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2011 Cincy Jungle Mock Draft - The Cincinnati Bengals Select...

For the fourth pick in the second-annual Cincy Jungle Mock Draft, our own Jason Garrison selected for the Cincinnati Bengals, who have the standard three picks available. In addition, the rest of the draft team put in their two cents afterward as well. First, however, here is the "official" pick...

With the fourth pick in the 2011 Cincy Jungle Mock Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select...

A.J. Green, WR, Georgia

The Bengals defense had a down year in 2010 (look how spoiled we are.. a No. 15 ranking is a down year for the Bengals defense). But, I think they’ll bounce back without spending a first-round draft pick on them. Instead, the Bengals No. 4 overall pick needs to go to an offensive player.

Star-divide

Even though the Carson Palmer situation screams "WE NEED A NEW QUARTERBACK NOW!" it would be foolish to draft a quarterback that isn’t worthy of a No. 4 overall pick and, in my opinion, none of them are. If Andrew Luck had come out in this draft and was available right now, I’d say go for it. Instead, I’m saying spend this pick on Georgia’s A.J. Green.

We all know Terrell Owens is not going to be a Bengal in 2011 and it’s fairly likely that Chad Ochocinco will be leaving with him. If that’s the case, and it probably is, Andre Caldwell will then be the longest tenured receiver the Bengals have. Even though Jerome Simpson exploded over the past few games of the 2010 season, it’s unclear as to whether or not he’s a one hit wonder. If he is, they’ll need Green. If he isn’t, then you have two very good receivers playing along with Jordan Shipley and Jermaine Gresham. The Bengals would have one of the best receiving corps in the NFL and that’s good for any quarterback who is taking the snaps, whether it be Palmer or somebody else, drafted later.

A.J. Green Highlights


Alternate take #1:

Joe Goodberry also put his two cents in on the matter, with an alternate pick. He selected...

Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri

I do like Jason’s pick for our Bengals and I would have made the same pick. For the sake of argument, I’ll choose Missouri QB Blaine Gabbert.

The Bengals need a quarterback and it’s no secret. Teams in the NFL cannot win without good QB play. Look at the six AFC teams in the playoffs last year. The starting quarterbacks were Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Cassel, Joe Flacco and Mark Sanchez. Who is the worst one? Maybe Sanchez, but he’s only heading into his 3rd NFL season and already has more road playoff wins than any other quarterback. Also, out of those six quarterbacks, four were former first round picks. In the NFC, four out of six starting playoff quarterbacks were first round picks.

The writing is on the wall. Take somebody who can lead this young team. Give your franchise a face again. Blaine Gabbert may not be a clear-cut "franchise" quarterback, but was Matt Ryan, Big Ben and Joe Flacco? I’d like to model the Bengals after the Atlanta Falcons. They lost their franchise QB (Mike Vick) and they were left with nothing. They chose Matt Ryan 3rd overall instead of choosing players like Glenn Dorsey and Vernon Gholston. If you remember, Ryan wasn’t a can’t-miss quarterback prospect. He had holes in his game like anybody should. The Falcons selected him anyways. They identified their franchise quarterback, built the team around him and have been in contention ever since. Blaine Gabbert can be our Matt Ryan. It starts and ends with the most important position on an NFL team. Build a team around your young QB and let him lead. The Bengals had their chance with Carson Palmer, and to be honest, it was the best eight-year stretch of the last 20. Let’s reload, rebuild and reclaim the AFC North.

Alternate take #2:

Friar Bob also put in his two cents on the matter...

I'm going to have to agree with picking A.J. Green here. If we are stuck at #4 and this situation, he's the safest pick available and the most likely to actually contribute.

But to be completely honest, I desperately want to do anything else rather than pick here. I want Mikey to grow enough of a brain to realize that in this situation he's in the absolute perfect situation to trade down a few picks and start playing around with trades. There are too many teams out there in desperate need of a QB... somebody is going to be willing to trade up to take a flier on Cam or Blaine or somebody else. For that matter, somebody might even trade up to go for Green. With proper playing of the numbers we could easily end up with two mid-first-round picks this year and/or add additional future-year picks to help us out later. But he won't do it, we know full well that won't happen.

But let's pretend for a moment that he actually did. If he did, what would I want to actually pick? The answer is absolutely blindingly obvious: offensive line. No matter who we have at QB, no matter how great a WR we do or don't have, no matter how great a RB we do or don't have, if we have the absolute pile of crap of an OL we had last year, this team is going nowhere.

But since we can't do that, and because there don't appear to be any "superstar" linemen available worthy of a #4 overall selection, I have to reluctantly agree with picking A.J. Green instead.

Draft Overview:

# Team Picked By Name/Positon of Pick
1 Carolina James Shively Nick Fairley / DT
2 Denver sexsalad Patrick Peterson / CB
3 Buffalo Elguapo09 Von Miller / OLB
4 Cincinnati Jason Garrison +2 A.J. Green / WR
5 Arizona Broski
6 Cleveland Joe Goodberry
7 San Francisco Heybrown
8 Tennessee Oxalis
9 Dallas Jim0ijk
10 Washington Pardon_My_French
11 Houston Joe27
12 Minnesota CarsonOrBust
13 Detroit The_Black_Stripes
14 St. Louis Jaegner
15 Miami JaredM
16 Jacksonville Whodatchemsit
17 New England (from Oakland / Seymour) UpStateMike
18 San Diego Quickslant
19 New York Giants TheDealio
20 Tampa Bay Doc Scratch
21 Kansas City Indesignkat
22 Indianapolis Ddbumpus
23 Philadelphia Buckeyenut12
24 New Orleans FriarBob
25 Seattle IgnatiusJReilly
26 Baltimore FriarBob
27 Atlanta TruWhoDey
28 New England UpStateMike
29 Chicago Bsmith4256
30 New York Jets Polo_614
31 Pittsburgh Jason Garrison
32 Green Bay Sean Weaver
33 New England (from Carolina / Armanti Edwards) UpStateMike
34 Buffalo Elguapo09
35 Cincinnati Jason Garrison +2
36 Denver sexsalad
37 Cleveland Jason Garrison
38 Arizona Broski
39 Tennessee Oxalis
40 Dallas Jim0ijk
41 Washington Pardon_My_French
42 Houston Joe27
43 Minnesota CarsonOrBust
44 Detroit The_Black_Stripes
45 San Francisco Heybrown
46 Denver (from Miami / Brandon Marshall) sexsalad
47 St. Louis Jaegner
48 Oakland NoodleXV
49 Jacksonville Whodatchemsit
50 San Diego Quickslant
51 Tampa Bay Doc Scratch
52 New York Giants TheDealio
53 Indianapolis Ddbumpus
54 Philadelphia Buckeyenut12
55 Kansas City Indesignkat
56 New Orleans FriarBob
57 Seattle IgnatiusJReilly
58 Baltimore Joe Goodberry
59 Atlanta TruWhoDey
60 New England UpStateMike
61 San Diego (from NYJets / Antonio Cromartie) Quickslant
62 Chicago Bsmith4256
63 Pittsburgh FriarBob
64 Green Bay Sean Weaver
65 Carolina James Shively
66 Cincinnati Jason Garrison +2
67 Denver sexsalad
68 Buffalo Elguapo09
69 Arizona Broski
70 Cleveland FriarBob
71 Dallas Jim0ijk
72 New Orleans (from Washington / Jammal Brown) FriarBob
73 Houston Joe27
74 New England (from Minnesota / Randy Moss) UpStateMike
75 Detroit The_Black_Stripes
76 San Francisco Heybrown
77 Tennessee Oxalis
78 St. Louis Jaegner
79 Miami JaredM
80 Jacksonville Whodatchemsit
81 Oakland NoodleXV
82 San Diego Quickslant
83 New York Giants TheDealio
84 Tampa Bay Doc Scratch
85 Philadelphia Buckeyenut12
86 Kansas City Indesignkat
87 Indianapolis Ddbumpus
88 New Orleans FriarBob
89 San Diego (from Seattle / Charlie Whitehurst) Quickslant
90 Baltimore Jason Garrison
91 Atlanta TruWhoDey
92 New England UpStateMike
93 Chicago Bsmith4256
94 New York Jets Polo_614
95 Pittsburgh Joe Goodberry
96 Green Bay Sean Weaver
97 (possible compensatory)

98 (possible compensatory)

99 (possible compensatory)

100 (possible compensatory)

Poll
Do you agree with this pick?
Yes, I love it!
184 votes
Good player, but not what the team needs.
174 votes
Right Position (group), Wrong Player.
5 votes
No, I don't agree at all.
93 votes
Mmm... Donuts!
23 votes

479 votes | Poll has closed

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I think it's inevitable, but i don't like this pick.

Especially with Dareus still on the board or even Bowers!

by TCfromDubVee on Mar 9, 2011 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

im begining to think the same way

I’m like 90% sure greens the pick. I guess I will have to start trying to come to terms with this now.

by JCompton41 on Mar 9, 2011 4:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree

Show me a WR that was picked in the top ten that was productive in the first couple of years. I can only think of Calvin Johnson in the past 5 or 6 years. The WR position is over hyped, they can still get a value pick in the later rounds.
If Dareus is on the board at #4, then please draft him.

by cilii_blog on Mar 9, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald. He’s also compared to Randy Moss, and he didn’t have a bad rookie season. Roy Williams also had a pretty good rookie year. It’s rare, but so is AJ Green’s ability.

On top of that, we shouldn’t be looking at rookie contributions but best player available. We’re nowhere near ready super bowl contention and should focus on getting that best player that will help get us there,

by ddbumpus on Mar 9, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

We should look years down the road?

some thought process there,i didnt realize we are a expansion team!

"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"

by keithp on Mar 9, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont get the whole ‘Green is the best prospect since…" argument. He’s a great WR prospect and all but IMO I’d say Dez Bryant was a better prospect than Green. Green is acrobatic as all get out but I could see him having problems getting off the line against more physical corners. He could stand to bulk up a bit.

Personally I think WR in the 1st round is a luxury pick. Its a pick for teams that have their QB in place and know what they’re doing on offense. For the Bengals it just makes no sense. Why would you take a guy who’s production is completely dependent on the QB when that position is in total flux? Makes no sense. that’s why I think you guys will be happy and Green will be the pick at 4 (plus Mike Brown loves him some finesse football).

by Crew Jones on Mar 10, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Very smart!

"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"

by keithp on Mar 9, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t understand why people are lusting after Dareus. He’s a “workout wonder”, he played a 3-4 DE, and nobody has a CLUE as to whether he can become a 4-3 DT or not. He might be the next Ndamukong Suh if we’re luckier than safe to imagine… but he could VERY easily be the next Jonathan Sullivan as well.

Add in our sub-standard (at best!) coaching staff in the position coach area, and I just can’t see why people think this idea has anything but disaster written all over it.

by FriarBob on Mar 9, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s not a workout wonder. He’s consistently produced at Bama from a spot (3-4 DE) that is not supposed to yield much production. He produced this year despite losing Cody on the inside and playing most the season injured. I think he’d be a frggin monster as a 4-3 DT. Quick, strong, natually plays with a low center of gravity. Of course he could go bust (so coudl any player) but drafting a stud DT like Dareus makes a helluva lot more sense than drafting a finesse WR with no QB (let alone taking a WR that’s not bigger and stronger than the CB’s he’ll be playing against like Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson and Fitzgerald). Sure, Green is tall but he’s frail. He’s not imposing or physical like those guys. Plus, by your logic (ie coaching staff etc) he could just as easily go bust as Dareus. IMO D-line and specifically Dareus should clearly be the pick over WR. WR’s are like RB’s…a dime a dozen. Finding D-lineman than can make plays in the backfield are at a premium.

by Crew Jones on Mar 10, 2011 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Good pick.

Green is the best offensive player in the draft. He or Fairley should he the pick at #4.

by Anthony Cosenza on Mar 9, 2011 4:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I think Green or Fairley is going to be the pick

I’d rather not have Green streaking past our defense when we play the Browns.

Sure. Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by UpStateMike on Mar 9, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Both JJ and Hall are faster than Green…he can jump out of the gym though.

by Crew Jones on Mar 9, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep running!

He can run fast and as hard as he wants to,if we get to his QB,maybe they can run a reverse,or some of those WR screens for him.

"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"

by keithp on Mar 9, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Inexcusable

Dareus clearly should be the pick here followed by Bowers . I know people are excited about Dunlap (rightfully so) but do not forget that only 3 teams in the NFL had less sacks in 2010 then the Bengals. Teams will adjust to Dunlap…he’ll need some help. You add another impact D-lineman (ie Dareus or Bowers) and that line is suddenly nasty and the whole D get’s better. Without, they’ll just be average and people will be again wondering why the bengals cant get to the QB. Nevermind the fact that Green is a total finesse WR in a physcial division with no QB…You can find playmakers throughout the draft at WR. They’re a dime a dozen. If you have a good QB and O-line you’ll get production out of your WR’s. Drafting Green this high would be a classic Bengals move. You dont build from the outside in. Just ask Detroit.

by Crew Jones on Mar 9, 2011 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

Dude knows what he's talking about

"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"

by keithp on Mar 10, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

i dont like the pick

but i think i wouldnt be crying if we picked him either he is good. my problem is we just need too many different stuff right now a qb dline saftey line cb(since hall next year we probly wont be able to resign him with resigning joseph). also his value add would be little look how much a wr really impacts a team sure we all would like to have an andre johnsen…etc but we have simpson who dazled us the last two games shipley who played outstanding andre caldwell who caught many game winning touchdowns in the last seconds the year we went 10-5 cosby has been called a not as good shipley should shipply suffer a concussion. look at teams who are great sure they have good wrs but its the qb and the line that make the offense. I think if a qb is not taken we take cam. the only good reason to take green is so browns dont get him. also i hope we dont take another high wr. plus look at the drafts we get our better wr from the second or latter. ocho andre shiply simpson henry housmanzadah. we have a new cordinator who cant be worse then the old one an easy schedule lets build for the future get a good qb let the good rookie wrs/te play get better safteys build both the d and o lines up and we could be a force that might get into the second round of the playoffs

by bengalsfanforlife on Mar 9, 2011 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

Insane!

I’d better get used to it,i am just not going to like what we do in the draft this year,

"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"

by keithp on Mar 9, 2011 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

just looking for some opinions from Bengals fans.

what would you do if Green, Fairley, and Quinn were the first 3 picks?

We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.

by these3words on Mar 9, 2011 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

take cam hes a stud if not

trade back into the mid to late round where the good linemen will be . or try to get more picks and stock up on next years draft

by bengalsfanforlife on Mar 9, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Peterson all day

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by Joe Goodberry on Mar 9, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

But what are you gonna do with him?

Let Joseph go? Make him, perhaps against his better judgment- and his specific ability, play safety? Make him your return man? I really do wish we had some place to comfortably fit Peterson but I just don’t think we do.

by IgnatiusJReilly on Mar 9, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

That's my only real reason not to want him.

Athletic wonder and will probably have a great career ahead of him but there’s quite literally no spot for him here.

by Doc Scratch on Mar 10, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

We wont have Joseph

as Bengals fans we should know that he’s gone

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by Joe Goodberry on Mar 14, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

and what about playing him at FS in base D

and outside in nickel D?

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by Joe Goodberry on Mar 14, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The new offense.

I would not take Newton or Gabbert with the 4th pick. Cam was in a pisto formation most of the time, how many NFL QB’s drop back then run it? Gabbert was in a spread, and I think he was always in the shot gun formation. As far as drafting Green 4th,not sure about that one either, you need WR’s who fit the system, Brats problem was he tried to fit the system to the player. Get a QB in the later rounds, like a Stanzi or Dalton. If a stud DT is there take him, Peko, IMO, sucks. Fairley or Bowers with with Sims or Atkins, we get pressure up the middle, and allow Dunlap and Johnson to rush the outside.

by B-Minus on Mar 9, 2011 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

Love this pick

Bye Chad. It hasn’t been fun. Maybe you can get on Survivor or the Amazing Race.

Bengals Next Step (BNS)

by BonnieBengal on Mar 9, 2011 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

Call me old fashioned

But you got to go o or d line. No top five picks at oline so go D. Me personally I’d try to trade down for Powncey. Face his bro twice a year. I jumped ship on gabbert. Jaws and I were goin over tape and yeahhhh, again not top five talent

by quickslant on Mar 9, 2011 5:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

this is what i thought

then we lost our qb and i looked and saw no jp will step up and who is lefevor so lets get a qb but if not i agree dline not a wr which wont help us

by bengalsfanforlife on Mar 9, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

It'd be better than taking Gabbert

And he’s not a reach pick.

Prefer a DL here.

This would be a lot easier if Palmer weren’t ‘holding out’. I’d be VERY ok seeing how a full year of Simpson/Caldwell/Shipley/Palmer would work.

Whoever the new QB is would probably appreciate Green.

I equate this pick with a welfare mom buying new rims for her car while the kids are eating spaghetti noodles with ketchup.

by PeteRoseJr on Mar 9, 2011 7:11 PM EST reply actions  

lol....thats great

"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"

by keithp on Mar 9, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we somehow lose in the process that this isn't set in stone.

People look at mocks and take them as fact, that they will indeed happen like that, and then berate the person mocking them for either ignorance about another team’s situation if they’re not a fan of said team as if they are indeed going to get stuck with that player.

It’s not set in stone guys. We are likely to get Green, but mock drafts are merely just a predicated guess at what each team takes, not a game in and of itself, which is what you guys seem to be making it out to be. :v

Just a take on it. I’m okay with Green. Once we get a QB under center for him, regardless of who it is, he might have some of the best potential in the world and this offense might chug under Gruden. Might. Too many questions, but would Newton or Gabbert really put any of you at ease? Too many conundrums to answer.

And all the while, I’m sitting here thinking that my Auburn fan friend is in my ear saying “I must lurn you” over and over again.

by Doc Scratch on Mar 10, 2011 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

Sorry, but

I don’t think anyone believes that mock drafts are real.

Bengals Next Step (BNS)

by BonnieBengal on Mar 10, 2011 7:14 AM EST up reply actions  

nope. just a way for fans to express their opinion on what direction the team should go. Taking a QB at 4 I get (eventhough I wouldnt…I think this year’s QB class is awful). D-line I get (I fall squarely into this category). Taking a WR at #4 I do not agree with. at all.

by Crew Jones on Mar 10, 2011 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Have to disagree with you about WR.

Somebody put it best somewhere in this blog. “Sometimes you just have to pick Tomlinson over Justin Smith.” Meaning, sometimes a player is so special you just have to take him before someone else does.

Bengals Next Step (BNS)

by BonnieBengal on Mar 10, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Brown does

It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain

by jim0ijk on Mar 10, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

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