Mike McGlynn to Start at Right Guard for Bengals
by Jason Garrison on Dec 15, 2011 2:30 PM EST
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With Bobbie Williams' season-ending injury, the Bengals need a new right guard to take his place between right tackle Andre Smith and center Kyle Cook. They basically have two options: rookie Clint Boling, who started the first three games of the season when Williams was serving a three-game suspension, and Mike McGlynn who replaced Boling in Week 3, started the fourth game of the season and came in last week when Williams left the game with a broken ankle.
According to The Cincinnati Enquirer's Joe Reedy, Williams' replacement for the Bengals' Week 15 game will be McGlynn.
McGlynn was signed before the regular season after he was released by the Philadelphia Eagles. In the four games that he has played this season, he has accumulated a ProFootballFocus.com score of -2.7 (compared to Williams' 1.9), with a pass protection score of -4.0 and a run blocking score of 0.6. He has allowed one quarterback sack and five pressures.
McGlynn will likely be the starter at right guard for the rest of the season. Boling has been inactive since Week 5 and it would be very unlikely if the Bengals started him this weekend.
The Bengals also signed Otis Hudson to the active roster in response to Williams' injury. He was Williams' original backup at right guard in training camp but he was cut from the team after Week 4 to make room for Williams and was signed to the practice squad. Hudson will likely serve as the team's third option at guard as McGlynn and Boling will likely be the two active guards.
The Rams have the worst rush defense in the league but they've racked up 35 sacks so far this season, which is one behind the Bengals and good enough to be tied for ninth in the NFL. The Rams will likely send a decent amount of pressure McGlynn's way on Sunday. Hopefully he's able to handle it.
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Considering Chris Long (12 out of those 35 sacks) status ins’t too inspiring for the Rams, I believe the trenches matchup is favorable to the Bengals. They lead the league in sacks allowed (46), but they’re reasonable in run block. Dunlap is back, but Geathers will play the most at DE, I suppose, stopping the run, and Dunlap will tear some qbs apart.
watched his locker room interview
He does not look scared, and he sees this as an opportunity to prove doubters wrong. Lets hope he produces. Pressure up the middle is the worst. It is time for the offense to step up and protect the defense. If we can have a two score lead, our D will be able to pin back their ears and turn Dunlap loose. Has the Red Rifle hit the rookie wall? If so, let’s hope he breaks through on Sunday.
Where is this talk about Andy hitting the rookie wall?
He is still making plays, we just need better play calling, get Gresham more involved and have the running game help the kid out. We can not pass the ball all the time, we need to run it as well. Benson especially needs to do more, after last weeks -1 yards in the second half. If he had gained just 10 yards, we might have won that game!
I felt like the team grew complacent when they had the lead.
It’s on Dalton keep that sense of urgency throughout. I felt like they lacked energy in the second half. It’s on Marv keep the teams head in the game. I know I’m being harsh, especially on our beloved rookie Red Rifle. Since we want to get in the playoffs, I want to challenge Marv and especially Andy to pick this team up and carry it on their shoulders for these last three games.
Okay....I can see and agree with your comments...
However, Benson did not do much to help in the second half. Like the old saying goes, You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink. Our running game was pathetic in the second half. I know I have criticized Benson, but Scott deserves criticism as well, plus Gruden, he should of had Baby Hawk run a few more plays and teach those RB’s what they were suppose to do, he should of brought in Peerman for a change of pace…but what do I know…
It was pathetic because
the run blocking on the right side was pitiful. Benson was getting hit immediately. He got negative yards for chrise sakes in the second half. Why? No big Bobbie.
Thats why this game could be much closer than we want.
Disagree...
The Rams are not the Texans on defense. Furthermore, why not run left side? Or screens? Bring in a TE to help with the right side, wasn’t Donald Lee playing? Benson was also going down too easy… There are many ways to counter and we didn’t.
You know what...
You guys are right. STOP THE GAME…lets just admit defeat for this game and the rest of the season and pack it up. No bother playing the game or showing any support for the team. You are right. Bobbie Williams went down, meanwhile the Texans had a guy play the game with a broken leg and their running backs still managed to produce. Ours, well, Bobbie Williams went down, so we should just end the game and season right there!
Haha!
It’s next guy up is all. We will make whatever adjustments are necessary to win. I think we’re going to the Super bowl.
I never said we were going to the superbowl....
in fact, if we make the playoffs it would surprise me. But the negativeness on this thread is uncalled for in my opinion.
I SAID we're going to the Super Bowl.
Its about time some said it out loud, funny you thought it was sarcasm though.
+ 1
Gresham needs to get the ball. Scott needs to stay on the bench.
by Bigcatdaddy on Dec 15, 2011 5:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
But St. Louis isn't that far from Cincy
and is quite a ways from the west coast
by Oregonbengalsfan on Dec 15, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
McGlynn started quite a few games last year for the Eagles
I am confident he can get the job done. Then again, I was confident we would beat the Texans last week, so take it with a grain of salt…. :)
if he falters
might need to start looking at smith or collins to fill in at guard
" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."
this is correct
reason i suggested the coaches might have to look at them in the weeks to come.
" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."
or Sportstick
"When you see it open up and all you can see is the end zone, it’s hard to describe how relieving it feels." -Ced Benson
by ItsAlwaysSunnyInDayton on Dec 16, 2011 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
Next years draft had
better focus on Oline. For the sake of AJ and Dalton they had better build a stunningly good Oline and not repeat all the CP9 mistakes. Find replacements for the entire right side with high picks and guys who dominated the run blocking in tough conferences.
Williams injury is a huge blow to the Bengals, just as bad as the Leon Hall, if not worse.
They definitely need to build the OLine...
But remember, Williams was not there for the first 4 games of the season. Boling was great in college, but like Alexander said,
Fourth-rounder Clint Boling, who started the season’s first three games at right guard before the club went to McGlynn, is working on getting stronger "and just learning the pro game," Alexander said. "I’ve always said it: you don’t come out of the womb playing NFL football."
Williams is 35 years old
35 years old.
His time is up soon enough and the darn Bengals should have had his replacement lined up by the end of FA this summer. Either from the draft or FA. They didn’t do it. Now they have to, probably in the draft since they get 4 picks in the first 62.
Boling is no answer. He’s too much an unknown.
The Bengals have enough draft choices next year to have two new starting guards and a new RT along with a new bell cow RB if they want.
Boling is no answer. He’s too much an unknown.
Really? This guy was projected to go in the 2nd to 3rd round, and he is an unknown? Are you kidding me??? He is also from Arkansas, I can understand him being an unknown if he was from Coastal Carolina (no offense), but Arkansas is a big college in football last time I checked…
So you think a guy that played awful in the
first four games this season gets the job handed to him next season?
That would be nuts in my view. They have 4 picks in the first 62. I think there might be some stud linemen available that can start right away, in round 1 or 2 and still have picks for CB, WR, RB.
If Boling plays great in camp next season, great. Then the Bengals have much better depth. Now they have no depth.
He wouldn't get the job "handed" to him
But if he is working on earning it now during practices ect. (as PA said, getting stronger and learning the pro system) then it’s not too far fectched
by Oregonbengalsfan on Dec 15, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
So you pass on a stud in the draft because
they have a guy that isn’t “too far fetched”? Why not get a guy that has the skills to start the first day of training camp and Boling can either beat him out or get better trying? Then enjoy the depth at Oline? With 4 picks in round 1 and 2, this is safe thing for the Bengals to do…and smart. Take no chances on the Oline, don’t repeat the errors of the CP9 era. Use the extra picks to build a dominate Oline for Dalton and Green.
How do you know that Boling won't
evolve into that “stud”?
+1
You said it, I didn’t have too
My “too far fetched” comment applies to now, not the off season.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Dec 15, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying he won't be a stud.
But I’ve seen plenty of evidence he’s far from ready because he isn’t starting on Sunday is he?
So given the serious lack of depth on the Oline with or without Bobbie, the Bengals have to use their extra picks to get more linemen. Dalton and Green deserve no less.
Just give the kid a chance, that
is all I am asking before you kick him to the curb
They will have an idea when the time comes
if Boling will be that stud. If it’s not there, then yeah.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Dec 15, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Call me crazy
but sometimes players need a season or so to adjust to the NFL level, again call me crazy, just my opinion.
Remember Wes Welker? Yeah, he was so valuable to the Dolphins that they traded him to the Pats for nothing, and look how he has adjusted…
But you are right, I am nuts….
+1 to you are nuts
+1 to what say as well Not everyone steps in the first year and can produce like they will when they are seasoned.
been a fan of the Bengals for 32 years...
maybe being nuts is partially why, and I still hold out hope that we will return to the promise land someday and WIN it!
Thank you...
I guess in my excited state I invoked the incorrect school. Thank you for the correction. :)
He's actually from Georgia
And I’d still like a draft pick to challenge Boling for the left guard spot, if not a free agent. Best scenario is one of them becomes a quality backup.
Georgia Arkansas...they both wear red....
Just kidding, Thank You! I wrong, he was from Georgia not Arkansas… :) Thanks…
Can't write today...
I WAS wrong…forgot that word, had it in my head, but never made it to my fingers…
the Bengals one scout
only goes to Georgia games though; never Arkansas.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Dec 15, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
youre also not taking into account
Livings is still needing replaced, Collins might be gone, Andre smith is in his last year. 2 guards are needed, if boling can replace livings great, who replaces bobbie? Livings is LG in he waiting. I’m not sure he will be good, he’s not in over mcglynn, who I’ve pointed out as sucking already, and he looked bad enough to be replaced by mcglynn. A year might do him good, but I’m not going to count on boling. So drafting a guard high fills in the rg, and boling fights with livings for LG, or another drafted guy can fight for boling and livings for a spot in the team.
by JCompton41 on Dec 15, 2011 4:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1 Totally agree drafting RG high is a priority
Quality LG can be be found 2013 draft build the line over 2 drafts. We cannot let Collins go in FA, its’s way to hard to replace a quality tackle like him and unfortunately for us with him starting other teams will be getting a good look at him. If we start him next year so he stays and move Andre to LG, then if Andre does go we can easily draft a quality LG. We’d also be much better served with a backup tackle that can play guard rather than a centre doing it, Markus Zusevics Iowa 5th rounder of Unsigned JB Schugarts RT Ohio State or Charles Burton T/G Montana. if we want to move up to the next level we must draft to upgrade not replace hopefully ML doesn’t let the quality players walk.
mcglynn has looked bad every time hes played
So I’m not to optimistic. And Andy has slowed down, but I wouldn’t call it a rookie wall, I would call it facing the elite defenses in the NFL. His bad games came against 49ers. Pitt, Baltimore, and texans, who are all top 5 or 10.
by JCompton41 on Dec 15, 2011 3:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
McGlynn also came in after training camp...
and had to step in when Boling struggled..so he had to catch up quite a bit.
Thanks for your recognition of Andy struggling against top 5 defenses he has faced. In all those games, I think those teams defenses were in the top 5, but take away the second Pitt game (and the second half of the Texans game), he fought back in the second half and almost pulled out victories.
This whole he is hitting the rookie wall, I just don’t see it. Sorry….
guard is guard
He got ran over, not out of position. Eagles line sucked last year and he was one of the worst. I’m not saying he will for sure suck, but I will be surprised if he doesn’t.
by JCompton41 on Dec 15, 2011 4:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Are they even worse this year?
Evan Mathis I heard was horrible over there…
You are right about Dalton.
He’s getting beat because our running game isn’t very good. AJ is getting doubled almost all the time now. Gresham needs to play better too and Gruden needs to target him much more often.
If McGlynn plays poorly this game on Sunday will be too close for comfort.
Don't forget Jerome Simpson/Andre Caldwell's
fantastic contributions to the passing game…in fact, combined, they had fewer yards than AJ had by himself!
we are missing a piece
we need one more play maker either on defense or offense. I think that would a make a world of difference if we get that extra first down or turn over here and there. Im thinking Mays might be that player, if he can become a starter.
AMAS
and Shipley will out a lot next year too
man that would have been crazy if he didn’t get hurt, but Im kinda glad he did because of Hawkins!
AMAS
Tell me about it...
The loss of Shipley is HUGE!! Think of the pressure he could take off from Gresham and AJ if teams had to worry about Shipley
Shipley will be back.
ACL injuries can be a complete recovery and he wasn’t the fastest guy on the field anyway. I I expect he’ll be ready to compete for a job in July, without question.
yea i just hope he added a few more pounds
he seem to be on the smaller side and takes on a lot of hits
AMAS
Why? We know what Shipley can do
he is not one of the problems on this team. Why would we replace him?
You are asking for us to waste a draft pick
on a position we already have sewn up!
I think we may have to draft at least one later in the draft
Tate, Caldwell and Simpson may not be here next year, so we still need depth
AMAS
for those 3 YES
For Shipley, I can not go along with that…
You like to jump to conclusions don't you?
As well as ignore the obvious.
Simpson carries 8 pounds of pot around his shoulders and has been either great or nonexistent this season. He’s gone.
Caldwell has been nonexistent this season, he’s gone.
That right there says 2 new WR’s are coming into town and guess what? They will compete for jobs against everyone not named Green.
I wouldn't count on Simpson being gone
You are jumping to conclusions yourself
by Oregonbengalsfan on Dec 15, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Shipley didn't compete against Simpson
He competed against Caldwell.
Maybe you guys think the current crop of WR’s will return intact?
Simpson’s contract is up this season. Same for Caldwell.
Neither has been extended that is plenty of evidence they won’t be back.
Shipley is coming back from a serious injury so of course he’ll have to prove he’s ready to play by competing.
I didn't say they WILL be back
but you are saying they WON"T be back…
by Oregonbengalsfan on Dec 15, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yes they won't be back
If the Bengals were high on them they would have extended them by now.
They become free agents in about 3 weeks.
Hall, Cook and Whitworth got extended this season. That tells you all you need to know.
Actually it doesn't
Only those 3 got extended with many more that still yet need to be extended. Again, who’s jumping to conclusions.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Dec 15, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, I'm not jumping to conclusion, just using
common sense.
They extended the guys that were priorities and key to the team.
Simpson has an obvious pot problem that the Bengals don’t need the rules of evidence to distract them. 8 pounds of pot in the house is clear.
You think they sign a guy, even to a 1 year deal, with that kind of history? Plus he drops too many passes and disappears during big games.
Again
You are jumping to conclusions without evidence. We have no idea what is going on with Simpson’s pot incident besides the fact that there was pot in and sent to a house that he owns and is hardly ever at. I admit if it turns out he’s involved or he continues to be inconsistent then yeah he’s most likely gone, but if he’s determined to not be involved and starts performing consistently, I’d almost be willing to guarantee he’ll be back. Just because they haven’t signed anymore of the players that will be free agents next year does not mean they aren’t going to re-sign them. If that’s the case we are going to need more than 4 early picks and a hell of a lot of free agent signings. Which could happen. I’m just not going to jump to conclusions and day he will or will not be back next year.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Dec 15, 2011 5:58 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Actually, Simpson's
problem is no where near Sam Hurd’s problem….
We don't even know Simpson bought
We have no idea what is going on with Simpson’s pot incident besides the fact that there was pot in and sent to a house that he owns and is hardly ever at.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Dec 15, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention
A lot of this team’s contracts are up this season
by Oregonbengalsfan on Dec 15, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
shipley is the slot recieclver
No competition. Second wr is the question regardless of simpsons legal issues. I would not be shocked to see someone added to push Simpson into being more consistent.
by JCompton41 on Dec 15, 2011 4:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What about the kid from Oklahoma...
Ryan Broyles?
Would have to see how well he comes back from his ACL injury
by Oregonbengalsfan on Dec 15, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
wont get that chance
He won’t run until after the draft. He would be well worth a 5th round flyer though.
by JCompton41 on Dec 15, 2011 9:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wrights a 2nd rounder at worst
by JCompton41 on Dec 15, 2011 9:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not really, look at my previous posts
I have bitched quite a bit about Simpson/Caldwell…so much so, that I am tired of doing it myself…
They're both ordinary
and won’t help us win a superbowl I don’t think either would make it on Packers or Saints team
Packers/Saints...
I am not sure they would make it on Colts/Chiefs… :)
+1
we should look for 3 to 4 unsigned WR all around 6 to 6 2 after draft and let em fight it out for spots pick best one or two
We got Binns on the practice squad
and we still have Whalen. I like to see Whalen show what he can do. As I stated before, can he really be any worse than Caldwell? Are they not using him because he is a rookie and they are not too high on playing rookies? But they must have some trust in him, otherwise, they would move him to the practice squad and run the risk of losing him (a la Dezmon Briscoe), but they have kept him with the team, so maybe it is just me, but I guess they see something in him that we have not been privilidged too…
+1
I completely forgot about Whalen and Binns.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Dec 15, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
simpson is more than ordinary
He can make great plays! Just not consistent. If he can stop the dumb lapses he is a very very good wr.
by JCompton41 on Dec 15, 2011 9:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It sounds like the whole team will be gone or need replaced
Shipley will be slot, and if I’m not mistaken they might have found a back up for him with Hawkins. The line needs a piece or two but the secondary is more of an obvious need in the draft. First priority is resign our own and add to that and go to the show in 13’.
by Bigcatdaddy on Dec 15, 2011 6:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Very true..
I was thinking of that while I was driving home. Shipley with Hawkins as the back up… :)
Personally, we need to a "stud" at CB in the first, if possible..
The last two, J-Joe and Hall, not too shabby. Yes, we need to rebuild the offensive line. However, they drafted Boling in the 4th round, so he is no slouch, otherwise, they would not have drafted him so high. If he does not work out, we can get rid of him, but let’s see what he can do. Being thrust into the starting line, and only having 3 games to judge him on is a little premature to label him a bust. Heck, Aaron Rodgers rode the bench for years before he got a shot, so who knows. I would like to see how Sands has done and how Moch has done, but those guys are either inactive or hurt, Hard to say how good they are. We definitely need to upgrade our running game, Ced is not the same runner he was even last year, if he can’t make a guy miss, even if they come through the line, then we need someone who can make guys miss. We have had Scott for 3 years now, and he still has not proved anything. We need to get a viable #2 receiver, Simpson disappears too often (especially against the Steelers), Caldwell is just not getting it done, even when he has chances…We need another DT in the mode of Atkins, and another DE would not hurt either, although, old man Geathers seems to be having a revival of a season. We can disagree about things, but I think we all agree that this team is on the verge of being an elite team for years to come, if they can draft correctly and fill the holes! Who DEY!
disagree on boling
Rodgers rode the bench behind brett farve, boling is riding the inactive roster behind livings and mike mcglynn! I’m not saying cut boling, but we can not count on him. If he turns out good, fantastic, if not we need someone else to be ready.
by JCompton41 on Dec 15, 2011 9:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
WHO DEY!
Couldn’t have written it better myself. Development is key, Boiling was a fourth rd pick he wasn’t expected to come in and start. Scott hasn’t shown to be even a good 2nd back, definitely not a first. Benson would be a good second back. Offensive linemen are fairly easy to find in FA so the big skill positions should come first in the draft, and if they fell into a STUD backer I wouldn’t be upset at that pick. One thing that has helped the Bengals find some jewls in the draft is coaching the Senior Bowl, I hope.they get that chance this year.
by Bigcatdaddy on Dec 15, 2011 7:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Definitely need someone who can return
kick-offs and punts….is killing us in the return game with bad decisions…
that should have read...
kick-offs and punts….Tate is killing us in the return game with bad decisions…
What about Pac Man
If we do adress the corner need in the draft that will make Hall, Clemens, Jennings, and Jones. Ghee was on the practice squad so he may go back. I don’t know who they’ll keep out of these but with a player or two added it would free up Pac Man to return kicks.
by Bigcatdaddy on Dec 15, 2011 8:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why not give Hawkins
a shot back there. He’s fearless and thats what you want with KO return guys. Good hands, and he is quick and shifty. All he does is come up with big plays when we need one and he is given a chance. I been looking for him on KO for the past 3 or4 games. I think he was out there once.
re: Williams
Smith to guard and Colins a tackle.
+ 1 on both
Hawkins on kr Jones on pr sounds good. I just hope they can resign Collins.
by Bigcatdaddy on Dec 16, 2011 12:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
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