two teams. The division will likely go to the Ravens due to an easier schedule the rest of the way. Pittsburgh will get a middle to high draft pick if they beat out the Bengals, but due to poor protection issues, this won’t be a repeat of The Gifted Super Bowl Run.
Ultimately the Bengals will put the finishing touches on their promising roster through the draft with the number of high round picks they have over the next couple of years. The Steelers will be battling with an in adequate offensive line and an aging defense, as the once greats show signs of slowing. Ben Rothlisburger won’t be able to put up 30 points per game and start to show that he is not truly a top 10 quarterback when he doesn’t get help on the other side of the ball of a top 3 defense every year. He has explosive WRs to keep him relevant, but the Steelers are not the threats that they once were. Meanwhile the Bengals will be boasting an impressive roster, and with the retirement of Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, the Bengals are the favorites to win AFC north, and contenders for Lombardi, for a string of several years.
Please, don’t include homeristic predictions when you are trying to shake hands before the game on the other team’s turf.
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I’m excited for this game. Hope there are no injuries!
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I saw the comment that Roethlisberger would be locked up if he had raped anyone.
That is absolute insanity. Anybody that can form mouth or fingers to say that knows nothing about justice in America particularly where rape is concerned. Who in the hell believes that kind of stuff anymore?
The prosecutor in the most publicized case involving Roethlisberger went as far as he could go without getting himself into trouble to disclose that what happened in that bathroom was rape of a pretty egregious nature. The case fell apart because the victim would not cooperate, which is something that happens quite often in rape cases for what should be obvious reasons by now.
Presumption of innocence is one thing; presumption of magical thinking is another. Is it a lead-pipe cinch that no Bengals ran a train on that woman in Seattle? Is it a lead-pipe cinch that Ray Lewis didn’t kill that guy in Atlanta? It is quite likely that Ben Roethlisberger not only did something, but did something very bad to more than one woman and yet remains unincarcerated. I suppose that it’s technically not appropriate to persecute the man in the absence of conviction, but are you going to let him within 10 feet of your daughter?
I guess some would
B/c Jerry Sandusky was allowed around hundreds if not thousands of kids. He was never prosecuted. Soon to be, but never has.
He’s still out on bail and lives right next to an elementary school too… His back deck is 50 ft away from the schools swing sets…
All I got out of your comment was, “I’m an ignorant pole-smoker so I’ll avoid any football related conversation and instead stick to some half-assed argument in which I’ll demonstrate my complete lack of understanding involving anything that doesn’t include blowing homeless men.”
Basically, I’m saying that you are a piece of shit.
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