Bengals Need Only Blame Themselves If Johnathan Joseph Doesn't Return
With free agent cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha likely leaving Oakland whenever free agency resumes after a resolved Collective Bargaining Agreement, the Raiders quickly sealed their other cornerback, Stanford Routt, with a three-year deal worth $31.5 million and $20 million guaranteed. This comes several days after the Denver Broncos signed Champ Bailey to a four-year deal with $43 million and $11 million guaranteed at signing.
John Thornton writes that the Raiders have, once again, screwed the Bengals, because the deal will increase Joseph's minimum demands. Consider that while Routt will receive an average $10.5 million per season, he had a particularly above average last year at best. Quarterbacks completed 42.4% of their passes against targets that Routt was covering, with a quarterback rating of 69.0, four touchdowns allowed and two interceptions. Yet, Pro Football Focus graded him out at -9.3.
Even injured with a high-ankle sprain, Joseph allowed less touchdowns and picked off more passes that Routt hasn't allowed over 100 yards receiving in any game since the third week in 2009 against Pittsburgh. Furthermore, Joseph didn't allow over 50 yards receiving in nine of the 12 games he played in 2010.
The Bengals had to know that the cost for keeping Joseph would be high this year. Consider that the Franchise Tag amounts to the medium of the top five contracts at their respective positions. And consider that only quarterbacks have a higher franchise tag amount than cornerbacks, there was no doubt that keeping Johnathan Joseph would be costly.
The problem is, the Bengals sat on their hands, watching Joseph's value increase simply with the demand of a market always looking for quality cornerbacks in a passing-dominated league. Yes, Thornton is right in saying that the Raiders screwed the Bengals again. But the bigger point that he accurately points out is that the Bengals should have been more proactive in getting Joseph signed to a long-term deal last year, specifically before New York's Jets cornerback signed a $46 million deal for $32 million guaranteed, which will send a ripple throughout free agency amongst cornerbacks starting Asomugha.
Then again, did we even really expect the Bengals to sign Joseph? Several of the team's best players have left for free agency. Such as Pro Bowler T.J. Houshmandzadeh. Such as Justin Smith, who in his two seasons with the 49ers, has made the Pro Bowl. Such as Eric Steinbach, who was a Pro Bowl alternate during the 2006 season and has yet to be replaced in terms of productivity.
But if the Bengals let Joseph leave, that can leave little doubt that the Bengals will draft a cornerback in the first round. Not only would you need to replace Joseph, but you're likely willing to let Leon Hall leave as well. Why? Most likely, depending on how he plays this year, Hall could be the most coveted free agent in the secondary this time next year. And I'll guarantee you one thing. The Bengals will sit on their hands to find out.
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My question is this.....
If we are going to trade Carson, we’ve already let TO walk, we will probably trade/release Ocho, and we might possibly let Benson walk…..where is all that money going? I’m not a big fan of letting good, young, talented players walk.
Carolina let its good vets walk
And look what happened to them.
Drafting first in the 2011 draft.
Mike Brown usually hates that for the cost. But if there is a rookie cap that really does redistribute salaries to vets, then he might be living large come 2012 with that number 1 pick of….Andrew Luck.
The man is devious.
It's going to
Carson’s huge contract, Antonio Bryant’s awesome one from last year, Chad’s, and possibly even Coles’.
by Anthony Cosenza on Feb 25, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
JJoe would be dumb
To have signed a long term deal in the last season. He knew Nnamdi was likely to be a free agent and set the market much higher in Feb 2011 than Dec 2010. He saw what happened to Chad when he signed his deal, great at the time but quickly eclipsed with much higher contracts.
So now that the market is set we’ll soon know if the Bengals really want him at market prices or if JJoe wants to find greener pastures.
It wasn't the Raiders that Screwed the Bengals.
It is MIKE BROWN that has screwed the Bengals.
What it means is he thinks the rookie salary cap will equal the average pay scale for CBs, and not a number between pick #3 and Pick #5. We ALL paintfully know Mike’s habit of sitting on his ass and waiting for the players around his picks to make their contracts up so they don’t have to use much brain power to come up with a figure. It’s always whatever it between the numbers for the other guys.
This year, he’s banking the level of play of the defense on another one of his bargain hunts. Adam Jones was cheap and is “ok”. Therefore J-Jo can go so he doesn’t have to use the franchise tag on him and pay him what he’s worth. Instead, he’s going to get his new guy in round one, for a bargain, and then do the same damn thing to Leon Hall in 2012.
Thereby losing one of the best tandemns in the NFL.
Well played, sir. Hope your bank roll swells with pride.
Sure. Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
as much as i would hate it
I can see baltimore signing him
by JCompton41 on Feb 25, 2011 12:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
losing jo-jo will be the sadest player moment in mike brown's 20 years
and its been 100% avoidable.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
PROactive vs. REactive
All good NFL teams are proactive in their pursuit/releasing of players. The Bengals are reactive, hence why they haven’t been successful. J-Joe should have been tagged, at least. It’s been implied that the tag is too expensive for the Bengals and they’d rather get a long-term deal done. It’s also been said that they are WAITING for the new CBA to get figured out. Meanwhile, while they wait, many other team’s valuable players (most are far less talented than JJ) have been tagged. The Bengals should have placed the tag on Joseph and then attempted to reconstruct a new deal for him and then removing the tag. In doing that, they would have ensured locking him up—whether it’s for a year or numerous more if/when they came to a new agreement.
My question is: if Joseph is too expensive, how much do they think a high pick on a CB will be? Say the mindset it, let’s let J-Joe walk and draft Peterson at #4 (which isn’t even a guarantee that he’d be there). How much do you think Peterson would cost? A lot. Say, instead they’re looking at getting a guy later in the draft, and relying on him, Ghee, Trent and Pacman to pick up the slack from J-Joe leaving. Is that a wise decision? I don’t believe that it is. There’s three expensive positions in the NFL, currently: QB, Left Tackle and CB. When you have a good one like J-Joe is (his injuries keep him from being great), you MUST pay them.
by Anthony Cosenza on Feb 25, 2011 1:18 PM EST reply actions
There no looking to replace jjo
The bengals thought process is let JJO go,put in Adam Jones,and role with it.You know there stupid ass’s are going to draft that wide receiver,to me thats would be the last straw
Consider him gone!
Even though he hasnt said it,given a chance to walk,who wouldnt? More cash,better team,coach, owner all just becuse the team you play for now dosnt respect your abilities.
With Mike Brown running the team,we need a coach who is about team,and team 1st,if your not a part of what’s going on then get the fuk out.The most underated thing in sports is “team” in todays sports its just about money,not love of the game,or respect for my teamates

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