Bengals Not the Only Team to Put in Claim on McGlynn
by Jason Garrison on Sep 4, 2011 6:41 PM EDT
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Earlier today, the Bengals picked up offensive lineman Mike McGlynn off waivers from the Philadelphia Eagles along with tight end Mickey Shuler Jr. and wide receiver/kick and punt returner Brandon Tate. The Bengals were the only team to put in a claim on Shuler but they weren't the only team looking to add McGlynn to their roster.
According to The Cincinnati Enquirer's Joe Reedy, the Rams, the Colts and the Ravens all put in a claim for the interior offensive lineman.
Besides #bengals, the #rams #colts and #ravens put in claims on McGlynn. Shuler had no other claimers besides #bengals.less than a minute ago via TweetDeck 
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It's always good to grab a guy that's wanted throughout the league because it's just a good sign that you're not the only group of people who thinks he's good.
McGlynn will add depth to the Bengals to the entire offensive line as he's played both the tackle position and at center. The interior offensive line is where the Bengals could use the help, though.
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Can't believe Chase Coffman was such a bust
"At the very end, somebody took a dump right where I stood in the dugout every day." Dusty Baker
Not a bust
Believe the Bengals didnt use Chase right. He was more like a big reciever then a TE. They should of used him more in the slot on short yards and red zone.
by i am will on Sep 4, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
got to agree we didn't use him correctly
u draft a hands guy, u use his hands. if the bengals had throw chase 100 game balls in 2 years here and he’d dropped 50-75, i understand him being cut.
he’s go 3 recs on his career in cincy, don’t feel like looking up his drops, but i’m pretty sure he’s got less than 30 targeted passes in his career in cincy.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
What's the policy on waivers?
Is it a first dibs kind of situation, or who the agent works out the best deal with? Or does the player get some say as to who picks him up? We’ve had players in the past get snatched away last minute, I hope that doesn’t happen this time.
by Black&Orange on Sep 4, 2011 7:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
player gets no say.
Teams pick in order of their draft positions. Teams pick up players existing contract.
by BENGALS69 on Sep 4, 2011 7:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
unless they are vets
then release equals free agent
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
Just to elaborate on the waiver wire...
Any player with more than four seasons (I think) is automatically and immediately a UFA when they are released. If a player has played fewer than four seasons, then they go through the waiver process. The player is placed on waivers for 24 hours, during which time, any team can claim them. At the end of the 24 hours, the team with the highest draft position from the previous draft who claimed the player gets the player. If the player goes through the 24 hour period, then they become a UFA and can sign with any team they like.
If the player is eligible for the practice squad, then any team can offer them a contract for the PS (which is USUALLY the minimum, and USUALLY only the team who they were released by – exceptions exist, see: Briscoe, Dezmon). Once a player is on the PS, they can be signed to the 53 man roster for any team, but they can’t change from one team’s PS to another team’s PS.
couple observations
Well done Gabril Wilson coming back from an ACL tear 1 year ago to make the 53 as of now. Without team supervision during the lockout no less. Awesome dedication.
To suceed the Bengals need an Adrian Peterson type back and a very savvy Andy Dalton which isn’t what we have in 2011. In the draft either we get that type back or get a big arm QB like all the elite QBs.
Still don’t see more than 3 or 4 wins in 2011.
by BENGALS69 on Sep 4, 2011 7:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Totally disagee
We do not need need a big arm qb, but I guess we’ll wait and see what happens
In order for a reciever to get
fifty yards down field takes takes 4 or five seconds for the fastest guys, this is much longer than the average NFL QB gets to throw. I think he can sling it fifty.
We have AJ GREEN and Simpson.
Two of the fastest and biggest WRs in the NFL.
A big arm QB would be nice.
Especially in the windy weather of November and December.
by BENGALS69 on Sep 4, 2011 8:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ced benson is a lot better than people give him credit for.
watch how good he plays with a decent fullback this year.
Agree about Gibril
However, have to disagree about your assertion about the NEED for a strong-armed. The last two SB-winning qbs do NOT have “rocket” arms, yet still are in the upper-echelon of qbs. Part of the reason why Rodgers “fell” in the ’05 draft was because of his perceived lack of arm strength. Moreover, NFL history has shown that “above-average” armed Qbs can win SBA: Montana, Steve Young, Brees, Rodgers, Eli Manning. Also, Jim Kelly and Ken Anderson did NOT have rocket arms, yet led their teams to SBs. Accuracy and decision-making skills trump arm strength any day of the week.
by The_Black_Stripes on Sep 4, 2011 8:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Which Arron Rodgers?
The Green Bay QB has a rocket arm. Maybe you are thinking of somebody else?
by BENGALS69 on Sep 4, 2011 8:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think the point remains the same
You can win with accuracy and smarts instead of a rocket arm
AD can throw it deep (when he needs to)
Sometimes I think people forget how good these guys are just to be able to make the NFL. I’m pretty sure AD could throw the ball 50-60 yds in the air pretty easily. He may not have the zip as some of the other “big arm” QB’s but that’s where smarts and accuracy come into play (look off the safety throw it where only your receiver can make a play). This same stuff was said about Drew Breeze and we can only hope AD progresses as well as he did in this area.
I have High Hope for AD
If he can torch the D a few times going deep to keep the Safety outta the box its fine with me because it can open up our run game and also Gresham’s opportunity to find mismatches
Think November
Winds swirling at 25 MPH. Dalton’s passes hang or dive because he can’t spin the rock like Big Ben or Flacco. If there is a Adrian Peterson type back. Then not so bad.
by BENGALS69 on Sep 4, 2011 9:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
As much as I would love to have an Adrian Peterson type back
I’d be just aqs happy with an above average back and a strong O-line because now days that’s how most running teams are successful
Nope. Rodgers has a rocket arm NOW
You can develop arm strength (unlike accuracy). Simply do a a Google search of Aaron Rodgers draft “slide”, and you will find that teams were concerned about his perceived lack of arm strength.
by The_Black_Stripes on Sep 5, 2011 12:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nope. Rodgers has a rocket arm NOW
You can develop arm strength (unlike accuracy). Simply do a a Google search of Aaron Rodgers draft “slide”, and you will find that teams were concerned about his perceived lack of arm strength.
by The_Black_Stripes on Sep 5, 2011 12:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nope. Rodgers has a rocket arm NOW
You can develop arm strength (unlike accuracy). Simply do a Google search of Aaron Rodgers’ draft “slide”, and you will find that teams were concerned about his perceived lack of arm strength.
by The_Black_Stripes on Sep 5, 2011 12:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nope. Rodgers has a rocket arm NOW
You can develop arm strength (unlike accuracy). Simply do a Google search of Aaron Rodgers’ draft “slide”, and you will find that teams were concerned about his perceived lack of arm strength.
by The_Black_Stripes on Sep 5, 2011 12:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Geez - tell me about it. Apologies to all
My point is that Aaron Rodgers actually developed the rocket arm he currently hasl. Coming out of Cal, his draft scouting report indicated that he had “above-average” arm strength. He worked on it, and NOW he has a cannon.
The point is that accuracy and decision making ALWAYS trump pure arm strength. Just look at QBs like Jeff George, Ryan Leaf, Andre Ware, Heath Shuler, anx countless others who all had rocket arms, yet had the decision-making skills of Charlie Sheen at an open bar. Arm-strength, ALONE, is not indicative of a QBs chances of success in the NFL. Steve Young, the QB with the highest career passer rating, is very adamant about this fact. Moreover, arm strength can be developed – see Aaron Rodgers of GB.
This better jot post a gazillion times. Stupid (not so) smart phone.
by The_Black_Stripes on Sep 5, 2011 1:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Search "Aaron Rodgers Draft Profile"
and you’ll see everyone saying he has above average arm strength. If NFL teams were concerned it wasn’t enough, that’s one thing. But lack of arm strength all together is another.
by Cry on Sep 5, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
that's the same for AD.
No one is saying he simply “lacks” arm strength. His draft profile says he is “capable of making all NFL throws.”. I take that to mean that he has more than a good enough arm to make in the NFL, not that he lacks arm strength altogether. Jay Gruden is even on record as saying that he knows Dalton can make all the throws. He has a strong enough arm which can further be developed into a cannon (possibly) – just see Aaron rodgers who went from “above-average” arm coming out of Cal, to having a true Howitzer now. You can develop arm strength.
by The_Black_Stripes on Sep 5, 2011 1:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Absolutely.
Brees, Brady, and more recently McCoy, they’ve all improved arm strength drastically. Rodgers too, certainly. Flip the equation and you get a guy like Stafford (recent analogue Mallet), Stafford had a cannon but relied on it way too much. He’s just now blended touch & accuracy fully into the equation. His learning curve was different but it existed.
Dalton has all the ability, on that point I agree 100%.
by Cry on Sep 5, 2011 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Tate
Was also sought after by AZ and other teams too. In the case of waiver claims, it’s a good thing the Bengals did so badly last season.
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For what it's worth I read an older pre-season magazine preview today and they said he was actually pretty good
It basicaally said he played well and improved as the season went along, the ironic part of the article was that is also said Max Gene Giles side of the line is where the Eagles sucked
Is There Any Chance of The NFL
Having a System like the NBA and MLB, A Farm System where they develop players without having other teams getting invovled when they sign PS players like when The Bucs did to us
They do
It’s called the NCAA collegiate football program. Ask Roger GODdell. He can suspend players that do things in college for the NFL.
Well it can be good....If the UFL does that
but each team has their own Farm system and they can schedule each other’s farm system some playing time and play against each other
If you remember the World league in Europe.
Each team had players and they played together on the same team or against each other on separate teams. They used that as a minor league system but it didn’t work.
The problem with a farm system is that you have to have enough players to manage it.
The MLB draft is 50 rounds for a reason.
Not only that, seasons aren’t long enough for there to be an adequate use of them.
There is
It’s called the Canadian Football League.
not really i mean where the Team would have certain coaches coaching them
like this
Bengals-53 players
Bengals Farm System- Where bengals can only have access too and and bring players into their 53 man roster w/o having to deal with PS issues
If the UFL doesn't fold entirely..
I imagine it may someday function like this. Maybe not a dedicated team for each NFL club, but players can sign some sort of futures contract with an NFL club and join a UFL club to develop. Once the team is satisfied they can call that player up and activate the contract.
Yes, kind of my point
but i dont want to lose the draft, so you have to draft the player or neither the player is a free agent and you can put him into your farm system and let the player develop incase of an emergency they can be called right away and they already the the Offense / Defense so NFL teams dont have to sign FA off the street and then the FA will have to learn the system and playbook within a few days
i mean its gonna help out a lot of football team and the maximum players you can keep in the Farm system is 15 unless theirs an injury to a player in the farm system then you can replace the injured player with another player and You’ll have to make a decision who to cut when the other player is healthy
Is the waiver wire closed at this point?
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if someone like the Patriots picked up Coffman. He’d be a great backup for Aaron Hernandez. It’s how we should have used him all along, but this tram has never had a clue how to use TEs to their skillset. I blame Marvin Lewis. He’s like Dusty Baker – gets some idea in his head about what a certain position SHOULD be and doesn’t care at all what the player he has there is capable of. Coffman and Gresham on the field at the same time could have been a nightmare for defenses even if neither of them ever blocked a single rusher. Most defenses are lucky if they have one alb that can cover a guy like that, we’d have had two. You could have yelled “We’re passing it to one of thhe TEs for 10 yards!” before the snap and they still wouldn’t be able to stop it. Nice work, Marvin. As always.
Correct.
It’s not that Gruden wouldn’t find a use for Chase, it’s that Chase is taking a place on the roster as a TE, not a WR. If he can’t perform the tasks that this system requires from a TE, he is too much of a luxury at the position. We don’t need 7 WRs. We need three all-round TEs.
I'm surprised we couldn't do more.
I haven’t looked at all of the cuts but I’m surprised we didn’t do another interior offensive lineman and a better TE. It somewhat shows that college teams aren’t developing TEs the way the pros want. A project like Coffman is what you need to do and teaching someone to block at the NFL level is very difficult. Heck even college linemen struggle with learning to block in the pros.
I was frustrated for years with the team’s inability to find a TE that was even a credible receiving threat. Coffman had great hands. To bad he couldn’t learn to block a little.
we tried
i saw an article about the Patriots having 5 players claimed off the wire and the bengals put in on a Guard that ended up going to Texans
We apparently had McGlynn listed
as a higher priority than this other guard.
@joereedy: #bengals did put in a claim on G Thomas Austin but had McGlynn higher priority on list. Had they not got McGlynn, they would have got Austin
by Oregonbengalsfan on Sep 5, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Bobby Williams counted on the 53 man roster??
I was wondering because if he’s already counted on the roster we don’t have to release anyone he comes back, which is a good because two weeks later Rivers and Jones should return as well. My question is with the return of Bobbie Williams along with the versatility of Bolin, Collins, and now McGlynn will one the other back up O-lineman actually be expendaple for us to free up another roster spot
Honestly I thought Mike McGlynn was terrible last year. Max Jean-Gilles was better than him. Granted, they played different positions (center vs guard) but Max was responsible for less flat out negative plays than McGlynn. It was his first year starting and it was at a relatively new position, but he actually got worse as the season went on, which was probably the most disconcerting thing.
He was the starting center for almost all of last season and began camp as the 3rd stringer this year. That told me how little the Eagles thought of how he played.
I dunno, I’d take a look at him at guard before I’d have him play center again. He just didn’t seem suited for that at all. He is still young of course and has really only played the one year, so obviously there’s still something to work with there.
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It's McGlynn for Mathis
I think we all know who has got the better deal here, but with Hudson carrying an injury and Stephens not playing at guard, they needed someone to back up Boling on the right side for the duration of Bobbie’s suspension.
+1, wish we didn't burn bridges with Mathis.
McGlynn is a backup center. In case of emergency. His most likely chance at taking snaps is at RG, and even there he isn’t a surefire lock at 2nd on the depth chart. From everything I’ve seen.. he’s a solid lineman put into a bad situation. He has 16 games of starting experience, very valuable for depth.
by Cry on Sep 5, 2011 4:20 AM EDT up reply actions
We the fan
We tend to fall in love with guys on the team, as is expected, and because of that we tend to look at things through rose colored glasses.
Cosby and Coffman were average and if you have a chance to get better you take it. I am just happy to see this team go out and really attempt to upgrade at any position.
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