Will Robert Geathers And/Or Antwan Odom Be With The Bengals When The Regular Season Starts?
Bengals defensive end Robert Geathers recorded 10.5 quarterback sacks during the 2006 season, mostly as a third down pass rushing specialist. On January 10, 2007, the Bengals rewarded Geathers with a six-year contract worth $33.75 million with $12.5 million guaranteed, with at least another $1.25 million linked to incentives with quarterback sacks and Pro Bowl berths. Geathers is projected to make $3.95 million in 2011.
A year later, on March 2, 2008, the Bengals signed free agent Antwan Odom with a five-year deal worth $29.5 million with $11.5 million guaranteed. Odom is projected to make $4.5 million in 2011.
Will either defensive end make the roster in 2011?
Geathers has played 58 regular season games since signing his contract in 2007, recording 10.5 quarterback sacks through the last four seasons -- the same total he recorded in 2006. In his three seasons with the Bengals, Antwan Odom has only played 46% of the team's games since 2008 (competing in 22 of a possible 48 games), recording 11 quarterback sacks during that stretch. Even that is somewhat misleading. If you take away his five-sack performance against the Green Bay Packers, that's six total quarterback sacks in 21 games played for the Bengals over three seasons.
Combined, Geathers and Odom will cost the Bengals $8.45 million in 2011.
During his position review of the defensive line, the Cincinnati Enquirer's Joe Reedy believes that only one of the team's veteran defensive ends will return next season.
Along with Geathers and Odom, Carlos Dunlap, Frostee Rucker and Michael Johnson are signed through 2011 (among other noteworthy linemen like Victor Adeyanju and James Ruffin). Jonathan Fanene is an unrestricted free agent who the team likes for his versatility to play any position on the defensive line.
Even after the Collective Bargaining Agreement is resolved, the team will have decisions to make. One of those might be releasing either Geathers or Odom. On the other hand, with a new CBA means that releasing one of player could have a decent salary cap penalty upon release.
Then there's the question of the NFL draft. Will the team look to draft a defensive end, like Da'Quan Bowers to work opposite of Carlos Dunlap?
Based on production alone, it would make sense that the Bengals release either Geathers or Odom, if not both defensive ends. On the other hand, with so much unknown about the CBA (salary caps, penalties) the Bengals might keep both players for a slight comfort of depth at the position. Additionally, if the CBA is finally resolved two weeks before the projected start of the season, how likely would the team be to revamping their roster? In their mind, it might be the safest move keeping both ends on the roster who already know the defense.
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Tough call, let Zim handle it
I definitely don’t think they should keep both. Let Zimmer decide who stays and who goes. Maybe they both go if he doesn’t need them. I like Geathers because he’s a good tackler who can play special teams and be a rotational DE. He can also fill in at OLB if he really has to. Odom has been far more dominant at times in his career, but only here and there. I think it was the roids, but man was he effective sometimes.
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by Pardon_My_French on Feb 17, 2011 2:17 PM EST reply actions
Both are overpriced back ups at this point.
Dunlap and Johnson have proved in my opinion to be more effective. Geathers and Odom have had their best days and have both proved to be injury prone. To me this is the most obvious position on the team to free up a lot of cap space without downgrading in talent. Draft someone in the middle to help the young ends we already have and add depth with FA and late round, high end prospects. Geathers had one good year and Odom has had one good third of a year for this team. Neither have been worth the money they’ve been paid and to keep paying them for minimal production would be dumb as we need this money to keep J-Joe and L-Hall around.
Agree on Odom
But I think that Geathers is good on first and second down, allowing Dunlop to maximize opportunities in passing situations, making him more effective.
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Dunlap should be starting
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by TennBengalfan on Feb 17, 2011 2:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Keep Geathers, Release Odom. Sign Ray Edwards
Geathers, if you notice, actually lines up at DT on obvious passing downs. L to R (at the end of last year when we seem to generate most of the pass rush) it was Dunlap, Geathers, Big Geno, and MJ. So Geathers is still a productive player, and Zim seems to appreciate all of the little things he does and brings to the table. Keep him. Plus, although it seems he’s been around forever (drafted in 2004), Geathers is only 27.
Regarding Odom, he should be released (I.e. Contract terminated). He simply cannot stay healthy enough to be a constant presence on the field for an entire season.
Use the money saved by releasing Antwan (plus money saved from an eventual Chad trade) to sign Vikings DE (and Cincinnati native) Ray Edwards. Edwards has admitted he’d like to play in Cincinnati if everything is right (read: the contract and guaranteed money is what he expects).
2011 DEs = Geathers, Dunlap, MJ, Ray Edwards (hopefully), Frostee, and Fanene (re-sign him, plus Fanene is versatile enough to also play DT.).
DT = Domata, Geno, Sims, Tank/draft pick
by The_Black_Stripes on Feb 17, 2011 3:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm not for signing Edwards
If we let the old guys go, we might as well hand things over to the young guys.
Edwards is NOT old
He just turned 26, and is coming off his rookie contract. Believe me, Zim will be able to get all DLinemen plenty of snaps. Plus, you can never have enough quality pass rushers (just ask the SB winning NY Giants from 2007).
by The_Black_Stripes on Feb 17, 2011 4:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not so fast that team had Strahan who made the difference not just a good pass rush look what the team minus him did!
Giants also had . . .
Osi, Justin Tuck, Mathias Kiwanuka, Strahan. Those are/were four dominant and relentless pass rushers. Also, Osi suffered a severe injury the year after the Giants won the SB, so it wasn’t just Strahan’s retirement that hurt (pun intended) them.
2007 Giants of Osi, Tuck, Strahan, and Kiwanuka could be duplicated by . . .
2011 Bengals of Michael Johnson, Dunlap, Geathers, and Ray Edwards (hopefully). They would all see significant snap, while still keeping them all fresh.
by The_Black_Stripes on Feb 17, 2011 5:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Keep Geathers for depth, drop Odom. I guarantee Odom will get hurt again. Roids made him a beast and he only looked good in 09
Roids made him (Odom) a beast and he only looked good in 09 because of the 5 sack games against GB. GB had Oline problems that day. Odom got lucky…
Perfect example
Of MB s thriftyness. You reap what you sew
by quickslant on Feb 17, 2011 3:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Odom is overpaid,
as well as sickly. He always looks like he just recovered from a major illness, and he gets hurt a lot. I would bet he’s missed more games than he’s played but I don’t know the numbers. He needs to go.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
If we draft Bowers, get rid of both
If not, keep Geathers at the least. Geathers, as injured as he has been, gets on the field, but I imagine Bowers fully assimilating Geathers’ role on this defense if he is drafted by us.

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