The Cincinnati Bengals Have To Start Taking The Safety Position Seriously
We've wondered for several years now if the Cincinnati Bengals just don't take the position of safety all that seriously. It's no coincidence that division foes like the Pittsburgh Steelers and Baltimore Ravens are annually a threat to win the division when they have Troy Polamalu and Ed Reed respectively patrolling the secondary.
The best Cincinnati has had to offer in the past five seasons is Roy Williams, an aging safety who is long past his prime and Chinedum Ndukwe, a safety who struggles in coverage and over-pursues against the run. Once Madieu Williams, who is probably the best safety the team has had during the Marvin Lewis era, was a free agent, the Bengals allowed him to leave because the money he was being offered from other teams caused the front office to look the other way. Just like they did with guard Eric Ghiaciuc, another position the Bengals haven't viewed with much importance.
The Bengals have drafted one safety before the sixth round of the NFL draft since Williams was selected in the second round in 2004. And that was Marvin White, who played two seasons, drafted in the fourth round of the 2007 NFL Draft.
In the meantime, the team signs aging safeties well past their prime. Dexter Jackson spent three seasons in Cincinnati, playing 29 games and never recording more than 50 tackles in a season, posting only three interceptions and eight passes defensed. Roy Williams has spent two seasons with the Bengals, signing consecutive one-year deals, playing in only half of the games due to injuries. Williams has recorded 55 tackles with the Bengals in those two seasons, posting one interception and one quarterback sack. Chris Crocker, a mid-2008 signing, has performed well enough, recording nearly 100 tackles, three interceptions and 3.5 quarterback sacks. Gibril Wilson signed a one-year deal before the 2010 season. Injured before the start of the regular season, Wilson didn't take a single snap. And there's Ifeanyi Ohalete, whose last NFL season came in 2005 during the Bengals AFC North championship season. And he was scarier as the last line of defense than Danny Graves and Francisco Cordero combined.
Cincinnati then fills its roster with late-round draft picks like Chinedum Ndukwe, Corey Lynch, Greg Brooks, John Busing and undrafted free agent signings, like Tom Nelson, Rico Murray, Kyries Hebert (originally signed as an UDFA by Minnesota), Jeromy Miles, Patrick Body and Reggie Myles. They acquire other teams' late-round draft picks like Blue Adams and Herana-Daze Jones. They sign cast-off players like Marvin White, who was already released once from the team, and Anthony Mitchell. Who? Exactly.
But what can the Bengals do?
There doesn't appear to be a safety in the NFL Draft worth taking in the first round. And the team will have to debate between a quarterback and guard in the second round, provided the Bengals go with one of the top defensive prospects or Georgia's A.J. Green. Safeties like UCLA's Rahim Moore, Oklahoma's Quinton Carter, Florida's Ahmad Black and Temple's Jaiquawn Jarrett are listed as top-100 prospects with safeties like Iowa's Tyler Sash, Clemson's DeAndre McDaniel, Nebraska's Eric Hagg and West Virginia's Robert Sands as possible mid to late round selections.
Free agency might be worse, even though (possibly) available free agents would easily start for the Bengals. Philadelphia's Quintin Mikell isn't expected to sign with the Eagles, and he's one of the better safeties that could be available whenever free agency kicks off. Mikell has averaged 90 tackles over the course of the past three seasons. And during that time, he also recorded three quarterback sacks and eight interceptions. There's Roman Harper averaging 95 tackles in his last four seasons with the New Orleans Saints. On the other hand, he's also allowed a quarterback rating of 95.0 when quarterbacks targeted receivers he was covering, including an epic three touchdowns allowed to the Seattle Seahawks in the Wild Card game last season. The Chargers are reportedly willing to let Eric Weddle leave San Diego, averaging 102 tackles over the past three seasons, posting five picks and three quarterback sacks during that span. Other possible free agents include Baltimore's Dawan Landry and Houston's Bernard Pollard (not tendered as a restricted free agent).
While there are decent players that could start for Cincinnati, the fact is that the free agent market isn't saturated with great safety talent, and therefore the demand for safeties that could start for the Bengals will be high, suggesting that cost would be more than their worth.
As it stands, Crocker and Reggie Nelson, acquired through a trade with Jacksonville before the start of the 2010 season, are the only safeties signed through 2011. Tom Nelson is an exclusive-rights free agent. The Bengals have to rebuild the position and the truth is, while versatile, Crocker and Nelson are easily upgradable.
But the Bengals have to take the position with more seriousness than they have before. Mirroring the Ravens and Steelers success, like they've talked about in the past, isn't just about a power rushing offense. It's about a franchise-level safety. Not late-round draft picks, undrafted free agents or past-their-prime veteran free agent safeties playing on one-year contracts.
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I'd actually vote for using the second-round pick
on safety over guard, mainly because there are only a couple safeties I think are worth going after overall and the guards and guard/tackle hybrids are more plentiful. I’d be comfortable taking either DeAndre McDaniel or Rahim Moore- maybe even Deunta Williams, at #35, depending on whether it’s a strong or a free safety that’s the biggest need. For some reason, I have a mental block over Reggie Nelson and what position he plays. If it’s free safety, then we draft McDaniel and, if it’s strong safety, then we go with Moore or Williams. Then, there’s that, probably, remote chance we could get Patrick Peterson in the first…?
by IgnatiusJReilly on Mar 20, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions
The overall consensus is Rahim Moore us the best, but most teams have him rated as a late 2nd – mid 3rd round.
McDaniel is actually completely off of teams boards because of past character issues. I’ve heard as high as 3rd round & as low as 6th round. So grab him somewhere in between.
Deunta Williams, because of injury could end up going 4th – 6th round.
Ahmad Black’s grade slipped because of his times, but is graded between late 3rd – 5th round.
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by Joe Goodberry on Mar 20, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
*some teams – re: McDaniel
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by Joe Goodberry on Mar 20, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
A lot of the mocks I've seen
Have Moore and McDaniel gone by the top of the third. Whether that means anything- some are so-called expert, some not, I don’t know. I would like to be sure we got Moore for instance and that would pretty much have to be at #35.
by IgnatiusJReilly on Mar 20, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
you honestly cant take much from random mocks
I would suggest to look at mocks you can trust. Look at credible sites & people. I guess that hurts ny chances… but it’s true.
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by Joe Goodberry on Mar 20, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Quote from Russ Lande
“Finished 5 more games of UCLA on Friday & like Moore and Ayers, but not in 1st Round – Mid/late 2nd rounders/high 3rd rounders in my eyes.”
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by Joe Goodberry on Mar 20, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
some of the mocks ive seen have had moore as late 1st
by JCompton41 on Mar 20, 2011 12:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Like I said to Iggy. Mocks aren’t anything unless they’re made by people who know somebody/ know how to scout/ used to scout professionaly/ or the mock is made by more than 1 person with varying opinions of players.
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by Joe Goodberry on Mar 20, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah of course
My point was just that he seems to go everywhere. Do you think he’s a reach at the top of the second?
by JCompton41 on Mar 20, 2011 1:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not if they target him
But the value isnt there. You can find a starting safety in rounds 2-5. Do you want the best one? or do you need a LG, QB, RB more? I would feel comfotbale taking him about midway through the 2nd round. Then I would feel 100% that he’s the best player available at a position of need.
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by Joe Goodberry on Mar 20, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think Moore is a good fit for AFCN
too soft v. the run. Personally, I like McDaniel, Sash and Williams. Sands is an interesting guy…really tall and rangy for a safety.
Teams have been working Sands out as OLB
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by Joe Goodberry on Mar 20, 2011 4:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Sands is going to end up being one of those 'tweeners' that has no true position
but teams will always try to ‘mold’ him into where they want him to play – and it will never work.
Fight Bengals Fatalism!
Patrick Peterson has confirmed that he IS willing to play Safety.
I’d love to get him.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
agree, however...
…It seems like lewis’s M.O. is to prefer veteran safeties for their leadership in an otherwise young secondary. This leads me to believe we will be testing the FA market
Given the positions weakness howver the Bengals definitely need some young, fresh, blood
by goffchile on Mar 20, 2011 12:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
They did try to get Taylor Mays last year.
Although I am glad that the 49ers did not want to trade out.
The Bengals would have probably lost out on Carlos Dunlap and Jordan Shipley.
And I agree that Patrick Peterson would be an incredible Safety!

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