We're just tired of the "good enough" mentality of Mike Brown

by NorwayMike on Dec 26, 2011 2:53 PM EST

If Cincinnati politicians had a brain in their heads they would have bought the stock instead of letting Mike Brown get his hands on it. We could have been 30% on our way to owning the team like Green Bay (not just the half-empty stadium)and getting rid of amateur hour.

I have been a diehard fan since the Bengals were founded and was actually happy to see the last of Palmer and, especially, Ocho. But after keeping so many "star" players who did not want to be in Cincinnati, letting Jonathan Joseph, who wanted to be there and the only all-pro on the team walk to a conference opponent they would play THIS YEAR was almost too much to take. Keeping him would have, I believe, resulted in at least 2 more wins (starting with the 1 point loss to Houston) and probably kept Hall from overwork and injury. How do you not lock down that tandem when you are so far under the cap?

Brown does just enough to keep attendance respectable but is ALWAYS a few starters and many backups short of fielding a Superbowl winning team. We are always rooting for future potential, never for a mature product. I love the Bengals, I still watch every game,went to spring training, love the heart and effort in the players, but I am tired and really don't dare to think that they have a championship team. And Sunday, when Torrey Smith is streaking down the sideline and our secondary suffers another one of its many breakdowns (you can't always expect the opponents to trip) we will wallow in the fact that this all could have been so much more if Brown had even a little competence and vision

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The issue, I think, was the Palmer trade.

Had we locked up Joseph, we weren’t getting the wealth of FAs we brought in without Palmer pulling a power move. Brown very cleverly operated as if that $11.5 million hole in his cap were filled and, somehow, that worked in our advantage, other than losing Joseph.

The other thing is, we didn’t want to overpay. The Texans barely offered more than us if they did at all, but that was enough for him and he bolted rather than stay here.

"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus

by Doc Scratch on Dec 26, 2011 3:09 PM EST reply actions

I still think it was JJ

Palmer and the city were done. If we take JJ at his word, and I do, he wanted to stay in Cincy. The question is, while everyone else with Superbowl ambitions is chasing and stacking cornerbacks of any quality, why are we giving away an all pro?

by NorwayMike on Dec 26, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions

I'm not sure what JJ said publically.....

But his actions, to me, were the actions of a man that wanted OUT of Cincinnati, not matter what. Meaning, he’d have taken a little less money from somebody else, he wanted out so bad. From all accounts, we made him a fair offer. Nothing more you can do than that.

by Stanley1 on Dec 26, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions

I think it's a little of both.

If JJ knew we were going to be a playoff contender without him, he would have been more inclined to stay. He was a free agent coming from a team that appeared to be cleaning house and in full-on rebuilding mode. I’d have left too, and it’s not because I don’t like the city or the fans or even necessarily the owner. You don’t volunteer to stay in a situation like the one the Bengals were in. JJ went to a team that was a defensive back away from serious contention. That’s a smart move as a competitor.

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by Pardon_My_French on Dec 27, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions

Can people stop pissing and moaning about mike brown for one week!

Mike Brown isn’t going anywhere anytime soon and even if he does kick the bucket in the next few years that would leave us with Katie Blackburn which isn’t exactly an upgrade. So how about people shut up about Mike Brown for one week while we have a shot at making the playoffs and focus on beating the Ravens.

by peko'sponytail on Dec 26, 2011 3:48 PM EST reply actions

The Katie effect

Maybe Katie will hire a GM? We can only hope!

by NorwayMike on Dec 26, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions

Mabye she'll move Marvin to GM

Promote Zim to HC! Sweet!

"Shiny. Let's be bad guys."

by KentuckianaBrowncoat on Dec 27, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions

by Law1951 on Dec 26, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions

Players always say one thing

But probably feel something different. I’m sure JJ did say something to the effect that he wanted to stay. Hell Palmer even said good things about the city and team when he pulled his stunt.

by Bigcatdaddy on Dec 27, 2011 3:05 AM EST via Android app reply actions