Willie Anderson: Quarterback Carson Palmer Recently In Town To Meet With Bengals
by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 7, 2011 10:43 AM EDT
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PrintMuch like Andrew Whitworth today, Willie Anderson long stood as my favorite Bengals player when he played in Cincinnati. Long have I admitted my obsession with offensive linemen. Without them, there is no running game. There is no passing game. There is no offense. There is no football.
On Saturday Anderson tweeted that former Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer could be returning.
When Carson Palmer comes back to play for Bengals "Thank Me Later!"less than a minute ago via txt 
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Anderson eventually recanted the statement, saying that Palmer recently left Cincinnati after meeting with the Bengals brass and that his return is "not happening." If only our old friend Willie would just read the pages of CincyJungle, maybe he'd know that already.
Palmer's return at this point could be disastrous. While Andy Dalton has worked a majority of the snaps during training camp, Palmer's return would upset that development because both Marvin Lewis and Mike Brown have both admitted his immediate ascension to the starting lineup if he were to return. Additionally we can't believe that suddenly Palmer's change of heart would mean that the same problems wouldn't return next season, further needing Dalton's development to go uninterrupted.
Regardless, it's not happening, nor have we expected his return since the Bengals drafted rookie Andy Dalton in the second round of the 2011 NFL Draft.
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Speculation is always fun
but I suppose it’s too easy to instantly assume and promote the more salacious possibility. Willie is no different and nor should he be, he isn’t, as far as I understand, a professional journalist. It’s always easy to get people in a lather about a potentially juicy situation. A simple business meeting shouldn’t be subject to gossip but here it is. Hopefully, this is nothing more then a meeting to seriously discuss the possibility of Mike Brown putting aside his pettiness for the greater good of the team. I can only imagine that Mike Brown didn’t change his viewpoints.
His return would be detrimental to the whole team.
I must also admit that I’ve enjoyed the quiet business-like attitude of the team this year. Now that’s Ocho’s gone, it’s been nice and quiet. If Carson returns, so does the circus. Too bad MB won’t trade him – Miami is probably willing to pay a high price for him! And I still don’t believe Tavaris is Seattle’s answer either.
I'm starting to think...
MB is waiting for a major contender to lose their starting QB. Of course, he’ll turn down a crazy great offer out of “principle” and unload him next year for a pair of 6th rounders
Stranger things have happened when it comes to the bengals. It would surprise me if he returned and you know mb would welcome his golden boy back with open arms.
by Bfritts45 on Aug 7, 2011 11:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I would hate to see Carson in town for any reason associated with the Bengals
unless it is working out a trade to another team. I never want to see him in stripes again.
Couldnt said better 70!
Don’t mess the mind set of the coaches, player or fans. CP come anywhere near the bengals I’m throwing rocks !
by bghzl on Aug 8, 2011 7:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bring him...
Palmer sucks, but at least you know what your getting.
by DavidFulcher on Aug 7, 2011 11:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
This is a battle for leverage
and at some point, someone will get it. What would MB do if CP9 returned today? Obviously there is no cap issue and never will be, ever.
He could tell him all is forgiven and the starters job is yours just as soon as you pay the fines for missing camp.
He could tell him that he doubts CP9’s desire so there will be a QB competition just as soon as you pay the fines.
With all the money involved I don’t believe everyone is just standing around saying " Oh what a Shame", something will always be on the table.
by BENGALS69 on Aug 7, 2011 11:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I semi disagree
I actually think bringing CP back for one more year would only help AD. I think at this point it would have been beneficial to all involved. It Would allow Dalton to sit behind Palmer and learn for a season. Shortened training camp and a new offense equal struggling times for most rookies and with a new “air apparent” it would also give Brown every reason to trade him next season, while at the same time making both sides appear to be “doing the right thing”. Brown and Palmer are both stubborn and obviously neither sides will do what is best.
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That's why they got Gradkowski.
He might not be as talented and well known as Palmer but Grads is every bit of experienced in the NFL, especially with this particular scheme. Palmer at this point isn’t going to be able to “teach” Dalton simply because Palmer would be playing massive catch up.
by KSE on Aug 7, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it's not about teaching
It’s about learning. Palmer doesn’t know this offense either,I understand that,but Palmer does understand defenses, blitzes which are things that Dalton could use more time to learn and understand.
I don’t care to see Carson back either, but I also think that allowing your rookie QB to go out and get the drive and desire pounded out of him because he hasn’t had a full opportunity to learn is just as useless.
Gradkowski is not the answer , sorry.
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I call Bull - - - T!!!
Palmer does “not” know defenses! He did a fair job in the past until this past year! Now he over reads.. Always calls audibles at the line based on his own ghosts, and that caues false starts!!
He can’t teach Dalton a thing except how to throw INT’s and bail out!
Gradkowski is a better mentor.
2012 - Playoff bound!!!
I said....
Not to teach.. I didn’t say anything about Palmer teaching him defenses! You will be one of the guys that will be on here whining when/if Dalton can’t hang because he got the love of the game beat out of him because he wasn’t prepared. You will then proceed to tell everyone how Mike Brown screwed us again and OMG! Did you see that Andy Dalton , another of Mike Browns garbage picks.
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NAH...
I won’t… MB only pays or doesn’t pay for talent. He has no influence between the lines!!! I won’t make excuses for Dalton or Green because they are rookies, or Gradkowski, or Palmer, or any of them because they are professionals. I expect them to play like it and produce! I expect the team as a whole to produce!
I will look at perfomance of all 11 on the field – Defense and Offense. My thing will be coaching… Can this group coach this talent team to better than a 8-8 season??
If so, I call that a +. If they really get going and make playoff run, that’s a + +, AFC Champs a + + +, Dare I say Superbowl????
2012 - Playoff bound!!!
Knowing the schemes doesn't help
unless you translate it, perform and execute on the field.. which Gradkowski can not and will never do..
Palmer has no advantage over Dalton or Gratowski
Has he even seen the front cover of the new playbook? I’m going to guess not. He would have to learn from fresh like everyone else.
Also, would you put a lot of effort in blocking for a douchebag that turned his back on the team and city? I cannot believe the lockerroom would be much fun, and if Carson thinks the fans were “mean” before, try going out there now and throwing a pick 6 in front of them. Keep your helmet on, buddy!
Sure. Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Palmer would need a new contract
Seems to me that any move by Palmer would require he negotiate a new contract with new team, because no one (including the Bengals) is going to pay him what the Bengals would have to if he just came back.
It would all take a bunch of three way negotiations in “secret” , and I imagine some sort of surrender announcement from Palmer.
Harder to get further away from Palmer’s home than Miami, so keep your ear to the rail.
The general assumption...
is that Palmer would re-do the contract as McNabb did with Minnesota. Palmer’s best hopes is for a top QB for a contender to go down early in the season and for that team to made a big push. Chances of MB giving in are quite low, of course.
by KSE on Aug 7, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
NOPE
Palmer doesn’t have to re-negotiate anything. He’s due $11Mil if he comes back. He could come back 3/4 through the season and say, Play me, sit me, or trade me… Either way, ya gotta PAY me~~~ (Adjusted of course)
The big problem is that his salary is so high no one will take on his contrat “AS-IS”.. Meaning that even if he were traded, the Bengals would have to pay a portion of his salary. And that just sticks in MB’s throat because he gave Palmer that much to “RETAIN” him until he retires.. i.e. 5 years! He was to be the future of the Bengals come what may!
Let him just stay out!!!
2012 - Playoff bound!!!
like a crazy ex
just stay away, the team needs time to move on and get over being spit on. Just chill wherever it is that you stay now, and let the team grow. Never thought I’d be saying this about Palmer, but jeeze get over it and go away.
If anything...
Palmer is trying to HELP the team by forcing the trade. It’s an equally selfish and selfless act but the insecure pettiness of one man continues to hinder any chance of happiness for everyone involved.
by KSE on Aug 7, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Carson Palmer...
You had 1 yr left on your contract… finish it off. (But too late for that now… don’t want him back. What chemistry the team has built would be torn asunder)
Mike Brown… Stupid stupid stupid! He has value trade him!
by Oregonbengalsfan on Aug 7, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions
Correction...
I think Palmer’s contract in through 2014!
See this link fo more detail, and what he said about the contract!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2274314
2012 - Playoff bound!!!
Yeah that was pointed out to me later
I think I might have been thinking of Ocho… I think he had 1 yr left.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Aug 8, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Bengals fans.
My god people, this guy went to the pro-bowl 05, 06 and 07. He avg a QB rating of like 110. In 08 the guy get hurt. 09 the guy leads this team from behind to win like six games, remember the cardiac cats, and put us into the playoffs. In 2010 the guy has a below avg season. and what do the retard Bengals fans do, they boo him when he hits a huge mile stone in his career, they throw trash on his front lawn, and who knows what other crazy sh@#. Palmer is the best QB this organization will ever have. Andy Dalton couldn’t lick the dirt off Palmer’s shoes. Bengals fans amaze me sometimes, show some fu@#ing gratitude, an organization run this poorly, was lucky to have a QB of Jeff Blake’s caliber.
you forgot
To add quitter to his resume’.
He quit on us, not the other way around. If he can’t take the booing then stop throwing 25 Int’s, 6 pick sixes.
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If the hatred directed against Carson
was instead against Mike Brown maybe the stadium would sit empty enough for him to finally sell.
Carson is a smart man who is doing what a smart man should do in his situation, and that is not suffer the indignity of playing in the Bungle Circus. He’s wealthy enough not to need that.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Aug 7, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't sign
On the dotted line then. If this organization is SOOO bad , why didn’t he choose to leave it when Mike Brown couldn’t stop him? J Joe did……
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Because
When he resigned after 05, the team was looking like we were finally on the right track… Up until the right turn back to the 90’s
by Black&Orange on Aug 7, 2011 11:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Get your facts right before you make such a stupid argument
My god people, this guy went to the pro-bowl 05, 06 and 07. He avg a QB rating of like 110.
haha, no. His career average is about 89.0 if I can remember correctly, he was good in 2005-2006 but that was 5 years ago man. And he’s only been two Pro Bowls, 05 and 06
"You gotta look good. Look good, you play good. Play good, pay good. Pay good, live good. Live good, y'know, eat good. Die good." - Deion Sanders
Totally with you dude
I get so tired of the Palmer bashing here. He’s the best player we’ve had at QB since Boomer, and all everyone can say is good riddance, we’re better off with a second round draft pick? It does suck that he quit on us, but when the extremely well paid, boy scout like, face of the franchise throws his hands up and says “I’m out”, that should reflect far worse on the organization, not him. At least Ocho finally got out and got a chance to play for a contender…
by Black&Orange on Aug 7, 2011 11:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He was great at times.
But the fact that he couldn’t man up and stick with the team that drafted him tells me all I need to know. He has all the physical tools in the world, and he knows the offense very well. But he doesn’t have the heart or the leadership.That’s why I say good riddance.
Carson’s like the hot girlfriend who dumped us. I’m not gonna sit around and say, “Man, she was hot”, when it turns out she never really cared in the first place. I’m gonna say ,“On to the next one”, and forget about her.
If you wanna mope around and dream about the girl you’re never going to get back, go ahead. She stopped being attractive 3 years ago.
"You gotta look good. Look good, you play good. Play good, pay good. Pay good, live good. Live good, y'know, eat good. Die good." - Deion Sanders
he re-upped in 2005
when the Bengals had done enough of a head fake to make a lot of people think the same old same old had ended… turned out to be all smoke and mirrors like the dot com bubble or the housing bubble…
by occams_tiger_teeth on Aug 7, 2011 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
hmm
“They added six years to a deal that still had three to go, providing Palmer with a chance to make $118.75 million in salary and bonuses over the next nine years. He very well could spend the rest of his career in stripes.”
“Hopefully this is the last place I’ll end up playing,” Palmer said. “That’s so rare in this league these days. It’s so rare to see a person have a 5-, 8-, 10-, 12-year career in one place. And I feel very fortunate that it looks like that’s going to be my future.”
Yep Mike Brown really screwed him good. Beat his ass to death with cash.
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I'd rather have a guy who admits
there a horrible problem with the organization than one who would act like many Bengals players before him and quietly collect the money.
He cares about winning… and nobody can do that in Cincinnati. As long as Mike Brown breathes there will be no Lombardi Trophy ever hoisted in Cincy. And if Mike Brown passes the team on to the family of nepotism, maybe even beyond that.
Corey Dillon – smart enough to mouth off – got out of town, got a ring, maybe gonna be in the Hall of Fame some day. Chad Ochocinco might get lucky enough to follow suit. Anybody who really wants to win would avoid Bengaldom like the plague that it is.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Aug 8, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
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