Adam Schein: Bengals Are One Of The Worst Organizations In The NFL
by Josh Kirkendall on Jun 2, 2011 12:00 PM EDT
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Here's a question of questions. If you were to judge the Bengals entire organization, where would they rank in the NFL? Would they be number one? Probably not. Even Brad Kostoff, the Pittsburgh Steelers' triple-agent fan that's hardcore into Manchester United this month, might take some convincing to see that the Bengals probably aren't the best organization in the league.
There's the questionable owner, who did the impossible task of making Chris Harrington immortal. There's our illustrious franchise quarterback, who bailed out of Cincinnati as if he accidentally watched a Matthew McConaughey film. There's the team's head coach Marvin Lewis, who is largely praised because his .472 winning percentage is actually considered a success, when factoring the team's ownership into the equation. A praise that I've admittedly handed out multiple times.
The pessimist in me says, this organization isn't in good shape. But that optimist in me says... hold on, let me find him. Just a second. Un momento. Oh yes. The optimist in me says that things will look up; there's fresh blood in the formula (offensive coordinator, quarterback, wide receiver). Both sides of the argument are freely debated in the comments, fanpost and our Facebook page.
FoxSports' Adam Schein ranks each teams organization. Now a power ranking, he warns.
We grade each team on six vital categories — owner, quarterback, head coach, front office, coaching staff and intangibles, which include facilities, fan support and public relations.
Oh dear God.
The Bengals are the northern most NFL team without an indoor practice facility. If fan support is determined by attendance, then the Bengals failed to sellout four games in 2010 and save for the annual Steelers game, they're not expected to sellout many games next season either. We would include the Browns as a sure-fire sellout if they didn't fail to sellout last season. And public relations? If there's a team that treats its fans worse than the Bengals (think free popcorn bags as the sticking point to re-upping on season tickets) we have yet to see it. And we're not exactly sure if there was popcorn in those bags. Thankfully in Schein's rankings, the intangibles only counts as one sixth of his total score.
Jesus Christ. I've turned into Brad Kostoff.
Where does Schein rank the Bengals?
29. Cincinnati Bengals: 18
Owner: 1
Quarterback: 2
Coach: 5
Front office: 1
Coaching staff: 8
Intangibles: 1Marvin Lewis' coaching staff, highlighted by defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer, helped save the Bengals from total embarrassment. Owner Mike Brown's head has been in the sand for years. The commitment to the selfish Chad Ochocinco is pathetic and counterproductive to winning. Carson Palmer is likely finished as the quarterback. And let's be honest: He held the team back last season.
What do you think? Is Schein's ranking fair?
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The Bills were in last
probably due to not making the playoffs for a much longer time than the Bengals – the Bengals generally always rank at the bottom for ownership/front office. No doubt deserved.
I can't disagree that the Bengals should rank at the bottom...
…but it does sort of look like a power ranking. With few exceptions the teams at the top, according to Shein did well last year, those at the bottom didn’t.
Also, not sure why QB is considered a factor in measuring an organization. Good ones come and go even with good organizations.
QB is the face of the franchise
or so we’re told. Ranking Palmer a “2” is just about right.
Schein has a woodie for Marvin Lewis, I listen to him on Sirius sometimes and he never rips Lewis. That guy went 10-6 then 0-10 how does he get a “5” rating? A “1” sounds right to me. That takes their total down 4 to a 14 where they wrestle with Buffalo for worst in the league. Ranking their coaching staff higher than the head coach is right too, but an “8” when Gruden is a rookie NFL OC?
Just seems generous to the Bengals.
Ranking was based on Palmer leaving
Palmer would have had to rank higher than Marvin,seeing how he has been carring his weight all these years
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Coach is Way overated
Marvin is way overated,must of kissed Schein’s ass like he does Mike b’s and Ocho’s
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
How is it that the Al Davis got better than a 1?
seriously how did he get a 3?
Nobody in football should be called a genius... A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein.
by ItsAlwaysSunnyInDayton on Jun 2, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions
he does have a ring
And hes not the fastest owner to 200 loses, or slowest to 100 wins. So that makes him a 2 or if he’s a 1 brown is a 0.
by JCompton41 on Jun 2, 2011 1:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn't call Mike Brown worse than Al Davis
He’s about as dumb as Al is crazy, so I call it a wash.
The problem isn’t so much Mike Brown the owner as it is Mike Brown the GM. His God-awful capacity as GM ought to negate any positive marks in any other category, giving the Bengals a net score of 0.
"The only thing we have to fear is... Mike Brown himself."
I agree
I don’t care if Al Davis has a ring or not (the last championship was for the ’83 season), Al Davis should be forever shamed for letting Jon Gruden go to the Bucs and then being beaten to a bloody pulp by him in super bowl XXXVII.
Nobody in football should be called a genius... A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein.
by ItsAlwaysSunnyInDayton on Jun 2, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
im just saying
Al Davis has at least show he can be successful, not recently really but even recenly he’s been better than mike brown. I’m not trying to say al davis is good by any means, I’m just saying if I had to pick either al Davis or mike brown I would pick Davis.
by JCompton41 on Jun 2, 2011 2:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Palmer held us back...
I had no problem last year or even the playoff loss to the jets to say Carson Palmer held us back, Its not that I enjoy that fact, its just the truth…Back in 2001 I though, "This is it, he’s the quarterback we need to win a championship, then as fate would have it 2005, not only did we lose to the Pittsburgh Steelers in a HOME playoff game, Palmer went out first pass(remember 55yards to Chris Henry) torn ACL god…so we all wondered "would the outcome of that game and the Superbowl, have been different if Palmer played the whole game…we’ll never know, but he had his chance another HOME wildcard game against the Jets and he sucked..interceptions, balls overthrown..so we lose again at HOME!!, last year he cost us about 6 games with his bullshit pick 6 interceptions, remember throwing to T.O. triple coverage against Pittsburgh Monday night..I’m glad he’s not coming back, lets keep hoping that one day we’ll have our Championship Year.
I think your coaching staff has/ is holding you back. The Bengals have a lot of talent on that roster that is being wasted.
If Palmer is allowed to walk and go to another team, you will see him return to his 2006 form.
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The only reason you got to root for the Bengals to win those playoff games was Carson,Must be a Clevland fan
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Yep. Sounds about right.
Don’t exactly agree with putting the QB in the mix but I understand the point of it. To be fair, guys, our coaching staff (outside of maybe positions coaches) is actually kinda good. Put them somewhere with an FO and owner that give a **** and you’ve probably got a winning team.
Let me rank it
32. Cincinnati Bengals: 8
Owner: 0
Quarterback: 1
Coach: 2
Front office: 0
Coaching staff: 6
Intangibles: 1
Since the Owner and Front Office are the same person, they deserve the same score. ZIP. Both hats can be blamed for hurting the team on so many levels that there’s no need to go into details. The team really doesn’t have an NFL ready QB, and since the QB is the de facto leader of the team, what does it say that he’s jumped ship? QB gets a 1 for Dalton, but no one will know if he can carry the load until he actually plays a couple of games. Coach gets a 2 because Lewis doesn’t have a winning record, but he’s sadly much better than previous coaches of recent memory. Lewis is responsible for not preventing the complete breakdown in 2010, where there was no unity. We can only blame TO and Chad so much. Another coach would not have put up with their off field shenanigans. Coaching Staff: ZImmer is a bright spot to be sure so he garners 2 points, as well as some of the coaches that remain post season. 2 points for firing Bratowski. 2 points for hiring Jay Gruden, someone with fresh ideas and known as a players coach. Intangibles get a 0. The players are pissed off. The fans are pissed off. The only ones who are not pissed off are the teams the Bengals play on any given Sunday.
Sure. Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
oh yeah. Thanks
That’s what I get for not adding.
Sure. Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
How in the hell are the Cardinals ranked so high?
They have the Packers ranked #1 because they just won the Super Bowl so everyone is going to kiss their behind.
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