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How This Weekend Impacted Postseason Discussions For The Cincinnati Bengals

ST. LOUIS, MO - DECEMBER 18: Andy Dalton #14 of the Cincinnati Bengals hands there ball off to Cedric Benson #32 of the Cincinnati Bengals against the St. Louis Rams at the Edward Jones Dome on December 18, 2011 in St. Louis, Missouri.  The Bengals beat the Rams 20-13.  (Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)

Entering Sunday’s game against the St. Louis Rams, Cincinnati preceded the weekend with playoff scenarios that depressingly dwindled following an upsetting and disastrous loss to the Houston Texans last weekend. Though the Bengals needed to rally to beat the Rams 20-13, with a little help in the form of three St. Louis personal foul penalties, the Bengals have re-entered playoff discussions with a little more strength then they had before Sunday’s conclusion. And that’s thanks to a little help around the league.

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The Indianapolis Colts won their first game of the season, beating the Tennessee Titans 27-13. The loss drops the Titans to 7-7 with an incredibly steep uphill battle to reclaim postseason discussions. If not for Matthew Stafford driving the Lions 98 yards on seven plays, capped by a game-winning six-yard Calvin Johnson touchdown with 39 seconds remaining, the loss by the Denver Broncos to the New England Patriots would have a greater impact for the all-coveted sixth seed.

But more impressively, and importantly, the Bengals (and any other team fighting for that sixth spot in the playoffs) desperately needed the New York Jets to lose on Sunday, which is exactly what happened with the Philadelphia Eagles obliterating the Jets 45-13.

What does this all mean?

The Cincinnati Bengals and New York Jets are currently tied for the sixth spot in the playoffs, the second wild card seed with two games remaining. Since the Jets and Bengals won’t face each other this year and since both the Jets and Bengals have an identical 6-5 conference record, the third scenario to break the tie will be each team’s respective record against common opponents. Since both teams beat the Jaguars and Bills, and since both teams lost to the Broncos and Ravens, the Jets break the tie because of two wins against the Bills. In other words the Jets are 3-2 and the Bengals are 2-2.

Now if both teams win out, then both teams’ record against common opponents would be negated because the Bengals would go 3-2 with a win over the Ravens. And both teams improve their conference record to 7-5, making the final tie-breaker the strength of victory, which favors the New York Jets.

Again, what does all of that mean right now?

Nothing.

There’s two games remaining and if the Bengals fail to win out then it’s virtually pointless. Now there’s always a possibility more scenarios surface that require more teams being considered, injecting the discussion with three-way ties, but only if the Bengals and Jets both lose games in the next two weeks. But it becomes convoluted and for our purposes, if the Bengals lose then most likely they’re out of the playoffs.

Actually this does mean something. It means that after last week’s punch in the gut, the postseason discussions can reignite after this weekend went exactly how Cincinnati needed it.

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omg

was that knox hit brutal to watch

" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."

by palewook on Dec 18, 2011 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

One of the nastier football injuries I’ve seen

by Schmidtastic on Dec 18, 2011 8:05 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

man….I don’t even know what to say about that hit….I hope he is alright.

Boy, I'm three generations deep, in gangstadom

by FrankWyt on Dec 18, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

how do you do that by the way? Is there like a site that makes a bunch of those gifs or do you make them yourself?

Boy, I'm three generations deep, in gangstadom

by FrankWyt on Dec 18, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

that was on the sbnation front page

i’d heard it was horrible to look at, once i seen it, knew guys here would want to see it too. feel bad for knox, at least he’ll get to walk, probably a career ender though

" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."

by palewook on Dec 18, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

RE:

I’ve been so caught up with the Bengals and figuring out all of the playoff stuff. It’s the first time I’ve seen it. How bad is he (besides the obviousness of the hit)?

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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 18, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

saying he has movement and can feel in all extremities

CHICAGO - Bears receiver Johnny Knox will have surgery to stabilize a vetebra in his lower to mid-back after being taken from the field on a cart in the opening minutes of Sunday’s 38-14 loss to the Seattle Seahawks.

He has a “positive prognosis for his career and quality of life,” according to the Bears. The surgery is scheduled for Monday.

“He has total movement throughout his body, has total use of all his extremities, which is good,” coach Lovie Smith said. “We’re doing tests right now. He has total movement. He’s not paralyzed or anything.”

" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."

by palewook on Dec 18, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

phew…thank you

Boy, I'm three generations deep, in gangstadom

by FrankWyt on Dec 18, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

But in playing each others opponents the Bengals would have conceivably beaten the Ravens when the Jets have not. Does that not count has a tie breaker for the Bengals?

by pondermuse on Dec 18, 2011 8:00 PM EST reply actions  

RE:

Not in the way you’re hoping.

By common opponents right now, the Bengals are 2-2 while the Jets are 3-2. If the Bengals beat the Ravens, then the Bengals record against common opponents would improve to 3-2.

So that tie-breaker is eliminated and we go to the next one — strength of victory, which the Jets have.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 18, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you Josh for clarifying, so regardless we have to hope for the Jets to lose one game while the Bengals win out in order to make it. Thanks again.

by pondermuse on Dec 18, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

RE:

That’s basically the bottom line. Bengals have to win out for this to happen. A loss will virtually end it.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 18, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."

by palewook on Dec 18, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The Bengals don't necessarily have to win out. . .

. . . as long as one of the Bengals’ wins is against the Ravens, and the Jets lose to the Dolphins in week 17 (even if Jets beat the Giants Next week), then both the Bengals and Jets would be 9-7.

Bengals would win Conference tiebreaker (7-5 vs. 6-6). This, of course, also assumes the Bengals still finish ahead of the Titans and Raiders, whom we both lead by 1 game.

Now I obviously want the Bengals to win out, but it is not a “per se” requirement that they do. And considering the way the Jets looked today, it would not shock me for them to finish 0-2 over the final two weeks. One game at a time.

Glad the Bengals took care of business today. A win is a win is a win – just ask the Packers, Titans, Raiders, and Jets that. Now let’s take care of business against Arizona next week.

by The_Black_Stripes on Dec 18, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus, Ravens have already clinched a playoff berth (with the Oakland loss today)

So, I would prefer the Ravens to win tonight and next week, and somehow already have a the number 1 overall seed locked up by the time they play the Bengals. The Texans loss today really helped the Ravens today in getting the #1 seed. It’s essentially up to the Ravens and Pats. This Sunday literally could not have turned out better for the Bengals playoff chances.

I can NEVER root for the ravens, but I do want them to win tonight and next week, lock up the #1 overall seed currently tied with NE), and come to Cincinnati and lose to the Bengals. I lot of football to be played, but who would have thought that the Bengals would be in a virtual tie for the last playoff spot with 2 weeks remaining.

Who Dey!!!

by The_Black_Stripes on Dec 18, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

So, I would prefer the Ravens to win tonight and next week, and somehow already have a the number 1 overall seed locked up by the time they play the Bengals.

Why? You don’t think you can beat that team straight up? B.S. You played them pretty damn tight last time. It’s not like they’d rest anyone in that game anyway. Your team absolutely can beat those guys.

Boy, I'm three generations deep, in gangstadom

by FrankWyt on Dec 19, 2011 3:28 AM EST up reply actions  

RE:

Winning outright would be sweet.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 18, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

giants are a can of suck lately

1-5 over the last 6 weeks.

" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."

by palewook on Dec 18, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Good day over all for you guys huh?

Boy, I'm three generations deep, in gangstadom

by FrankWyt on Dec 18, 2011 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

aj green hurt

not so much.

may the raven get bent over and sent home butt hurt from san diego tonight, then it will be a good day.

" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."

by palewook on Dec 18, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

RE:

Green is going to gut it out. But his loss just highlights how limited we are in the passing game and I don’t think Dalton is good enough to do it on his own.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 18, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah i want to roll into week 17 with just simpson and caldwell vs the ravens

" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."

by palewook on Dec 18, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

RE:

Who is a cute kitty cat? Yes you are. Oh, yes you are.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 18, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

i should have looped an image of linda blair in there to appear every 30 seconds..

" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."

by palewook on Dec 18, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, it's getting a bit much...

when even the animal kingdom is Tebowing.

by Who dey in LA on Dec 19, 2011 1:55 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

awesome

+1’d and I hope others catch this

... I still say it was a touchdown, got tammit.

by supergrover on Dec 19, 2011 6:41 AM EST up reply actions  

lol…yep. I wasn’t aware of Green being hurt. I didn’t get to watch any of the earlier games today. What happened?

Boy, I'm three generations deep, in gangstadom

by FrankWyt on Dec 18, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

RE:

Definitely worked out as well as it could for sure. Back in the thick for that sixth spot.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 18, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

RE:

That loss to Houston was a killer.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 18, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

nevermind

Dec. 18, 2011 5:51 p.m. – by Ron Clements – WR Green doesn’t think he’ll miss any time
WR A.J. Green doesn’t think his AC Joint sprain will cause him to miss any time. "I’ve had it before, and it’s nothing serious," he said. "You’ll have to break my leg or something. I’m ready to get back out there and get in that playoff hunt." Bengals RapidReports

by ticalcaldwell on Dec 18, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I am noy sure he will be a carobatic as usual but......

a shoulder joint sprain is much more playable than a hamstring. Her can still run and if he gets clear he can catch.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Dec 18, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmmm

interesting….its possible….

by ticalcaldwell on Dec 18, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

1313 for moss, 1377 for boldin

someone said green needs like 180 yards over the next 2 games to be the #3 rookie wr all time

" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."

by palewook on Dec 18, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I would imagine he’s not close. Randy Moss was insane in his rookie year.

Boy, I'm three generations deep, in gangstadom

by FrankWyt on Dec 18, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Moss rookie season

1998 Minnesota Vikings receptions:69 yards:1,313

by ticalcaldwell on Dec 18, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I should have looked it up before I typed it lol.

Boy, I'm three generations deep, in gangstadom

by FrankWyt on Dec 18, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

actually I just looked it up, its’ some guy named Bill Groman, 1473 yards in 1960

Boy, I'm three generations deep, in gangstadom

by FrankWyt on Dec 18, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

giants have been horrible for 6 weeks

1-5. doubt they could beat the colts the way they’ve been playing

" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."

by palewook on Dec 18, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

they looked awful against the Redskins…

They played well against the Cowboys…

by ticalcaldwell on Dec 18, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

They can go from great to terrible on a weekly basis. Two bas games in a row

means they are due for a good one and the Jets are really not that good.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Dec 18, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

jerry rice

927 yards as a rookie

Calvin Johnson 756 yards

by ticalcaldwell on Dec 18, 2011 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

pretty cool

to be talking about the playoffs when most ppl here and in the media were thinking we were gonna be in position to draft luck LOL

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Dec 18, 2011 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Who Dey. A lot of football left. Care care of business.

by The_Black_Stripes on Dec 18, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm putting Greshams face on the back of a milk carton

Has anyone seen a big STUD TE? Last seen wearing an orange and black jersey. Last seen somewhere around the endzone.

by Bigcatdaddy on Dec 18, 2011 10:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Agree

He’s been a huge disappointment this year. Someone else needs to step up as we’re getting completely one dimensional in the pasting game

by ncbengalsfan on Dec 19, 2011 5:10 AM EST up reply actions  

ALMOST regardless of what happens this weekend

Bengals need the Ravens win and Jets loss against the ’Phins

by dlittle58 on Dec 18, 2011 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

We just need to win out plan and simple

It would’ve been to easy if the Bengals won last week.

by Bigcatdaddy on Dec 18, 2011 11:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree

That was such a huge loss to the texans

by SCbengalsfan on Dec 19, 2011 1:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Gotta take care of business this weekend first.....

never know which AZ team is going to show. They have some weapons with Wells, Fitz and Peterson returning kicks. Glad we have them in the cold at home, let’s take care of business guys!

by The Van Buren Boys on Dec 19, 2011 7:56 AM EST reply actions  

If Marv

Could roll back time. Do you think he lets Mike Nugent attempt that 53 yard FG in Denver now? Who knew that was such a huge play at the time.

"Next season will be better" circa 1990

by Yarin on Dec 19, 2011 10:33 AM EST reply actions  

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