The Cincinnati Bengals Are $29 Million Under The Cap
by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 29, 2011 4:48 PM EDT
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Man those Cincinnati Bengals just can't spend their money, can they? Alright, that's another topic and not to flame a rash of anti-Mike Brown rhetoric (because we haven't heard those in a while). According to Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio, the Bengals are still $29 million under the cap, sitting only behind the Kansas City Chiefs ($32.7 million) and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers ($29.5 million).
Through trades, departures (waives and cuts), the Bengals cap number keeps increasing. On August 4, they were $27,164,000 under the cap. On August 16, they were reportedly $27,766,680 million under the cap. And two weeks later they're a cool million over that. The 51 highest-paid players factoring into that number with all 53 players (including players on IR and PUP) having to fit under the cap when the season starts.
There are known issues facing the Bengals presently. They have to be aware of Carson Palmer's salary cap number in case the quarterback decides to return. The team has to be prepared for his return, which would slap his entire cap number on the Bengals books and if that number puts the team over the cap, then it would force the Bengals to trade him. That's been a thought from others on the issue; though I view Palmer as being less vindictive than that. On the other hand, just trade him and stop worrying about the insurance padding needed for his return.
Additionally the Bengals are negotiating extensions with Andre Whitworth and Leon Hall, which realistically could lower their cap number, based on how they work it.
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Hmmmm...
from that picture it looks like Marvin needs to lay off the Ho-Hos…maybe he can check with Andre for some tips.
Oh, what’s that? Cap space increasing??? Insert picture of Mr. Burns going “Excellent” here…
Hilarious!
It’s Marvin’s bad side, Beer Run!
by wiseking on Aug 29, 2011 5:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you think
That is funny, you should see the guy run, it looks like he has a Ho-Ho stuck up his…………
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It's more of a shuffle movement, no?
by wiseking on Aug 29, 2011 5:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's a keeper!
“Marvin Lewis runs like he has a Ho-Ho stuck up his butt.”
Now, I just have to think of the post that goes with that headline…
I still contend that Mike Brown
thinks if a contender loses their QB early in the season and don’t have backup…they’ll throw more at Bengals for Palmer. I could see a team like NYJ saying “the hell with it” and giving up multiple picks for Palmer (and then trading Palmer next year to recoup those lost picks).
cards gave up a probowl cb and a 2nd round pick for kolb
that is the max brown would have gotten for palmer. there won’t be “more” later. the longer palmer sits, the less he is worth. brown already missed his trade window, as usual.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
I wouldn't think so.
Some teams are desperate teams and you’ll find some that would do it mid-season.
+1
my thoughts exactly. Mid season, Miami is doing terrible with Henne and decides to give up a 1st and 4th for Carson, b/c Brandon Marshall is getting pissed. Or San Fran decides finally, that Smith is awful and they are going to give up on him. They throw a 1st and a 5th at MB.
SF wouldn't be the right example.
They drafted the Kaepernick kid, so in the event Alex Smith struggles, they’d simply see what he has. The only chance Bengals can/would trade Palmer is if a contender loses their starting QB and don’t have an proper replacement. The chances are highly unlikely but Mike Brown, being Mike Brown has likely considered this as a “in my pocket” move.
I don't think...
they’d take Brandon Marshall seriously. He has multiple personality disorder.
What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.
Let's not forget
This is the same “GM” who passed up two firsts for OCho, and the Saints ENTIRE DRAFT for Akili Smith… Its nice to hope for that, But I think Mikey’s vindicative nature far, far, far outweighs his team management savvy.
by Black&Orange on Aug 29, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm also assuming
Mike Zimmer has no problems making physical threats towards Mike Brown, if need be.
Word on the street
is they traded Clinton McDonald to Seattle for CB Kelly Jennings.
I like the move …. having three starting quality CBs is a good thing.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Aug 29, 2011 5:30 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, saw that
I’m out of it today.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Aug 29, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Reclamation projects
I actually like a lot of the moves the Bengals made this off season, if they would have just traded CP for maximum value I would have even argued it was a great off season (I know loosing JJ sucked but we found a serviceable replacement whose actually more reliable to be on the feild). And beleive it or not I don’t have a problem with them being way under the cap at this point either b/c if any of these reclamation projects do pan out, we will have the opportunity to offer them long term deals and the money available to make it happen, if they don’t pan out we can just let them go. We have a ton of raw talent hopefully most of them will pan out and we can start spending some of the money we are going to be forced to spend in 2013
Just checking in
to see if Mike Brown has done anything intelligent…
Dumped a 7th rounder in 2013
for a pretty decent player. Although, we’ve swiftly given that credit to Zim.
Are we really this far under the Cap because of Palmer?
wow…. even if that’s the case, I don’t believe he was scheduled to make more than $15M this year. What is the extra spare $14+M for?
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I don't understand how that works.... they're already signed for this year
are they going to give up-front bonus money to them this year for contract extensions?
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Possibly. Or possibly they end up making LESS of an impact on the cap.
But the contracts you sign this year carry over to next year. Say you load up on contracts now, if they are anything other than 1 year deals there will be a cap hit on the ledger next year. And say you want to extend Lawson and Howard as well. Or Nate Clements. We have a lot of new pieces with uncertain contract situations, you have to leave cap space to deal with that.
The other two teams with more cap space than us aren’t terrible teams. The Chiefs and Bucs are however, very young. Just like us. As these players get older and reach the back-9 of their contracts it’s prudent to have plenty of cap space to retain them.
Wondering if Mike Brown
might actually have a plan. He knows he HAS to spend the money next… Maybe he’s going to sign Whit and Hall to extensions this year and clear space for a big time free agent next summer? Frank Gore if no deal gets done? Ryan Grant? Vincent Jackson? Dwayne Bowe?
i would love them to go get dallas oline castoffs
Gurode and Davis both. Whit, Davis, Gurode, bobbie, and non crappy smith. Good line.
by JCompton41 on Aug 29, 2011 7:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
-1
Davis, Gurode, Bobbie – all overaged linemen with grossly deteriorating talent
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maybe but
Davis>livings, Gurode>cook
by JCompton41 on Aug 29, 2011 8:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
at this point in their careers, I'm not so sure...
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anyones better than livings
And Gurode is still pretty good.
by JCompton41 on Aug 29, 2011 9:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed on Gurode.
But I’m not sure you stunt Cook for one or two years with Gurode. Unless you plan on drafting Mike Brewster.
i think im less high on cook than most
I think only an average starter. I don’t see him ever becoming a great center, so what’s stunting his growth is no big deal.
by JCompton41 on Aug 29, 2011 9:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It will be an interesting
measuring stick to see if Leon Hall, who is conisdered as a top 10 talent at CB, will resign as a Bengal. I believe they will resign Whit because he is more under the radar than Hall. I am trying to remember the last young, elite talent that willing signed here that didn’t have a rap sheet.
Whit may be under the radar with the media..
but if he hits Free Agency he’ll collect big bucks. Even in his 30s.. early 30s.
that's actually a very good question....
Spikes, Justin Smith, Madieu Williams, Steinbach, Joseph….. just imagine if all those guys were still on our team? It’d certainly solve most of our current issues. Yea, we suck at retaining talent.
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