How to be a Contender+ Mock draft
by Touhue Cha on Dec 16, 2011 1:35 AM EST
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At 7-6 the Bengals still have a lot of room to grow and improve, also the Bengals are still missing some pieces, there is still a chance to win out and try to get the #6 seed in the AFC, if we just win out and take care of business we still have a chance, and maybe ask for some help from the Eagles,Giants, and Dolphins to knock the Jets out.
But 1st thing 1st
(sexsalad: i took your words and i changed the mock draft up and did a lot more thinking this time)
On the Front Office
I would have to say that the Bengals Front Office has been great as of late, besides bringing back JJoe, but thats out the door
- Signing of Nate Clements who is a solid veteran who can not only play Defense but also make plays on ST as well
- Signing of Thomas Howard and Manny Lawson: 2 LB's who has helped our Defense and has been playing well as of late(excluding the Texans game in Coverage)
- Trading for Taylor Mays, the guy was a 2nd rounder and we only gave up a 2013 7th round pick for him and we get to develop him with that chip on his shoulders as like the other 31 teams didnt want you and heres your last chance mentality
- Trading for Kelly Jennings, I dont think it was a great move, but an okay one, Jennings hasnt been what we expected because maybe we rushed him into the line-up after Leon Hall's injury, but Clinton McDonald was going to get cut anyways it was a numbers game
On Marvin Lewis
- Marvin Lewis has finally have control over his team, also he has the authority to run his team and not have to deal with the distractions
- Marvin has gain some respect from Mikey Brown and Brown seems to trust Marvin
- Marvin had to deal with Ownership and Ownership has now given some control to Marvin
- Marvin's Team surprised everyone, everyone expected the Bengals to go 0-16 and draft Andre Luck, but has everyone on their heels thinking this is a new team, Marvin's Team
On Jay Gruden
- Has done a great job with a Rookie QB and WR
- Balance out the offense and is using the weapons more
- Inputting Gresham in the Offense and is spreading him around
- Not Predictable unlike Bratkowski
On Mike Zimmer
- Building a Great Unit, only if he can add a few more pieces then the D would be scary
- Using guys to their Strength
- D-line Rotation is a Key to Zimmer's Defense
- Has got a lot of pressure on Opposing Offenses
Free Agents the Bengals should give a look
Offense
Carl Nicks OG Saints
Ben Grubbs OT Ravens
Robert Meachem WR Saints
Ted Ginn Jr WR 49ers
Matt Forte RB Bears
Drew Brees QB Saints(notable)
Overview
On Offense, the Bengals should really address the O-line position and the #2 WR spot. I personally think Jerome can play, but the guy just need to be more consistence every weekend and he has the tools to be a 1b WR. Offensive Line is the big issue, the Bengals will have to at least get a guard in FA and maybe another through the Draft
Defense
Mario Williams DE/OLB Texans
Thomas DeCoud S Falcons
Cortland Finnegan DB Titans
Tracy Porter DB Saints
Aaron Ross DB Giants
Kareem Moore S Redskins
Overview
The Bengals dont need to really need to go into Free Agency and get a lot of pieces, they can really build through the draft on the Defensive side of the ball. They dont need to really to address the safety position until they get to see how Taylor Mays play.
Bengals Free Agents
(Bold= re-sign)(Italic= Maybe)(No Mark= not coming back)
Jerome Simpson WR:Maybe
Andre Caldwell WR: Gone
Cedric Benson RB:Gone
Bobbie Williams OG: Bring back for 1-2 years
Nate Livings OG: Maybe if we dont get big names in Free Agency at OG
Anthony Collins OT: Can be a starter else where but is has been good in Cincy
Mike McGlynn OL: dont see this happening but maybe gone
Dennis Roland OT: I dont see Roland coming back unless the coaches see something i dont
Donald Lee TE: would be great to help Gresham maybe another year
Bo Scaife TE: its neither Scaife go or Lee
Chris Pressley FB: hes coming back for sure our only true FB on the team 2-4 year
Mike Nugent K: has been clutch havent had a K who is clutch (cough Cough Shanye "Shame" Graham)
Frostee Rucker DE: Good for our depth 2-3 years
Jonathan Fanene DL: can play DT and DE and good for depth 2-3 years
Pat Sims DT: Big Run stopper and can plug up the holes and take one double teams 2-4 years
Robert Geathers DE: dont see Geathers coming back unless he is willing to take a paycut big time
Manny Lawson LB: has been great for our Defense, 2-3 years
Vincent Rey LB: its a numbers game here, with River coming back, hes more likely to be gone
Adam Jones DB: Jones adds depth and toughness on the outside
Kelly Jennings DB: gone
Reggie Nelson FS: hasnt been a playermaker, but has been solid to be a force
Gibril Wilson S: Wilson should come back, guy is a veteran who knows the game
Jeromy Miles S: Miles can be back, but it depends where we are headed in the draft
Draft (My Thoughts)
Round 1: Lamar Miller RB Miami,FL "U"
Round 1: Trade down for a 1st in 2013 +2nd in 2012 and a 6th in 2012
Round 2: Janoris Jenkins DB North Alabama
Round 2: Stephon Gilmore DB South Carolina
Round 3: Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin
Round 4: Trumaine Johnson DB/S Montana
Round 5: Alex Okafor DE Texas
Round 5: Asa Jackson DB Cal Poly
Round 6: Jeff Demps RB Florida
Round 6: Landon Walker OT Clemson
Round 7: Philip Blake C Baylor
Overview
The Reason for trading down is that this year's draft class isnt as strong as People say it will, it is looking to be a weak draft so why not stock up some picks for next year and get the players you want, It will also be easier to make a move with more draft picks at hand.
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WR and RB
WR: We should keep Simpson. He is still yong and developing.
I do not like Meachem, Manningham, Hawkins, or Douglas, I would rather use a pick on reciever.
Wallace: We should make him our # 1 priority, either sign him, or push the price up for Pittsburgh to do so. Helping ourselves while hurting Pittsburgh is a bonus.
Ginn: Would be a nice replacement for Tate and can actually play as a 5th reciever.
I don’t think that Garcon or Colston will be resigned.
RB: I would rather draft 2 RBs than sign someone. We should use a 1st round pick on a RB, then a later pick.
It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain
Im targetting Garcon and Colston, if we dont get them we can always get Jerome
also Wallace would be a huge addition unless we can get Kendall Wright
Wallace
I just think that Wallace is the only one worth trying to outbid the home team because of his production and the damage done to the Steelers. I do think he will resign with Pitt
It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain
Makes sense
I haven’t looked at free agent lists except above. Just my evaluation of needs and draft prospect lists.
It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain
We seem pretty big on signing ex-49ers too.
/Lawson
//Clements
///Mays
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
by Doc Scratch on Dec 16, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lamar miller is not trent richardson
Therefore we should not draft him in the first round. He may be good, but people like him can be found all over the draft. Geathers will take a huge paycut no matter where he goes, so I can see us keeping him, he’s a good piece on the dline. Fanane, rucker and sims are the ones who will get a pay raise, and will be harder to keep.
by JCompton41 on Dec 16, 2011 9:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I think you and I are in the minority about Geathers.
He’s not a worldbeater by any means, but he’s consistent, good against the run, and can fluke a sack or two at critical moments. He pretty much destroyed Cleveland right out of the gate in Week 1.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Trade Scenarios for RB's
3rd round pick for Houston’s RB Tate
Andre Smith to Dallas’ Felix jones
AMAS
I would say Murray, but since I live in Dallas now
and watching a lot of Dallas games, Murray is the real deal and wont be traded. But Jones however, is expendible and he has top notch speed. plus he has better hands than Benson. Andre Smith has balled out this year, but the amount we are paying him is not worth it because he is always hurt, so it would make sense for Dallas to concider it because OL is their biggest need.
AMAS
True but you cant teach speed
I think thats the biggest thing our RBs are missing is that break away speed. And as I said before, I think our offense is better set up for RB by commitee
AMAS
speedy rbs are so easy to find
watch the combine you will see at least 10 rbs run a 4.4 or faster this year
just my thoughts without looking at free agency
2 cbs that high really limits us filling holes were needed… safety is a huge hole and trumaine johnson is really good but is unproven at safety and has played lesser competition in college… i really like lamar miller but i think we should address the o line with one of the 1st rd picks (decastro, barrett jones very versitile can play guard or tackle, glenn) and get a rb in the 2nd or 3rd such as polk or ball… then do not trade the 2nd 1st rd pick yes extra picks are nice but 1st rd talent is a must for our team right now… i would like to add a speedy wr and i really like kendall wright and i know you do from reading some of your other post but hes shooting up the board mcshay has him in top 32 so my guess is hes out of the question so we would have to find someone else… i kinda like the demps pick hes fast and a solid return man and i feel would be an improvement over b scott
if something doesnt make sense ill try to explain
i wrote something then accidentally deleted it so i wrote this kinda fast
but for some reason i think we would have to grab him earlier than a 6th rd
the dude is gonna run something crazy fast for his 40 time and even though hes small that might boost his stock higher than the 6th
I Get what you are trying to say, I mean Trumaine Johnson Doesnt need to make an impact right away,
We still have Taylor Mays, who has show promise in coverage as well as in the run support, on the other hand i got 2 Db’s because i was assuming we get a OG and maybe getting another one, if Trent Richardson declares this would be my mock
Rd1 Trent Richardson RB Alabama
Rd1 David DeCastro OG Stanford
Rd2 Janoris Jenkins DB North Alabama
Rd3 Xavier Rhodes DB Florida State
Rd4 Trumaine Johnson DB Montana
Rd5 DeVier Posey WR Ohio State
Rd5 Jeff Demps RB Florida
Rd6 Asa Jackson DB Cal Poly
Rd7 Landon Walker OT Clemson
before glenn and osemele i would go barrett jones if he comes out
better all around blocker with the versatility to play anywhere but center
I'd love that draft even more.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
HAVE YOU SEEN OUR DB's COVERAGE SKILLS, HORRIBLE,
but yea Rhodes can go but i thought why do we need Derek Wolfe when he fits a 3-4 Defense??
Unless he is going to play DT for our team
I'd love that draft.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
i dont see jenkins slipping to the 2nd either
Dudes right with clairborne as best cb in the draft. I say first be decastro and Jenkins or Jenkins and Glenn.
by JCompton41 on Dec 16, 2011 7:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Remember how Dunlap fell in the draft for character concerns?
He got all the way to us in the second and he wasn’t even kicked out of Florida.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
heh
“I would have to say that the Bengals Front Office has been great as of late, besides bringing back JJoe, but thats out the door”
Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the play?
by occams_tiger_teeth on Dec 19, 2011 12:01 AM EST reply actions
with the play Clements
I think we can argue that is almost as good as resigning JJO. The only difference would be, JJO seems to get more INT. BUt Clements has made big plays every game. I think the lose of Leon hurt the most this season.
AMAS
starting to think
the first 3 picks of the draft need to be offense
Touhue Cha
Can i get the top ten prospects for OG in this years daft? I think that should be a priority in this years draft after watching the past couple of games.
AMAS
Here's mine in order of 2012 OG
I’ve watched a heap of College games this year especially watching Oline and CB with teams that have potential draft picks. So i trudged my way through some pretty shitty games whilst at the same time missing other intersesting games
Ranked A – Draft position no reaches B – Graded on talent C – Starter future starter backup depth
1. David DeCastro RG Stanford
2. Barrett Jones RG Alabama (If he declares) David DeCastro will be long gone our best bet 1st round
3. Peter Konz C (could play both guard spots future and backup C) If Barrett Jones doesn’t declare an option in 1st round
4. Kevin Zeitler RG Wisconsin 2nd – early 3rd round if we miss on the top 3 he’s by far our best option. Improved throughout the year Starter or wait a year behind Bobbie if he’s resigned
5. Brandon Washington LG Miami 2nd round will fall to us Just rated
6. Kelechi Osemele LG Iowa State early 2nd round If we trade of our firsts real good option has played LT this and done really well there
7. Cordy Glenn LG Georgia1st -early 2nd round picking him in first huge reach. I see 2nd coming of Andre Smith
8. Lucas Nix G Pitt – 3rd round if we’re picking a guard here and haven;t picked one earlier then we’re not serious about Oline
9. Senio Kelemete G Washington 4th round raw would take time to develop
10 Markus Zusevics RT Iowa (Convert to Guard make good depth) 5th round
2013 draft there are some really good prospects at LG much better than the ones this draft check CBSSports.com 2013 draft OG
I think it would be awesome to have best oline in NFL this is the way to beat Pittsburg likwe Baltimore did earlier in the season where their Oline smashed steelers Dline
Please comment I would like to know others thoughts
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