Report: Bengals Release Defensive End Antwan Odom
by Josh Kirkendall on Jul 29, 2011 1:15 PM EDT
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PrintAccording to Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer, who references a league source, the Bengals have cut Defensive End Antwan Odom.
Per league source #bengals DE Antwan Odom has been releasedless than a minute ago via Twittelator 
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This (possibly) marks the end to one of the most disappointing free agent signings in franchise history. During the 2008 offseason, the Bengals signed Antwan Odom to a five-year deal worth $29.5 million with $11.5 million guaranteed after the former Tennessee Titan defensive end posted a career-high eight quarterback sacks during the 2007 season -- he had four sacks in 32 games before that.
Thanks to a collection of injuries, Odom would go on to miss 26 of a possible 48 games in a Bengals uniform, four of which resulted in a suspension for violating the league's illegal substance policy.
And when he did play, his production left a lot to be desired. Even though Odom tied a franchise-high five quarterback sacks against the Green Bay Packers (backup guard at left tackle) in 2009, the defensive end only posted six sacks in the other 21 games. Odom also missed 22 of the last 32 regular season games.
According to ESPN Senior Writer John Clayton, Odom had a $6.3 million cap number, freeing up $2.9 million upon his release. Odom was due $9.8 million over the next two seasons in base salary alone.
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cap space
do we really need to free up cap space? I thought we have a boat load of cap space to FILL up to reach the floor.
This is about not needing a player anymore. Not about freeing up cap room obviously.
What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.
Not only that but he hasn't panned out. He's too injury prone.
What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.
both resricted
Bush a 1st and 3rd and tolbert a 2nd
by JCompton41 on Jul 29, 2011 1:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
awesome
Now we can use this to offer enough to keep jjoe! Oh, nevermind.
by JCompton41 on Jul 29, 2011 1:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The Bengals no have even more of an incredible War Chest
With Antwan’s salary off the books, they have sooooooo much damn $.
Not sure what they’re planning to do with it, but geez they have cash. Will they try to coax Richie Braham, Big Willie out of retirement?? How will they spend it? Who knows!
by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 29, 2011 1:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
*Now, not no. Stupid BB
by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 29, 2011 1:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
im confused
but the Bengals made a commitment to Odom. How can MB do this and sleep at night?!
I sooooo wanted to write that
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by Josh Kirkendall on Jul 29, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Are the Bengals just going to sign every FA left?
Looks like Ray Edwards may be coming to Cincy. Maybe Cullen Jenkins? Ahmad Bradshaw? Mebane and Cro? These signings would more than make up for the loss of JJoe in my eyes.
I wonder if this cap minimum
is what we think it is?
If MB is +$40 million under the cap(and counting), there is no way he can reach it with FA signings or extensions in 2011. MB knows something we and the media don’t know.
yes
he’s planning to join forces with Al Davis and sue the league.
"At the very end, somebody took a dump right where I stood in the dugout every day." Dusty Baker
The exact figure varies, but yeah, with Odom's release this team has AT LEAST $30M in cap room.
Devote roughly $8M for combined rookie deals, and that’s still well over $20 freakin Million!!
by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 29, 2011 1:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have the same question?
I think they front loaded Greens cash to count more against this year. I believe the cap is more cash based than the prorated like in the past. Either way we have a lot of money we have to spend. Bradshaw would be interesting. CB, OG, S still needs.
by K312 on Jul 29, 2011 2:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wait what?
they were already at 34.5 (ish), then they put Palmer on PUP, freeing up 11 more, and traded chad, freeing up 6 more, then cut Odom, freeing 3 more.
so whered the heck did you get 30? It’s more like 50 right now.
"You gotta look good. Look good, you play good. Play good, pay good. Pay good, live good. Live good, y'know, eat good. Die good." - Deion Sanders
two alternatives i can think of
1. There is somehow a loophole that no one is aware of that’ll allow MB not to spend the money (maybe he’ll name himself to the squad and pay himself $20M)
2. And this is hard to believe after the JJoe and CP fiascos – and its that there is a master plan to bring in more than one big name FA that no one else knows about.
Yeah I read that
0-16 is at least a 20% probability.
they have to be at the salary FLOOR
At the end of THIS season, not next year.
And with that said, there is only so much $ that they can devote to renegotiated contracts for current players, contract escalators, and the like, that this alone would not be a huge dent in their cap number. On other words, they still will have lots and lots of money.
by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 29, 2011 1:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
they have to be at the salary FLOOR
At the end of THIS season, not next year.
And with that said, there is only so much $ that they can devote to renegotiated contracts for current players, contract escalators, and the like, that this alone would not be a huge dent in their cap number. On other words, they still will have lots and lots of money.
by The_Black_Stripes on Jul 29, 2011 1:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you are right
then MB has to shower some players with big bucks real soon. Who is left worthy of such cash?
If you are wrong, then MB has until next year to fix his roster.
Based upon what we are seeing I think it’s the later one. MB has until next year and not January 2012 to fix his roster.
Keep in mind, Palmer's salary still isn't off the books.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he keeps an 11-mil hole in it just so Palmer can’t pull a power play.
Good, more playing time for Dunlap and MJ
I agree with Doc Scratch, I think this is a defense against extortion from Carson.
That said, I hope we aren’t planning to offer Benson a mega-deal.
I've got to think........
that is what he’s doing. He’s gotta be worried about Palmer showing up later in camp……I hope we don’t give C-Benson too much $$$.
by The Van Buren Boys on Jul 29, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions
Where is all of the money going?
All we have inked is a second string lb and a washed up QB that every other team has waived. Mb is on cheap s o b and I’m sure he has found a loop hole on how to not spend that money and just stuff his mattress with it! Welcome to the future cinch fans the future of losing seasons. Oh wait thats also our past, present, and future
by Bfritts45 on Jul 29, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It sounds like Zimmer was misled, or left out of the loop
He really thought Joseph would be staying. And if he has to alter the defensive scheme to compensate…ugh.
by Big Sky Bengal on Jul 29, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not excited about it.
I get the feeling Brown’s at least looking to find something to halfway compensate but there is definitely going to be drop-off.
I agree
He is more like Hall in that he will take more risks. So he’s going to get burned every now and then, but he will also come up with some amazign plays.
by Throw the ball on Jul 29, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
have you seen cromartie tackle?
by JCompton41 on Jul 29, 2011 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nah.
Hell, we have a guy with Joseph comparisons on the roster. Ghee drew a lot of them coming out, but he doesn’t have the same ball skills as Joseph.
That interception against Buffalo was a thing of beauty.
I was always under the impression Ghee and hall were similar
Headycorners but not burners,both had some talk about eventualy panning out as FS. Without Joseph I think we lost the one corner that can go man to man with a Burner,unless they see Pacman as that type??
Brandon Ghee Scouting Report
By Matt McGuire
Strengths: Great height/length and build
Explosive speed
Good athlete with nice change of direction
Great red zone defender – protects end zone
Solid timing on jump balls
Very good in run support
Not afraid to take on a block
Physical and will deliver big hits
Outstanding at anticipating routes; instinctive
Quick hips
Can turn and run with fast receivers
Comfortable in man or zone
Highly confident
Very intriguing upside
Weaknesses:
A little raw mechanically with footwork
Doesn’t always appropriately turn head back to ball
Struggles to disengage
Should be more of a playmaker
Sometimes lacks focus; inconsistent
Will get too high out of backpedal
Summary: Ghee has some fixable attributes to his game, but he is a high upside player, and will likely be a better pro than college player. If he is impressive at the Senior Bowl and in workouts, it wouldn’t shock me if he is a first-round draft pick. Ghee has some intriguing physical tools to work with and can match up against the bigger receivers in the league. I love athletic, confident corners, but there is no doubt Ghee needs to be more polished at the next level.
Player Comparison: Jonathan Joseph. Joseph, like Ghee, has the same size and athleticism coming out of college, but he was also a little raw. Now, he is one of the better corners in the AFC.
I’ve seen comps to Joseph and Vontae Davis of the Dolphins. A lot of us wanted Davis if we couldn’t have Joseph.
Ghee has a terrific blend of size and athleticism with good height and overall speed. He’s a tough defensive back who isn’t afraid to stick his nose in on run support. Ghee’s a competitive cover-man capable of pressing receivers at the line. He’s been a productive performer during his time with the Demon Deacons.
Ghee needs to watch his pad level, which gets a little high. He takes extra step to transition, must get more out of each stride. Needs to improve his open field tackling and can be caught out of position at times. Must do a better job using his good height and long arms when separating from blockers.
Ghee is one guy
Who is hurt by the lockout. He could have used the coaching and OTA experience to grow into the position. I’m not comfortable relying on him out there without help. That gets back to the Safety shortcomings as well.
by K312 on Jul 29, 2011 2:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1243072
Yeh, Joseph and Vontae Davis. His ball skills aren’t great but we still have a guy with similar athleticism. Maybe sitting on our hands about it won’t be bad.
This confirms what I've long thought
MB decided last year he would part ways with JJoe.
Ghee was drafted and Pacman signed. One or the other would take over for JJoe and the other would fit in the nickle back.
All this back and forth about JJoe over the last week was just noise.
Sometimess you have to change schemes.
For all the Blitzing and “scheming” they barely got to the QB last year. Build a more dominant front 7 and you don’t need two spectacular corners.
agree
Need someone to be able to match up with guys like mike Wallace.
by JCompton41 on Jul 29, 2011 1:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ive always seen that deep speed is what hurst cromartie the most
Maybe I have a limited sample size but from what I’ve watched he’s not the guy to take away the randy moss type deep threat.
by JCompton41 on Jul 29, 2011 1:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Great. More cap space.
Cedric Benson is getting richer and richer every minute.
Or would be Dalton
asking for a Palmer-like contract? We all know Mikey loves rich QBs.
Now get rid of Geathers
He is just a waste and hasn’t produced besides 1 season.
by Bigline on Jul 29, 2011 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
as well as Tank Johnson. Then sign a quality DE and LB in free agency.
Jst look at what pittsburgh has accomplished with a beast front 7
and two average cornerbacks
by s.dotmoneysign12 on Jul 29, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
tell me when the bengals get a player like james harrison
And ill be on bored with some average corners.
by JCompton41 on Jul 29, 2011 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm just trying to say if you build a beast front 7 then you dont need stellar corners
thats wh we should try to pic up a good De
by s.dotmoneysign12 on Jul 29, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
+1000
It’s a better formula for success and I’ve been saying it for a while. Unfortunately, for short term success, all the front 7 FAs are flying off the market.
If Zimmer can transform our front 7
into beasts, then, i’m ok. Now, they’re slightly above average.
We've got good DEs.
That’s why Odom was cut. We just need solid depth and good LB play at this point.
I believe in our DEs.
Need better DT play. Outside of Atkins it’s average. Thomas Howard may spark something in the LBs and Rey should hopefully come to life in the middle.
I would love to see tonight
Bengals sign Nnamdi asomugha for 5 years 50 million
by s.dotmoneysign12 on Jul 29, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions
Everybody would
Just Mikey wouldn’t, so, no deal.
No way Nnamdi leaves the West Coasts black hole team
to join the midwest’s black hole.
by Throw the ball on Jul 29, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
and i would love to hit the lottery
by JCompton41 on Jul 29, 2011 2:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here in my country
lottery will pay 13 million bucks of your money (21 of ours), tomorrow.
Twitter updates
JasonLaCanfora: Bengals officially placed Carson Palmer on the Reserve/Did Not Report list today.
Clayon: With the release of A. Odom, trade of Chad O. and retirement of Carson Palmer, Bengals now have $49 M of cap room
Jesus Christ..
THERE IS NO ONE LEFT TO SIGN. He could sign Nnamdi and still be waaay under cap. He could have signed JJoe and Nnamdi.
Lots of cap space now...
…looking forward to some quality FA signings. May I introduce the newest members of your 2011 Cincinnati Bengals.
just one comment about this that makes Mike Brown seem like an @$$
Mike Brown, “We won’t trade Carson. He signed a contract with us and we expect him to and honor it. Contracts are a bond that should be honored.”
Mike Brown, “We just cut Antwan Odom. He signed a contract with us, but you know what…who cares. Contracts don’t mean diddly squat!”
Me, “Hey Mike Brown….make up your mind! Do you expect that all contracts that you sign are to be honored, or not? If not, then trade Carson asap! Geesh!”
great player....bad luck
It’s in the water @ PBS. Do not show potential greatness on a Bengals team. It will have career ending repercussions….
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