The 2011 Cincinnati Bengals Are Going To The NFL Playoffs Following 24-16 Loss To The Ravens
by Josh Kirkendall on Jan 1, 2012 7:21 PM EST
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PrintEntering the final week of the regular season, the Cincinnati Bengals had one mission left to accomplish. By beating the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday, the Bengals earn their spot in the postseason, claiming the sixth and final seed and their third ten-win season in seven years. If the Bengals lost on Sunday, they needed help from around the league to, at the very least, back themselves into the playoffs.
And that’s exactly what happened. Miami’s 19-17 win over the New York Jets immensely helped Cincinnati’s playoff scenarios if the Bengals lost to the Ravens. The only thing remaining was a loss by either the Denver Broncos or the Oakland Raiders. Around 7:12 p.m. EST, the Kansas City Chiefs beat the Denver Broncos 7-3 and the Cincinnati Bengals were guaranteed a spot in the 2011 NFL Playoffs.
Let that soak for a moment. The 2011 Cincinnati Bengals have claimed a berth for the 2011 NFL playoffs. It’s like an orgy rolling off the tongue, fireworks exploding in the Queen City as a second New Year party is in store.
That being said you don’t want Cincinnati ending the regular season with a 24-16 loss to the Baltimore Ravens. After quickly establishing a lead after Ray Rice exploded through the line of scrimmage on a 70-yard touchdown, Cincinnati went three and out. Baltimore put together a 59-yard field goal drive that extended Baltimore’s lead to 10 points. Baltimore eventually built a half-time lead of 17-3 and the Bengals, largely due to self-destruction (and a little help from the officials), appeared dead in the water. But then that’s how these predators trick their pray; unimposing, unthreatening to their enemies as they coil to strike in the second half.
But Cincinnati would fall short.
Thanks to a strong defensive outing to start the third quarter, forcing four straight punts, Cincinnati’s offense made a valiant comeback effort reducing Baltimore’s lead to four points. Andy Dalton and the offense pushed the football to Baltimore’s 43-yard line with 7:26 remaining in the game when Terrell Suggs forces a Jermaine Gresham fumble that was recovered by the Ravens. Three plays later and Ray Rice explodes down for a huge 51-yard touchdown to eventually beat the Bengals 24-16.
The Cincinnati Bengals will head to Houston next weekend for a rematch against the Texans, who won the regular season contest on week 14. Cincinnati held a nine-point lead into the fourth quarter when the Texans put together consecutive possessions of 13 plays to beat the Bengals 20-19.
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Hope we don't have to face those ref's again!!!!
by BamaBengal on Jan 1, 2012 7:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1
how the hell can we expect to beat the ravens when reff’s in both games call plays agianst us!
by Christian Gaarde Nielsen on Jan 1, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
How in the hell could they miss that interference call at the end against AJ.....
the ref was standing a few feet away. They must have been cold and just wanted the game to be over, rediculous. Oh well, we’re in.
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 1, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
I do not like to complain about the refs
Because it’s our job to take care of business regardless. Now having said that, this was by far the worst officiated game I have ever seen. It was so bad I feel Marvin actually needs to file a complaint with the league office (not that it will do anything). If I was a Pittsburg fan (which I’m not) I’d thinking about filing a complaint as well. It was just horrible.
With that said, it’s time to move on because we are in PLAYOFFS!!! Here we come Houston Who Dey Baby!!!
Well said…I was at the game and it was unreal!! Hard to beat the Ravens & the refs…
by Bdub14 on Jan 1, 2012 9:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wonder if the playoff game was at home
would it sell out?
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:25 PM EST reply actions
14 straight losses to playoff teams
going into next weekend’s game.
THat’s almost a whole season!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
huh, wasn't it 14 straight losses to teams with winning records a week ago?
Pretty quick change of tune there, y’know.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
it's about the same
What matters in other cities is beating good teams and winning Super Bowls.
Not here.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, the Jets made the playoffs two years ago at 9-7 and look where they got.
With a rookie QB who’s a lot worse than ours, no less.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
you're ridiculous
Of course we want superbowls.
We’ve been battling the ineptitude of a shitty owner who thinks nepotism and lackeydom for 20 years.
We’ve suffered with squads that have depth consisting of second stringers off of midlevel college teams. We had Bresnahan and Bratkowski and players mired in themselves.
I know it ain’t popular to defend Marvin, but something has gone better over the last decade… losing seasons are the minority (3). Yes, there have been two miserable 4 win seasons (and a kind of miserable 10 win season in 2009 ;)). He has built a team with a pretty decent defense and some depth at multiple positions.
I think we still need to reconsider the offensive line coaching situation… that seems to be one consistent underperforming area for the Bengals. This cat is riding the coattails of Max Montoya and Anthony Munoz still… he’s had superb lineman in the last 10 years and can’t patch a fucking hole. (why do we always seem to have two or three lineman who are starters at positions they never saw in college?)
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
I think you mean he can't make a ****ing hole.
/gogorunblocking
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I stand corrected...
let my emotions get me there… I did edit one out of the subject line
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
haha it's cool
malor does that to me pretty easily with unbiased flacco love
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Isnt about deserving it
Win a sloppy game next week then what?
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
then we set off fireworks!
obviously.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
You think MB
will splurge for fireworks? He has changed some things this year…
by WHYUS!! on Jan 1, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
sparklers for everyone!
*valid only in sections 340 and 315. Recipients must be left handed and allergic to peanuts
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
by supergrover on Jan 1, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
doesn't matter
win or go home from here on, we made the playoffs with a ton of rookies, shoulda won Hou, S.F and Balt x2, to me, our path looks pretty good, Hou, then N.E, who has no D and a rematch with either Balt or Pitt, I like our chances…seriously
Seattle didn't deserve it last year
And look at what they did.
by KD1 on Jan 1, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
If we don't deserve it than witch team does?
Really witch team? They had their chance and blew it. So what team?
by Bigcatdaddy on Jan 1, 2012 9:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
witch team? I think that’s the Saints..they live in voodoo land
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Nah, I'm thinking Denver.
Tebow’s faith is secretly a cover-up for black magic.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
the eagles for one
but no one in the afc
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jan 1, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
People we fell in shit and came out smelling like a rose this year!
Ha Ha! Who Dey!!!!!!!!
by D-Day77 on Jan 1, 2012 7:26 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Awesome!
This is their best chance to win a playoff game since 91’.
by DonMegga on Jan 1, 2012 7:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Everybody wins
Bengals get in, Ravens get the bye.
Pittsburgh plays Big Ben and gets the shaft!
Good luck in NE (since I already have you guys penciled in as beating Houston)
I'd just be thrilled to beat the Texans
Against the Patriots? One word: bloodbath.
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 1, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
I just have visions of Gronk and Aaron Hernandez
shredding the Bengals defense
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 1, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
totally
but I don’t think the Bengals can beat the Texans on the road, either.
It would be unprecedented in so many ways!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
Not the way Mediocre Marvin manages a game
he gets up by 7 and it’s Ced Benson off tackle on every frickin’ play. Bengals have very few blowout wins during the Mediocre Marv era.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
dude
call the suicide hotline. it’s not all that bad
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
Am with you.........
for a team no one expected anything out of, all of a sudden everyone is down because we made the playoffs. This isn’t 2009, we have some weapons, we have a good D and we can play on ST. We have just as good a chance as anyone, we have no pressure on us because we have already exceeded so many expectations. This is a young team, they don’t care about our history and current streaks. It’s time we start writing new ones………….
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 1, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Once again we compete against a top level team and fall just short in the 4th quarter.
I will blame it on a young team needing to gain experience on how to play against the top teams in the NFL. This Ravens game and the upcoming Playoff Game on the road will be great experience for this team!
+1,000.........
this team was expected to do nothing and now has a great chance to advance past round 1. No one could’ve asked for more prior to this season. Who Dey?!!
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 1, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Oh and we should also add that this season brought us extra picks including
2 First rounders or a first and second rounder. Add that to a young exciting team and there is a ton to be excited about.
Who cares how we got in, we're in..........
we can’t be picky about a playoff berth. I would rather be riding a 4-5 game win streak, but how about starting that streak next week……..and then, who knows? Packers last year, Steelers couple years ago…worked out pretty well for them. Who Dey?!! We’re still alive!
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 1, 2012 7:31 PM EST reply actions
Packers didn't limp into the playoffs.
They won towards the end of the year. Poor play calling and clock management, the staple of a Marvin Lewis offense.
by sgiridharan1982 on Jan 1, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Very true
An undefeated season means absolutely nothing now. We’re in now and should be happy for this young and exciting team.
WHO DEY!
+1
It’s wide open on the AFC side…….
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 1, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
??
Whos beating, GB, NO or maybe even……Det
by quickslant on Jan 1, 2012 8:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh man
It reminds me of 2009. One and done. But AJ Green was robbed on the PI.
You don't think we have a shot against Houston?
I’d disagree. I think Houston is very winnable. We may not win, but I think we have a much better shot this year then we did in 2009!
Absolutely.........
we should have beat them 2 weeks ago, they are down to like they’re 5th string QB and all the pressure is on them. Great situation for us to advance……….
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 1, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
I think we have a great shot
But remember this is the Bengals. I’m a big fan but we aren’t a consistent team. So I’m going to taper my expectations.
by sgiridharan1982 on Jan 1, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. We aren't to the point where any game is a gimme.
We could easily lose, but we are in and have a great shot at winning.
In the end this season is a HUGE success in my opinion because we found an elite WR, Young QB that has potential to be a Franchise QB, gained some extra high draft picks, gained Playoff Experience, etc…..
now i will be cynicial again
I wanted to be positive but it ain’t working.
OK I do see this – the wild card teams both win and that means CIN-NWE and PIT-BLT in the divisionals.
I like our chances all of a sudden.
Then again – won’t surprise me if we lose to Delhomme (fourth QB to starter for HOU this year)
by david in upstate SC on Jan 1, 2012 7:33 PM EST reply actions
Delhomme was not the first string
The game was meaningless to the Texans, they were playing their backup. They’ve been injured enough at QB to not risk Yates.
if the bengals would have scored touch downs insted of 3 point marvins
thay would have won. HAY MARVIN GROW SOME NUTS.
by mike111 on Jan 1, 2012 7:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dude just had his best season,save that shit for another day!!
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
by keithp on Jan 1, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with you about being a good season.
But my expectations are high. And I want a consistent product. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.
by sgiridharan1982 on Jan 1, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
+1
WHAT IS HAPPENING TO PEOPLE….
How can there be so many so called “fans” on this site that complains when their “favorite” team is in the playoff!
How’bout cheering and support the bengals team or join another team instead?
WHO DEY!
by Christian Gaarde Nielsen on Jan 1, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
no shit. driving me nuts
see my sig:
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
too late for that
he should just be moved up to GM/director of football operations
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
man the refs almost
Made this game unwatchable. How is green not interfered with on the 2nd to last play of the game. But I could care less I just wanted to get in. I knew once jets got beat we would make it. I was confident that atleast one of denver or Oakland would get beat. Turned out they both did sweet! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by Jasonistheman11 on Jan 1, 2012 7:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
man the refs almost
Made this game unwatchable. How is green not interfered with on the 2nd to last play of the game. But I could care less I just wanted to get in. I knew once jets got beat we would make it. I was confident that atleast one of denver or Oakland would get beat. Turned out they both did sweet! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by Jasonistheman11 on Jan 1, 2012 7:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
agreed
The refs calling the weakest penalties on us and not calling obvious ones on the Ravens made this game much easier for Baltimore. If not for that fumble we may have got the win despite the refs favoritism.
Yup.
Nate Clements putting his hand a on a Baltimore TE’s hip = penalty.
AJ Green getting absolutely mugged in the end zone = play on.
The upside to this is that Pittsburgh has to go to Baltimore to make the AFC Championship game, and that benefits us. There ended up being nothing for the Bengals to gain by winning this game. Now, we get Houston (which we should win), at New England (best possible 2nd round matchup for us), then at Baltimore, which is a much better matchup for us than at Pittsburgh. This team continues to grow up, has a great core of young players, and a bunch of draft picks the next few years to help supplement the core. WHO DEY!
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
I was at a sports bar in Clearwater, Florida and we had a corner of the bar full of about fifteen Bengals fans.
It was a blast. Too bad we couldn’t win the game, but it was awesome being able to watch the Broncos and Raiders games as well. Our little Bengals section exploded when Tebow threw that pick.
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape
and some of you effers are complaining about it being skunk weed.
jfc, the whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
... I still say it was a touchdown, got tammit.
by supergrover on Jan 1, 2012 7:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
HA HA
Since we also have a bright future I’d add that she told you she’d return tomorrow, and yet people are still complaining!
by C1ncy4Life on Jan 1, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
perfect
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
Also did it even matter than the Bengals sold out Paul Brown
This is exactly what the fans don’t want. A poor performance on the field.
Good Lord
Are you done whining yet? We’re going to the playoffs with rookies and a brand new OC and no offseason.
by miniglik on Jan 1, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm sorry I'm not jumping on the band wagon
I want consistency. Be my guest with being happy with a playoff berth. This is no different from 2009. I’m sorry but Bengals haven’t done anything to prove to me that they are anything more than an average team.
by sgiridharan1982 on Jan 1, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Uh, no
2009 we had an established team that was expected to win.
2011 we had a rookie QB, rookie WR, rookie OC, and were generally expected to fail miserably.
Very, very, VERY different.
2009 expected to win? You kidding me?
The 2009 the Bengals weren’t expected to win anything. In 2008, the Bengals were 4-11-1.
2011 is a definite surprise, but again I’m not convinced. Limping into the playoffs doesn’t instil confidence that the Bengals are a better than average team. The 49ers for example also did not have an off season, with a new head coach and a QB that was on the verge of being cut.
Your point is moot.
by sgiridharan1982 on Jan 1, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
No, sir, your point is moot.
Do you expect the 49ers to repeat this season?
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Do you expect the 49ers to repeat this level of quality next season
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
This is exactly why I'm bringing up the 49ers
I’m not saying they’ll repeat or they’ll flounder. Similarly with the Bengals, I want a bigger sample size than just every other year. I will be happy with a consistent product of success.
by sgiridharan1982 on Jan 1, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
Don't get me wrong
I’m happy with the Bengals this year (I’m very surprised). I think there is a future with this group of players. But I’m not going to be overly happy with mediocrity.
by sgiridharan1982 on Jan 1, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Oh alright
I understand your patience to jump on the bandwagon. But I side with people saying don’t rain on the parade. Wait till tomorrow or Tuesday, today’s a celebration. We made the playoff.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I completely understand
I am happy. Trust me, as a Bengals fan you know all too well with different coping strategies. But I’m here reading this blog and posting. So you know I’m a Bengals fan who cares about this team.
by sgiridharan1982 on Jan 1, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
yes
Good coach, successful everywhere he’s been.
Crappy division too.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
I got my years mixed up
I haven’t slept in 2 days, so sue me. We still had most of the pieces from our successful years and should have been expected to do well, all things considered
And the 49ers
actually have a younger opening day roster than the Bengals.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
No one really expected us to win in 2009.
This year is different, yeah, but we were supposed to suck back then as well.
How is it the same as '09?
We have a rookie QB and WR who can only get better, a potential at drafting a dynamic rookie back to take our offense to another level, we have a young TE and a young receiving core on a whole that can make this offense explosive for years. Signs are not pointing down. They were for Carson.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
and a third place schedule for 2012!
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
Yeh, I expect better too.
I hope Marvin guts the position coaches this year on the offensive side of the ball. That guy we got from Philly can stay but holy shit does Alexander need to go and maybe Hayes too.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I think the OL did a good job today
But I agree that PA needs to go.
by sgiridharan1982 on Jan 1, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
pass blocking, for the mostpart
run blocking was consistently bad
(actually, Dalton was often moving away from defenders, although not heavily most of the time until the very end)
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
Oh, and the Fighting Tebows are DONE in the playoffs.
I don’t see the Steelers falling for the triple option.
the Steelers will just grind Denver into powder
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I shared your optimism man…this is a classic “Steeler trap”
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
I'm willing to guarantee that your team wins in the first round.
I could easily see Tebow going around the edge on an option and James Harrison ending his career.
by sexsalad on Jan 1, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah this is one of the few times I can say this
GO STEELERS!!!!
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 1, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Why would you want the Steelers to ever win?
I’m rooting for the Broncos and everybody else to beat them!
Follow me on Twitter @BonnieBengal
why?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
lol. That sucks…
You hate them more than the Ravens?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
I classified the Steelers as a franchise I hated for a while, but I'm finding it tougher.
I always want them to lose for divisional purposes, don’t get me wrong. But they’re a truly great franchise, and I think the dirtiness is overplayed.
I agree with it being over played (and it’s not a homer comment, I’d have no problem facing it if I thought it was true)
But yeah.. I don’t know..I’m kind of with you..I just don’t get the hatred.
If I did hate one team..it would be the Browns, and even then, it’s only their fans. Cheering injuries etc..plus go look at their site…all they care about is hoping other people’s lives can be as miserable as theirs…sad stuff
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Order of hate
1. Pittsburgh
2. Houston
3. Cowboys
4. Baltimore
the rest I care less about, go Broncos just to see the towels turned into snot rags
Why would Cowboys be that high? or Houston? The mean nothing to you guys…
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
but, they weren’t really. It’s a whole new team, the Oilers are in Tenn now.
But whatever, people have different reasons for different situations .It’s all good
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Just like the Browns are in Baltimore now, right?
Oh wait…
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Hmmm, that makes no sense to me.
1. Pittsburgh
2. San Francisco
3. Baltimore
In terms of who ruined more Bengals seasons…
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Order of hatred
1. Pittsburgh
1a. Baltimore
2. Jets
3. Indy/NE
4. Chicago
Being a closet Lions fan adds Chicago to the list. The Browns are too pathetic to hate.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
mine
1.AFC North as a whole
2. rest of league
that simple
by david in upstate SC on Jan 1, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
you hate the Broncos that much?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
I hate Tim Teblow
and the media slobbering over him.
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 1, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
I like the guy
He seems likeable enough. And I certainly would never root for the Steelers just so Tebow would lose. Ever.
Follow me on Twitter @BonnieBengal
I actually don't hate him.
But I want the Steelers to destroy him so all the Bronco love ends. I mean, I’ve never seen an average team with a below average QB get this much coverage. And I want them to get murdered as a message that the triple option won’t work long in the NFL.
Who care about Bronco love
More important that a strong team like the Steelers be eliminated from the playoffs no matter who does it. This is about making the Bengals chances better.
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you really think the Steelers are the Bengals biggest obstacle?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
true..but there is a strong possibility that the Steelers won’t make it out of the first round
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
lol, did you happen to catch today’s Steeler game against a MUCH weaker opponent?
It’s the Steelers… yes, they win games, but it’s ALWAYS a nail biter
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
your force is no good in here
obi wyt
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
lol…my force? I’m being serious
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
was a star wars reference :)
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
yeah I know…But I was wondering why you referenced it in that situation
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
oh, just messin'
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
The game comes down to defense.
A lot depends on Denver getting their defense back up to the level they were playing at during their win streak. If they can do that, it’s a tough, tough game for you guys. If they can’t, it should be a relatively easy win for you guys.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I think the Bengals have a lot of obstacles
But if a weaker team (Broncos) manages to eliminate a stronger team (Steelers) that is good for the Bengals.
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Doesn't matter
I love the Bengals, but I don’t give them a chance in hell of going to New England and beating the Patriots (after a win against the Texans)…..I don’t care how bad their defense has been.
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 1, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
They said the Giants wouldn't beat the Pats the year they won the SB. I'm just sayin.
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That Giants team came into the playoffs
having won about 6 or 7 straight, including a bunch of tough games on the road.
This Bengals team has lost 14 straight games to playoff teams.
You can’t tell there’s a huge (grand canyon size) difference?
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
no shit, what's his problem... the bengals are in the playoffs
and that just sucks
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
Giants were a lot more solid
defensively, and a more experienced team than these Bengals. Giants was also a neutral site game won on a fluke play at the end, and the Giants nearly beat the Pats in the regular season.
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 1, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Did you see the Patriots play the Redskins?
They were outplayed, and the Bengals are better at pretty much everything than the Redskins.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
+1
Get the Steelers out as soon as possible. They are still the best team in the AFC.
by California Bengal Fan on Jan 2, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
I'm never rooting for a Pittsburgh team
Tebow or no Tebow.
by KD1 on Jan 1, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
I would
At least the Steelers have done plenty to earn their respect. Teblow’s team pulls a couple games out of their butts and suddenly he’s the second coming….the fact that they have lost the last three games hopefully has put the damper on the Tebow deification
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 1, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
understandable… At the same time..I don’t think it’s Tebow’s fault..so I can’t hate him personally.
I can however say….he is a freaking godawful QB
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Well, I appreciate that of course…but still..it’s “Good” vs “Evil”…
our offense has been….what’s the word…..
never mind, can’t think of a good enough word to describe how awful they are right now
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Honestly, I don't think you're going to need your offense to do a whole lot.
I’d be shocked if the Steelers scored more than 10.
all I can say is..I hope you’re right.
I still say they need to be up at least 2 scores with less than 2 minutes
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
I think the teams that fall into the Teblow
effect don’t realize that the key is stepping on Denver’s throat for the 3 quarters of the game where Teblow is 3 of 15. Steelers generally don’t play like that. They will keep scoring and not step off the gas against that kind of opponent. The teams who get caught up by Denver are teams that get a small lead and just go all conservative.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Or the teams that don't have a good offense
See: Bears without Cutler
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 1, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
All teams are 0-0 now. this is a new season.
by D-Day77 on Jan 1, 2012 7:39 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Saw a great line on Twitter:
Carson Palmer has now taken the Bengals to the playoffs for the third time. LOL!!! I guess he did.
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by BonnieBengal on Jan 1, 2012 7:41 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Great stuff...........
Great stuff, thank you again Oakland Raiders.
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 1, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
HAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
That’s awesome.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
Excess Baggage!
The Bengals are carrying far too much dead weight in too many key areas on the team. Let’s see what trash is hauled out in order to establish a real and purposeful new beginning for this team as it moves forward. It appears to be the same highly-touted “usual persons of interest” continuing to live by their standards and not the higher standards of the organization. There must be a change of the guard with the right type of go-getters on every snap of the ball, it’s very apparent that all personnel are incapable of getting it done. Just a thought!
Well put
Theyre close though! Bring on Houston
by quickslant on Jan 1, 2012 7:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Only positive thing is that Balt won division instead of Pitt
That is worth a victory in my book any day. Win or lose the game we were still headed to Houston. 9-7 record that I predicted when they were 4-2 equals a playoff win, and 9-7 at the beginning of the year seemed unachieveable. Congrats to Bengals and hope they go all the way.
a 3rd SF/Cin superbowl?
Two positive things: 1) B-more won division 2) We made the playoffs anyways
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 1, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
If we can win one game and get this playoff monkey off our back I will be happy.
Everything else is a bonus. As far as Pittsburg and Baltimore, it is hard to beat a team three times. New England has been knocked our early the last few years. Anything can happen.
by D-Day77 on Jan 1, 2012 7:44 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Amen
As I said, a win in the playoffs in super unprecedented right now. 21 years since the last one, and 14 straight losses to playoff teams since early 2010 (last win over playoff team was over the Ravens early last year)
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
I am usually the last person to complain about officiating but HOLY GOD that was some horrible officiating
I didn’t see, but did those refs ask for Ray Lewis’ autograph before the game?
Too bad this is only your first or second Ravens game this year.. It’s been that way all year
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Was the same way for you guys huh?
inb4ravenspackerssuperbowl
Seriously, some of that officiating was like HOLY HELL MAN. Four straight penalties on one drive was ridiculous, the no-call PI at the end of the game….
- you Baltimore. You and your half-rate QB.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
YES.
DOT YOU.
DOT YOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUU
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
by Doc Scratch on Jan 1, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It was…but I don’t like to go that rout when my team is in it. However, when I’m watching the team and my team isn’t in it, I have no problem with it. The amount of drives the Ravens have had this year in which they were basically walked down the field is staggering.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
the main call was the pass to AJ Green in the end zone
it’s clear pass interference – and that makes it 1st and goal with 2 seconds left. They can’t miss a call like that. Imagine if the Super Bowl was decided like that.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Although
It looked like AJ was pushing off too….but yeah it was pretty bad. The refs were brutal this game.
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 1, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
There was hand-fighting both ways
before the jersey pull-down…..I agree he definitely had the jersey
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 1, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Nope it was clear interference
Not even a question
THeir second TD was basically gift wrapped by the refs
Started the ball 19 yards further down the field then they should have and then gave them about 40+ more yards on ticky tack nonsense.
Not to mention
The ball that was downed at the one, the penalty on nelson for making a good tackle, the penalty on clements for grabing the reciever’s waist for a split second, gresham’s pass interference for touching the defender,
and others
Bingo.
The illegal contact on Clements was bullshit, especially in light of the absolute mugging A.J. Green got in the end zone that was ruled a no-call.
Nelson’s hit was an absolute textbook on the correct way to hit a receiver. Pittsburgh makes at least 7 hits worse than that every game that don’t get called. Nelson went shoulder-pad-to-shoulder-pad and gets called. Polamalu (and Harrison, and Clark…) can lead with his helmet the entire game, and doesn’t draw a single flag.
Gresham’s offensive PI………………I don’t even know……………………you can’t even bitch about it, because there was literally nothing remotely close to drawing a call. I have no idea what was being watched there.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
+10000
Too as lesser extent I could even argue about them overturning Ced’s 1rst down in the 1rst half. When it’s that close it’s conclusive video evidence to overturn on replay and challenge and I think it’s really difficult to that on a spot
I thought that was a terrible spot when they made it.
I was 0% surprised when they overturned it. The only thing I kept clinging to while the review was happening was “They very rarely overturn a spot.” that was a bad spot in the first place.
Now, I’d have run a QB sneak on 4th down and picked up the first, but that’s a separate issue.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
just dropping in to say good game from a Ravens fan and our team still was able to get what we wanted in the end.
I was suprised that the ravens secondary kept AJ. Green in check well not too suprised but I thought I would see more from him
Clearly it was and the refs stared at it when it happened
and no flag.. WTF?
by WHYUS!! on Jan 1, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You may not have seen all your going to see of AJ this year,be careful there!
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Where is the Raiders draft pick?
My guess is about 17th pick since they finished 8-8.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:49 PM EST reply actions
Also, what were reactions to that helmet-to-helmet call on Reggie?
I thought it was absurd. It was shoulder to chest, which is about as clean as it gets.
It was absoulutely absurd.
Honestly, the NFL HAS to address those kind of ridiculous calls in the offseason. It’s getting tough to continue to watch the games with those kind of calls constantly!
It was shoulder to chest
but they will turn it around and say he was defenseless. His helmet never touched the other helmet.
The thing is the refs have been told to throw the flag
if there is any question. That is resulting in WAY TOO many flags!
Has to be addressed!
It won't.
If it was a Steeler, or a Patriot, or a Packer who drew the flag on a textbook perfect it, it would be addressed.
It was a Bengal, so it won’t be.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
Lol. you must not watch too many Steeler games. If you did, you wouldn’t have mentioned them in that comment.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
But if it was a Steeler James Harrison would be sure to bitch about it to the media.
You have to admit that.
I wouldn’t really call it bitching. yes..he has in the past, but most of the time he uses the opportunity to point out the hypocrisy of the NFL (which is true no matter who you root for, unless it’s the Pats, or Packers)
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
don't forget the ratbirds
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Uggh…The calls they get make me actually consider believing that the NFL/Goodell does actually hate the Steelers…
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
I watch a ton of steeler games.
they absolutely do get called for a bunch of “lead with their helmet” hits. But, that’s because they consistently lead with their helmets. If they were judged by the same standard as the Reggie Nelson call, they’d have no less than 10 personal foul calls per game. But, they can’t do that, so they let most of the Steelers’ helmet hits go.
They don’t get called because they’re being targeted, they get called because they consistently lead with their helmets. They dont’ get called enough for it, honestly.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
they get called because they consistently lead with their helmets. They dont’ get called enough for it, honestly.
this refutes
this
I watch a ton of steeler games.
I think what you meant to say was “I read a ton of biased Yahoo articles”
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Your argument is that Polamalu doesn't consistently lead with his helmet?
You probably think that Harrison hit on McCoy was just “Pittsburgh Steeler Football,” don’t you?
Problem is, the officials don’t allow the Bengals to play “Pittsburgh Steeler Football.” The flag on the Nelson hit is Exhibit A. There is a zero percent chance Troy Polamalu or Ryan Clark gets flagged for that perfectly legal, shoulder-pad-to-shoulder-pad hit. They only get flagged when somebody leaves the game with a concussion.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
dont even get me started on that horsehockey flag
that was terrible….fans were throwing bottles everywhere….looked like a darn Cleveland game
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 1, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Lol.. Keep going with the herd mentality boss.
Lol.. Keep going with the herd mentality boss.You imagined my argument.
If I had one, it would be simple. less than a tenth of a percent of the defensive plays isn’t “consistently”
Lol.. Keep going with the herd mentality boss.You imagined my argument.
If I had one, it would be simple. less than a tenth of a percent of the defensive plays isn’t “consistently”Way to try to put words in my mouth about the Harrison hit though.
BTW.. that is further proof that I am right about what I said. the (read a ton of biased yahoo articles part)
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
I can't remember a single Yahoo NFL football article I've read this year.
I like their college football writers a lot, and their fantasy writers (both MLB and NFL) are good, but the NFL writers I read most often are Peter King and Bill Simmons, neither of whom have anything remotely resembling a vendetta against the Steelers. My opinion on the Steelers is based solely on observation, not on anything I’ve read.
Despite the fact that you acknowledged my argument about the Harrison hit, you never gave me your opinion on it. Was that dirty, or just “Pittsburgh Steeler Football.” And, would you be OK with Carlos Dunlap putting the crown of his helmet on Roethisberger’s chin like that? Hopefully, we’ll get a chance to argue again in the AFC title game.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
How did I acknowledge your argument about the Harrison hit? I didn’t even respond to it, because you assumed you knew how I felt about it. Why bother with that? You’re imagination is very wild..
And yes..I hope you get a chance too…Then you won’t have anything left to say.
As far as whether or not I’d be ok with Dunlap hitting Ben. I’ve come to accept the fact that there are different rules when Ben is involved. I just move on.
You’re irrational arguments and ridiculous assumptions are quite boring. So. enjoy your Browns fan mentality
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
You said, "Way to put words in my mouth about the Harrison hit."
Therefore, you acknowledged the argument. If I was putting words in your mouth, feel free to tell me how I got your argument on that hit wrong. Do you believe it was a dirty hit?
And, if you belive (as I do) that it was a dirty hit, then obviously my argument wasn’t irrational.
However, if you don’t believe that it was a dirty hit, then it seems my assumption was not ridiculous (since the only assumption I made was that, as a Pittsburgh homer, you would likely have no problem with the clearly illegal hit James Harrison made on Colt McCoy).
So, if anybody here has contradicted themself, it would be you.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
are you kidding? You seriously think me saying “way to put words in my mouth” means that I’m saying you correctly called what I was thinking? ugggh…
Tell your parents I’m sorry.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
No, that's not what I said at all.
In fact, it’s exactly the opposite.
By saying, “way to put words in my mouth,” you’re implying that I’ve mis-stated your opinion on that hit, not that I correctly called anything.
You acknowledged the argument. You didn’t say if I was right or wrong in my argument (and, tellingly, still haven’t), but you showed that you read what I said, then chose to ignore it.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
I’m not saying you mis stated, I’m pointing out the very obvious fact that you assumed that I would call the play a good football play. Why is this confusing?
My opinion on this matter means absolutely nothing. It is completely irrelevant to your “they consistently lead with their helmet” b.s It’s also irrelevant to the fact that, for some reason you think they get a free pass while “consistently leading with their helmets”
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Your opinion on the matter means everything...
Since you’ve tried to make the assertion that the Steelers get unfairly flagged for legal hits. Yet, when I ask your opinion on a blatantly illegal hit, you say “my opinion on this matter means absolutely nothing.”
You can’t have that both ways.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
no…that was actually your assertion. Along with the assertion that they get away with it all the time, and consistently lead with the helmet. Do you have add?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
You know the Steelers have a very nice site
You should invite BLee over there to continue this discussion so I can stop scrolling up the page.
by emeybee on Jan 1, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t even think that you know what your point is.
I’ll refresh you. You said Steelers players “consistently lead with their helmets”
All the other shit you’ve said is related to you venting. It don’t matter what I say, your comments will be the same.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
My point was that Steelers' players consistently lead with their helmets
You argued that, on the contrary, the Steelers get unfairly flagged for legal hits.
I argued that you’re full of shit, and offered up the example that you probably think that the Harrison hit on McCoy, a blatantly illegal hit, was somehow clean.
You’ve made 5 (now 6, as I wrote this one) posts since I made that argument, and haven’t once offered your opinion on whether the blatantly illegal hit Harrison put on McCoy should have been flagged.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
Do you have reading comprehension problems?
I said Clark has been unfairly flagged and fined for two hits this year. That is Clark. That is those two hits…that is the beginning and the end, the alpha and omega..that’s it…
the rest is (as usual) your imagination.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
You tell me where my reading comprehension has gone awry.
I said, “If a Steeler got flagged for that texbook hit, the NFL would address it.”
You said, “If you watched Steeler games, you wouldn’t say that.”
I said, “I watch a ton of Steeler games, and the point stands. They often lead with their helmet, and get away with it.”
You said, “Nuh-uh, they get flagged for legal hits all the time.”
I said, “Do you belive the Harrison hit on McCoy was one of those ‘legal hits’?”
You still (what….8, 9 posts later?) haven’t answered.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
I said, "If a Steeler got flagged for that texbook hit, the NFL would address it."
well..there you go. Clark got flagged and fined for a textbook hit on Dickson from Balt…nothing happened, so you’re wrong, case closed..
BTW..you didn’t ask whether I thought it was a legal hit, your words were, and I quote “you probably think….etc”
See the difference? Now respect the other posters on here and drop it.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
cmon fellas
I know this is your touchy subject and I don’t think either of you are going to change minds.
it isn’t doing anything for your blood pressure. Lets agree to find the others to be reprihensible and move on to more jocular subjects, like the Browns.
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
I'm happy to move on
As soon as this guy stops telling me that I’m mis-representing his position on the Harrison-McCoy hit while simultaneously dodging my direct question as to what his position on the Harrison-McCoy hit is.
I’m completely fine with agreeing to disagree. When somebody says I’m deliberately mis-stating his position (i.e. lying), I’d appreciate an explanation.
Sorry if I’m forcing unneccesary scrolling for other users here. I just really hate being accused of lying when I’m making every effort to understand the other side’s argument.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
Well, that's why I'm trying to establish a standard....
Was the Clark hit on Dickson “Nelson-on-Pitta” legal, or “Harrison-on-McCoy” legal?
We still haven’t determined what you believe to be a legal hit.
I’ve given you several posts to tell me if I’ve mis-stated your position on the Harrison-McCoy hit. You’ve responded to me now 9 times, and despite telling me why the way I’ve stated my position is wrong, still haven’t told me whether my position is wrong.
If you’ll just tell me whether you believe the Harrison hit on McCoy was legal or dirty, I’ll be happy to drop it.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
Man…what don’t you get? I’m trying to keep this civil out of respect for the other people on the site…but what is it you want?
I’m not arguing what’s legal and not legal. Just re read what I typed…
I haven’t responded to what you want me to respond to because there is no need, it is not in any way relevant.
You said if it was a Steeler player, it would be different…but that’s bullshit…that’s it…
Just re read everything..that’s all you have to do
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
What I don't get....
I’ll put it in all bold and caps, so you can understand.
WHY DO YOU TELL ME I’M FULL OF SHIT ON YOUR OPINION ABOUT THE HARRISON-MCCOY HIT WHEN YOU SIMULTANEOUSLY DODGE MY DIRECT QUESTION ABOUT YOUR OPINION ON THE HARRISON-MCCOY HIT
I’m more than happy to keep it civil out of respect for other people on this site. But, when I’m called out for mis-stating somebody’s position, I’d appreciate it if they’d actually lay their position out so I can see where I’ve gone wrong.
That’s what I want.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
I have actually answered that question 3 times now. I’m sorry you didn’t see it.
I just don’t know any way to make it clearer.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
You could make it clearer by answering the question.
Because you haven’t. You haven’t even come close. The closest you’ve been to an answer was when you said, “You assumed I would call the play a good football play.” But that was in telling me why the way I framed my assumption was wrong. You didn’t tell me that my assumption was wrong, just the way I framed it.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
I have told you, my opinion on the Harrison his is irrelevant. That has nothing to do with your statement. You turned it in to an argument about your assumption that I would say it’s legal. It would help if you stayed on topic.
I could say “it was clean and legal” or I could say “it was illegal” it wouldn’t matter, just read your first comment.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
I'm shocked.
You said that you answered my question.
When I asked you what your answer to my question was, your response was “It doesn’t matter what my answer is.” That only works if you’re The Rock.
So, I’m glad to see that even you recognize that your opinion is irrelevant. At least we can agree on something. Have a good evening.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
your assumption was that if it was the Steelers involved..special treatment would be given. That’s the one and only argument. You’re wrong.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Also..Clark has been flagged and fined for 2 perfectly legal hits this year.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
x
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
It was a textbook correct hit.
Polamalu leads with his helmet all game, and gets nothing. Nelson makes a perfect tackle, exactly the type of play the NFL should be showing…..“this is how you hit to not get flagged”……..and gets a penalty. ridiculous.
I’m a guy who thinks defenseless receivers need to be protected, and head shots should be outlawed. And, that was awful.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
All I have to say is I hope Marvin grows a pair before next week
Twice early in the game on 4th and short he should have tried to make a statement. When you’re at midfield, if you don’t trust your offense to get 6 inches then you shouldn’t be playing the game.
by eric nyc on Jan 1, 2012 7:51 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
disagree
Bengals have been to inconsistent to go for it that early,where the ball was
have some faith in the defense
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
I get havign faith in the defense, but that first 4th down was 4th and a chain link.
You need to get that early in the game. It’s why we didn’t get ANY momentum until well into the 2nd half. We were playing scared and our coach wasn’t helping.
Down 7 at our own 30,if u dont get it,u give them 3 no matter what
i want a running game like that too,but thats just stupid to go for it then and there
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
You've been Marvin-ized
That’s what Marvin does. He plays the percentages and never takes chances and that’s why the guy is a .500 career coach almost on the nose. It’s like going to a caisno and always betting on red.
I dont ever want a coach that makes that call
Marvinized or not,like i said that’s just STUPID!
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
See that's the response I get from other Bengals fans all the time
It’s always “Make the safe call, make the safe call.” Try going to a Saints bar or a Patriots bar. Totally different mentality. Yes, they have better teams and have for a while, but the fans know you have to take chances to win in this league. If you just play the percentages, you’ll end up being a Marvin Lewis of a head coach.
Dude if you can find anybody who isnt playing some imaginary Madden football game
That say’s thats the right call
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Oh get over yourself
I’m not talking about going for it on 4th and 5 on your own 10 yard line. I’m talking about making a statemement in the biggest game of your NFL career on 4th and the laces of a football and saying to your VERY young offense “Don’t be scared of these guys, they’re not that tough.” If you can’t see why there’s value in that call in your own stadium then I dont’ know what to say…you enjoy a boring brand of mediocre football.
i can see it
Just the wrong call even if u get it its just at first down
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
69-74-1
and his record against playoff teams I believe is 14-45-1 (might be off by one or two in that count)
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Today we are going to the playoff's
Never mind Marvin took over a franchise that had not had a winning season in 14 years
He’s not going to the HOF but he is by far and away the best coach we have had sense Sam Wysche
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
+1
He easily could be coach of the year again. If Marvin was HC in a lot of other cities he’s have a terrific recorfd.
Yes, if he had a team with more talent, he would win more games...
What kind of a statement is that? So you know you have somewhat inferior talent, maybe you need to make up for it with some creative coaching from time to time. Or, you know, you could just coach the same team to a sub .500 record for almost a decade somehow…That’s always a viable option, apparently.
So which former Bengals coach do you prefer?
We’ve had so many after Paul Brown.
Point is, Marvin has came into an organization that done everything exactly WRONG and has took the laughing stock Bengals to the Playoffs multiple times, had multiple 8-8 years, and atleast one other year we lost the final game when we controlled our own destiny.
Marvin has been the major reason why we are no longer the laughing stock of the NFL. All while gaining more power in the Bengals organization and succeeding a little in helping modernize the Bengals!
+1
I don’t always agree with Marvin’s game management, but if we have to take that to get all the other improvements he’s made, so be it. Would we rather have Jamarcus Russell, Crabtree and a coach who properly calls time outs, or AJ/Dalton/Geno/Dunlap and a coach who makes us cringe once in awhile?
My wager is when he's done in Cincy
he never gets another NFL HC job. Like David Shula. The results just aren’t there. I mean results that would matter in almost every other NFL city where anything less than Super Bowl win means you aren’t good enough.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Like Clevland,u just wanna bitch
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
You do realize that only, like, 6 different teams have won the SB since Marvin's been here, right?
Should every other coach in the league besides the coaches of the Steelers, Patriots and the occasional underdog who wins one get canned as well?
Good point!
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
look what happens in San Diego
yep that’s the way the league works. People except here expect Super Bowls.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
I think you mean expect.
But, alright, let’s say you get your wish and Marvin gets canned. Who replaces him?
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I was thinking he could get old Ditka to go for us.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Someone better with some credentials
How about Chip Kelly.
Not that he’d want to come here.
But he might want to come to a team dedicated to winning.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
>Better
>With credentials
>Team dedicated to winning if Marvin goes
PFFTAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Ol’ Mikey may have made some insane moves but there’s no way he’s going to fire the one guy that he shows a semblance of trust and replace him with someone who gives that same amount of trust. There’s just no way. Firing Marvin would actually be a step backwards because that puts Mikey back in control again.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Right
that’s why most places they hire GM’s to find good qualified NFL guys. Here they hire a dude from a local high school to run football operations.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
...so wait you're arguing to fire Marvin
despite knowing that?
i don’t even
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
that's what I'm sayin!
Wish I would have refreshed first.
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
it's a separate argument
(a) Marvin is not good enough to win a Super Bowl
(b) THey need a GM to find someone who is good enough.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
so which would you prefer
taking a huge risk that could easily land us back in the dark ages
or continuing to accept the consistency of marvin in hopes that he puts together one incredible season?
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
uh
we’re discussing Mike Brown here. Are you blaming Marvin or the lack of GM? The GM thing probably will never change (fingers crossed) and Giggles is working, I think , pretty well given those parameters.
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
I'm saying the parameters are pretty lame
we can’t fire the coach after he goes 4-12 because our owner is too stubborn to hire a GM who can find a decent coach… so we have to be happy with mediocre coaches at best because nobody else is ever going to be found who can do better.
In other cities that would not fly. Only here.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
I don't care if he's mediocre
He’s had as many losing seasons as winning and that’s not counting the 8-8 ones. He’s consistent. Brown trusts him. And you can tell that despite how far we’ve come we still need a playmaker at RB, better OGs, and secondary help at least.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
and I care if he's mediocre
because accepting mediocre coaches as the best we can do is being Bengalized.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
I agree.
But simultaneously, I’d rather take Marvin because he is the best we can do and is our best shot at winning now. you want someone else, you wait until Brown retires or dies and Katie takes over.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I gif up
\okay, I jpg’d
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
/clap
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
other cities
are at home watching us in the playoff’s
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
How's that Marvin's fault?
Your blaming a lot of stuff on Marvin that he’s actually fought against and made more headway in a few years then anyone else has made ever against Mikey!
This guy isnt a Bengals fan
Your not married,
You never stop bitching
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
This is why
I responded to a post about 2 years ago and suggested Marvin for GM. Mikey trusts him. Probably never happen but I think that would complete this organization and the way MB wants to run it.
I would take that over the current situation
Marvin is not a good game day coach.
He certainly can’t run the organization any worse than Mikey.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Marvin has a say in that, too.
Maybe he really likes being a coach and wants to continue. He’d have to accept that setup before it could happen.
For FUKN Chip Kelly
dude your having severe concussion symptoms
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Thats just a dumbass remark
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Marvin-ized?
The man is a .500 career coached becaused he has been Brown-ized. This is the first year I felt that Marvin had control of things and I’ll take the results.
And frankly, Rices last touchdown should have been nullified by and illegal motion penalty.
That's the thing.
He’s not even playing the percentages. You’re 90% plus to make that. The percentage play is to go for it.
He’s going for the path of least resistance. If you punt, they question your players. If you go for it, they question the coaching.
If you’re worried about winning the game, and not who takes the blame if you lose, you go for those.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
Caveat.
I like Marvin. I think he’s a good coach. He’s doing what 95% of NFL coaches would do in the same spot. I’d like a coach who does it differently, but they are extremely few and far between.
Marvin’s mistakes are mistakes that 90-95% of NFL coaches make in the same situation. Marvin’s strong points as a coach are a consistent, disciplined approach that yields results when given a solid personnel set. I’d take that 1000x over a guy like Rex Ryan, who plays a whole bunch of mind games that wear thin after the 2nd time you hear him “guarantee” a victory.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
by BLee2525 on Jan 1, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
dingding****ingding
I can’t wait for Sanchez to be out of football after this year. I wonder if he’ll take Rex with him.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
i don't care if they get better
as long as they actually understand what humility is. for how successful brady and darth hoodie are in ne, they’re at least respectful and don’t flaunt victory.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
by Doc Scratch on Jan 1, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think your mistaken.
Your 90% plus to make it on MOST NFL teams. We’re playing the Ravens and Benson Rarely ever picks those up. Sure a QB sneak MAY work.
But say your right and we get it 90% of the time(well well above the NFL average on 4th and 1, btw). What’s that get you? First down on your own 30! Now what’s the odds that you continue your drive and get points?
If you don’t make it, your giving 3 points and a great percentage of the time 7 along with all the momentum.
But the thing is
if Marvin “went for it” he’d have called “Benson up the gut” and that has gotten stuffed far more often than it has succeeded this year.
So it’s not clear what to do, if your coach goes years where he doesn’t appear to be watching the same games you are.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
1 yard is different than 2 inches.
Any QB sneak in the world should be able to get 6 inches. Dan Deirdorf was talking about it during the Jets game wondering why more NFL teams didn’t do it because it works about 90% of the time.
It is, but then it comes down to the Refs spot.
Do you trust that? If you don’t get it, you’ve given the opponent 3 points and a lot of times 7 while completely giving them ALL of the momentum.
Remember the Harbaugh challenge on the spot that called the spot back a whole foot?
YEP. BENSON CAN’T GET A WHOLE FOOT WHEN NEEDED.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
How did that go on TV?
Because at the stadium it seemed the ref announced that it was 1st down, then changed his mind and it was suddenly 4th down.
They did announce a first down.
Ravens challenged. Replays didn’t show where the ball was, but it was clear that he didn’t get the first down though!
No I mean after the challenge
The ref came out and said it was upheld, 1st down… and then they measured and said just kidding, 4th down.
Oh, didn't see that but it was clear he didn't get it
I posted a comment that we got a great spot before any replays, and a few other posters posted “Lucky” or similar comments before the replay or challenge. He definitely didn’t get it though.
i disagree too
If they can’t make a 3rd and 1 why would they make in 4th and 1? Maybe if we had a better line, or a back who can move the pile, I’d be for it.
by JCompton41 on Jan 1, 2012 8:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We should have won this game
The momentum shifted after the Scott TD. Crowd and players were amped up we got a Defensive stop and the ball on the 50 and Benson comes back in. Slow drive only getting 3 and then again on the next drive Benson 2 yd run and fresh fumble.
I was there
honestly, those 8 yard runs by Benson would have been Td’s by Scott, got caught cause he’s slow
so why if everyone on earth can see how
ineffective Benson is, are the Bengals coaches unable to see it?
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
I noticed that
The Balt D was tiring at that point.
Scott opened up the running game and Benson closed it back up.
He is awful in short yardage situations as well.
Fumble get more playing time, score a TD get benched.
I think the Bengals still lead the NFL
running on 1st and 10. For two yards.
I cannot tell why everyone is so in love with the Gruden offense. Under Bratworst, they ran all the time on 2nd and 10. Under Gruden, they run all the time on 1st and 10. Both offenses are way below league average.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
they won 4 games under Brat!
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
I am sick of seeing that same right guard dive on 1st down
It has to be averaging 1.5 yards and I’d bet we call it on 80% of our 1st downs.
The thing most love about Gruden was the ability to pick Dalton and
coach him up as a rookie. With a strike shortened season and 2 inexperienced WR’s the passing game has looked much better than anyone could have expected.
DOWN 14 LET'S OPEN THIS DRIVE WITH A RUN PLAY
GOGO URGENCY AND NEEDING TO SCORE
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I dont know what your watching
This is a rookie QB,with no running game
WTF do you want
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
I was at the game so I didnt get to see alot of the replays
But it seemed as if every call went against us. I cant wait to rewatch the game on my DVR. We cant beat the REFS plus a team like Bmore. That drive right before half killed us!
by cincyboi on Jan 1, 2012 7:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
See my post at the bottom
The numbers were pretty close but the way they effected the game were not close at all
AJ Green = Optimus Prime
by Helmsy on Jan 1, 2012 8:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
But Bengals are in the playoffs anyway.
No matter how they got in their in! Nobody had them in this position, this team will be around for awhile. And the players in the nfl know that. Bengals get a lot of respect from other players
by cincyboi on Jan 1, 2012 7:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Season clearly a success, IMO
We have an exciting you QB who looks like a Franchise QB, we trade our former Franchise QB for a King’s ransom and now have a ton of picks the next 2 year’s, we have an elite young WR that will only get better, we have a lot of young pieces in the front of our Defense.
We clearly have some pieces to add, but this season is a huge success, IMO. What’s not to like from this season? I guess the Leon Hall and Shipley injury?
This feels different, to me
We struggled in the second half of the season, but to me, it doesn’t feel like the previous times we backed into the playoffs (‘05, ’09). Despite the usual Marvin flatness, I actually think we’ve played pretty well, the last few weeks. It’s been fluky things like fumbles and random big plays that have hurt us. This team feels more consistent, to me, even if the ceiling isn’t as high as past incarnations.
That said, I wish we’d drafted Ray Rice, instead of Simpson.
the bengals didn't effing back into the playoffs
they CERTAINLY didn’t do it in 2009, they won the fricking division and swept the division.
They did go in on a down note, having lost the last three, i think, and not looking good in doing anything for half the year, but that is not backing in.
They didn’t back in here either. All scenarios were in their favor, although it would be possible they could be eliminated.
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
what a difference a year makes
Exactly one year ago we sludged to the end of the most disappointing season ever, now we’re going to the playoffs after the most surprising season ever!!! I don’t care how it happened, were in….
by WhoDeyTim on Jan 1, 2012 8:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Praise Thor!
Front door, back door, teleportation… I don’t care how we got in, it’s playoffs. Put up or shut up.
Oh..I just want to say. Congratulations Bengals fans on your playoff berth!
Don’t matter how it happened, it happened.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Thanks, man.
And I agree that it doesn’t matter how it happened. We were a top six team in the AFC this year. Other teams had the opportunity, but couldn’t win. That’s their problem.
Thanks dood.
Even for a Squeelers fan, you’ve become a right regular around here and your input isn’t grating or condescending like half your fanbase usually makes. It’s a refreshing breath of air.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
mendenhall is out for the steelers and broncos.
He has a knee injury.
by D-Day77 on Jan 1, 2012 8:08 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Now that I think about it, there really weren't any injuries at all.
A Raven (I think McClain) got dinged up a little, but even that wasn’t a big deal.
I was there too
And I’m 99% sure we didn’t have any.
AJ Green = Optimus Prime
by Helmsy on Jan 1, 2012 8:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was this game today
And I’m tellin you the back judge #119 gave Baltimore 7 points before the half. If not for that it would have been 16-17 when we had the ball with 4 min left. Every time there was a timeout #119 went to the Ravens sideline. There was a roughing the passer call that happened right in front of him and he didn’t throw the flag. The ref on the other side of the field had to call it.
But oh we’ll. I had a good time and we are goin to to Houston!!!!!!!!!
AJ Green = Optimus Prime
by Helmsy on Jan 1, 2012 8:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Everything that could go wrong went wrong in the 1st half
Then the Bengals clamped down and took momentum… but the fumble was a KILLER… game of inches in the first half, all the inches went Baltimore’s way…
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
Speaking of inches........
we’ve got to find a way on shorter yardage situations to get it done. Although the line played much better run blocking in the 2nd half, we kept having to punt on 4th and 1/2. Those are conversions we have to have next week, I thouhgt Scott ran pretty well and picked up some nice chunks for us.
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 1, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
but they were really starting to convert them in the second half, but the fumble changed the momentum…
Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.
Alright!
I’m just going to say this once. I am glad to be in the playoffs, but If you can’t beat the teams that are in the playoffs, then what good is it to be in the playoffs? I don’t understand peoples thinking on this.
Yes!, we have a chance to win next week, but it would be soooo nice to beat teams that did what they were supposed to do to get there.
Maybe I’m wrong but making a statement will have to come next week I guess….
Don't forget........
we play in the best division in football right now. Yes, we went 2-4, but the AFC North is sending three teams to the playoffs, so it’s no slouch. I guess what I’m saying is, some other teams with higher seeds in the playoffs, aren’t even as good as all the teams in our division. We can beat Houston next week, even on the road.
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 1, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, really. why bother if you can't win the superbowl. just get 3 wins and take the money
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
Here's how it works in other NFL towns
You beat good teams, and you start expecting to compete for a Lombardi Trophy.
In this town, not so much.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
This team is a year or two ahead of schedule.
Making the playoffs is icing on the cake for a team that’s supposed to be rebuilding. We have nothing to complain about this year even if we lose in Houston. Phenomenal campaign from the young guys.
I we just beat them team we were supposed too
This season never happens
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
I think that BS
This is the NFL and you can see the talent on this team. There is something holding us back and it’s not the talented players. Nobody expected us to be here but nobody expected the 49ers to there too and they are a 2 seed. Look at the Broncos??!!
Something
happened and it didn’t post my whole response.
But any way, This is the NFL and we have the talent to win. Something is holding us back. Nobody thought the 49ers would be in the playoffs and they are a 2 seed. Look at the Broncos too..
My opinion?!
At the beginning of the season I said I’d judge this season a success on how we set ourselves up for the next 5-10 years. So what does making the playoff’s have to do with that?
Well we found out we have a lot of young players that are very talented including some that have elite talent(AJ). The playoff experience this young team gains will be invaluable to them moving forward. Normally teams don’t go from 4-12 to win the Super Bowl. They make the Playoffs one year, the AFC/NFC Championship the next year, then the Super Bowl(just an example). The point is they gain experience and learn what it takes to take the next step.
We have a good shot to win against the Texans and IF we do, who knows what could happen with this young team.
On the bright side...
Oakland losing drops their (OUR) first round draft pick at least 5 spots I’d imagine. Thanks Carson!
by eric nyc on Jan 1, 2012 8:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I can't believe I'm saying this
but any defense that gives up 38 points is the QB’s fault. Unless Carson was vintage Carson and threw picks.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
there ya go
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Yes he threw at least one with about 5:00 left...
But don’t know how may he actually threw today. I’ll bet 3 though…Yeah sounds about right!
Knowing Carson, that's probably a fair bet.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Back from being at the game
We beat the Ravens, we just didn’t beat the refs. Whatever, we’re still in the playoffs!! Before this season I would have been thrilled — THRILLED — just to get to 8-8. Playoffs?!?! Hell yeah!
Benson is such a drive killer it makes me vomit
Can’t get the big play and can’t get a yard when needed.
I would be much happier with Scott and know it will never happen.
Outrage they benched him after the TD.
I've actually noticed
That Benson can’t cut right or left. I watched today when Benson would run up the backs of his OLine when there would be a huge freakin hole to the left. No vision at all.
i wonder if his hip still is messed up from last year
i was wondering if he hurt his hand too, since he fumbled 5 in last two games. he doesn’t really have a history of fumbling and didn’t appear to really have chnaged his running style
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
I nearly flipped a ***** when I saw Benson in the drive immediately after Scott scored.
Come on, Gruden.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Dear Jesus
Please let Tebow beat the Steelers. You kind of owe him after abandoning him these past few weeks.
you wouldn’t rather have the Bengals beat them?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
They found him out
Its all over for them
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Congrats Bengals fans!!!
Love you cats (hate your owner). Tough fought game against my Ravens. I fully admit the call in the end zone was f-ing insane non-call. Glad you guys are in the playoffs, showing the rest of the league how tough the AFC North is.
I ain’t gonna lie, as a divisional rival, I look at Dalton development with utter trepidation. Your receiving corp is f-ing sick, and well Zim…the man could motivate a girl scout troop to run through a brick wall. Hard to imagine with the picks you guys got coming up in the draft that the Bengals aren’t set for a good long run…
Until I remember that you guys have Mike Clown running the show. God I hate that man…
But hey, Congrats and happy New Year!!!
"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"
we hate him too
he might make small acquiescences to reason, but they are fleeting
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
To make the playoffs with so much youth and inexperience in key areas' is tremendous
Ok we didnt win today, and I agree the officiating was a disgrace but that is the teams first taste of a playoff type atmosphere, the learning process from this type of game could be invaluable v the Texans next week.
good. i need to rework my wanking schedule to accomodate
this getting to the playoffs is such a burden
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
I can't wait for the playoffs.
We somehow, SOMEHOW did the unthinkable. From the worst team to playoff-bound. The AFC in general had a huge down year but I don’t care, we took advantage of it and we made it. LET’S GO BENGALS. BEAT HOUSTON WHEN IT COUNTS.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Just can't play a complete game
All season – all games pretty close except @Pitt, and have a winnable game @Hou. Hard to believe they would not get crushed by NE.
Don’t know how to finish, play hard, but don’t look like a playoff winner. Defense can’t play 60 minutes, offense is average at best
where are the Bengal fans?
i watched the game on tv…now i have no voice left from screaming at the tv and the refs…defense played great…offense didn’t look good at all…but i am and will always be the biggest Bengal Fan ever!!! who dey!!!
And if we lose in the first round, we'll have, what, the 20th pick? 21st if Denver loses?
If we win, that’ll go to the 24th at best.
Y’know, getting into the playoffs with a 9-7 record works in our advantage no matter how many ways you spin it. We’re in the big dance and if we lose, we’ll have the best possible draft position amongst the losers in that round.
except denver
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
i wouldn't complain
like at all
ever
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
The refs calls today
I swear…the stadium booed the whole second half…Even marvin was complaining about it…..but it was a good day today…..WHODEY……Ray Rice is a beast…
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
But I am very happy though
we made the F____ playoffs…..WHODEY
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 1, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Maualuga wiffed today about 50 times on the right side......terrible
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 1, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
It just doesn't look like Malaluga will ever be more than an average MLB
Can make some great plays – but the pro game is a little too much for him mentally
x
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
"one trick pony"
The “ex NFL Scout” only seems to bash ced (although he did just add an “I heart carson” post too) and not provide any expert insight into the game or the failures of Cedric Benson.
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
I love the fact that Carson is watching us in the playoffs
love it
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
I think the only more satisfying thing would've been him making it to the AFCCG along with us
and then personally kicking his ass out of it.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
i would have to agree
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 1, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Carson quit on us.
Joseph left town for the same money we were offering.
Those gripes are legitimate.
Ocho got traded, and would have gladly played for us if he didn’t. I want to beat his team if we play them, but the personal vendetta is completely different in the Carson and J-Joe situations than it is with Ocho.
"Bitch slap your goldfish folks, we're all screwed."
-KevinMitchellisBatman
you bite your tongue
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 1, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
c'mon gotta say it with AUTHORITY
can’t be polite about shit like this, you gotta walk up to that guy and let him know we don’t TOLERATE that crap.
like so:
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
You shut your dirty whore mouth
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
yes....that would be perfect wouldnt it....lol
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 1, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
sweet
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 1, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
next saturday right?
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Where'd ya see that?
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 1, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Adam Schefter:
Steelers fear that RB Rashard Mendenhall tore his ACL. MRI scheduled for Monday to see if fears will be realized.
Draft order
(Assuming the NYG beat the Cowboys):
1 IND
2 STL
3 MIN
4 CLE
5 TB
6 WAS
7 JAC
8/9 CAR,MIA (coin toss)
10 BUF
11/12 KC,SEA (coin toss)
13 ARI
14 DAL
15 PHI
16 NYJ
17OAK CIN
18 SD
19 CHI
20 TEN
If they lose the WC game...
They’ll end up with the 21st Overall (I believe they still use that format)
by KSE on Jan 1, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Just got home.
Wow. The crowd was amazing (aside from the idiots who threw beer bottles on the field). It’s such an mixed emotion. Backing in feels so wrong but those team had a shot and didn’t get it done. I’m really amazed what we saw this season.
I just meant...
Winning and getting would’ve been really cool. Never said someone was wronged. I’m very happy about what happened, completely. Just wanted to win that game is all.
by KSE on Jan 1, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
they didn't back in!
see sig
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
why the Texans and Giants?
Texans won their division fair and square. And lost their QB too.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
well that's true
but the wild card is supposed to “cure” that to a certain extend (especially with two wild cards)
Back in 1975-1976 with three divisions in the AFC you had 10-4 teams missing the playoffs (both years!)
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'm with him.
It feels weird to get into the playoffs despite losing. I don’t have a problem with it, but it’d feel that much better if we got in by socking the Ravens in the teeth rather than getting in because the Raiders and Jets suck so much.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Lions fans are generally pissed that Eli got into the Pro Bowl over Stafford.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
He's Meh to me
But I HATE Romo as much as I would hate being stuck in a church full of Tebows during prayer tme
I just think he was really a prick demanding a trade before playing a game for the team and all that.
Crabtree-esque, only he got what he wanted.
Still don't get why he did that.
Who’d take cold NYC and that media over laid back San Diego?
by KSE on Jan 1, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know if Luck...
would be willing to do that. Who he demand a trade to? Cleveland, Washington?
by KSE on Jan 1, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
I heard a talking head blabbering that he might try to force his way out of Indy because he wants to start right away
But, being that it was a talking head, they were probably just making shit up
Like, it's worse than what Palmer did.
Palmer gave us 8 years, a knee and an elbow before taking his ball and going home. Eli was really a bitch in his situation, if you ask me.
Now now, that's going too far
Eli quit before anyone had a chance to depend on him. Carson went out of his way to screw the fans and the other players when everything had been built around him.
How is he a bitch for avoiding a situation as miserable as SD? It’s his life. He don’t owe anyone anything.
He KNEW SD was a lost cause. Why is that bad?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
SD turned it around pretty quickly
with Rivers though. I don’t think Eli wanted to sit behind Brees. Warner was never a full time idea for NYG.
by KSE on Jan 1, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
no…it’s not about winning regular season games. Many Chargers teams have done that. Him and his dad KNEW they couldn’t win the big one. They don’t even care too. It’s documented.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
It had nothing to do with sitting behind someone. It was 100% about not wanting to waste his career in SD
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
It is a lost cause. They will NEVER win it all. It’s not a coincidence that they’ve had so many teams that are successful in the regular season, only to flush it down the toilet in the playoffs. That’s their m.o. The owner/gm don’t care about championships, they care about spending the least while still fielding a respectable team so they can sell tickets
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Man. I bet that must be horrible.
I hope that never happens to my favorite football team.
by KSE on Jan 1, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
ba-dum tish
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I don’t get the “Carson is a quitter” thing either. The guy wanted to win. Why should he force himself to continue to play for an owner that doesn’t seem to want to win? It’s his life. He wants success. Why is that bad?
On top of that, it was the best thing to happen to your team. They got a new franchise QB..a top tier receiver, and draft picks. Why would you be mad?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
He signed an extension
If he wanted out he should have left then, not when the entire team had been built around him and he’d been given everything he asked for ($$$, TO, Bryant…)
And we got very, very lucky that it all worked out. The end result had nothing to do with Carson. He was a bitch through and through.
he signed an extension before the clusterfuck of last season, am I right?
He was probably assured that they were “trying” as they went out and signed a huge head case to provide balance for him always having his ear bent in one direction. Then they go out and sign who?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Ahh, but he was the primary reason for the clusterfuck
He campaigned to bring TO in. That was HIS fault.
(meaning we got away from the run-first offense of 2009 which was successful in a 6-0 in the division)
just adding to emeybee’s post
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
no you’re right. But think about it…that kinda seems like a "last straw’ type of thing..not the main reason
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
That's a sore subject.
You’re best off dropping it.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I get that. I’d just think you guys would love him. Him leaving is pretty much the reason for your team’s current success and likely bright future
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
IRONY NO?
But seriously, would you like Ben if he suddenly demanded a trade and then was silent about it for months?
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
It depends really. I hate to say this, because it is a Bengals site…
but I’d have done the same thing. A bunch of lip service…no action. You know that calling the Bengals a dysfunctional franchise prior to this year is an understatement, right?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
I understand.
That was his reason for leaving. There is some minority out there who still respect him despite his demand to leave.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
"fans" trashed his lawn and bad mouthed (threatened?) his wife
I’d have left too.
I’m with doc. it’s a sore subject and nobody will have their mind changed.
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
are you freaking kidding? They really did that?
Wow.. That’s Browns fans shit right there
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
I'm not sure to what extent it actually happened, but yeah, it's trashy.
I’ve heard that his wife received death threats. If so, I’m ashamed of the Bengals fanbase.
damn man..that’s crappy. It’s football….
Eric Wright got death threats in his last season in Cleveland…geez…
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
I'm not sure how hicks
even found Palmer’s house. Until he put it up for sale, I never knew exactly where he lives. That’s some serious hate to investigate the guy’s home.
Oh. I’d never assume that they do…
I know the deal. However, when it comes to Browns fans…only fan base that I stereotype..and rightfully so.
They are over there celebrating the fact that they may have ended Mendenhall’s career…classy bunch
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
ARE THEY REALLY?
good gog dbn is a terrible community
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
yes…and in their pre game thread..the top post, which had like 15 recs when I checked..was all about “hey, we might not win, but hopefully we injure Ben and Harrison” I’m paraphrasing of course..but everyone loved it there
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Let's be honest...
We might not say it…but if Ben or Harrison got hurt? We wouldn’t be sad about it. The difference is? these idiots think it’s okay to declare open wishes for that. and apparently, approve of it.
It goes without saying that we wouldn't be sad about it.
But there’s a difference between not being sad about it and not openly wishing for it to happen and then cheering when it does. We don’t go around saying “OH HEY I HOPE WE END THIS GUY’S CAREER TODAY THAT’D BE SWELL”
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
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we may have hicks that throw trash on our qb’s lawn but at least we’re sensible enough not to wish injury on anyone, regardless of how much we hate them.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Dude. I’ve never had any problems with your fan base as a whole. Almost all of you are decent people. There are two and only two fanbases that I have overall negative opinions on..
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
oh gog i'm actually reading it
i have no remorse for the browns anymore.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I once made a comment there and a few of them said they would have rec'd it if I hadn't used the subject line.
Like, what the hell?
they have banned people for using it.
I’m not making that up
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
DBN
SHINING EXAMPLE OF HUMAN INTEGRITY AND FAN CLASSINESS SINCE ’07
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"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
the things that they are proud of would puzzle any reasonable human…
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
I think we can all agree that the Browns suck.
Though I hate the fans more than the actual team. The team itself is sort of a lovable loser.
Exactly.
I kinda wish the Browns would at least get competitive but their fans…good gog.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Idfk
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I never heard that about the wife
But the trash was just a couple guys knocking over his trash can right? I mean, it’s stupid and wrong, but hardly something to quit over. Well, unless you’re a prima donna.
Reports tend to be overblown
but it wasn’t described as a couple knocked over trash cans.
ugg..as he said..it’s a touchy subject…but if there is one qb I would never call a prima-donna…it’s Palmer.
The guy wanted to win…he always said the right things, he brought a professional attitude…I just don’t get it..
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
Unless you count the Raiders
chances of re-building.
cool…as long as it gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling of superiority to keep bringing that up, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again…then more power too you!
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
YEP
Well, at least the trash on the lawn thing. The stuff about his wife has been rumored but there’s been no confirmation about it.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
yep
I think it was the Steeler gaem at Cinci, and Palmer got his 20,000 yard and the fans booed him. His wife said something not really that bad kind of a “it’s a shame”, as best as I recall, and people were calling her out on the radio (I never actually heard that, to be fair).
The trashing his yard was in the paper etc…
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
that’s shameful…
Not sure if you know who Harvey Updyke is (if you watched the 30 for 30 special “roll tide/war eagle” you’d know)
But those type of people are sickening
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
I know about Harvey Updyke
It’s pretty embarrassing when people take sports to that kind of obsession. Fandom’s illogical and a bit ridiculous but there’s a limit and you should be able to realize when you’re being foolish. Poisoning trees, vandalism, and death threats in general aren’t cool, but to do them over something like sports is even worse.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
lol..funniest part? that guy still doesn’t realize he’s being illogical, ridiculous, or that he went over the limit…
he’s “got too much bama in him” and “roll damn tide”…
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
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Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
what was the story about? Does anyone know?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/laurencook/meet-mr-mike-litoris-nv
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
I actually went to school with a kid named Mike Hunt…
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
same here
probably not the same guy. This guy was a douche. I don’t mean he was bad, just that he was full of vinegar and everything he touched seemed fishy.
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
I expect him to say it's different because the Steelers are good.
But seriously, I’m neutral on the Carson thing. He could have handled it better, but he had a right to leave. Either way, he gave us a lot of the best years of his career and I wish him the best.
Well. I didn’t say that, but that’s actually a good point isn’t it?
If he wanted a trade, it would mean he’s selfish right? The team has been pretty good.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
There's a reason I still have my Palmer jersey.
He’s one of the best QBs this franchise has ever had. After a few years I’m sure this fanbase will look back on him with the same kind of respect they have for Dillon.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I read a survey
that for some reason, Eli is the most popular QB amongst female football fans. That doesn’t really mean anything but I’m putting that out there anyways.
by KSE on Jan 1, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
I kinda do
I wouldn’t say hate, however.
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
okay
not sure why you qualifed that.
I didn’t mean to infer you meant hate. I was stating that I don’t mean hate.
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
Of course
Everyone hates your typical successful white QB
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
but that's over half the league
and i don’t hate them for being successful or white, i hate them because half of them are obnoxious for one reason or another. unless you’re brady or manning.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Just how it is though,not bringing color into it 4 real
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Oh god, please don't give Brady any props
He’s up there with the rapist and Zoolander (Romo with his duckface) in my list of hated QBs.
The guy is stupidly successful.
Sure, you’ve got the whole camera thing but that was just one season and it’s not like they’ve been any less successful after that. :v
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Don't go throwing logic into it
The Steelers are successful and I still hate them. That’s the beauty of hate. :)
Hate is generally illogical.
And I understand that. NE’s still one of my most hated teams because of how successful they are. After a decade of dynasties I want a changing of the order. But I seriously do not want Baltimore to be the premiere team in the North.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
They won't be
Their defense is aging rapidly, and their QB has hit his ceiling. Unless they start rebuilding quick they will be fading in the very near future
That's what I'm thinking too.
I’d love for the four ruling teams in the AFC to be Houston/Jax, Kansas City, Buffalo, and Cincy.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
I wish they would someday.
That fanbase deserves better. That team deserves more fans. They’re not that unlikable, just…not that good.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
The one thing that is unprecedented about today
this is the first time in franchise history the Bengals have won a wild-card tie-breaker.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions
The Titans gotta be kicking themselves for that loss to the Colts
(or the loss to the Bengals)
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
really?
I didn’t know that!
Fricking Katy Perry just knocked on your door, took out them tittays and a bottle of wine. She got you drunk. She got you high. She rocked your jock and you have it on videotape... and some of you turkeys are complaining about it being skunk weed.
The whole season matters. They didn’t back in.
yep
This is only the second wild card in Bengals history.
The lone previous wild card was 1975 when the Bengals finished 11-3, tied for the 2nd best record in the conference and one game better than the runner up wild card team.
In 1976 and 1986 the Bengals finished 10-4 and 10-6 respectively, but lost wild card tie breakers.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
The Good the Average and the Ugly - Story of the last few games
Pittsburgh – All Game – Ugly
Houston – Good 1st Half, Ugly Second Half
St. Louis – Can’t remember – but I woud say Average overall
Arizona – Good 1st three quarters – ugly 4th Quarter
B’more – Ugly 1st Half, Average 2nd Half
If they can play half at average and half good at Houston they can win
Then pray for a miracle at NE
Maybe against NE...
it’ll be really snowy and that somehow slows Gronk down.
by KSE on Jan 1, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
I know people are scared of Gronkowski
But I have to think it works in our favor that he and Welker (who is TE-like) are pretty much the Pats ENTIRE offense. The TE seems to get us when we’re planning around other guys.
NFL doesnt allow teams to play in the snow,player's may get hurt
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"
Kind of sad
Lions turn things around and finally make the playoffs… only to face New Orleans in the wildcard.
Per Reedy:
Bengals vs New England would will be Jan. 14 at 8 p.m
by emeybee on Jan 1, 2012 10:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I like our new invisible GM
He/she has been doing a lot of good things lately
by emeybee on Jan 1, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yes
Marv is better, but we need a full time guy, maybe they should just come here and ask our opinions
how awesome would that be
polls for fa, like hey we’re thinking of so and so, and our vote makes the diff. and they would always have fan support, cause we picked em
A while ago someone posted a comment about how if people at CJ ran things we would have drafted Taylor Mays in the second, passed on AJ Green, and signed Haynesworth before he went to the Redskins.
I like it to be handled by professionals, personally. :)
Ryan Mallet would be our QB.
and we would have changed the uniforms to reflect whomever our favorite HS Football is.
I don’t know..Ireland is probably more inept than Brown…
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
what’s “232 out of 232”?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
you’re saying that they are the worst pro sports franchise, period?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
He's quoting some poll.
Where the Bengals ranked as the worst-run sports franchise in the nation.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
wow….
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It smells like seven layers....that beaver eats Taco Bell.
you feeling our pain yet frank??? whip me up some meth man
by joeb69 on Jan 1, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
gives you some insight why Lewis has been kept around for so long, right?
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
here's one
2007:
http://www.forbes.com/2007/03/02/sports-greatest-gms-biz-cz_jg_0302gms_2.html
Actually put the Raiders last and the Bengals second to last.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Something about Brown pisses me off.
I always said I’d rather have had Al Davis running the show. The thing is, Davis was terrible at running a team but he truly tried his best to win. Brown’s dumb and he doesn’t give a shit. If you’re stupid, you should at least try, right?
Hell, Davis wasn't always stupid either.
The man did win Super Bowls.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Not as an owner, I don't think.
He was a great football figure before, but I don’t think he ever did a lot as an owner.
2008 2009 2010 2011
right?
11-5, 7-9, 7-9, 6-10.
so 31-33.
Mike Brown has over 200 losses already, with fewer than 125 wins.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 1, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
So Black Monday is tomorrow.
Anyone else as frightened as I for our brilliant coordinators getting swooped up by desperate teams?
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Zimmer's shine has dimmed.
Jay is a trendy name. Allegedly a buzzy name for JAX and Tampa (how does that go at Christmas dinner?). There’s probably going to be 6-7 openings (Jax, TB, STL, SD, Miami are for sure). Indy, NYG (Couglin may retire) are bubble teams.
I'm kinda glad Zimmer's shine has dimmed.
I’d keep him as our DC for life. I don’t get the Gruden buzz though, he’s a first-year coordinator.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
He's done well with a bunch of rookies and his last name is Gruden.
That’s enough to stir up some hype.
Some hype, yes
But I sincerely hope Jacksonville and Tampa aren’t that stupid to take such a risk with a first-year coordinator.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Saw part of the game
Normally I don’t like to criticize the refs, but it wasn’t just one or two bad calls, there were a number of bad calls against the Bengals! That was awful!
But I did like seeing Scott make some great runs. I can’t believe Marvin doesn’t line up Peerman behind Peko for some of those less-than-a-yard situations!!
by spif on Jan 1, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
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