1 Game doesn't Define a career!!

by UpstateNY78 on Dec 21, 2011 8:44 PM EST

I know some of you may have read the recent fan post about Taylor Mays and after reading the comments it seems people are ready to give up on him...Yes he has been a work in progress this year and I know all of us want to see him on the field but some things take time. He really could use a full offseason with Zimmer.. So far his special teams play has been good sometimes great. As for defense he only played in 8 snaps against the Rams and yes he has the bad play in the endzone but come on he needs to be on the field more...And not just to stop the run. If you remember back to the Houston game when he was covering Owen Daniels; Owen didn't catch one pass on him!! So lets give him a shot and he needs more playing time!! Remeber one game doesn't define a player heck AJ Green only had 4 catches for 29 yards against the 49ers! Some times we are all allowed off days!! We should stand behind Mays because he is clearly the quickest, strongest safety we have!!

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I would have to agree

People keep forgetting there was a lockout and players didnt get to spend time with their coach, also Mays was acquire after the preseason if im right

by Touhue Cha on Dec 21, 2011 10:02 PM EST reply actions

we picked up Mays during the preseason

just before the Panthers game I’m pretty sure

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by ItsAlwaysSunnyInDayton on Dec 22, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions

Your right,

I’m pulling for Mays
But the guy has had more than 1 bad game,see SF
I think Zimm will find a way to use him,but i dont ever see him living up to the hype he once had.

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by keithp on Dec 21, 2011 10:07 PM EST reply actions

Agreed but...

Carroll gave up on him by not drafting him and the 49’ers couldn’t wait to dump him. Hope he contributes, but often where there’s a lot of smoke, there’s fire.

by laibach on Dec 21, 2011 10:17 PM EST reply actions

1 Game doesn’t Define a career!!

Joe Namath says you’re wrong…just saying.

But on your topic, yeah. You can’t judge Mays yet.

Boy, I'm three generations deep, in gangstadom

by FrankWyt on Dec 22, 2011 12:20 AM EST reply actions

Yeah, but

Joe Namath was a Jet. You can’t listen to a Jet, see Rex…

by WHYUS!! on Dec 22, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions

Hadn’t considered that, but I’ll be damned if you aren’t 100% correct

Boy, I'm three generations deep, in gangstadom

by FrankWyt on Dec 23, 2011 5:54 AM EST up reply actions

Taylor Mays is a perfect example of a very good athlete who is not a natural football player

Leonard and Shipley are examples of guys who aren"t super gifted athletically but are simple naturally gifted football players. Do you guys remember a guy named Peter Koch? Looked looked Tarzan but played like Jane. (He played the role of the big guy Clint Eastwood beat the crap out of in Heartbreak Ridge) Pete Rose is a baseball example of a moderately gifted athlete born to play baseball I am not sure Mays can be a good football player but I am willing to give him a full OTA/TC cycle under Zim before I throw him under the bus. He has all of the tools – he just doesn’t know which end of the hammer to hold..

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by JUNGLEJOHN on Dec 22, 2011 12:21 AM EST reply actions 1 recs

Very well said

And I agree

AJ Green = Optimus Prime

by Helmsy on Dec 22, 2011 1:16 AM EST up reply actions

exactly

like someone else said, I think referring to a comment on the 49ers board: Taylor Mays looks like a football player, but that’s all he has in common with a football player.

by indesignkat on Dec 22, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions

Well said.

by DTFCPDX on Dec 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions

never said to give up on him

accepting the fact that mays is currently a project and not ready to compete for the starting job yet is the reality though. in time, anything is possible. starting safety, special teams captain, a linebacking project, depth for the bench, or a bust. we’ll have to wait and see.

i have said, the bengals need to focus on drafting a starting safety in the off season. not a project, not another sands who needs time on the bench. a player that can give crocker a fight for his job. crocker while great at stuffing the run or situational packages, is not the cover safety of the cincy bengals future. he’s depth. sands is an unknown to the fans at this point.

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by palewook on Dec 22, 2011 6:21 AM EST reply actions

if your someone like Aaron Pettry, then one game DOES define your career

by ephram on Dec 22, 2011 1:39 PM EST reply actions

It’s not like Taylor Mays was just drafted last week and the game vs. St Louis was the first game that he ever played.

He’s been in the league for almost 2 years now, and as a Bengal for the last 14 games. And of those 14 games, he hasn’t been good enough to get onto the field much….and then last week when he does finall get onto the field, well he, um, he just didn’t look like the second coming of David Fulcher.

Hopefully Mays gets better, but this isn’t baseball, where you spend 3~5 years in the minors buidling up to being able to play in the top level. The shelf life for most NFL players is 3~5 years…so if you don’t get it together after a couple years most teams are going to start moving forward without you.

At some point you move from “project” to “bust”. I don’t know when that occurs. Is it after 2 years in the NFL? I don’t know. Mays probably isn’t at that point yet, but he’s got some big strides to make.

by ephram on Dec 22, 2011 1:45 PM EST reply actions

considering that his college coach could have drafted him and chose not to

then the team that did draft him already let him go, I think the bust label is perfectly apt.

by indesignkat on Dec 22, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions

not like we gave up much for him

if he contributes on special teams for a 7th round pick, its a solid trade.

means cincy has to get serious about drafting a safety that can start in 2012. crocker is great for situational packages (run/blitz) but not the answer for coverage.

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by palewook on Dec 23, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions

Not ready to give up on Mays either........

we only gave up a 7th round pick to get him too. For the fact he’s been great on special teams alone that hasn’t been a bad deal. We gave up nothing to get the guy. He’ll get there, it hasn’t been as fast as we all would have liked but I still think he’ll get there. He needs a little more time under Zim.

by The Van Buren Boys on Dec 22, 2011 1:49 PM EST reply actions

agreed.

Mays has only been in on limited snaps. Small sample size to be saying he isnt a football player

by BeWarned on Dec 22, 2011 6:51 PM EST reply actions

we've given simpson, caldwell, and scott

a total of 10 seasons to work out how to be nfl players. would agree the least we can do is give mays 2-3 years to figure it out.

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by palewook on Dec 23, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions

Do you think it's a good plan, though?

To let guys have 3+ years to try and figure out how to do what other guys are doing in their first year?

by indesignkat on Dec 23, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions

he's not total dead weight on the roster

he’s on special teams. hell, thats bringing more to the table than simpson, caldwell, and scott have done most of their time here.

caldwell had a span of 4 good games, 2 years back. simpson has shown up this season after doing jack for 3 years. and scott, well 3 years into the experience, still looks like a smaller version of benson without much playing time.

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by palewook on Dec 23, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions

I agree

Simpson and Caldwell haven’t been very useful either. Scott hasn’t done much, but in the rare occasions when he’s had a chance to play for a whole series he hasn’t sucked. He doesn’t look like the future of the Bengals running game, but at least he drives for more yards instead of falling down as soon as he’s touched. I’d be happy with all of them getting the boot and new blood brought in.

by indesignkat on Dec 24, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions

At the minimum

He will be great and cheap depth for our thiiiiiiiiiinnnn secondary. Lets be honest, we havent thought about spending money or picks on our secondary since we got Hall and JJoe. I think that changes this offseason, and Mays will probably turn into amazingly good depth next year (which is very much worth a 7th)

by TheVilified on Dec 23, 2011 9:37 AM EST reply actions