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Answering Three Questions About The Bengals That Pro Football Weekly Posed

Alright. It's not like they asked us specifically. Pro Football Weekly, earlier this week, released the team's top three story lines (h/t bengaljohnboy) in question format, complete with their own conclusions. We decided to answer their questions with our own thoughts. Note: after the jump, there's no reference to Carson Palmer.

1. What Will Happen With Carson Palmer?

I know what you're thinking. My god, how much more do we have to endure with Carson Palmer? Having written so much about Palmer and reading twice as much since January, I couldn't agree more. But no matter how the story plays out, it will be huge. Each update just adds another chapter to what we believe could be an explosive climax in this Michael Bay production.

If Palmer retires, a franchise level quarterback just said, "I'm done." Not done playing mind you, just finished with the organization he's playing for. Your team. A player-declaration of sorts that most owners would think, "how did this go wrong and how do I fix this so it doesn't happen in the future." Since it's Mike Brown, we're not holding our breath. On the other hand, if Mike Brown relents and trades Palmer, then two things happen: The Bengals receive draft picks and a majority of Bengals fans will have to call the hospital to reattach the jaw that dropped onto the floor.

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2. Did A.J. Green Selection Signal The End Of Chad Ochocinco?

In a word: Yesno. We feel that the Bengals were through with Chad long before the team selected Georgia wide receiver A.J. Green. Marvin Lewis has bantered publicly with Chad -- to the point that we're left with no conclusion that Lewis is done with him -- and that's something he simply wouldn't do with a player he expects to play with the Bengals in 2011. Additionally NFL Network's Steve Wyche reported that the entire organization is tiring of Chad's "attention-seeking ways."

With Chad due $6 million in base salary in 2011, you could argue that lack-of-production alone would be enough of a reason. Compared to his averages from 2003-2007, Chad's production in the past three seasons has fallen by nearly 30 receptions, 570 yards and three touchdowns per season.

  Receptions Yards Touchdowns
2003-2007 92.4 1,374 8.6
2008-2010 64 806 5.7

There are obviously arguments that counters Chad fallen production; we don't ignore stuff just because it doesn't suit our arguments. For example, Chad played with Ryan Fitzpatrick through most of 2008; and Fitzpatrick didn't necessarily light it while dealing with his own problems with bad pass protection. The team redefined its core offensive philosophy into a pound-the-rock AFC North team. And the threat on the other side of the field that same season to give Chad more single coverages during passing plays? Laveranues Coles, whose greatest benefit was when the team signed Antonio Bryant claiming the title of greatest free agent bust in recent memory, if not franchise history, only caught 43 passes. Chad was literally the only threat beyond 10 yards from the line of scrimmage.

That being said, I still don't believe that Green is the direct result of Chad's eventual departure. They would have done it regardless of whom they drafted in the first round of the 2011 NFL Draft. The only difference now is that they feel more comfortable doing it.

3. Will the defense step up?

Based on what we know now, how could we say yes? Jonathan Joseph, arguably the team's best defensive player, could leave for free agency. Dhani Jones, the linebacker with nearly 500 tackles in the past three seasons, could leave for free agency. Brandon Johnson, the team's best linebacker in coverage and primary linebacker in nickel formations with 3.5 quarterback sacks and three interceptions in the past three seasons, could leave for free agency. Jonathan Fanene, one of the team's most versatile defensive lineman who posted six quarterback sacks in 2009, could leave for free agency. The team's safety roster is thin and, arguably, the weakest in the division. Tank Johnson, Domata Peko and Robert Geathers struggled while Antwan Odom missed 12 games in 2010.

Based on what we know on May 19, the defense has a lot of questions to answer before one could determine if they'll improve or devolve. But if they lose every player scheduled to enter free agency, then we can't see them improving at all.

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1. Sits for 2011 as the Bengals don’t accept a second round pick offered by Seattle or Arizona for him. Then retires. Nobody wins.

2. Yes. Bengals sign Simpson and Caldwell for the long haul alongside Green and Shipley. Can they get any value for Chad?

3. No, if JJo isn’t resigned and there’s help got at one of the safety positions (this being a bigger priority than signing Dhani Jones). Outside of JJo’s contract, the biggest question mark on D is Keith Rivers.

by wiseking on May 19, 2011 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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1.) Carson returns for one more year and plays for Cincinnati. It will be a mediocre year by his standards and his trade value will drop, but the team will be competitive and Dalton gets to take a year to get immersed in the offense, which is a major benefit with the Lockout-shortened offseason.

2.) Yes. Chad will be gone when they can dump him. Too much of a headache for too low production. Getting rid of him while drafting Green will make Palmer more comfortable with coming back for one more year, though Palmer won’t be “fine” with it.

3.) To be determined. A lot of the pieces are there, but JJoe remains the biggest. If they re-sign him (which I think they will) and play the right players at the right spots, the sky’s the limit. If they lose him and don’t find the fit for guys like Michael Johnson and Dontay Moch, then they’ll be average like last season.

by Anthony Cosenza on May 19, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

My Answers

1.Not unless we get a first for him. Let him sit and get old then dump him. Or maybe he might come back though at this point i dont want him back he has already lost the locker room. Maybe the best thing is no season for awile so we can just drop palmer.
2. Maybe. Lewis started this crap by saying he was his mopey self when chad was injured. fought constently i would say he is out though i hate to see him go. Though might keep him as a transition and maybe with his job now on the line he might actually go work hard like he used to.
3. who knows got dunlap and lb core will be good but might double dunlap and who willl be in the middle. I like dhani and is a great middle but when do we move maluga to middle. my main worry though is saftey since we dont have any good safteys.

by bengalsfanforlife on May 19, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Correct Answer's

1) I beleive the longer the lockout is,the less trade value we have for Carson
Mike Brown will not settle for no less than a first rounder,and shouldnt have to.
I’d be shocked if Carson was to come back for one year to mentor and hand over the keys.If the lockout ends soon,and there is a first round offer i say Mike B takes the trade,realizing that it is almost a now or never situation.

2) Everything points to Chad not being with the team,however we have seen Marvin and Chad kiss and makeup to the detrimit of the team before,and i would not be shocked to see something like that happen again.

3) The defense stepping up depends on a few different factors,number one is the running game and the ability to control the clock,if the gameplan is to shorten the game and limit possesions,the defense could return to 2009 form.Can the offense provide 20 points a game? Can the offense limit the turnover’s? The defense must be able to stuff the run game,create passing situations,and the secondary stay healthy.

"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"

by keithp on May 19, 2011 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Just get it

Remove money off the cap and fill in the holes is the deal. 9 nd 85 are the starting point. Its so simple. This is the story! Two old men are off the Team. If the Bengals free up cap space, then the Bengals become a force in the free agent market. How about a Saftie? How about a Off Lineman? If these two old men are gone,then the Bengas can be a force in the free agent market. This is so simple!!! Am i and Marvin Lewis the only guys who understand this point! Just get better jUNGLE!!! Become faster and give the real take!

by Chili Dog on May 19, 2011 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Marvin realy?

Marvin is the one who created the culture of dissaray,if anyone should be held accountable it would be him. Its realy hard to understand yours and Marvin’s point,brother!

"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"

by keithp on May 19, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

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