Carson Palmer: I Will Never Set Foot In Paul Brown Stadium Again
by Josh Kirkendall on Mar 1, 2011 3:51 PM EST
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If there was a slight chance that Bengals franchise quarterback Carson Palmer would relent and return to the fold, then let's put some clarification on that. He has NO intention on returning to Cincinnati in a Bengals uniform. None whatsoever.
Don't believe me?
Carson Palmer, through a confidant, said that "I will never set foot in Paul Brown Stadium again."
He continued, "I have $80 million in the bank. I don't have to play football for money. I'll play it for the love of the game but that would have to be elsewhere. I'm prepared to live my life."
This comes after a Peter King report suggesting that the Bengals were at least listening to offers from other teams interested in Palmer. This also comes after the Mothership speculated that the Bengals appear to remain adamant that the team has no intention on trading Palmer.
Unfortunately for Palmer, a Collective Bargaining Agreement must be struck between the owners and players before a trade can happen. And unfortunately for Palmer, a team has to want to take on his $50 million salary for the next four years -- or at least agree to a new contract between both sides after the trade. And unfortunately for Palmer, the Bengals will likely ask for a lot.
Either way, according to the "confidant" speaking through WCPO, Palmer is done. Perhaps it would actually be nice if Palmer were the one speaking? That's asking too much? Sorry.
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So the team the Bengals trade him to will need a good backup in case they play the Bengals
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71
i realy dnt think the back-up has to be good
you think we are going to be a better team without carson
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
+1
I would love to see him play in Seattle and we pick him off 3x and sack him 4!! That would be awesome!!!
smokn something
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
The problem I have with the reliability of this quote
is the $80 million part. Unless he’s some junior Warren Buffett day-trading savant, there’s no way in hell he has that kind of money even if he’d lived on the street and eaten every meal at a soup kitchen since the day he was drafted. Factor in the wife, three kids, the home in Indian Hills, and, presumably, the one he lives in out west and it just ain’t so. Which makes me doubt the rest of the info contained therein.
If it’s true, however, then don’t let the doorknob hit you where the good lord split ya, pal.
Actually you're wrong.
Since 2003 the stock market has offered ample opportunities to lose a fortune and make a couple.
If you assume he’s had excellent investment advisors, something like $50 to $80 million in the bank is reasonable. Consider he’s pocketed a $10 million signing bonus in 2003 plus at least $60 million in compensation since then. He’s cleared at least $35 million after taxes. If he’s invested $20 million of that since 2003 he could easily be sitting on $80 million at Fidelity or Charles Schwab.
The fact these stories are going strongly in the direction of CP9 leaving suggests the Bengals believe that he’s done with them and Pro Football if need be.
Who talks through a confidant?
Is there any reason to go through sources other than his agent, or…I don’t know….himself? If I were Palmer I would have one less ‘confidant’ after today.
Fight Bengals Fatalism!
the guy didnt say anything we didnt already know
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Please Retire But Your Balls are Legend.
I wanted Palmer gone after the screwing he put us through during the Jets playoff loss. 2005 was the last year he had any value and after his injury he never recovered. I will say this about him, his balls must be the size of a house because anyone who can complain about the lack of leadership and throw 3 pick sixes during a season has huge balls. The man actually screwed our defense more than any offense we faced and he has big enough balls to point the finger. I would be happy to get a 2nd round pick for him but in all honesty he isn’t worth that and I have no fear of him going to another franchise and winning it all.
>Jets' Playoff Game
>Palmer’s fault
>Laveraneus Coles and Daniel Coats as his #2 receiver and TE
D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-DERP
u have to be a hater with that comment
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
I'll Miss you Palmer
I will miss a player who wholey invested himself into the Bengal Nation. It’s unfortunate that our owner is to stuborn to realize that things are disfunctional. In Mikey Boy’s mind everything will be ok and at least he’ll get back some cash if Carson sits out. I really hope the owners open up the Books to the NFLPA. Anyway we’d be smart to try and set up a trade for Carson but Mike Brown is an incompitent Trade negotiator so he has to wait for a deal to come to him.
Softies Speak Through Others!
BE A MAN! and trust me I hope we send this MO FO to another team we play too……Lets see how much of a man you are…..Cali Surfer Boy was never built for the MidWest anyway…….Take your soft A— back to Cali…..
by jwil007 on Mar 1, 2011 4:12 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Marvin doesnt!
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
I'm done with CP
I am tired of sticking up for him. He quit on his teammates and is not the leader we need. We have some pieces to the puzzle of winning a Super Bowl, but we need a strong leading QB and he is not it. I am tired of the whining about garbage on his lawn. He lived in Indian Freaking Hill, not some slum somewhere. THey have the Cadillac of police forces. I doubt it happened more than once. The weak crap I’m hearing about why he wants to leave ranges from garbage to gatorade, but I finally will admit that he’s got his money, now he’s quitting on his teammates, so screw him.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
You nailed this one Bonnie.
Not only did he give up on the teammates that have defended him through thick and thin when anyone questioned his elite status. He’s giving up on fans that looked at him as savior and he disappointed only for those same fans to also defend him when he was down. He only see a few sour apples that through garbage in his yard but for everyone one of those there sits 20 people that have supported him even when he may not have been deserved the support.. SCREW HIM! He just spit on the Queen City and anyone that sits here and tries to make this about Mike Brown is only supporting Carson Palmers selfishness! This decision affects the emotions of hundreds of thousands of people not just Mike Brown. Does Carson Palmer care? Nope! He’s a selfish SOB!
Unfortunately I'm going to have to admit that Blue Steel is right. :)
Carson is weak minded.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
This can also be said about bengals fans
We continue to support this loser franchise year after year just by Mikey BOY tricking us every year
Coming from Miss quitter herself
funny
by Throw the ball on Mar 1, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
You mean when I said I would go on strike if they didnt fire Bob.
They fired Bob, so I didn’t have to go on strike. That’s not the same as quitting. There was a point when I said if they kept Bob and let Carson go I was done, but they didn’t do that. They actually made a good decision by picking up Gruden and I feel they did that because of fan pressure. So sometimes it’s important to take a stand.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
Yes, by definition you were going to quit.
Honestly, what you were threatening to do isn’t much different from what Palmer is doing.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
Not true
Striking is not quitting. MB needed fan pressure in order to get rid of his buddy Bob. We gave it to him and it worked. Carson is getting new coaching that he desperately needed, but he’s still quitting on his teammates.
If they had kept Bob and let Carson go, I would have realized that MB has no interest in winning. But now I’m holding out a small amount of hope.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
And I just changed my mind on Carson within the past couple of days
After hearing all this whining about garbage. Is he that weak?
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
Mike Brown does not care about winning!
Mike Brown was scared because he was losing ticket sales which is $$$$$ and that’s all that Mikey Boy cares about
I love this post!!!
I sit back and read everyday.. I’ve decideddnot to post so much because opinions on everything are going all over the place. But I do agree that Palmer, er CP9, and his brother need be gone!
What makes them think the team will fold without them? Good for him he has millions to sit back on.. I don’t think we really give a crap!
What’s really interesting is that we haven’t heard his weak butt say anything at all specifically!! It’s always some source “close” to Palmer. Frankly I am having a hard time accepting that these were actually his words. He has never struck me as a bitter, negative, and highly opinionated person. I for one want him gone. But I want him to step up and let the words flow from his own lips!
P.S. When he says (if he said it) he will never ever set foot in PBS again, I guess it means he won’t be playing professional football. Because if he’s the starting QB for another team and has to play Cincy in Cincy, he just might have to. Oh please God, let that happen!!!
Then the fans can really show their appreciation! (Sarcasm..)
2012 - Playoff bound!!!
I'm having a hard time thinking of mess this bad EVER in the history of the league
The closest I can come to is Corey Dillon, but I’ve never seen anything THIS contentious and screwed up. An upper tier QB with a $50 million contract retiring in the prime of his career because he hates the organization that drafted him so badly? To the point where he won’t even speak to the press? To say that he will never SET FOOT in the stadium again?
I mean seriously, the league has SOME power over out of control owners, right? I mean if an owner makes 1/32nd of the league so bad that it destroys the parity of the entire league SOMETHING has to be done.
Have you watched Al Davis of late sign
Stanford Routt, Richard Seymour, John Henderson and Kamerion Wimbley to $79.5 million.?For a bunch of average NFL guys. Mike Brown at least doesn’t overpay. I give him that.
Whoever claimed CP9 wasn’t smart is dumb. Correy Dillon ran afoul of the loyality clause. Ocho was getting in trouble there too. Not CP9.
No he doesn’t call MB an idiot or buffoon. He says nothing. Instead he goes on strike because the Bengals owner is so bad he won’t play for them for $11 million in 2011 nor $50 million thru 2014. The Bengals are run so poorly he’d rather retire than play another game for the home team.
Corey Dillon couldn’t have said it better.
by BENGALS69 on Mar 1, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not buying it anymore
They got rid of Brat and Gruden looks like the real deal. They are possibly getting rid of Chad. They have been trying to sign impact players the last couple of years, but missing. However, these are players CARSON wanted. I’m sick of the whining. The truth is his wife wants to move back out west and he has plenty of money to do so. That’s why he’s leaving It’s not because of the front office, etc. If it was the front office, he wouldn’t have signed an extension with them. It’s not like he didn’t know who Mike Brown was when he signed that exension. It’s because he’s a big baby and a quitter. He’s left his teammates in the lurch. I’m done.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
My opinion based on the fact that he signed an extension
knowing full well who Mike Brown is.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
>My opinion
ding ding ding we have a winner
You’re assuming. I’m tired of this situation myself and I honestly want both sides to make up or for Palmer to leave or whatever. I just want it gone, don’t want to hear about it, don’t want to do it. But all of the players:
a) want him to come back
b) have supported him in everything he’s done
No one’s called him out (except Ocho but that seemed to be more in complaint of his own failure to escape), no one’s insulted him, you haven’t heard any angry rants or players suggesting he should be gone. You may say he signed an extension knowing who Mike Brown is so he shouldn’t quit. I say that there’s more going onto it if the teammates you say he’s abandoning (fair point, he probably is) still support him and want him back.
Because at this time the players have a bigger problem, if Carson did set this up it’s a brilliant play, cold calculated, but still genius no player’s gonna say a word negative about it while they’re providing a united front. Let a deal get done soon then we’ll see how the comments come.
I'd rather they say nothing
And just kick his ass on the field as soon as they get the chance.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
BonnieBengal . . .
Are you and I the only ones who can read between the lines here, and the fact that Carson hasn’t said one single word – not a single word.
The reason for this is because Shaelyn clearly wants out – for whatever reason(s) or no reason at all. She was born on the WC, and clearly does not want to live in Cincinnati anymore. Carson hasn’t said anything because he doesn’t want to reveal thd real reason since it would involve calling out his own wife. It clearly has nothing to do with any other reason for the simple fact that Carson would have easily addressed those reasons by now.
by The_Black_Stripes on Mar 1, 2011 5:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
While I believe Shaelyn is the REASON
behind the trade demand, I do NOT fault her. It’s merely her prerogative in choosing where she wants to live and where she wants to raise her family. I am merely speculating, based on Carson’s absolute silence regarding this entire issue, that she is behind Carson’s trade demand. If this is the case, I harbor no ill will toward her. I would, instead, point out to her that the real fans of Cincinnati do NOT dump trash in people’s yard, and that the real fans have continually and unequivocally supported her husband. My two cents
by The_Black_Stripes on Mar 1, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. That's What I See too
Being a woman, I can see if pretty clearly. If I really put my foot down about moving somewhere, my dear husband would move, even if he didn’t want to. I’ll give Carson that, but I’m ticked off that he’s appearing to blame it on the fans and the “garbage” on his lawn. And he didn’t have to keep putting up with Mike Brown for this long. He willingly signed a contract extension. So it has to be more than that.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
Why wouldn't he have signed the extension?
Did he not sign it in 2005 when it looked like things were on there way up? He sure as hell would not have signed it if he was completely aware of how Mike Brown runs this team. It’s all speculation on your end
Not buying it.
He was with the team for two years, he has an experienced agent who knows exactly who Mike Brown is (because that’s his job), and as far as I know, Carson can read, so I’m sure he read all the bad stuff about Mike Brown. It’s an easy thing to fall back on. But bottom line, he has lots of money and his wife wants to move.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
The Bengals are so poorly run, YET . .
1. Are exactly one (1) season removed from sweeping and winning the division (only AFC north team to ever sweep division).
2. Carson Palmer knowingly and willingly signed his rookie contract with the team (others -as recently as Eli Manning in 2004 – have famously boycotted teams coming out of the draft and just plain refused to play for a specific organization). Last I checked, the Bengals had the same purported dysfunctional front office.
3. Carson Palmer knowingly and willingly signed his current contract extension in 2005, which at the time made him the highest paid player in the league. No one FORCED Carson to play for the poorest run team in the league.
4. Carson Palmer openly lobbied for the known locker room cancer that is Terrell Owens. So if Palmer is so angry about the direction of the franchise, he is part responsible for shaping and defining that direction.
So essentially you’re saying that Palmer is smart enough to get paid enough money from the ‘poorest run franchise in football’, to then turn around and discredit the franchise as being ‘poorly run’ – the very same franchise that enabled him to be in such a financially stable position. What a joke!
Having said this, I don’t believe it is in Carson’s nature to speak in such absolute terms such as “Never”. As such, I’m truly skeptical with regard to the veracity of this quote. This sounds more like Shaelyn -whom I’ve said repeatedly is behind Carson’s trade request – spouting of to her friend, who in turn, relayed this quote. Except substitute “The City of Cincinnati” for “PBS”, because Shaelyn obviously doesjt play football.
by The_Black_Stripes on Mar 1, 2011 5:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
This aint Clevland,So dont act like it!
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
90 % of these poster's
the guy is the franchise,now he wants out,no one knows his reasons
Marvin= would be my reason
Chad=has been the reason for a few season’s
Mike Brown=Probably realy has nothing to do with it
Fans=See Clevland,Sam Wysche
Wife= well she is the mother of his children
Self iswhat it all points to
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
keithp
I have absolutely no idea what the hell you are trying to say – EVER. You never make any sense. What the hell are you saying?? Now, just like you Mommy (should have) told you, "Use your words . . . ".
by The_Black_Stripes on Mar 1, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Continue with your rants!
You know its his wife…….lol
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
That's not a rant, it's speculation/conjecture
Like I’ve always said it is pure speculation. Continue with your sheer inability to read, write, or comprehend the English language.
What are your thoughts, keithp, assuming you’re capable enough of forming any, which judging by your previous posts may be too much to ask you??
by The_Black_Stripes on Mar 1, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Your words hurt
Stick to your aimless thoughts! Speculation/conjecture whatever your calling it,still just a posting like any other
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
And stick to your butchering of the English language
And while you’re at it, learn the difference between “you’re” and “your”.
I think everyone’s post can be categorized, in some way, as conjecture. The truth is, all of us Bengals fans – me, you, all of us – are completely in the dark about this issue. No one knows anything for sure because Carson hasn’t said anything, which is ironically very telling (to me at least). Hence my speculation (not rant) regarding Shaelyn.
by The_Black_Stripes on Mar 1, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Would very much help if he wrote a post that defined his point of view.
He never really tells you his own opinion on the matter only that he feels yours is incorrect.
+1
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
"I promise to throw interceptions for touchdowns just as good as he did" -Jordan Palmer
by TennBengalfan on Mar 2, 2011 3:39 AM EST up reply actions
I HOPE PALMER HAS TO PAY BACK A BOATLOAD $$$$$$$$$
HE SIGNED A CONTRACT and that means thru thick and thin till death do we part…..QUITER its that simple.
he wont. All bonus money has been paid already
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by Joe Goodberry on Mar 1, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
actually, you dont recall the barry sanders situation?
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
COMPLETELY different than Barry Sanders' situation
Barry Sanders retired 4 days prior to training camp at the start the 1999 season. In his retirement statement, Barry unequivocally and unambiguously stated that he no longer had a desire to play football. In fact, many in Detroit were already aware of Sanders’ apparent disinterest in football well before his retirement. I have close friends who live in Detroit and who were Lions’ season ticket holders when Barry played, so they have explained the Sanders situation to me. Barry, by his own admission, never loved football and promptly retired when he wanted to. Rumor has it that Barry even fell asleep once on the bench during a Lions game while the defense was on the field.
Here is part of David Dunn’s statement:
“Because of the lack of success that Carson and the Bengals have experienced together, Carson strongly feels that a separation between him and the Bengals would be in the best interest of both parties.”
Dunn, a lawyer, chooses his words very wisely. Like all good attorneys (and writers), Dunn is careful to say what he (or his client) means, and to give meaning to each word. As such, there is no mention of retirement AT ALL in this statement. Furthermore, a player so keen on retirement would not use the words (i.e. “in the best interest of both parties”) that are found in this statement. Specifically, wanting a separation that is “in the interest of both parties” is NOT how a person seriously contemplating retirement speaks. The use of the phrase “interest of both parties” implies that Carson has an interest and a desire to still play football (albeit for another team). If he simply wanted to retire he would not have any (football) interests – cue, Barry Sanders. Also, If Carson wanted to retire, why mention the word “separation”? “Separation” implies a different organization, not retirement. All in all, I am of the belief that ff Carson truly wanted to retire, he would do what Barry did and just announce it. I just don’t think he would have his agent release a “separation” statement if he wanted to retire.
As such, Carson’s situation is radically different than Barry Sanders’,
by The_Black_Stripes on Mar 1, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
I would have missed ya pal...
We’re all frustrated with the state of the Bengals right now but being an ASS isn’t the answer. Way to rip off the city that supported you, I know what you can do with that 80 mil.
"We will reach heights we thought we'd never see"
Some support
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
I just want.......
one quiet offseason where we focus on signing FA’s and building our team through the draft. Year after year it’s a complete circus…….they need to trade CP9 as soon as they are able with the CBA, get rid of Chad and leave all this crap behind. This routine is getting really irritating…..
by The Van Buren Boys on Mar 1, 2011 4:43 PM EST reply actions
Why do we not hear from Palmer himself, is he that much of a coward or are these rumors, or leaks not true?
I suspect this isn't true
I mean, like it was said above, who the hell calls someone their confidant these days- or refers to himself as one for that matter. Plus, whether he has $80 million in the bank or five bucks, he’s not going to reveal that information to anyone but his wife and his accountant. But, honestly, in my heart, I hope it is true because it acts as another blow upside Mike’s thick, Mammon-worshiping skull and I have to believe eventually he’ll see the forest for the trees and get as much as he can out of the latest malcontent in Bengal nation.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Mar 1, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Its true,he released a statement
Not everyone has to be seen on t.v. everyday talking about some drama
he said what he said and thats it
he aint chad,i’m gonna,but i aint got the nutz
Palmer has Class,doesnt throw people under the bus
trade or retire
u heard it again!
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
You mean David Dunn released a statement
At the senior bowl, in which the word “retirement” was NEVER mentioned. By all accounts, Carson is very serious about his trade demand (Andrew Whitworth, who by all accounts is one of Carson’s closest friends on the team, even admitted as such). This talk of “retirement” was NEVER found in a direct quote offered by Palmer or David Dunn, and can very easily be seen as a tactic to gain leverage for his TRADE demand.
by The_Black_Stripes on Mar 1, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Chris Mortensen broke the story.
He’s one of the most reliable sources in the media. Either Palmer or Dunn used the word retirement and he reported it.
I agree with you that the THREAT of retirement was probably leaked by either Palmer or Dunn
But I view that as a rather obvious tactic to gain leverage for the trade Demand. Really, the “retirement” card is Carson’s only leverage here, and both he and Dunn are perfectly aware of that. He is under contract.
by The_Black_Stripes on Mar 1, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
David Dunn's statement was released the day AFTER Mortensen's retirement report . . .
. . . Yet Dunn’s statement NEVER mentions the word “retirement”
Timeline:
Sunday, January 23rd, 2011 (Championship Sunday): the THREAT of retirement is reported by Mort.
Monday, January 24rd (i.e. the day AFTER the Mortensen Report): Dunn releases his statement in which retirement is NEVER mentioned.
If retirement was/is a viable option, why wouldn’t DUNN mention, or at least refer to, such an option in his statement (which again was released the day AFTER the Mort “retirement” report was made????
by The_Black_Stripes on Mar 1, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
I believe Dunn's statement was merely confirming Mort's report.
The fact that he doesn’t mention retirement is moot to me because as I said he was reacting to Mort’s report in a manner that was confirming it.
Not to beat an already dead horse
but I believe Dunn’s statement was clarifying, more so than confirming, a report based on an unnamed “source”. I think the statement, and Carson’s true desire, is one of a strong and serious trade DEMAND, and less of a “serious” retirement threat.
by The_Black_Stripes on Mar 2, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
i'm kind of wondering what he will do if the teams he plays for next year plays in Cincy
does he just sit that game out?
Ha. I was thinking the same thing.
Talk about a cold reception…
I would buy a ticket to this game
I hate to say it but I really liked Palmer through the years. I think he gives us a shot to go far but now with this lack of leadership I think it’s time for us to move on. Trade him and hopefully we play him. I think our defense would love to go after him.
by BrothersOfThunder on Mar 1, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
I Don't Blame Him
If it is true it sucks for the Bengals. But, the front office is the cause of almost all of the team’s problems. I’m sure they have earned this defection with their incompetence.
palmer is a fool... about a million bucks a game worth of fool...
like all the rest of the greedy pigs in the NFL dont know what its like to be poor….how can anybody feel one bit sorry for a guy that turns down money like that.. if the money dont mean that much to him maybe he could play anyway and give it to starving kids or buy out the blacked out games for the fans or hell play just one game for me. but nooooooooo……..SELFISH QUITER.
I'm normally not to opinionated about NFL players' decisions
but this is the lowest of the low. He could have said, “I’ve grown terrified of opposing defenses and to prevent further injury to my body, I must retire.” Then he could’ve pulled a Favre and came back out of retirement. That would’ve been a hell of a lot more classy than what this vagina is doing. Palmer is one year removed from a division championship and there are teams in much worse shape than the Bengals. I guarantee he will be forever scrutinized for the cowardly way he is handling everything.
And don’t think I’m mad at him for wanting to leave, I’ve been sick of his play for the past three seasons. I just think that a person like Carson, who has had a team and city invest as much as Cincinnati has in him, owes it to the team and fans to leave without burning every bridge between Cincy and L.A.
He is also setting a great example for every future player in this league and others. If times get bad, just run and communicate through a third party like Carson did.
by elguapo09 on Mar 1, 2011 5:41 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
This.
“I just think that a person like Carson, who has had a team and city invest as much as Cincinnati has in him, owes it to the team and fans to leave without burning every bridge between Cincy and L.A.”
Amen! Rep to you.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
Return $
I am not sure how much it was, but is he required to return a pro-rated portion of his signing bonus if he does not fullfill the years of the contract? That might put a little dent in his 80.
Let's have some garbage delivered
to his new house in Cali.
(Yes I’m kidding).
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
The UPSIDE to CP9's departure is
A chance for a playoff win.
Honestly now, who thinks CP9 was going to win a playoff game? A Super Bowl? They are much better off without him. Make lemonade out of lemons.
Every player has the right to retire and CP9 is threatening to exercise his rights. Why hate him for that? He’s not happy at PBS would you have him come back and give 50% effort? 75% effort when his heart isn’t in it? They went 4-12 this season with an obviously unproductive CP9….next year would be worse, maybe 0-16. But of course they get Andrew Luck in that case.
They might get him without CP9 too.
Here is something else to consider. What about Marvin Lewis is all of this? He had to know that CP9 was very, very unhappy before he signed his new contract. I think it was Marvin Lewis’s rehire that sent CP9 to the door. Maybe CP9 couldn’t understand how a coach that went 0-10 during the season could ever be rehired(I’m with CP9 on that). Yet here sits Marvin Lewis. I think Mike Brown had a choice: keep Lewis or Palmer but not both. He picked Lewis.
Not firing Marvin
Could have definitely sent the message to Carson that Mike Brown is not willing to change even when he needs too.. However its to inexcusable to abandoned you team and your fans in the fashion he is doing. Why be apart of the problem? Why not try and be apart of the solution?
I have $80 million in the bank. I don’t have to play football for money. I’ll play it for the love of the game but that would have to be elsewhere.
This would seem to imply he has no problem renegotiating his contract.
Absolutely true!
And that is more kicks to the teeth of MB. Remember last season at a presser when CP9 was asked if would renegotiate his deal to stay in Cincy? He said no. Now for him to be traded to a team of his choosing he’d have to take less than his $11 million at Cincy.
Just shows how badly he wants out. No amount of money is worth staying in Cincy, that is the message CP9 is sending. It sucks, its cruel but it is what it is.
Oh no! there goes our hopes of a superbowl....
oh wait, Carson Palmer is mediocre.
trade him for a 2nd round pick to the 49ers and be done with it. Draft best QB available at #4 and then get to work. None of this “2nd – 3rd round” QB developmental garbage. Grab Gabbert if you can.
Please do not draft Newton. Looks like VY 2.0
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
I don't think he's mediocre
But I do think he is lacking in leadership qualities. Let’s move on.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
before we move on..
Can we agree that any QB who owns the 20th ranked QB rating and threw for the 3rd most INTs and only led his team to 4 victories is pretty mediocre?
Guy is nothing special. 2006-2007 was a looooooong time ago
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
+1
People are beginning to see the light!! I’ve been saying this for years and getting nailed for it, now those same people are leaving the Palmer bandwagon. Love it
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
"I promise to throw interceptions for touchdowns just as good as he did" -Jordan Palmer
by TennBengalfan on Mar 2, 2011 3:44 AM EST up reply actions
Poor guy...
It must have been rough for him to have to ask the cleaning staff to pick up the trash in his yard. Man has he got it rough…
by D-Day77 on Mar 1, 2011 6:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He's a SoCal boy; South Orange County at that
Have you ever been there? Laguna Beach?
If I had $80m in the bank and that were my home I wouldn’t consider stepping onto a football field again.
"Pawtucket Patriot Beer. If you drink it, hot women will have sex in your backyard."
I've lived in Newport Beach and Laguna NIguel for quite a few years.
Carson can live a dream life in Socal at the beach. He’s got a hot wife too. Plus money. Socal at the beach is as pretty a place as you’ll likely to see and CP9 has a large lot overlooking the ocean. Nice. No doubt part of the reason he’s flipping MB off.
Let me say this
If I were a family man, and my family’s well-being was contingent on the competence and success of the Cincinnati Bengals organization, I’d have demanded a trade years ago.
Carson isn’t blameless, by any means, but he isn’t the villain in this. He’s acting in rational self-interest.
I'm not saying he's a villain
I’m saying I’ve finally been convinced he’s weak minded, and not the leader we need.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
I don't necessarily disagree...
…but I don’t have a lot of faith in our ability to find a good QB, let alone one that’s strong-minded and a leader.
by Big Sky Bengal on Mar 1, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
His deferred money from his USC contract
"Pawtucket Patriot Beer. If you drink it, hot women will have sex in your backyard."
Honest to #$%^#$%^ W$#@$,
how in the heck are the Bengals the only ones to be making public statements about this? Aren’t they supposed to be a tight lipped organization?
Just repudiate it or accept what is being said as fact, Carson.
Either say you’re done, or acknowledge that we could have media problems here. Carson’s real estate agent was already able to get the news to carry a story that may or may not be true, and then we get a copy cat. 80 million is an absurd figure based on how much he’s made unless he timed the market perfectly.
Well, actually, how much stock did he have in the RunPee app? I heard that took off big.
Maybe even 80 million big lol.
I'm not saying MB's a great owner by any means
But he knew who MB was when he signed that extension and he should play his contract instead of abandoning his teammates.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
That be the only reason it would be hard.
In the end he is looking out for him and his family, and I don’t fault him for that!
a big part of me
just wants to not trade him, call his bluff, and let him retire…. the other part wants to at least get a draft pick….. whatever when the whole offense comes on the field for the next time in September when this is settled, new quarterback, whole new offensive system…. shortened camp, maybe only one preseason game…. got to draft a QB, but not sold on Cam Newton at all
Carson Palmer: I Will Never Set Foot In The NFL Again
let him retire if he wants to be that unreasonable about it. he has his money and we have his rights. bye-bye quitter.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
Can we cut his brother to send him a message?
by onehotjordan on Mar 1, 2011 7:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
nice
No, even better trade him for a dollar
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
"I promise to throw interceptions for touchdowns just as good as he did" -Jordan Palmer
by TennBengalfan on Mar 2, 2011 3:46 AM EST up reply actions
Palmer, what else?
Frankly I am tired of the Palmer drama and the crappy team management associated with this ‘franchise’. What a farce. My jerseys are gone to charity (except Munoz) and so am I. i won’t be back here again. I have had enough after 38 years of loyalty. There is more to life than rooting for (any) football team. Enjoy all, and have a great forever.
Trade him as soon as we get the chance. Close the book on this chapter and start a new one
I wouldnt want to be in the Huddle with a guy that blatantly wants out,never gonna feel like he is 100% invested again. If Gabbert/Newton falls to 4. Fuck it,take him,Id be happy to let him sit for a year and find a vet to hand the ball of and hit some short passes. is Kitna available? Idealy we could trade him to Seattle for thier 1st. We take a cant miss guy at 4 and Id be Happy with locker there or Ponder/Mallet in the 2nd or even Kapernick?dalton in 3. Personaly if we had that 2nd 1st rounder or a second second rounder,We should draft as Follows;
1. Fairly/Bowers or AJ greene(possibly look at Von Miller)
1(b) Locker or 2 Mallet/Ponder
2(b). Wisneiwski
3. Black/McDaniel or the Oklahoma S(name escapes me)
4. Hezerlich
please no Newton
guy is a meat head with below average intelligence. Vince Young 2.0 ………Mark my words.
None of the QBs in this draft get me too excited, and actually Im not sure it even matters. With the Bengals, Im sure they could have Andrew Luck fall to them next year and they would screw him up and not build a real team around him. I have such little faith in this organization that I fell they could mess up even the very best of prospects
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And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
Locker/Newton were great Leaders in College,real vocal.
Carson seems to have got quieter as his career has gone on.
I live in Oregon
and have seen Locker in person many many times. guy is good but not great. has a long ways to go with his accuracy before he can be an effective NFL QB
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
Im Done With Palmer
I cant wait till this draft. I’m sick and tired of Carson Palmer. I have always thought we need someone more vocal as a leader at the QB position. Palmer reminds of Eli Manning on when Tiki Barber says he is not a leader. But Manning did win a super bowl so I don’t know. I just want Palmer out of here and to start fresh wit a fiery QB similar to are OC. I say build the defense better and the run game fro 2011. That alone can make us very good. Then when the new and right QB comes in, he has weapons to throw to and a good defense plus run game.
we pay him all that money and now he mocks us with it...
we should keep him and bench him just to piss him off. take that!
cant bench him,if he retire's
thats not a very smart move anyway
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Hating on2 Carson Is Bizarre
Mike Brown takes your money, takes the county’s money, and delivers all the fans a garbage product since 1991, and you get incensed when Carson finally gets fed up with the bull shit.
None of us should ever, ever, EVER set foot in Paul Brown stadium ever again.
None of us should ever, ever, EVER wear a Bengals jersey every again.
Don’t talk shit about Carson, join him. Make the choice that your time and effort is too valuable to keep investing in Mike Brown.
by wordtrey on Mar 1, 2011 10:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
No.
You’re supposed to stick with the team when they suck. It’s called being a fan.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
by sexsalad on Mar 1, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
rec’d
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
"I promise to throw interceptions for touchdowns just as good as he did" -Jordan Palmer
by TennBengalfan on Mar 2, 2011 3:48 AM EST up reply actions
i agree with bonnie lest quit the bitchin and just kick ass on the fb feild
If you try and take a cat apart to see how it works, the first thing you have on your hands is a non-working cat.
by BoomerEsiason'sLoveChild on Mar 1, 2011 11:38 PM EST reply actions
I hope you are all happy
I’ve been saying it midway thru last season we need to move on from palmer, and all you defended him. How do those words taste?
Mike Brown is the true definition of a businessman:
1.Build bare essentials to run business(PB Stadium)-✔
2.Hire cheap players-✔
3.When you suck don't give in to anyone's demands-✔
4. Change is a bad thing-✔
As we all know TennBengalfan never supported Palmer
I’m ready for him to be traded to a worse team then he will realize how good he had it here, not to many teams will sign players just because you lobbied to get them.
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
"I promise to throw interceptions for touchdowns just as good as he did" -Jordan Palmer
by TennBengalfan on Mar 2, 2011 3:53 AM EST up reply actions
You've been watching too many Cam Newton interviews..
Give pizza chants.
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Mar 2, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Carson was still an active part of the team when he was being defended. IF he has said any of this then..
Its only right that we move on. I would rather he stayed but if he realy wants out then I dont want a disgruntled player in a position of Leadership on the team.
ok i wasn't going to comment on this thread but this is ridiculous.
imagine being in a relationship with somebody for 8 years and one day they say they’re through with you. sure, you might have seen the signs but you just rationalized them differently because you weren’t prepared to deal with conflict of that nature. but when that day comes—the day he/she says “i want to break up”—what are you going to do? stupid people deny reality and cling to false hope… smart people accept reality and move on. maybe we’re all just accepting that this marriage is over.
i think most of us being pretty reasonable in all of this. you aren’t though. to make this about you is f*cking idiotic. many of us were fans of his and we didn’t want to abandon him because of a bad season that wasn’t entirely his fault. sure he’s not the same Carson of old, but he’s better than 2/3 of the QBs in the league AND he was there when we swept our division the previous year. the good old days weren’t THAT far behind us. what happens when you get in a fender bender? do you pull over and set your car on fire or do you repair the damages and continue on your way? last season might have been a fender bender. with our schedule this year, i think we would have had a chance to get back to the top. WITH CARSON PALMER AS OUR QB.
i think there was a definitive point in all of this mess when all of us (CP fans or not) said to ourselves “time to get rid of him. if his heart isn’t here, why keep him? why invest our fan love into him? he’s done with us, it’s ok to be done with him.”
so you know what? my words tasted as good then as they do now. human beings are allowed to change their mind especially in reaction to specific events. you can’t fault anybody for believing in CP9 just because you didn’t.
then how can people fault me for saying we need a new QB?
I made my valid points and I was burned at the stake for it. How then can people fault me? Obviously this is a one way street. yes people are allowed to change their minds, but the point of my post was to let a few posters know(you know who you are) that going to great lengths to defend a qb who checked out a long time ago was foolish.
Mike Brown is the true definition of a businessman:
1.Build bare essentials to run business(PB Stadium)-✔
2.Hire cheap players-✔
3.When you suck don't give in to anyone's demands-✔
4. Change is a bad thing-✔
I support Carson - Mike Brown + Marvin Lewis = VOMIT Football to highest power
The worst running team in the NFL wants to run more ? meh
by bengals life on Mar 2, 2011 1:49 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Words speak to Carson's ability to lead!
Palmer is not a leader, his statements tell me that regardless of were he is or goes if the going gets tough he will just walk. His trade value is dropping with his words. If he was saying he wanted to win with a winning organization & was hungry for a ring then teams like Arizona would be ready to drop some draft picks for him, but if he will be willing to walk away from them like he is willing to do here in Cincy then why bother!!!
What a Quitter
Whitworth said it best when he said if anyone doesn’t want to be on this team, we don’t want them.
Carson will become a great announcer
in his retirement. He’s leaving Cincy with the same taste for the organization as Boomer.
Carson probably bought Gold and Silver ETF's - He is set for life. A Winner indeed.
The worst running team in the NFL wants to run more ? meh
People act like Carson's family was in danger or something
because some kid threw garbage on his lawn. He lived in Indian Freaking Hill! He was in the lap of luxury. This Northbrook girl has a hard time believing he was in danger.
Bengals Next Step (BNS)
Palmer will be starting next(?) year
Jordan Palmer. He’s a poor mans Carson athletically, but not that poor and he already is showing more leadership than Carson has in the last three years. With Gruden, Jordan will do just fine. Brat, I’m wouldn’t be so sure.
If I was the owner I would trade him to Buffalo or let him retire. The Begals went out of the way to make hime happy. Bringing his brother in, L Coles, T.O. and those are just the ones we know of. Besides leaders in the NFL SPEAK. Hell I might be in total agreement, and back him, if he would just tells us. Hiding behind sportswriters, agents and “confidants” does indicate a leader. At least a leader I would follow. If its the wife, tough, she was there when he signed the extension.
When I think of Carson and leadership I keep thinking of one play they were lining up for and Chads pulling his me me me BS. Who pushed him out to the edge to line up, not Palmer, Whitworth. I keep wondering what would have happened if Chad was suppose to line up on the right instead of the left on that play. Another blown time out.
Bengals vs Carson PBS 2011
I am simply going to love watching Dunlap going all Kimo on Carson next year @ PBS. f that Cali fag, let him go live with the softies in San Fran, what a wimp and what a douchebag. Good riddance for bad rubbish, I say.
by cincyplayoffwin2012 on Mar 2, 2011 9:13 PM EST reply actions
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