If the Bengals Really Want Change: Start Drafting Better On The Offensive Line
The Cincinnati Bengals organization kicked off their inaugural season in 1968, a year after Paul Brown made a pitch to bring a professional football team to Cincinnati. Mike Brown was the team's assistant general manager that year. Before the season could start, the Bengals picked 41 players through the NFL Draft that year, seven of whom were offensive linemen. The very first draft pick the Cincinnati Bengals ever drafted? Was it a running back or a quarterback to build the team around? No. It was a center in Bob Johnson from Tennessee, an even more appropriate position to build the team around.
One aspect of football that's never changed from Paul Brown giving birth to the Bengals to his son often presiding as Grim Reaper, is the importance of the offensive line. It wasn't just Ken Anderson, Boomer Esiason, Dan Ross, James Brooks, Eddie Brown, Cris Collinsworth that made the Bengals so successful in the 80s. It was guys like Anthony Munoz, Max Montoya, Bruce Kozerski, Joe Walter, Bruce Reimers and let's throw Dave Lapham in for good measure. It wasn't Carson Palmer, Chad Johnson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Rudi Johnson that made the Bengals successful in 2005. It was guys like Levi Jones, Willie Anderson, Richie Braham, Eric Steinbach and Bobbie Williams. And it was the offensive line that gave the Bengals their first 2,000-yard rushing performance in nearly ten seasons.
Although, to be completely honest, the team's offensive line has been hit or miss recently. In 2008 the Cincinnati Bengals rushing offense recorded only 1,520 yards rushing; their lowest dating all the way back to 1995. Chris Perry averaged 2.6 yard/rush, never posting an average of four yards/rush in any of his 13 games that year. The 2004 first round pick also fumbled the football five times with the opposition recovering three. The Bengals signed Benson during the season with his first action coming against the Dallas Cowboys. Even he didn't fair that much better. In his first ten games as a Bengals running back, Benson only averaged 3.1 yards/rush. It wasn't until the final two games of the year that Benson figured to be somewhat effective, rushing for 282 yards rushing against two of the league's worst defenses that year in Cleveland and Kansas City.
There are many reasons as to the team's overall rushing struggles that year. Ryan Fitzpatrick didn't play well enough for defenses to concern themselves with the pass and the offensive line was, putting it mildly, a disaster. Eric Ghiaciuc, the center from 2006-2008, was often overpowered by bigger nose tackles in the AFC North that forced running backs like Rudi Johnson and Chris Perry to make their first move well in the backfield -- and it wasn't like their first move was that effective anyway. They have yet to replace Steinbach's versatility, speed and natural pulling instincts.
Yet, from 2008 until this moment you're reading this posting, the Cincinnati Bengals have only drafted five offensive linemen. What's worse is that those draft picks have only made 21 starts between them with Anthony Collins starting 16 of them. And once you examine the drafted offensive linemen, you notice it gets worse. Otis Hudson is a project. While he was on the 53-man roster, Reggie Stephens wasn't active at all. Jonathan Luigs is already gone and you know about Andre Smith.
True, they have made changes in 2009. Nate Livings, an undrafted free agent, rotated at left guard with Evan Mathis, who was signed by Cincinnati in 2007, 17 days after the Miami Dolphins released him. Dennis Roland spent much of his career on Tampa Bay's practice squad (what is it with that team and practice squads?) before the Bengals signed him to their practice squad in 2008. He was promoted to the team's 53-man roster in mid-November of 2008, where he's been ever since.
However, the most notable change came at center when Eric Ghiaciuc was replaced by Kyle Cook, an undrafted free agent. Cook was close to replacing Ghiaciuc against the Cowboys before sustaining a foot injury and going on Injured Reserve. Since Cook took over as the team's center, the Bengals rushing offense has improved. According to Pro Football Focus, Cook scored above-average rush blocking in both seasons.
Cook will be entering free agency as an restricted free agent, which could be misleading, considering that a new Collective Bargaining Agreement could redefine the free agent classifications. Andrew Whitworth is signed through 2013, but Bobbie Williams, the team's second-best offensive lineman, will be entering the final year under contract.
If this team really wants to make changes, really wants to be successful in this league, they have to start drafting better on the offensive line. Or it won't matter if Carson Palmer stays, if the team picks up A.J. Green or whomever the offensive coordinator is. An offensive line that struggles is a team waiting to go 4-12 again.
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alot of quality O-linemen in rounds 2-5 that could start in this draft
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by Josh Kirkendall on Feb 2, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
This line needs an infusion of talent in the early rounds
I really hope round 2 goes to the O Line.. There should be some really quality players out there…
I think a guard or center in round 2 would be a great idea.
And everyone keeps talking about how we need to draft OL, but most of the mocks I see individuals putting forward on Cincy Jungle have us waiting until round 4 or 5. Not good enough. If we want a real, reliable, talented guy, we need to use that 35th pick on a high-level blocker.
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by Pardon_My_French on Feb 2, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
This is not going to make me very popular around here...
But I haven’t given up on Andre Smith. His biggest problem so far (aside from the ridiculous holdout) has been staying healthy. When he HAS been healthy, he’s shown flashes of being good – even VERY good at times. I’m keeping my fingers crossed he’s ready to go for all of the offseason workouts this year, something he has yet to do. And as long as his foot problem isn’t chronic – I’m being optimistic – it wouldn’t shock me to see him have a breakout year. Whitworth is as good of a LT as you’ll find and Kyle Cook is above average. I’m sure we’ll draft a guard high. The O-line might not be in as bad of shape as it seems is all I’m saying. Of course Andre the Giant could prove me completely wrong. Wait and see.
agreed
While I admit his laziness is a concern, when he has managed to get on the field he has shown above average run blocking ability. I think he can salvage his career and at the very least become an effective guard.
I agree he's been good
but its time to hedge our bets. Draft a OT/OG prospect in round two. We need some help at those spots anyway, so we might as well draft for it now.
Ever since Smith was put on the team, when I play Madden I instantly move him to G.
My line consisted of Whitworth LT, Smith LG Cook C, Williams RG and Anthony Collins RT. I then proceed to do nothing but run off that left side and rack up a billion yards because Andre Smith and Whitworth together run blocking would open massive holes. Then when the draft hits I draft another RG and RT and work them into the lineup. Every single draft should consist of at least 2 OL. That way when someone gets old or hurt you have a replacement. I also do this with the DL although I only draft 1 every year. Depending on which pick I have it usually goes RD 1 position of need 2,3 and 4 are used to draft OL and DL then whatever the hell else I want after that. I don’t understand how clubs don’t understand that the most important positions are OL and DL. If Peyton manning doesn’t have a good OL he is not Peyton manning!
Order of positions for o-line that need to be addressed
1- Left gaurd- Mathis and Livings have flashes, but I don’t see this o-line being truly effective until that position is improved.
2- Right tackle- I don’t think someone necessarily needs to be addressed through the draft, just the position needs stability. Either Andre Smith gets his freaking act together or, in my opinion, we start Anthony Collins. Roland is a good run blocker, but I don’t feel he has the agility to justify playing every down in the NFL.
3- I think center and right guard are interchangable at 3 or 4, but I will just say right guard here because Bobbie Williams is getting up there. We can maybe get 1-2 more years out of him, though we do need to start looking at someone who can replace him and be able to play at the same level.
4- Center- I think Kyle Cook is a good center. Strong and pretty smart, he is stuck with the fact that many fans expect another Rich Braham, which is going to be some big shoes to fill. Plenty of other things I would rather see addressed first.
5- Left tackle- Keep Andrew Whittworth. The only thing I would agree changing here is if we do find a good left tackle would be move him back to left gaurd. He DOMINATED some of the best DT’s in the league the year he was at that position.
I would move #4 to #1, and slide the rest down
This has been the most undisciplined line I have ever seen and a lot of that leadership comes from the center. I think Kyle is fine with his technique, but have seen plenty of miscues between him and Palmer. The Bengals can not afford to settle with less than pro bowl caliber play at this position if they want to be a power run offense.
I agree with everything else you said.
We’ve got Bobby for at least another solid year and then we can address that either through FA or the draft.
Whit is the only player on this line that I would put a franchise tag on when it comes down to it and I would like to say that about at least one of each position, T, G and C.
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Amen!
I don’t think keeping Andre Smith around is a bad idea, but putting the hopes on him is a bad idea. He should be a “Jerome Simpson” project.
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There are no O-Linemen in this draft
worthy of being picked #4. Saying that picking AJ Green instead of O-Lineman isn’t really fair because of the lack of an elite O-Lineman. If there was one in this draft, I think we’d all be pining for one. I think they need to look at getting one or two through rounds 2-4, particularly guys that can play Guard and Center or Guard and Tackle.
If they don't go o-line with 4th pick
it better be a DT.
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Only if it's Fairley.
If by some miracle he’s there, they have to grab him. Otherwise it should be Bowers. If Bowers is gone then they will go with Green. I still think that the way the draft is going to shake out, the Bengals will take Green.
by Anthony Cosenza on Feb 2, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Pouncey
may be worthy of top 10. He can play center or guard.
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Even Pouncey isn't rated that high
and his supposed versatility is overstated in that he wasn’t a very good center at UF this year. 2nd round- on the assumption that we never trade down, will be fine for addressing this with someone like Marcus Cannon, Ben Ijalana, or Rodney Hudson. Even in the 3rd or 4th, we could get a couple guys who seem to have something personal against defensive players, Clint Bolling and Danny Watkins. In fact, if we go Green in the 1st, I’d almost rather grab, say, Marvin Austin in the 2nd and then fill our guard needs with the nasty guys I mentioned earlier or John Moffitt in the fourth- safety being the pick in the third.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Feb 2, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Pouncy might not even be picked in the first round.
He’s DEFINITELY not worth a #4 pick. He might even still be there for us at the top of the 2nd.
Great article
I’d love to see the line improved, especially LG. It seems to me the team is still waiting for Andre Smith to turn into a durable, dependable RT before they’ll move Collins. You’ve got to have your best five guys on the line (or at the very least your best 4 G/Ts and your best center) and I don’t think Mathis or Livings is better than Collins.
Question: If Pouncey's twin brother wasn't a probowl center for the Steelers
would he even be on anyone’s radar? I watched both Pounceys and I’m not sure either of them would be a quality guard, especially in the AFCN with the likes of Ngata, Hampton, and Rogers. I’d rather see us get a big, beefed up guard (such as Cbyers’ pick of Cannon).
Maybe place Cannon at LG and possibly convert Andre Smith to RG with Anthony Collins at RT. Maybe we won’t get great guard pulling, but let’s maul the bastards up the middle and run them over with Benson! I guarentee by the end of the game, Ngata and Hampton will be worn down from getting beat up by Collins and Smith on either side of Cook.
If we get a smaller guard like Pouncey, our line will be taking the beating.
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Pouncey IS 320lbs.
but I agree about the guilt, or, rather, hype by association going on.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Feb 2, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
is he?
I thought he was closer to 300. He just doesn’t seem that big when I watch him. I guess what I’m saying then is I’d like a 340 pounder then… i dunno
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I don't see the Bengals even considering an OG in round one
But rounds 2 and 3 should be. Sure, if there’s a great steal out there then you go for it, but we need GREAT O lineman, not just decent ones. I assume Marvin does as well because he says he want to get back to the run game.
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