Mike Brown: We're Not Going To Reward Carson Palmer For Walking Away From Commitment

Oh when will Mike brown learn

by trading Carson you could potentially get a 2nd rd draft pick, which we could really need why is he so stubborn? lol w/e im happy the palmer era is over and hopefully we release ochocinco/ johnson lol that would give us even more salary cap

by s.dotmoneysign12 on Jul 26, 2011 1:00 PM EDT reply actions

of course i would want to trade palmer and get a pick

But to a point I can understand why they won’t trade him. He signed a very large contract, he’s expected to honor that. And you don’t want anyone demanding a trade, so by not trading the ones that do, especially the franchise qb, you make it very unlikely that anyone will pull this again.

by JCompton41 on Jul 26, 2011 1:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

yyeah i seriously hope no one ever will

by s.dotmoneysign12 on Jul 26, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Exactly

People’s judgment is too clouded by their absolute hatred for MB, that they fail to recognize the simple logic behind MB’s stance with regard to Carson’s trade demand: simply put, you don’t want other players in the future pulling this sh#t.

Also, MB would be silly to trade CP9 now, as your return on investment is unknown at the moment. Meaning, he he did trade CP for a 1st round pick (or any draft picks), you don’t know WHERE in that round the pick will be. If you trade CP to seattle, zona, or SF, what if those teams have miraculously good seasons, and that 1st round pick is now a much later in the round?? I realize that any spot/pick in the first round would be value, but the uncertainty is something team executives want to avoid, as it creates overall uncertainty regarding the ROI (return on investment). If anything, MB may “cave-in” to CP’s trade demand AFTER the seasln, when draft picks and order are set. Still highly unlikely that MB will cave, though.

by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 26, 2011 1:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Welcome Naji

I believe the talk of the veteran QB is for backup purposes.

Here is a link to more comments from today’s presser:

http://m.bengals.com/s/5359/134?itemPos=1&fullArticles=true

Seems as if the organization has already ushered in the Andy Dalton Era, if he “can handle it” (MB’s words). Looks like they are going to force feed Andy throughout Camp with the hope that he’ll be ready as the team’s starting QB on kickoff weekend, 11 September @ Cleveland.

MB really seems sold on AD. Here’s hoping Jay Gruden can best use his talents.

by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 26, 2011 1:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

he is a solid Qb, has great leadership quality, and knows how to win (42-7 i believe lol)

very accurate the only thing is that he doesnt have that cannon that everybody wants but hey give the kid a shot

by s.dotmoneysign12 on Jul 26, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Successful NFL QB's (past and present) who dont have "cannon" arms

Joe Montana
Steve Young
Jim Kelly
Ken Anderson
Drew Brees
Tom Brady (at least coming out of college, although is arm strength has drastically improved as a Pro)
Phil Simms
And on and on and on . . .

The point is, accuracy is much more important for an NFL QB than having a cannon arm. And by all accounts, AD is plenty accurate, and has an arm “that can make all the required NFL throws”

by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 26, 2011 1:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I hate Mike Brown a lot. Tooooo much. But, living and dying by not trading Palmer is something I can appreciate. Alright, CP9 was worth a second round pick and suffered a lot with Mike Brown, but I believe there was other ways for him to get traded OR not signed the huge contract he did.
Damn, his contract is so, so big even in Madden ’11, the CPU releases him, after the first season.

by FernandoRF on Jul 26, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions

AD

If he is that sold on Dalton and MB expects him to start this season, then Dalton, not Green, should be their number 1 priority in signing of their draft picks.

by AWC71 on Jul 26, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions

hey its probably already happend but are announcing it later you never know lol

The media doesnt know everything lol

by s.dotmoneysign12 on Jul 26, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions

he is a solid Qb, has great leadership quality, and knows how to win (42-7 i believe lol)

very accurate the only thing is that he doesnt have that cannon that everybody wants but hey give the kid a shot. I think he can do it though

by s.dotmoneysign12 on Jul 26, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions

Idiocy, thy name is Mike Brown.

Imagine an alternate universe where we accepted the Ricky Williams/Saints trade, the Chad trade, and a potential Carson trade.

In real life, principle is more important than winning. In sports, winning is more important, as it’s just a game, and “principle” often means “pride.”

by Big Sky Bengal on Jul 26, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions

i feel u man

but think aobut it no one will ever do this again lol so its better for the future

by s.dotmoneysign12 on Jul 26, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions

I guarantee you

Before the 2000-teens are over, we’ll have another player demand a trade. For that matter, Chad might do it this week. All this does is rob us of draft picks and make MB look “tough.” I’d rather be real-tough on the field, as opposed to fake-tough off it.

by Big Sky Bengal on Jul 26, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions

“I’m not expecting him to be back,” Brown said. “Carson signed a contract. He made a commitment. We have relied on his commitment. We expect him to perform it here. If he doesn’t and walks away from his commitment, we aren’t going to reward him, for doing it.”

“I honestly like Carson Palmer. He was a splendid player for us,” Brown said. “He’s a good person. I wish him well and he’s retired. That was his choice.”

"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
"I promise to throw interceptions for touchdowns just as good as he did" -Jordan Palmer

by TennBengalfan on Jul 26, 2011 1:19 PM EDT reply actions

There I fixed it

“I’m not expecting him to be back,” Brown said. “Carson signed a contract. He made a commitment. We have relied on his commitment. We expect him to perform it here. If he doesn’t and walks away from his commitment, we aren’t going to reward him, for doing it.”

“I honestly like Carson Palmer. He was a splendid player for us,” Brown said. "He’s a good person. I wish him well and he’s retired. That was his choice.

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"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
"I promise to throw interceptions for touchdowns just as good as he did" -Jordan Palmer

by TennBengalfan on Jul 26, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Commitment is a two-way street

Teams can cut players at any time, thus dishonoring a commitment. I think it’s only fair that, in return, players should be able to request trades. Obviously, that doesn’t mean they’ll be guaranteed, but let’s not act like it’s some sacred bond that players are breaking. Look at the cuts in Baltimore.

by Big Sky Bengal on Jul 26, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Here is the video, at the end I like the wait and see

http://www.bengals.com/media-lounge/videos/Mike-Brown-on-Carson-Palmer-72611/a3e57219-2b3b-45ed-8e85-09df5517815a

"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
"I promise to throw interceptions for touchdowns just as good as he did" -Jordan Palmer

by TennBengalfan on Jul 26, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I cant blockquote it for some reason or reply

please fix

"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
"I promise to throw interceptions for touchdowns just as good as he did" -Jordan Palmer

by TennBengalfan on Jul 26, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions

Something or Nothing..

I stand behind Mike Brown when it comes to the whole not rewarding him by trading him. Carson knew what he was getting into and wasn’t complaining when he signed that huge extension worth millions but now its a problem. Though you must look at it as if he retires, fine, and I wish him well but then we get nothing, we lost millions of dollars for him to still not bring us a championship, but if we trade him atleast we get something. Whether it be a 1st and 3rd (unlikely) or a 2nd and a 5th (less unlikely) atleast we walk away with future draft picks and something to show for it but of course Brown doesn’t care what I think so I guess we’ll just have to hope Dalton will work out (God i hope he does).

by Dylan P on Jul 26, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions

I want to be angry with MB, but...

find myself actually admiring him for taking a stand. If he would only take his stubborn tenacity and turn it into something positive for the rest of the team. OK – enough of CP – let’s get started with the post-CP era! WHODEY!

by BengalsTom on Jul 26, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions

I have to agree

WHO DEY!!!!!!!!!!

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"I promise to throw interceptions for touchdowns just as good as he did" -Jordan Palmer

by TennBengalfan on Jul 26, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions

i agree and have said it since MB dug in

it’s too dangerous a precedent to set by allowing him to “demand” his way out with a trade. would have liked from him to pull the Boomer scenario, come back JUST to mentor AD then trade him next year, but now it looks like he’s hinting at not ever trading him (which i disagree with, just didn’t want him to cave and trade him this year)

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by TruWhoDey on Jul 26, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions

What Carson did was unprecedented, so there's really no precedence set

There probably isn’t another player in the league who is willing to retire rather than fulfill his contract for 40 million dollars, and I would be shocked if it ever happened again. I’d understand that MB might want to wait until he knows more about the draft next year before he makes a trade, but to put his foot down on the matter entirely is detrimental to the organization as a whole.

And as far as setting precedence goes, the only lasting precedence that is set in this whole debacle is further mistrust between the players and the ownership.

by Paul Cannon on Jul 26, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Paul - precedents are set AfTER the fact

By not caving to CP, MB has set the precedent (not precedence btw lol) that no player can pull a trade-me-or-I’ll retire demand again. That is the precedent. What CP did, and the circumstances surrounding it (allegedly having $80M in the bank) is unprecedented in that regard, but MB has now clearly set a precedent for all future, similar instances, no matter how unlikely it will happen.

Finally, I will submit to you and all Bengals fans that Palmer’s selfish demand is MOST detrimental to the organization. Imagine if CP were “on board” with this team and the talent that they have amassed at the offensive skill positions. They team would be in much better shape than having to count on an unproven rookie QB (and I like AD and think he will be good). Ultimately, what do young players like Geno and Dunlap think when they’ve busted their asses off this entire offseason, and their apparent “team leader” decides he wants to retire because he can afford to do so?? It is a slap in the face to all such players – maualuga, domata, and all others who busted theor collective balls all offseason for this team. I think that message sent by Palmer is more hurtful to the team than any message MB is sending.

by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 26, 2011 2:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Sorry, I just don't buy it.

You seem to admit that it is extremely unlikely for this to happen again, so why get caught up in some ridiculous ideological battle? As far as I know, this sort of demand has never happened in the NFL, and it is certainly extremely unlikely for it to ever happen again. It’s like we got rained on in the desert and so MB decided to buy some waders, an umbrella and a boat. (if you don’t like that analogy, I’ve got plenty more … lol). It doesn’t make any sense.

I agree that Palmer made the situation bad, but MB just seems to be making a bad situation worse. They might as well get something out of the deal. So if MB wants to punish Palmer he should find a way that’s not going to hurt the team as well.

by Paul Cannon on Jul 26, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions

or...

like buying Volcano insurance in Rhode Island….thanks Family Guy. ;)

by Paul Cannon on Jul 26, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Now this is a funny comment

I was literally laughing very hard when i read this post, Paul! Brilliant

by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 26, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree B-Tom

As much as I’d like to get something for Carson and kick his ass on another team, I can understand why MB won’t trade him.

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by BonnieBengal on Jul 26, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions

For once I understand

Forget a draft pick at this point, why let Palmer hold us hostage ? Things can always change so let him sit on his butt and enjoy not playing along with his shrinking “legacy” The Bengals have done everything for Palmer over the years like signing Owens and he certainly can’t complain about his contract. He could be moved in the off season or not. Let Carson enjoy his “retirement”.

by laibach on Jul 26, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions

+1

"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
"I promise to throw interceptions for touchdowns just as good as he did" -Jordan Palmer

by TennBengalfan on Jul 26, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions

earlier posts

MB is all about not wanting to set a precedent for other players in the leauge… to quit, thus forcing a trade… I think that is the whole deal here.

by txbengal29 on Jul 26, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions

has CP actually retired?

As i understand it, he is still under contract. He has not formally retired, and has not violated any terms of his agreemnet. So, I think he can still report to camp and force the Bengals to deal with him. I believe that he still has that right and obligation under his contract. Reporting to camp would seem to give him considerable leverage and force the team to cut him or trade him. Not reporting would be the first real event of contractual significance in this great drama. I can’t understand why he wouldnt report to camp.

by K312 on Jul 26, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions

Nope

The Bengals are more than $30M UNDER the cap, and that is factoring carson’s 11.5M cap hit this year. If he shows up, the Bengals can more than afford his and Dalton’s (comparatively minuscule) salary of a 2nd round pick. Carson really and truly holds no cards in this matter. Please understand the nature of the new CBA rules with regard to thd salary cap and the salary floor, before posting a comment like this. Again, if Carson shows up, the Bengals can more than comfortably fit his cap number under the new salary cap. If he decides not to show up (which is likely), then add another $11M to the $30M+ they already have, as the Bengals will place him on the retired list, and save the cap hit.

Either way, Carson holds no cards here

by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 26, 2011 1:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

unless they spend a lot this offseason

But do you think Mike brown would pay 11 mil for palmer to sit the bench?

by JCompton41 on Jul 26, 2011 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

If CP shows up (which he wont)

Then he starts. Simple as that.

by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 26, 2011 2:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

if he shows up he wont care

I agree he won’t and this is all just hypothetical, but would you start someone who dosent want to be there and wouldn’t give his all?

by JCompton41 on Jul 26, 2011 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Unless of course they want to use $10 million dollars to pay somebody to actually play football.

Not that MB is that smart. :)

by Paul Cannon on Jul 26, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions

normally I would just file this under the "mike brown is a mouth breather" section

But I actually can appreciate him forcing Palmer to retire. We wouldnt have got a 1st, and probably not a 2nd. Most likely we get a 3rd and at that point, just make him retire.

And I dont think Carson was bluffing. Retiring might not be such a bad thing, especially about what we know about concussions. Hopefully he can live with being known as a player that underachieved in the NFL and was a quitter.

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by Derftron on Jul 26, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions

Hey

I breath thru my mouth.

by BENGALS69 on Jul 26, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Wrong-headed Responses to this Issue

Look, this has nothing to do with REWARDing Palmer, Mike Brown TAKING A STAND for what’s right or Palmer holding the team HOSTAGE. Mike Brown has more than a tertiary understanding of legal contracts, and any attorney worth a damn will tell you that contracts are made to be broken (the consequences of breaking any contract is typically written in… you guessed it… the contract). Per the contract between the Bengals and Carson Palmer – Mike Brown is well within his right to force Palmer into retirement if he won’t play for the Bengals; and, while this may be legal it is still a TERRIBLE business decision.

A good business man does what’s best for his organization. Trading Palmer is what’s best for the organization. While Brown (and others posting to this blog) believes it would set a bad precedent to trade Palmer, I offer the counterargument that the bad precedent is being set by Brown for not doing what’s right for the organization. And, here’s why -

By not trading Palmer:
1.) The Bengals get nothing for their investment, and
2.) Future prospects who already see our beloved franchise as the backwater of the NFL are further reluctant to become Bengals and work for a heavy-handed owner who appears petty, vindictive and lacking in negotiating skills

I hope Brown changes his mind. I never wanted Palmer to leave, but he’s gone and we all need to deal with that reality. The time is now to do the right thing for the organization and trade him for something of value that will help this franchise become relevant again.

by Skeleton Kees on Jul 26, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions

No

Trade him for what?
No team is going to trade for a guy who is 1) threatening retirement 2) willing to walk away from $50m 3) says he already has enough money and 4) is still going to make $14m this year.
What if the Seahawks trade for him, pay him $14m, still suck and the he makes the same demands again.
If I’m a GM I wouldn’t trade a backup safety for him for his ass.

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by Evil Monkey on Jul 26, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions

I understand your point, but dont agree with it

Furthermore, the term “legal contracts” (in your post above) is a bit redundant. I have yet to see/review/sign/execute an “illegal” contract as an attorney. Unenforceable contracts are another matter, but a contract is by its very nature legal. Any two parties can contract for anything in the world, provided it’s not illegal, thereby rendering the k (lawyer speak for contract) unenforceable. Thus, no need to say “Legal contract” – contract will suffice.

Also, the rebuttal to your point, is that in MB’s eyes, like it or not, he would NOT have an organization (in the form of contracted players) if he “opens the flood gates” with Carson. So, in MB’s view, he IS doing what’s best for the organization by not yielding to the whims or player demands. Again, if he did yield, in his mind, he wouldn’t have an organization (in the form of players), as any and all future disgruntled players would, ostensibly, demand a trade due to a contract dispute or any other reason.

by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 26, 2011 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

People keep bringing up the whole "flood gates" thing

But you have to ask yourself, “Are there other players who are willing to do what Carson did?” And the obvious answer to that question is “no.” Do you think it hasn’t occurred to anybody before that they could just retire? Of course it has, but most players (a) don’t have millions upon millions saved up in the bank and (b) actually want to play football. And it’s not like if MB traded Carson that players would be knocking down his doors to retire. Most of the guys in the NFL are just happy to have a job playing a game.

Also, don’t think I’m defending Carson here, because in principal, I agree that once a contract is drawn up, the player ought to have some intention to honor it. But CP’s made his decision and the organization needs to take positive steps forward, not get stuck in some ideological battle. The difference between MB’s way and common sense is that one way the team gets a 2nd round pick and the other way the team gets nothing. That’s pretty simple math.

by Paul Cannon on Jul 26, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Really?

Thanks for over correcting me on the use of “legal contract” – I used the term once, yet you dedicate an entire paragraph to the subject. I should have known you to be an attorney.

I am sorry but the rebuttal to my point, whether it’s Mike Brown’s or yours, is not a strong one. Would you really rather have a disgruntled employee attached to the success of your business. Really? What do you have to gain by that?

Furthermore, the “flood gates” argument has no weight. Did the flood gates open when Esiason demanded and received his trade to the Jets? The short answer is no. This is a power play, nothing more nothing less.

by Skeleton Kees on Jul 26, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I understand your point, but dont agree with it

Furthermore, the term “legal contracts” (in your post above) is a bit redundant. I have yet to see/review/sign/execute an “illegal” contract as an attorney. Unenforceable contracts are another matter, but a contract is by its very nature legal. Any two parties can contract for anything in the world, provided it’s not illegal, thereby rendering the k (lawyer speak for contract) unenforceable. Thus, no need to say “Legal contract” – contract will suffice.

Also, the rebuttal to your point, is that in MB’s eyes, like it or not, he would NOT have an organization (in the form of contracted players) if he “opens the flood gates” with Carson. So, in MB’s view, he IS doing what’s best for the organization by not yielding to the whims or player demands. Again, if he did yield, in his mind, he wouldn’t have an organization (in the form of players), as any and all future disgruntled players would, ostensibly, demand a trade due to a contract dispute or any other reason.

by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 26, 2011 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Lacking in negotiating skills???

MB essentqilly fleeced all Hamilton county taxpayers when he negotiqted the stadium deal. He hardly lacks negotiating skills, quite the opposite, in fact!!

Also, talk to any reputable sports agent (I have) and they will all tell you the same thing: MB is a very talented and shrewd negotiator!

by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 26, 2011 2:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Overstated and Incorrect

First, Mike Brown did not fleece Hamilton County taxpayers. As an attorney you certainly know that it takes two sides to negotiate and Hamilton County was a willing participant in that negotiation process. The taxpayers were “fleeced” by a three-member Hamilton County board of commissioners who did not understand the terms of the contract they negotiated with the Bengals. (Perhaps Bedinghaus understood the deal was favorable to the Bengals, who knows?) Ultimately, if Hamilton County did not build a stadium for the Bengals they were looking to relocate. In the business world – that’s called “leverage.” Hamilton County made the decision to keep the Bengals in Cincinnati.

The taxpayers were also “fleeced” by a county with inadequate financial controls in place to oversee the cost of building the stadium. To this day it remains unclear who was in charge of financial oversight for the construction of the stadium. How is that even possible? The county officials were clearly negligent in their responsibilities to the taxpayers, so I ask you how that is Mike Brown’s fault and not the county officials’?

You are clearly more connected than me as I am not in contact with any sports agents, let alone “reputable” ones. Third party hearsay only goes so far, though. The ability to “shrewdly negotiate” only carries weight when you are successful. In twenty odd years I have seen a dozen signings or so where the Bengals received IMPACT players at or below market value. Is that what you want to hang your hat on? Two winning seasons in twenty plus years with two playoff games (both losses). Until Brown gets us some results I say Kraft is a “shrewd negotiator.”

by Skeleton Kees on Jul 26, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I am not

too concerned at this point. Its early and FA is just starting. Given the money involved I got to think his agent will try to work something out. There is big bucks for his agent to work a new deal elsewhere. Brown can get real value for CP9 and of course CP9 will still be paid millions with a new contract elsewhere.

For the moment though this does real damage with prospective FA’s. I mean players talk right? Having this blow up just as the Bengals are trying to court FA’s doesn’t do the team any favors. I mean here you have one of the best QB’s in Cincy history wanting out so bad he threatens to retire. Then there was the Ocho escape attempt. Why would a good FA want to stay? Why would a good one want in?

by BENGALS69 on Jul 26, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions

Who knows?

Maybe the offer comes on the table in the next two weeks that the Bengals feel they must accept. Maybe that offer comes at the end of the season. In the end, everyone has their price and there’s no harm for MB to consider what’s out there.

by wiseking on Jul 26, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions

I happen to agree with Mike Brown on this one.

We should be praising Mike Brown for having a little bit of principal in his life. Carson quit.. Don’t reward him for that.. Especially after the boat loads of cash Brown has already given this guy.. Carsons grandchildren and possible great grandchildren will see the benefits of his time in Cincinnati.. Honestly I don’t think any other team would have extended Carson for the amount that Mikey did at the time he did it… Why reward a guy for quitting and falling back on his word? The team will go on without a couple draft picks that are a crap shoot anyways..

by JamesShively on Jul 26, 2011 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Well Said.

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by BonnieBengal on Jul 26, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions

everyone listen to what john clayton says on the situatiom

That imo is what will happen, and also make the most sense for the bengals.

by JCompton41 on Jul 26, 2011 3:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

link?

by Paul Cannon on Jul 26, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions

just saw it while watching espn.

And I’m on my phone so I can’t really hunt it down.

by JCompton41 on Jul 26, 2011 3:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Don't mind telling you guys...

this has been a great bantering of viewpoints….

by BengalsTom on Jul 26, 2011 3:13 PM EDT reply actions

Mike Brown's answer that Carson needs to honor his contract is a cop-out

The Bengals cut players all the time who have contracts. IMO there is needs to be a way for a player to split out of a contract if he doesn’t want to be in it. It shouldn’t be an easy process, and maybe there should be a committee review process or something to go through.

Regardless I’m torn on the issue as I want to see Palmer play for another team, and I want my Bengals to get some value for him. At the same time it does set a good precedent for future players that you won’t be able to get out of Cincy.

I imagine this will lead to players possibly opting for shorter contracts.

by Throw the ball on Jul 26, 2011 3:30 PM EDT reply actions

Agreed

by sgiridharan1982 on Jul 26, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions

As an outside observer (other team's fan)...

I’ve noticed that Mike Brown tends to be one of those owner’s that isn’t as committed to winning as he is fielding a good product. Correct me if I’m wrong there. But it’s like the Carl Peterson years in K.C. We fielded great teams, but not playoff teams or potential Super Bowl teams except on maybe two occasions.

The smart business choice here: Trade Palmer. Regardless of whether you think others will try this in the future. Commit to building a winning team. Support your head coach fulling and let him coach. Just my 2 cents. Good luck, Bengal fans.

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by Falcon58 on Jul 26, 2011 3:50 PM EDT reply actions

That's "fully" not fulling. Sheesh.

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by Falcon58 on Jul 26, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions