Bengals QB Dalton: It's Not the Kind of Day I Wanted to Have
by Jason Garrison on Aug 13, 2011 1:44 PM EDT
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Dalton's first pass as a professional quarterback was intended to go to his No. 1 wide receiver, rookie A.J. Green. It didn't go to Green, it went to the defense. It was sad to see Dalton's first career pass intercepted but it's not that big of a deal. I mean Brett Favre's first NFL pass was in 1991 when he played for the Atlanta Falcons and it was a pick-six. So, yeah. Not that big of a deal.
What is a bigger deal was the offense's inability to get into the end zone. If that becomes a trend this season, it doesn't matter how good the defense is, the Bengals won't be able to win many games if they can't score. And just to clarify, by many games, I mean zero games.
Dalton isn't used to not scoring points. In fact, he's not used to losing. During his career at TCU, he became one of the winningest quarterbacks in college football history. He does know, though, that there are going to be some growing pains before his transition from college to professional quarterback is complete and that what happened Friday night is what the preseason is for.
"I mean, it definitely isn't the kind of day I wanted to have. We didn't score on offense. That kind of leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I'm not used to that. I want to come in and score points every time I have the ball. There's definitely room for improvement, but I guess that's what the preseason's for -- come in and see where you are and we'll fix those mistakes when we watch the film and move on from there."
After Dalton settled down, he did get into a grove and completed some passes. He looked better than the other quarterbacks on the roster, including Bruce Gradkowski.
Now that the first game, and first loss, is under his belt, Dalton can come into Saturday night's game against the Jets a little less nervous and hopefully a little more confident that he can lead this offense. I still have confidence that he can do well as the Bengals starting quarterback. I'm just realizing now, though, that it's probably going to take a little longer than I had hoped for him to get to that point.
Hopefully that sharp winning attitude doesn't get dulled over the next few weeks.
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Dalton bounced back well........
he got his head ripped off by Suh and hopped back up, grabbed his helmet and ran the next play. With our O-line and running game, Dalton needs a lot of three step drops and get rid of the ball. He threw a couple short passes to Simpson, Green and Gresham in a row that really showcased them as weapons (YAC). That’s what the WCO is all about, so hopefully we can showcase those guys as much as possible, while also saving Dalton from D-lineman getting good shots on him.
by The Van Buren Boys on Aug 13, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions
Nate Living
nate looked like crap. And caused some unneeded pursue on dalton
by Bigline on Aug 13, 2011 2:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I agree
There needs to be some O line adjustment or someone needs to be cut…something
by ticalcaldwell on Aug 13, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
stats
Im watching the dvr now and so far livings had 1 sack given up, 1 holding penalty that nulled a 1st down in the red zone, and at least 6 plays where he was just blocking air… Not an nfl caliber guard… So why is he still on the team? Paul alexander, who should be fired as an o line coach.
by Bigline on Aug 13, 2011 2:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
simply put
Its like the 2010 season never left, and still is upon us. 4-13. Way to go dude. Keep on losing. I, WHODEY NATION, the BENGAL Facebook community is tired of losing. Bottom line GET RID OF MARVIN LEWIS. Someone put BROWNS old ass in a nursing home. You can talk about, debate it on a talk show WE NEED not only talent on the team but a talented staff also. When is comes to commentary DONT PROTECT …….CORRECT! We need to correct the errors in Cincinnati. PRE season or NOT! Dude, how do you lose to the DETROIT LIONS like that? Wait until the JETS game were gonna get crushed.
when did the league turn to 17 games?
by bengalinflorida on Aug 13, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He was tacking this loss onto last year's record...
Its like the 2010 season never left, and still is upon us.
by Boomer Lion on Aug 13, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Dalton played poorly, it's as
simple as that.
He had no vision down the field at all.
All he could do was see the field 5 to 10 yards down field.
Part of that was pressure and part due to being a rookie starting his first game.
None of this is surprising and none of it tells us who he will be 4 months from now.
Dalton I give slack too as he’s being put in an impossible situation and expected to win games. It just won’t happen in September, maybe in December.
What was embarrassing was Marvin Lewis fielding a team clearly not ready to play in the preseason. Detroit embarrassed the starters all during the first quarter. Schwartz knew how to get his guys ready in training camp. After 9 seasons, Marvin Lewis still hasn’t learned.
it's a west coast offense
it is based around short passes, of course it’ll only go about 5 or 10 yards. don’t hate on Dalton for doing what he is told to do. Marvin should have done some more work on the special teams, the new guys on defense were weak spots, and the receivers did leave something to be desired, but the explosive plays need some time to appear, and as for right now, lets just do the basics right and get more complex around when the season actually starts.
Flying is as simple as throwing yourself at the ground and missing
There is nothing more basic
than having Green run a go route and Dalton throw it to him down the sidelines. They weren’t trying to be fancy or tricky last night, just execute the basics taught in the abbreviated off-season. Dalton showed he can be accurate with a quick delivery for the short stuff. So far I haven’t seen him throw a deep ball with velocity.
Doing just the basics proved too hard for these Bengals. Not so much for the Lions.
I dunno
I saw him hit AJ Green for 5, and miss a wide open Gresham streaking down the middle. It’ll come, but probably missed some downfield opportunities
AGREE!!!!!!
You hit it right on the head with your last paragraph………..Im on board. It was embarrassing and we did field a team of clowns. I mean come on here, besides the few carries CED had what did we do right!? On either side of the ball!? Were NOT expecting DALTON to win the game for us, were expecting the team to win. Our defense was ……..i cant even put it into words. BAD!!!!! Enough said. I will NOT be watching the JETS n BENGALS game. that will be a blood bath.
WCO is about moving the ball with short passes BUT
if you don’t take your shots down field then you score 3 points in 1 half. The defense will play 8 or 9 in the box if short is all you are about.
Don’t forget Dalton’s first pass was intended to be a bomb to AJ Green. You don’t need him to get 5 to 10 yard pass completions. Green is there for the deep ball.
Dalton has to continue to sling the ball. After the INT he shut that part of the game down. Maybe because the coaches told him. Mabye because he stopped looking down field because he was worried about getting hit by Suh.
He did take a shot downfield, it was intercepted
And when he threw that pass, he was hit by Suh so he didn’t have everything behind it. He’s not a guy who can get hit and still make a 40 yard throw.
Dalton will get it together
Dalton started off bad but he showed an upside. I believe he was just nervous. The O line didnt help much. But he started to look much better after the 1st qtr. He will need time to grow. I believe they would have scored if Livings didnt get that holding penalty when they got in the red zone. I believe its good film for them to watch and learn from. Got to remember Dalton, AJ, Finley and a the rest of the rookies havnt played at the NFL level and they are being ask to come in and start. So now they’ve seen how fast the game is and they can be ready next week. STILL GOT FAITH IN THE YOUNG BENGALS!!!! WHO DEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm somewhat confident.....
that Dalton can be an adequate starting QB in the NFL at some point…..but guys, we are going to struggle this year. Too many players at skill positions adjusting to life in the NFL. Doesn’t matter how talented you are, when your QB and #1 WR are both rookies…..when you next two best receivers (Simpson/Shipley) are VERY young with limited experience…..when your best TE (Gresham) is in his second year…..when you oline is adequate at best, and your RB isn’t a big play guy…..you are going to struggle. Period. There is no way around that.
I want to be as optimistic as the next guy…..but last night showed just how young we are on offense. And while the defense has a chance to be a top 15 defense, they have work to do as well. Can we be as good without JJ? I’m not sure.
There were some positives...
After looking at the game again this morning, I focused on the interior and saw some positives. Andre Smith and Bobbie Williams were tremendous in run blocking and opened up some good holes for Ced. Even the Detroit commentators said that they had not seen plays run at Suh with this much success. Ced’s going to have some success this year running to his right. Whitworth had a very good game keeping a very good Kyle Vanden Bosch out of the backfield. Andy Dalton looked like a rookie QB with two weeks of practice under his belt, but he made improvements during the game and while it’ll take most of this season to define him, I’m confident that he has what it takes to be a good NFL QB. He didn’t get rattled and kept his poise even after getting body slammed by Suh. On Defense, Rey Maualuga looked comfortable and fast in the middle. He was quick to the ball and didn’t seem to over pursue the play. Manny Lawson did a good job keeping the TE out of action, which has been a weakness in this defense in past years.
A lot to work on, but some positives also. That’s why it’s pre-season.
Dalton a rookie on 2 weeks of practice
already looks as good at this point as Carson Palmer did last year with a full off-season. Their is something to be hopeful for.
Really? We went 4-12 with Carson.
I bet we can go 4-12 with the rookie Dalton. Not much of a drop off…
Yes.....
comparing the teams’ record from year to year is the best way of comparing QB’s, and how “good” they are at any given time.
lol, and comparing a rookie qb after his first preseason game on a shortened off season with a new OC, only 2 weeks of practice and poor pass protection
is a sound way of measuring your new qb. give the guy a chance, i think it will come together.
What does that have to do with anything I said?
The above poster said Dalton was as good today as Carson. I disagreed.
poised
he did well agaisnt their subs which he won’t be facing this sept.
our guardsare bad, very bad.
Manny lawson is horrible. he froze on the first series running play and got beat on a drop.
Overall very very bad
Yup.
There are areas where Dalton obviously needs to improve, but, it isn’t his fault he got drafted by a team that couldn’t care less about interior OL. (or interior DL—hey, MB, look at the Lions for an example of why flashy positions like WR aren’t as important as, say, having an elite DT)
by Big Sky Bengal on Aug 13, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
he's saying that the Lions sucked big time when they only had flashy WR's...
And their moving up the ladder after a few good years of drafting. If Stafford stays healthy, they could be contending for their division this season!
i understand
but their flashy receiver gave our db leon “the drum” Hall ( cause he gets beat like one) quite a beating. Well so did their not so flashy receiver.
The receivers they drafted were not so flashy until they did draft a falshy one in johnson.
Their other first round pick receivers sucked.
I was for going line in the draft, but Green is here till he becomes a fa.
Then he will go elsewhere per usual.
Lawson and Howard seemed to be in thinking mode rather than react mode, a lot of flat footed standing while guys were making moves. Micheal Johnson really stood out to me I can say he is an improvement over Odom, Victor Adjengo(#95)? is a waste of a roster spot he should be gone once Fanene gets into camp. Not both guards just Livings don’t know how he’s still here? Must have some thing on Mike Brown, Marvin or Paul!
That's to be expected, then.
Two LBs just signed and having to learn a new system. They’re probably not at a point where they just flat-out react yet.
This Leon Hall thing is funny they showed it once but never again, while the ball was in the air Calvin pushed off, Leon stumbled from it and complained to the ref, but he wasn’t hearing it even with it being so obvious. The Burleson catch was just a good play! Keep your head up Leon! Brian Leonard is a fullback who can catch he needs to work on his blocking as a running back he’s not good and it showed last night. Livings should be replaced asap his holding call on that screen play was Sir Charles would say “Terrible”, as was he and Cook’s ole’ on the Cory Williams sack just “Terrible”!
Watching Cleveland vs Packers
Clowns run their first series perfectly. WCO done to perfection. Colt McCoy looks vastly better.
by BENGALS69 on Aug 13, 2011 7:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
exactly
to all the dalton haters, give him some time
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
by shortstopv2 on Aug 13, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahahahaaha
Same ole Bungals… nothing will change as long as Mike Brown is in control. I feel sorry for you fans. I can’t believe all the justifications and false hope I am reading here. It’s actually sad. So much delusion.
by buzz628 on Aug 13, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
dammit
i had actually reached a point where i had forgotten about you.
by Doc Scratch on Aug 13, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, what?
Does he have a different account that I don’t remember? Because that’s his first comment on that account.
Miguel Cairo is so last week.
The avatar gives him away.
I don’t remember the name of his original account but there was some other asshole running around with the same avatar preaching about how we’re all hopeless and delusion and he’s moving on yet he still loves the team or some other cockney rubbish.
by Doc Scratch on Aug 14, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
no matter how hard you try
interventions take time.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Aug 14, 2011 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
This team will never win with the line play on both sides of the ball.You have to rush the QB and we never do that.You have to protect the QB and we don’t do that either.Our defensive line play has been terrible for years. This is a passing game now and you have to put pressure on the QB,but we draft a wr and a QB that we can’t protect.
Fisher Price
Atkins is turning into a stud and if Dunlap where healthy right now, i think we might not be so down on the pass rush. It’ll turn into something, it just needs some time. As for the O-line, yeah we got blasted in the interior, as we should have expected, but i think we are only about two players inside away from having one that actually does some work.
Flying is as simple as throwing yourself at the ground and missing
by bill schwab on Aug 14, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Now lets hope they do something about it.
Nate Livings not only allowed at least 1 sack, but his hold on the B Leonard leap and battle for the first down (Which I watched multiple times as it was so beautiful… until that damned yellow flag) completely killed what could have been a scoring drive. Leonard worked his ass off to get that first down and Livings killed it. This guy has got to go. Lets hope they try and get Boling or Jean-Gilles some snaps or find a replacement for Livings in free agency if any are available.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Aug 14, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
A concern
I don’t think I am worried at this point. Yes, I would have wanted a win or at least a competitive game. but I am mindful that “IT’S PRE-SEASON”. First time lacing i up in front of fans, and all that. Clearly there was some nervousness. Let us not forget that the new Offensive Coordinator is involved here too! I do remember clearly that the first play from scrimmage under Bratkowski always seem to be a long pass… Shame on you Marvin if that was your call. So Offensively, we will see.
Now the real concern is DEFENSE! The offense is not responsible for the scoring by the other team. Yes, field position does come into it, and yes, an interception can play in too. But 1 interception… ONE!!!
The rest falls on Zim’s Defense. They were torched in the air, both on intermediate and deep routes! The ability to stop the other teaam is “MY” concern.
If the Offense starts putting points on the board, I gotta say I’m scared because of a lack of confidence in the “D”.
As I said, this “IS” pre-season. We can all pick on just about every part of the game and castrate almost everyone. But I am reluctant to vilify anyone at this point. I’m staying on the “wait n see” train.
2012 - Playoff bound!!!
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