Primer: Cincinnati Bengals (0-0) At Cleveland Browns (0-0)
by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 7, 2011 10:00 AM EDT
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Game: Cincinnati Bengals (0-0) at Cleveland Browns (0-0)
Series Leader: Bengals, 39-36
Streak: Bengals have won four out of the last five
Coaches vs. Opponent: Lewis: 11-5. Shurmur: 0-0
Broadcast: CBS (1:00 PM ET): Kevin Harlan, Solomon Wilcots. SIRIUS: 106 (Cin.), 113 (Cle.). XM: 233 (Cle.).
SB Nation: Dawgs by Nature
NFL.com: Game Center
Weather: Partly cloudy with a temperature of 70 degrees at kickoff. [WeatherUnderground.com]
Uniform: White
CINCINNATI BENGALS
- The Bengals have won two of the past three against the Browns in Cleveland.
- Marvin Lewis is the entering his ninth season as the longest tenured head coach in franchise history.
- Running back Cedric Benson is averaging 92.2 yards per game against the Browns (461 yards, 5 games).
- Running back Bernard Scott is averaging 5.1 yards/rush against the Browns for his career (34 attempts, 175 yards).
- Wide receiver Andre Caldwell posted 89 yards receiving in his last game against the Browns.
- Tight end Jermaine Gresham and wide receiver Jordan Shipley tied for third in rookie receptions in the NFL last season.
- Cornerback Nate Clements, making his Bengals debut, has 33 career interceptions.
- Defensive end Carlos Dunlap tied a career-best two quarterback sacks in his last game against the Cleveland Browns.
- Cornerback Leon Hall has five career interceptions against the Browns; most against any team.
CLEVELAND BROWNS
- Head coach Pat Shurmur will make his NFL debut as a head coach.
- In his only meeting against the Cincinnati Bengals, quarterback Colt McCoy completed 19 of 25 passes for 243 yards passing and two touchdowns (a career-best 132.6 passer rating).
- Running back Peyton Hillis posted a career-best 11 rushing touchdowns in 2010, joining Hall of Famers Jim Brown and LeRoy Kelly as the only Browns players to rush for 11 touchdowns a season.
- Tight end Benjamin Watson has a career-high 763 yards receiving in 2010, joining Hall of Famers Kellen Winslow, Ozzie Newsome and Milt Morin as the only Browns tight ends with 700 yards receiving or more in a second.
- Watson posted 13 receptions for 152 yards in his previous two games against the Bengals.
- Wide receiver Brian Robiskie had a career-best 82 yards receiving during previous game against the Bengals.
- Tackle Joe Thomas will make his 65th consecutive start dating back to 2007.
- Cornerback Joe Haden posted six interceptions last season; most by a rookie since 2001 (Anthony Henry).
TEAM RANKINGS (2010)
| Offense | Bengals | Browns |
| Total | 330.6 (20th) | 289.7 (29th) |
| Scoring | 20.1 (22nd) | 16.9 (31st) |
| Third Downs | 39% (17th) | 37% (19th) |
| Rushing | 95.1 (27th) | 102.9 (20th) |
| Rushing TDs | 9 (t-29th) | 13 (t-12th) |
| 20-Yard Runs | 3 (t-last) | 7 (t-25th) |
| Passing | 235.4 (13th) | 186.8 (29th) |
| Passing TDs | 26 (t-11th) | 13 (30th) |
| Sacks Allowed | 28 (t-8th) | 36 (t-17th) |
| 20-yard Passes | 45 (t-16th) | 42 (t-24th) |
| Defense | Bengals | Browns |
| Total | 332.0 (15th) | 350.1 (22nd) |
| Scoring | 24.7 (24th) | 20.8 (13th) |
| 3rd Downs Allowed | 38% (14th) | 43% (28th) |
| Rushing | 115.2 (19th) | 129.4 (27th) |
| Rushing TDs | 15 (t-24th) | 7 (t-4th) |
| 20-Yard Runs | 17 (t-29th) | 10 (t-10th) |
| Passing | 216.8 (t-14th) | 220.7 (18th) |
| Passing TDs | 21 (t-7th) | 26 (t-24th) |
| Sacks | 27 (t-27th) | 29 (t-25th) |
| QB Rating | 85.2 (19th) | 84.8 (17th) |
| 20-Yard Passes Allowed | 47 (16th) | 49 (19th) |
| Interceptions | 16 (t-14th) | 19 (t-8th) |
| Special Teams | Bengals | Browns |
| Kickoff Return | 21.8 (t-20th) | 17.0 (32nd) |
| Punt Return | 7.2 (25th) | 10.7 (11th) |
| Punting (Net) | 38.2 (t-12th) | 39.0 (9th) |
| Punts Inside the 20 | 29 (t-8th) | 28 (t-11) |
CAREER AGAINST THE BROWNS
Cedric Benson
| Date | Rushes | Yards | TDs |
| 12.19.2010 | 31 | 150 | 1 |
| 10.3.2010 | 15 | 60 | 0 |
| 10.4.2009 | 18 | 74 | 0 |
| 12.21.2008 | 38 | 171 | 0 |
| 10.9.2005 | 5 | 6 | 0 |
Jordan Shipley
| Date | Rec | Yards | TDs |
| 12.19.2010 | 2 | 14 | 0 |
| 10.3.2010 | 2 | 29 | 0 |
Jermaine Gresham
| Date | Rec | Yards | TDs |
| 12.19.2010 | 1 | 6 | 0 |
| 10.3.2010 | 5 | 35 | 0 |
Jerome Simpson
| Date | Rec | Yards | TDs |
| 12.19.2010 | 2 | 30 | 0 |
A.J. Green
| Date | Rec | Yards | TDs |
| N/A |
Andy Dalton
| Date | Cmp | Att | Yrds | TD | INT | Rating |
| N/A |
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Bengals over all #s on offense, defense, and special teams were better than the Brownies last year.
Guess that goes to show you the differences that turnovers can make.
Change gone come mane! Trust me! Cause i Bleed tigerblood!--Jerome Simpson
yo mccoy
meet dunlap, peko, and atkins
but, hey, we’re a free win. so enjoy sunday browns fans. pray you have a healthy qb come next monday.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
Don't forget MJ!
I expect him to be living in the backfield all day on Sunday……….can it just be Sunday already?!!
by The Van Buren Boys on Sep 7, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
It can't get here soon enough. I feel like a crack fiend and my dealer is coming Sunday at 1:00
All the rankings, analysis, projections etc. are behind us. It’s finally freaking time to get this sh*t started.
for those not following the browns, Eric Steinbach is out - for the season.
the browns had to scan the wavier wire to find a replacement, since the rookie penciled in to handle that task had underperformed. 8 year vet, former redskins backup, Artis Hicks will be the starter on sunday at LG for the Browns.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
Nice
Let’s light ’em up.
And since the Cleveland Steamers are already penciling this one in as a win. I encourage all of you to post on DBN and use subject lines(they really hate that there).
2011 and beyond. Only one thing came true on the last wishlist.
This year's wishlist
1. Bengals win Super Bowl (Something I hope for every year)
2. Reds win the World Series(or at least a playoff game)
3. Ohio State Wins a Big 10 title
4. Cavaliers actually finish with a winning record
5. Wings win the Cup
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by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Sep 7, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
we'll have our fingers crossed for the steelers too
hate the ratbirds.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
Ugh!
How could you ever root for the Steelers?!?! We have had more success against the Ratbirds than the Squealers so I am rooting for them. I look at it this way: I want it to be a rough game were bruises mount. I want the Ratbirds to squeak out a win because I think that helps us as a team later in the year if there is any chance at the playoffs. I think we could beat Baltimore at least once but the Squealers are always harder to beat. Put one in the loss column for them and we have a better chance at the end of the year.
At least that is how I look at games.
i hate the ratbirds more than any other team in the nfl
even the 49ers (you did not invent the west coast offense. we did)
or the saints (who dat my ass and your revisionist history.)
or colts. (the no huddle was not invented in indy, stop acting like it was. we did).
yes the steelers come in at #5 for me, i can live with them and respect them, we still owe them for 2005. (our year, not yours.)
as for my lasting hate for the ravens, they stole our greatest rival in the middle of the night. the brownies 2.0 aren’t worthy of the name browns. and the ravens do not belong in the afc north. they forfeited that right when they left cleveland. not to forget, their fans are trolls of the worst kind.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
by palewook on Sep 7, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The difference.
I guess that is the difference of being in state and out of state. Being from CT, I don’t give a flying leap if the old Browns moved, folded, or jumped off a cliff. To me, who cares if they became the Ratbirds because I was never of fan of the Browns anyway. Sure, it moved a rivalry to another location and to me, the hatred was redirected to the Steelers. I can see your point tough but disagree with it completely.
I have one love: The Bengals. Anything and anyone I can root for to help the Bengals is where I go. I loathe the Pats (being from CT), but if the Pats are playing a team that is competing with us for a wild card, I am rooting for the Pats that weekend. The more losses the Steelers have, the better chance we have at taking the division.
I think location has a lot to do with it
I’m originally from western PA and I find “Stiller” fans to be the most loathsome individuals in the known universe. Seriously, I hope a meteor falls on Heinz Field the next time the Ravens play there. At least 60,000 less black and gold bleeding morons.
by stripesinseattle on Sep 7, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
looking at the defensive stats for last year, the Bengals were statistically much poorer than I thought.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Sep 7, 2011 12:09 PM EDT reply actions
how could they be much better
Our offense constantly put our defense in holes all season long. Much like the game against the Lions this preseason. We had a secondary that was completely devestated. Dunlap didnt play for the majority of the 1st six games. The D-line lost Pat Sims and Fenene was injured as well. We can’t even compare ourselves to that defense, much the same players but plenty of new and better faces is what I see.
Our defense will only be as good as our offense allows us to be.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
Twitter @Rcklarue
Um, not making any comparisons
Just pointing out that last year’s D was not as good as I thought (and probably many others)
The 20+ yard plays against, lack of stops on 3rd down and QB rating against have very little to do with the offense putting the D in bad spots.
For a D that was rated 15th in total D last year, there were definitely more sore spots than I previously realized. I am also confident (though hopefully it is not a blind confidence) that the D will be improved this season due to the combination of more experience for the younger guys and what appears to be a softer schedule.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Sep 7, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, didn't mean to imply:
I just hope we are better than last season. I honestly would like to think we are.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
Twitter @Rcklarue
Quietly confident
You read other reports and stories about this game and Brown’s fans have managed to talk themselves into being over confident. They bought into the media hype machine that the " Bengals are bad". I think they are in for a rude awakening this Sunday, not saying we will win, but if Dalton is able to play with confidence and control his emotions, it will be a good game.
I think we have one of the best defensive lines in football and it is as good or better than any in this division, including the top 2 teams. Can our pass defense step up? Those are the big question marks. Will be a good game.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
Twitter @Rcklarue
I agree.
Everyone talks about this team as if it was an expansion team. They forget we have a solid defense and a decent running attack. They forget how many wins we squandered last year with Pick6 Palmer at the helm.
If we stay simple, avoid turnovers, and control the clock, we are going to do pretty well this year against this schedule. Hopefully that starts on Sunday!
i cant wait for our d-line to meet their o-line
and everyone in cleveland to go “wtf just happened?”
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
cleveland alwaysgets over hyped
the so called experts always say there going to turn it around and then the bengals do better then them. Im glad im abengals fan I dont get the feeling we are good from the media, so its only can get better. also as the debate for who i hate more i hate the steelers the most. Why do you ask? In ohio there are so many bandwagon pittsburgh fans who suck i havnt really met any ravens bandwagon fans. also i see steeler fans cheering when our players get injured and root for them to injure. ravens play tough but pittsburgh is just plain dirty with late hits or hits that are close to late hits. also as others say we can beet the rat birds. as always i root for a physical game with many injuries.
by bengalsfanforlife on Sep 7, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
The A## Clown Colin Cowherd is at it again
He says Cleveland is a lock and he thinks they are going to kill the Bengals. He also was advising people in a survivor pole to take the Browns. He says either Arizona who plays Carolina or Cleveland who plays us are the locks. He’s a duesh bag, I hope he takes the Browns and we beat them by 50!!!
If the Colt Mccoy of the preseason shows up it will be a rough one for us
It really depends on our offense and if they can get going early.
2011 Year of the Red Rifle
guys over at DBN are laughing about this post from Clevelands sportwriter:
calling dalton an idiot and a bungel.
who’s ready for sunday?
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
#1 thing I want to see:
Our run defense completely annihilate Peyton Hillis. We owe him for last year!
by JoeskiBroski on Sep 7, 2011 4:39 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
What to look for
Andy Dalton will get a steady diet of blitz’s starting in his first series. Depend on it.
If the Brown Trouts can stop our run, then Andy Dalton will be running for his life. This game will be reel one in “Welcome to the NFL Rookie”.
Whitworth I expect a Pro Bowl caliber game, nobody touches him from the blindside.
Andre Smith is one of my worries. He wasn’t good pass blocking last year, so he better have improved a ton for Dalton’s sake.
Guards with a rookie and Livings are the shortest path to Dalton on a drop back. This is where I expect the pressure to come.
Call for more roll outs
The nice thing about AD is he is actually pretty athletic. If the guard position is giving up too much up the middle they can call roll outs to get AD out of the pocket. I think he will be fine and they will game accordingly to get the ball out of his hands quickly but I really think they are more than likely planning to just ram the ball down there throats with the run game most of the time
the best thing the bengals can do if they blitz.
screen. and screen often.
we fail to do that, blame the loss on the coaches. we attempt to do it and fail, blame the players. we have the offensive plan, pieces, and players to keep the blitz off dalton’s back.
" I for one, welcome our new Buffalo overlords. " - Whokebe
Cleveland gets the sympathy vote
If it were not for Art Modell moving the Browns and Lebron leaving the Cavs that city would hands down be (is) the worst sports city in America. They garner sympathy from the media and live off it. The teams in Cleveland are constantly garbage.
They talk about us, hell that city is just lucky to have an NFL team. What I find extremely funny is the fact they lost the “Ravens” and that team went on to be the powerhouse it has been over the last decade or so.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
Twitter @Rcklarue
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