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Bengals Round Table: Who Is The Cincinnati Bengals Rookie Of The Year?

We present another "episode" of Bengals Round Table topics on Thursday, ranging from questions such as wondering if the Bengals will break the cycle of a disappointing season following a playoff run to Jay Gruden's comments on Jermaine Gresham's development. But first Jason Garrison and Josh Kirkendall were asked the question, if an award for rookie of the year were handed out to Cincinnati Bengals rookies, who should it be awarded to?

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If you were the final vote for Cincinnati Bengals rookie of the year, and your vote awarded the award, who would you select?

Jason Garrison: I would select Andy Dalton. Even though A.J. Green was amazing and much of Dalton's success is due to Green's amazingness, Dalton is the quarterback and the entire team revolves around the quarterback. The quarterback is the team's leader and Dalton played that part well and helped lead the Bengals to the playoffs.

Josh Kirkendall: Only a fool would deny such a solid argument. But as you pointed out, A.J. Green had a lot to do with Dalton's success this year. His athleticism, with scientists wondering if he's the next giant leap in humanity's evolution, got Dalton out of many jams. We've all seen it. Dalton feels pressure, rolls out left and chucks the football down the middle of the field for Green. And Green makes the reception, against double coverage, appear so easy. If not for Green, Dalton doesn't have the season he had without Green bailing him out of sticky situations.

Jason: I understand what you're saying and realistically, I'd have no problem voting either way, but my vote has to go to the quarterback since the quarterback has to read the defense, change plays and takes the majority of the criticism for offensive mistakes. It's got to go to Dalton, in my opinion.
Josh: Plus his composure. Dalton's demeanor and composure, even under the most adverse conditions, often helped Cincinnati during their comeback bids this year. But I guess I would be confident too if I had A.J. "X-Men" Green in his back pocket.
Jason: That's a good point. If I was a quarterback and Mr. Incredible was one of my receivers, I'd feel pretty confident about my chances.

Josh: The better question in this is wondering, who needed who more? Did Dalton need A.J. Green more or vice versa? Ultimately it doesn't matter. All I can remember is Andy Dalton looking like a three-year old when A.J. Green was juggling tennis balls on NBC's pregame show. Instant classic.
Jason: Yeah, his eyes were definitely full of wonder. It was awesome. And to answer your question, I would have to say that Dalton needed Green more. I'm pretty sure that Green is the kind of wide receiver that could make Tim Tebow look like a top-notch passer. BURN!
Josh : If you listen to the ESPN analysts, their heads explode when talking about Tim Tebow's success. Who cares how you get there, as long as you get there.
Jason: Oh, I agree. I applaud what he's been able to do (especially beating the Steelers), I just don't see him having....... stop. We have to stop. I know I started this, but we can't start talking about Tim Tebow. If we do, we're no better than any other sports network. How about them Reds?

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I can't wait to see him after a full offseason and a great line in front of him

please Mike Brown, fix this O-line, it’s not a lot to ask.

"When you see it open up and all you can see is the end zone, it’s hard to describe how relieving it feels." -Ced Benson

by ItsAlwaysSunnyInDayton on Jan 12, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It is a new team with him

He is a leader. Something we haven’t had at QB for a while

AJ Green = Optimus Prime

by Helmsy on Jan 12, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

no question this a new team

crazy part we will only get younger when we upgrade SS, RB, and OG positions in the offseason.

My vote goes to Green, just because he was more consistant throughout the year. Plus, as a QB you can’t make to many mistakes and Dalton had a horrible game when it counted the most. Im sure he will bounce back, but AJ gets Rookie of the year. IMO

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Jan 12, 2012 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

green

not even a debate inside my head about who deserves the distinction more.

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 12, 2012 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

Dalton

had alot on his shoulders this year. Played with poise, leadership, and determination.

"At the very end, somebody took a dump right where I stood in the dugout every day." Dusty Baker

by featherman on Jan 12, 2012 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

I agree with this point.

Dalton had a lot more one his shoulders than Green did.

by TCfromDubVee on Jan 12, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Co MVP

I think Dalton and Green made each other. I just can’t say one or the other was better.

"Next season will be better" circa 1990

by Yarin on Jan 12, 2012 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

no doubt dalton and green

complete each other

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 12, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Isn't it great

that we can actually have this debate because we had TWO outstanding rookies? Most of the time you are lucky to have one star rookie on a team, if any, and we had two!! The sky is the limit for both. And, neither one of them acts like a diva, and I just don’t ever see them developing into that type of player. They both seem like team first type of guys and that’s what I absolutely love about them. I have two young boys who are both athletes and THESE are the types of young men I want them to turn out to be. WHO DEY!!

by Ben-GAL on Jan 12, 2012 10:43 AM EST reply actions  

getting the taste great, less filling vibe

don’t think either choice is wrong or going to be a clear cut winner with the fans.

“both” is probably the safest answer

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 12, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Dalton hands down.

Green had the more dazzling performance but, without Green, we would not have been anywhere near as good. Without Dalton, we would have been sunk!

by BamaBengal on Jan 12, 2012 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

Co-MVP

To close to call u both made tremendous arguments. If I had to lean one way or other I’ll say Dalton. If not for Newton, Dalton would’ve been NFL rookie of year not Green. Dalton plays a part in ever offensive play you can take that away from him. Green had a lot of false starts that was huge no one seems to talk bout either.

by pray4gm11 on Jan 12, 2012 10:55 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

if the poll has 3 options

dalton

green

both.

i bet even the votes are split to almost 1/3rd each

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 12, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

nope

90 % would choose both, I know I would

personally

I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach and hiring Jack Del Rio as Defensive Coordinator. Who Dey!!!

by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs

by joeb69 on Jan 12, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Which came first the chicken or the egg?

I’m not picking one over the other. They’re both damn good athletes, players, and people. We hit the jackpot with these two and it couldn’t have came at a better time. Maybe the football gods finally bet on the Bengals. WHO DEY!

by Bigcatdaddy on Jan 12, 2012 11:05 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

rotoworld posted an article today

concerning which players joined the ranks of elite nlf players at their positions in 2011. number 1 was julio jones of the falcons. what are the odds of aj green being number 2 or even on their list?

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 12, 2012 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

WOW!

No Dalton or Green. That’s not right

AJ Green = Optimus Prime

by Helmsy on Jan 12, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Dontay Moch hands down!!

You just couldn’t keep this guy off the field. What a playmaker, and when his number was called, you bet your ass he answered…. Yes sir, Dontay Moch changed the league this year!!

by WhoDeyTim on Jan 12, 2012 11:30 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

+1

lol….actually co-mvps Moch/Sands….whodey

"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"

by ticalcaldwell on Jan 12, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

he was on the field

hes just so fast no one noticed

by Bengalsfan024 on Jan 12, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Green MVP!

Without Green, the offense collapsed on a consistent basis. He was the opposition’s main trouble maker. Other teams would take their shots against any other offensive player in stripes without worry at any level.

by BrunoSr on Jan 12, 2012 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

Dalton/Green

co-MVPs…..I think they both brought a new energy and turned this team around in different ways…..

Andy showed leadership and poise..he stabilized our biggest weakness from the beginning
Green showed unparalleled athleticism and attitude to this team….pro bowl….nuff said

"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"

by ticalcaldwell on Jan 12, 2012 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

Green

Green bailed Dalton out many times making his numbers look a lot better. He also beat guys deep multiple times only to watch Dalton over throw it.

by kirby28 on Jan 12, 2012 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

Green MVP

OreganBengalsfan, I beg to differ. Big difference when Green was either on or of the field. It’s all good.

by BrunoSr on Jan 12, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

Not a hard decision at all

My dod once told me that there are no hard decisions. If A is better than B you choose A; if Bis better than A you choose B; if they are so close that you just can’t tell just pick one as it doesn’t matter which. Just pick one – Dalton or Green – you are right either way.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Jan 12, 2012 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

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