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The Bengals have started the 2011 preseason and they've done it without the former quarterback that need not be named. The offense is now being led by Andy Dalton, who, despite the ugly 34-3 loss to the Lions on Friday, looked pretty good once he got in a groove.

So, there's no need to ever talk about that old quarterba.......... NOOOOO!

Somehow, that old quarterback, Carson Palmer, seems to make his way into the news and onto this website. I don't like it either. 

According to a Tweet from Dennis Janson of Cincinnati's WCPO, Palmer isn't happy with how the Bengals are treating his little brother, Jordan Palmer, who is competing against Dan LeFevour for a spot on the team as a third-string quarterback.

Carson Palmer tells friend, #Bengals are toying with brother Jordan. Few reps etc. Expects him to be cut but too late to sign elsewhere.less than a minute ago via web Favorite Retweet Reply

Since Dalton played the entire first half of the game against the Lions on Friday, backups Bruce Gradkowski, Jordan Palmer and Dan LeFevour had to split up the second half. Gradkowski, understandably, got most of the work, and Palmer and LeFevour only played about a series each.

Now, if you're beginning to get angry, like me, click the jump.

Star-divide

I call bullshit, Carson Palmer.

Since you decided to bail on the Bengals and go home to watch football on TV, I don't think what the team does with its quarterbacks, including your brother, is much of your business anymore.

Besides, how much playing time do you expect your brother to get? He's a backup to the backup and the only way he will be on the field in the regular season would be because something awful happened and the first two quarterbacks were incapacitated. Coming out of the longest work stoppage in NFL history with a rookie quarterback, the Bengals will need to give as much playing time as possible to Dalton to get him ready for the upcoming regular season opener on September 11 at Cleveland. That means less playing time for the other quarterbacks, including Jordan Palmer.

If the team didn't have a rookie quarterback that needed to soak up extra playing time, Jordan Palmer might have some more time on the field. Partially thanks to Carson, that's not the case.

On top of all that, when Jordan Palmer did get into the game against the Lions, he was given the opportunity to move the ball down the field. He threw four passes and completed two of them. One of those completions was to a Bengals receiver for seven yards and one was to the Lions. It's not like that performance earned more time on the field.

In the end, Carson Palmer quit and cut his ties with the Bengals. What they do at the quarterback position, including his brother, isn't his business anymore. I don't think they're "toying" with Jordan Palmer at all because the quarterbacks who are ahead of him on the depth chart need more time on the field. However, even if they are "toying" with Jordan, maybe Carson should have thought about that before he decided to quit.

Just sayin'.

Now I feel better.

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Nobody's toying with your brother you stupid arrogant prick

He just SUCKS

What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.

by jimbasa on Aug 17, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Carson might have quit

But his mouth is still active

by wiseking on Aug 17, 2011 1:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

no kidding

What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.

by jimbasa on Aug 17, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

+100

A return to form. Boy Garrison is not a man to be crossed. He’s mean. Mean.

by wiseking on Aug 17, 2011 1:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Anyone give a rat's a** what Carson thinks?

I didn’t think so

"The only thing we have to fear is... Mike Brown himself."

by DrainBamage on Aug 17, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that J Palmer should be the number three QB on the team when the season starts, but his brother may get him cut instead.

It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain

by jim0ijk on Aug 17, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

If the team didn’t have a rookie quarterback that needed to soak up extra playing time, Jordan Palmer might have some more time on the field. Partially thanks to Carson, that’s not the case.

So true. Since Carson threatened retirement, we were pretty much bound by that to draft a rookie QB. Since we’re now looking for the next Franchise QB (because our old one quit on us), we have to try out our rookie and not go with a stop gap vet. That rookie needs play time, and that has to come out of the other QBs time.

Why don’t you come back, Carson, so we won’t have to give all that play time to the rookie? Right, because now, if you came back, Jordan would probably get cut pretty quickly.

Also interesting how you say nothing of LeFevour, who is getting pretty much the same play time as Jordan.

by Aether on Aug 17, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

awwww poor lil palmer

if carson was here jordan would still be getting minimal reps. looks like carson is opening his own winery

by slypony on Aug 17, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Jordan Palmer is not a good NFL QB

Carson should just be glad his brother collected a pay check this long.

by Afton on Aug 17, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup, it's all about you CP

It’s a safe assumption Carson thinks the Bengals are toying with Jordan in order to get back at him for his retirement stunt. Because it’s all about Carson, you know. The coaches aren’t trying to prepare the team for the upcoming season, nooooo, they’re trying to figure out how to get in their little jabs against CP. He’s much more important than anything else.

by spif on Aug 17, 2011 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I think they'll keep JP

If only to make CP think twice about coming back. If he shows up, lil’bro gets cut.

by K312 on Aug 17, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't know about that

I am convinced that Mike Brown would happily welcome Carson back and hand him the starting job no questions asked, even if he doesn’t show up until 2013.

by Todd G on Aug 17, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

By then.....

No way he walks into a starting job. If he came back, I’d sit his arse on the pine.

by Stanley1 on Aug 17, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

…so would I. But I was theorizing about what our esteemed owner would do, and have grown out of the belief that what I would do and what he would do are likely to be similar.

by Todd G on Aug 17, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think he would start him

But he would put him on the roster leading to a QB cut. That would make JP the odd man out.

by K312 on Aug 17, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Guy

I find it interesting that Carson never speaks directly to the media since he decided to quit on the Bengals and retire. Anytime he wants to get a message out it is always through a 3rd party who says that Carson told them whatever. I think part of it is that Carson has a need to be the good guy to the fans and the media. I think this is part of what made Carson a bad leader. He was too busy trying to be liked, instead of getting in guys faces and making them do things the right way.

As far as Jordan goes. He is lucky to have ridden Carson’s coat tails as long as he has in the NFL. The guy is a turnover machine every time they put under center.

by AWC71 on Aug 17, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Carson Palmer

A Quitter. Now with added opinions.

by wiseking on Aug 17, 2011 1:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Carson Palmer's NFL season Sunday schedule

Question: How do you think Carson will be spending his Sunday afternoons come September?

by wiseking on Aug 17, 2011 1:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

what a Joke!!!!

CP was the reason I became a bengals fan in 2003, and I still had a LITTLE respect for him if he would have just stayed home and been quiet about his opinions of this team but this comment is it for me.

If he stayed, JP would have been backup and we would have never been down this road. He should explain to JP its because of him and JP lack of talent that he can’t get reps in games.

Another thing carson, but this is how it works in the NFL. There are 60-80 other QB in camps in the same position try to get snaps. Not everyone could come from collage with the hype carson did. I hope JP gets cut now just so we don’t have to hear anymore about this joke of a family that wants everything handed to them

by BigJungle on Aug 17, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Misplaced rage at CP

Everything wrong that has happened to the Bengals in the last 20 years is Mike Browns fault. Stop being afraid of burning bridges and let the truth out.

by New Red Machine on Aug 17, 2011 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

nobody holds back on mike brown

But this story has nothing to do with him.

by JCompton41 on Aug 17, 2011 2:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1

It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain

by jim0ijk on Aug 17, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously why is carson such a girl

I feel like he is one of the mean girls!…who cares what the Bengals are doing about ur damn brother! Its a business. I could get fired tomorrow without a fair explination and no one will give a shit…cp needs to see that its a damn business and if the company doesn’t want palmer lite well they can do whatever the hell they want with it…seriously this comments confirms to me that carson is living in his parents basements playing COD eating PBJ’s

by beast_ on Aug 17, 2011 2:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Once the Bengals sign Hall

Carson will be back on the team or shipped to Seattle or Miami.

Release Cedric Benson for the magic to begin.

by bengals life on Aug 17, 2011 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Perspective Needed

If this was a private conversation Carson had with a “friend” why is everyone in such a pinch? The friend went to the media, not Carson. I agree with those of you saying that Carson doesn’t have a say in how the franchise runs its team nor is team obligated to give Jordan a fair shake; but, come the f..k on guys, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and especially when that opinion is conveyed to family and/or friends.

What are we in Stalinist Russia now, or what?

by Skeleton Kees on Aug 17, 2011 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

exactly....

….this like the National Enquirer of the NFL. “People close to Carson say that Jordan Palmer was kidnapped by aliens…”

by goffchile on Aug 17, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what?

Even if Palmer complained to the media every single day about the Bengals or took the passive aggressive route to have friends make the case to the media for him – what does it matter?

Palmer has a right to his opinion and if the media wants to give him an audience – so be it. The truth in the matter is that Palmer has been ominously silent to the media. Palmer was hounded by the media at the American Century Championship Celebrity Golf Tournament in Tahoe (a few hours away from my home) and he did not say a word about his situation with the Bengals. Not a frigging word.

So, is this a Palmer problem or an us problem?

by Skeleton Kees on Aug 17, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know

I have been of the mind “WHO CARES?” He’s no longer a Bengal… he quit. Plain and simple. And he quit before this whole trade me or I retire deal also. He quit before last season started.

Anyway… back to my Who cares about Carson stance. I’m done commenting on Carson articles.

by Oregonbengalsfan on Aug 17, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps Mike Brown should add...

…a “You’re not allowed to talk about your family members” clause to player contracts. It would be the Palmer clause.

by goffchile on Aug 17, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jordan only got

the job because of his brother. He was cut before he came to the bengals. What has he done as a bengal. he had a chance when his brother was hurt and in the preseason games. he sucked.

Note to Carson who do you think wants your brother? Do you want a trad and then force that team to carry your brother too. Or is your wife just upset again?

by collards on Aug 17, 2011 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

JP has been cut before

1st- JP is only here because of CP
2nd – JP was cut by the team that drafted him and CP didnt have nothing to say
3rd- JP sucks!!!!!
4th- JP knew going into the season his odds was slim to make the team because of CP actions
5th and finally- Who cares what CP say his a QUITER!!!!!!

by i am will on Aug 17, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

This is like

Allegator wrestling under a rug. Nobody really knows what’s going on between Brown and Palmer. For all the money involved, both are wrestling.

by BENGALS69 on Aug 17, 2011 4:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Carson, you know that your brother is HORRIBLE and the only reason he get's to cash NFL paychecks is because the Bengals were trying to keep you happy.

P.S. Carson……….once the Bengals are 100% sure that you are going to “retire”, your brother will be unemployed………but since you got 80 million in the bank…………..i’m sure baby palmer will be just fine!!

Kenneth Lewis Moore

by lightskin350 on Aug 17, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

jp is mb's 11.5 million $ insurance policy

  the bengals won’t cut jp because there is no way carson will show up in september and say here i am do something with me with jp the number 3 qb. if the bengals cut jp carson will force the bengals hand and show up . so i think that makes jp very valueable to mb…as in 11.5 million in is pocket.

by Greg Bedinghaus on Aug 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't concern myself

with he said, she said journalism. Who is the friend? This is bush league writing and it isn’t worth repeating.

by nohops on Aug 17, 2011 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

4-12

All the bad word’s coming about this season last year was 4-12 on a team that was going to be a play-off team. RE-Start is better than haging on to a Carson who is slow but sure loosing skill’s!

by Carl M on Aug 17, 2011 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

A couple of thoughts

JP is more of a natural leader than CP and more athletic. Given an opportunity (with good talent around him) I think he could be solid NFL QB. I was hoping they would give him a chance. Think back to last year when he came in a game, got flushed from the pocket, took off and jumped over a guy to get more yards. He jumped up pumping his fist and showed that leadership quality. You could see everyone on the field swell up with pride and enthusiasm. CP never did that and the guys never responded to him in that manner. Also look at how many guys responded to JP organizing QB, WR throwing sessions. With that being said, Dalton is a natural winner, all he has ever done is win and there is something to be said for that. You cannot teach that sort of charisma and swagger.

I also have a theory. I know everyone thinks MB is stuck on CP’s jock but MB is a businessman. On that we can all agree. CP’s contract was a sinking ship and even MB had to see that CP had lost this team (I know Marvin saw it). We also know MB, Marvin, Gruden and everyone around the time seemed to be in love with Dalton prior to the draft. I believe that, had CP not been a coward and remained with this team, he would have been traded to Miami or Seattle following the Bengals drafting Dalton. Marvin wouldn’t say anything against CP b/c he was MB’s boy, but part of me wonders if some of the changes Marvin and MB had discussed was the need to cut ties with CP while he still had high trade value. Last year they gave CP all the weapons he needed and he couldn’t make it happen.

Anyway, its just a theory, but I think the coaches, owner and players could see that CP wasn’t a good fit for this team anymore. Maybe I’m giving them to much credit for making that sort of decision but all the signs were there.

by WOOD98 on Aug 18, 2011 3:39 AM EDT reply actions  

i smell a rat

I just don’t believe CP would actually say this. Even if he did I doubt he intended it to be leaked through “a friend” to the media. This is either a hater trying to set him up or a too-eager friend taking some off-hand comment made over a beer as gospel. Carson understands the pecking order and the life of backup QB.

Nothing to see here…move on.

by bengaljohnboy on Aug 18, 2011 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

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