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Top-Five Bengals First Round Draft Picks During The Marvin Lewis Era

It just makes sense sometimes that we carve certain periods into sections. For example, there's the Paul Brown era from 1968-1990. There's the Mike Brown era from 1991-2002 and then there's Marvin Lewis era from 2003-present. Now, one could say that the Mike Brown era is still happening -- winning four games in two of the previous three seasons tends to support that rebuttal. But there is a slight difference of the Bengals from the pre-Marvin Lewis era and the existing Lewis era, considering that the team has made the playoffs twice and sported a losing record in only three of the last eight seasons. But Josh, the Bengals have only two winnings seasons in the past eight years. You couldn't have been more right, Josh. But that's more than we had in the Mike Brown era leading up to the Marvin Lewis era. Not that that is supposed to make you feel better. We're just really rambling.

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But while we do that, here's what I believe are the best first round picks since 2003 -- hence, the point of the Marvin Lewis era discussion.

5. Keith Rivers

The interceptions aren't there (two in his career). The sacks aren't there (two in his career). And it's not his tackles stand out. Simply put, he's not a big play-maker. Yet for the second straight year, Rivers finished the season ranked second on the team with 85 tackles. The question hasn't been about Rivers' production -- it's there. The question is: Has Rivers' production had the value of a ninth overall draft pick?

4. Jermaine Gresham

Drafted with the 21st pick overall in the 2010 NFL Draft, the former Oklahoma Sooners tight end missed most of his senior year with a major knee injury, which was about the only red flag Gresham had entering the Draft. Gresham finished his rookie season with 52 receptions - a rookie franchise record for tight ends - and four touchdowns, which tied Chad Ochocinco for second-most on the team.

3. Leon Hall

Tory James and Deltha O'Neal were Pro Bowl corners passing the twilights of their respective careers. And while they made big plays at times, they also allowed big plays. Either way, Hall became the second of two first round draft picks at cornerback. With 18 career interceptions, five forced fumbles and 71 passes defensed, Hall could be argued to be one of the team's best draft picks during the Marvin Lewis era -- not just first rounders.

2. Johnathan Joseph

While arguing Hall as one of the best draft picks, you might as well throw Joseph's name in the discussion. The closest thing that Cincinnati has to shutdown cornerback, Joseph has 14 career interceptions and three touchdowns and supports the run as well as any cornerback in the NFL today.

The truth is that both cornerbacks could be argued. If you wanted to swap both players for #2 and #3, would you really even notice?

1. Carson Palmer

Let's list some of the franchise records that Carson Palmer holds. Highest career quarterback rating (86.9), completions for a season (373), touchdowns in a game (6), highest quarterback rating in a season (101.1), most 300-yard games in a season (5), highest completion percentage in a career (62.9%), most passing yards in a season (4,131) and most touchdowns in a season (32). If it wasn't for his demand for a trade, Palmer had more than enough time to literally wipe every other quarterback's name from the franchise's record book.

Palmer is the only player drafted by the Bengals during the Marvin Lewis era that was voted into the Pro Bowl (note: Eric Steinbach was named as a second alternate for the 2006 Pro Bowl), earning MVP honors in his second and final Pro Bowl following the 2006 season.

Palmer is the first player drafted by Marvin Lewis and remains as the team's best first round draft pick since 2003.

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considering the other 3 first round picks didnt work

Chris Perry, David Pollack, Andre Smith…
This list look like Pro Bowlers (Not the PBA)

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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 24, 2011 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

I'm gonna give the big man

one more year before I declare him a bust. If, and that’s a big if I know, he can stay healthy, I think he’s entirely capable of locking down either that RG or RT position in a Pro Bowl manner. Just one more year, though, and I suppose the 6th pick in the draft should be making an impact from day one. Never mind.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Feb 24, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

No, Im ready to give him another year too.

And I will not give up on him until he at least plays Guard once. I thought he looked like a pro bowl guard coming out of college.

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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 24, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

+ 1

He looked just like Marcus Cannon in this year’s class looks- except, apparently, Marcus is actually serious about his conditioning.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Feb 24, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

those players

were good still waiting on andre smith, perry was injury prone but good when we ran him to the outside utilizing his speed and pollack was good just had that freak carrer ending neck injury. obviously we know that marvin has control of the first round picks though mike brown probly still has his hand in some of the other picks

by bengalsfanforlife on Feb 24, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree. i just said they didnt work out.

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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 25, 2011 6:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Hard to argue with that list.....

I think Shipley MIGHT be able to work his way ahead of Rivers at some point, but it’s not a certainty. I just think pretty highly of him.

by Stanley1 on Feb 24, 2011 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

We're just doing first rounders.

We’ll go through each round later.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Feb 24, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Just realized that.

I’m an idiot.

Move along, nothing to see here.

by Stanley1 on Feb 24, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Rivers

The thing about him is that he is exactly what they thought he would be. No more, no less. They knew he wasn’t a playmaker and wouldn’t be making the highlight reels every week. After our makeshift LB’s of 07, they wanted a consistent LB that was never out of place and could hold that spot down for the next 7-10 years. He was drafted to be the new Brian Simmons

by smoormandiddy on Feb 24, 2011 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

thank you

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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 24, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Reeeeeeach

Isn’t that argument actually an indictment of the decision to take him at #9? Do you really take someone you see as simply a role player at #9? Hmmm….

"The only thing we have to fear is, Mike Brown himself."

by DrainBamage on Feb 24, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

+ 1

Hence my thinking maybe Von Miller might be a great pick this year, even at #4. He’s no role player, a playmaker if there ever was one.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Feb 24, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm starting to consider this...

Miller just may be that LB we need. But Muck also showed some signs at the end of the season.

by WHYUS!! on Feb 24, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

But Muck is a MLB in training.

and I still have questions about whether Maualuga will ever hold down the middle. Miller is OLB all the way.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Feb 24, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

and with High picks at OLB (Rivers & Maualuga)

Unless Maualuga moves to MLB, the chances of drafting Miller are very very slim.

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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 25, 2011 6:19 AM EST up reply actions  

ill say this again. It does not matter where you select a player. As long as you dont choose a bust!

Keith Rivers is not a bust. Not even close.
The next 6 picks that year had 3 good players and 3 busts.

GOOD-
 Jerod Mayo – MLB – Pats
Ryan Clady – LT – Denver
Jonathan Stewart – RB – Panthers

BAD-
Leodis McKelvin – CB – Bills
Chris Williams – OT – Bears
Brendan Albert – OL – Cheifs

Like I said… just don’t draft a complete bust. I counted 9 complete busts from that draft. 15 Good-Role players,

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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 25, 2011 6:30 AM EST up reply actions  

and 7 pro bowlers in the 1st round

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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 25, 2011 6:32 AM EST up reply actions  

only guy on that list that makes me sad we picked him is

rivers.

and i feel like an ass for saying that. let this thought decide it for you: if rivers had been a second round pick, would he have been a solid pick?

as a first round top 10 pick, rivers hasn’t been sports car. he’s not a high profile play maker. he’s more of generic middle of the road getting the job done guy with limited high-light reel material. nothing is wrong with driving a 2008 Ford F-150 to work everyday. just with a top 10 pick you wanted a 2008 Porsche Cayman or a 2008 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 to get the job done.

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by palewook on Feb 25, 2011 8:38 AM EST reply actions  

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