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Refuting Salguero: Mike Brown Won't Trade Carson Palmer. Period

Miami Herald's Armando Salguero wrote on Wednesday that the Miami Dolphins were interested in trading for Carson Palmer when the lockout ends and that the Bengals may be "inching toward the idea of trading Palmer." We have no doubt that the Dolphins are interested in Palmer, who would probably be a decent upgrade over Chad Henne, who is the only quarterback signed through the 2011 season -- Chad Pennington and Tyler Thigpen are free agents and Tom Brandstater signed a futures contract in early January.

But Salguero's claim that the Bengals are inching closer towards trading Palmer? And Dan Marino's opinion that the Dolphins shouldn't trade more than a third round pick for Palmer? That's the line in the sand that no reasonable person is willing to support.

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Take Bengals.com author Geoff Hobson, who takes Marino's suggestion and writes that " they should take a drug test. Mike Brown giving up Palmer for only a third-rounder? Never happen. Brown giving up Palmer period? Maybe less than never."

As for the Bengals inching closer towards trading Palmer, he writes:

Three weeks ago at the NFL meetings, Brown insisted he’s not trading Palmer.  Nothing has happened since then to indicate anything has changed. This isn’t an owner who checks in on his team every once in awhile. This isn’t a GM saying it. Or even an unnamed Bengals official.

It was the day-to-day CEO of the club saying it three weeks ago in a New Orleans hotel room and putting his name to it. No trade. And this is where Brown should never get underestimated. If you back him into a corner publicly on any issue, you’re going to have a long wait. Some might call him stubborn. But most tough, principled and smart people are. You’d call Palmer that, too. But his trade request died the moment it saw the light of day.

Without Salguero suggesting that the Bengals could be willing to trade Palmer, much like his trade request, this story doesn't see the light of day. Unfortunately, save for the upcoming NFL Draft, Palmer updates remain our biggest offseason story. And theorizing beat writers are included in the mix.

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Here's the problem that I see

All of this media attention is going to force Mike Brown into a defensive stance. Instead of listening to the voice of reason – i.e. – the ENTIRE REST OF THE NFL INCLUDING NEARLY EVERY FAN – he’s going to stick by his guns.

Back off Media. The way to make this trade happen is to somehow finagle Thick in the Crown Mike Brown into thinking a Palmer Trade is HIS idea. Not Marvin’s, Jay’s, Zimmer’s, Every Assistant Coach’s, the medical staff’s, everyone’s agents, the lawyers, the other players, the waterboy and the guy who buffs the helmets before every game’s, the groundskeepers, the mailman’s, the … ok. I’ll stop now.

Best way is to have someone dress up like Paul Brown’s Ghost, stage him to appear in Brown’s bedroom and have him scare Mikey into changing his position. That actually HAS a chance.

Sure. Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by UpStateMike on Apr 7, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

If Palmer wanted out he should have taken a very public role with the NFLPA. Brown doesn’t like uppity players and he would have sent Palmer packing ASAP.

by JamesPhillips on Apr 7, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Getting tired of hearing about CP9 being traded or not traded

it’s playing with my heart and I don’t like it. I’m deciding to only worry about the draft and IF a new CBA gets passed then and only then will I worry and contemplate about Carson being traded.

by Carson'sConvicts on Apr 7, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

My prediction is that CP9 is not playing anywhere except in Cincy this year.

The big caveat is that this is only if the there is no possibility of trading him pre-draft.

Why would you trade him for 2012 picks until 2011 is over? I suppose if we could get some picks + players that could change it up a little, but I just don’t see Brown suddenly budging without a pretty immediate payoff.

by Boomer Lion on Apr 7, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Bill Billichick does it all the time.

That’s why they have 6 picks in the top 92 of this years draft.

Now, they might use those picks as leverage, but Mike Brown? He will never be able to work the wonders of the hooded one.

Sure. Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by UpStateMike on Apr 7, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never say never

Everybody is worth something and can be had at a certain price. A money-obsessed man like Brown definitely believes this. I don’t think he WON’T trade Palmer, I just think he’ll ask way too much for him. I think this all hinges on Marvin and Katie. If they can get Brown’s ear once again, then CP might be moved. The sucky thing is that it looks like they won’t get anything for him that they could use this year because of the CBA. It’s going to be interesting to see what Brown does if/when Training Camp rolls around and Palmer doesn’t show. Would he make a move at that point?

by Anthony Cosenza on Apr 7, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

If they pick Gabbert...

…then Palmer’s on the block. If they pick Green or anyone else, he sits.

by wiseking on Apr 7, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

palmer will not be traded

I don’t see how people think he will. Mike brown dosent budge. He didn’t trade chad, and won’t trade carson. Carson is his prized possesion, he isn’t giving that up.

by JCompton41 on Apr 7, 2011 3:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

"But most tough, principled and smart people are."

I haven’t been able to read a word Hobson writes for the last two years. I realize he’s an employee of the team, but come on.

by eric nyc on Apr 7, 2011 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

i laughed when i read that…

by 8sp0rts8 on Apr 8, 2011 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

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