Janoris Jenkins

Side note

Wilson is a sleeper too! Not a big bowl game but at 210 can be a number 1 with break away speed!!!

"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."

by Dwight Carter on Jan 16, 2012 5:03 AM EST reply actions

David Wilson that is...

"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."

by Dwight Carter on Jan 16, 2012 5:03 AM EST up reply actions

I see your point Dwight but one of the strengths of this theam is the decreasing number of knuckleheads.

I thinkk his past is a more significant issue here than in other places.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Jan 16, 2012 8:51 AM EST reply actions

maybe Pacman could be a mentor to him? But I bet the cowboys pick jenkins before we can even think about him

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Jan 16, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions

Pacman a mentor?

I’m pretty sure he still has some of his own to keep him out of trouble. I see Jenkins as Pacman 2.0, no thanks. Talented, but can he stay on the field when we need him the most? We’ve tried that route before with bad results (Thurman, Slim, etc.). I like the fact this team has guys with good character qualities. We’re about to get rid of one other one too that will only help that (Benson), go with another CB.

"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche

by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 16, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions

im sure they will go a different direction, we tend to like more physical CBs anyways

we need to find another joseph type player if anything!

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Jan 16, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions

Another SC guy might still be there.......

Gilmore.

"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche

by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 16, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions

Wow, Was Going To Say The Same Thing

Pacman as mentor….Yikes !

by laibach on Jan 16, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions

Not saying we need character issue guys

but sometimes the best mentors are ones that have been there

by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 16, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions

True, but not sure Pacman has matured to the level I would trust him as a mentor.

After he blew up during the playoff game and refused to speak with Zimmer on the sideline after he got burned badly………don’t think I would want him showing the young guy how it’s done. Leon Hall, good mentor sure. Pacman, he still has his moments when he goes from Adam back to Pacman. But I agree, guys who have matured and can relate are the best mentors. Just not sure Pacman has matured enough yet to do that.

"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche

by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 17, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions

Agree

I think he fits the Jets just perfect

"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"

by keithp on Jan 16, 2012 8:58 AM EST reply actions

+1

by JCompton41 on Jan 16, 2012 9:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

he has to do a lot leading up to the draft for me to think hes a first round pick

He played d2, and wasn’t the best player on the field most games. That’s big when drafting in round 1. If he goes through the pre draft stuff and blows me away, then I’m for it, if hes average like he was in d2, I wouldn’t risk it.

by JCompton41 on Jan 16, 2012 9:07 AM EST via mobile reply actions

+1 Totally agree

This is a first round pick none of the CB projected to us are of that talent plenty in 2nd round

by messjunk on Jan 16, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions

Sometimes players play up to their competition.

If he played average in d2 it’s probably because he played average competition. Hopefully we have enough good influence guys in the locker room to keep him on the straight and narrow.

by Bigcatdaddy on Jan 16, 2012 9:16 AM EST via Android app reply actions

that sounds like a great attitude i want out of a first round pick

by JCompton41 on Jan 16, 2012 9:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

It's nothing about his attitude

For example way back when I was fortunate enough to play, I always had great games against the tougher teams on the schedule and was just average against the lesser teams. It’s not that I didn’t go all out against the lesser teams it’s just stiffer competition brings out the best in some people. ( at least that’s what coach told me lol) If that’s the case with this kid he’ll be fine in the NFL because it’s all top notch competition.

by Bigcatdaddy on Jan 16, 2012 1:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions

i get that

But the fact that he didn’t routinely shut down wide receivers who won’t even get camp invites is not something that can be ignored.

by JCompton41 on Jan 16, 2012 2:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I think if Richardson slides to 17 we pick him up and take the best avaible player at 21 for OG/SS/CB

but if he doesn’t I hope we go after Barron and get the upgrade we need at SS and then try to get a DB in the 2nd or 3rd round

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Jan 16, 2012 9:52 AM EST reply actions

This would suit me just fine AMA. But, Gs are our biggest need IMO.

I can see a greater possibility of impriving out D backfield in house than I do the G sitiarion, unless we can convert either Collins or Andre to one of the G spots. The more I think about it I think Collins would be a very good G with an offseason and TC to sharpen his skils. Collins beside Andre would be a load. LG would still be a major issue. Richardson at 17 and Decastro at 21 would be a fine 1st round followed by a CB, SS and WR in the 2nd thru 3rd. If they can get the right guys in the 2nd thru 3rd along with Richardson and DeCastro in the 1st that would upgrade five different of the 6-7I think we need to work on to make the jump to the next level. QWith a little luck we might just find a WR to work along with Greem down the field if Simpson, who I had high hopes for, doesn’t make his light come on.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Jan 16, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions

yea I just really like Richardson because he is like Ray Rice 2.0

and would add an another eliment for Andy to go to. But IMO, our biggest need would be SS. After the playoff game in Houston, I was done with Crocker. He brings a lot to the table as far as leadership but he consistantly gives up big plays. If we add a playmaker SS in the mix, our defense will be in the top 5 for sure. But if Richardson slides to us at 17 we have to take him because he would help the offense more than Barron to the defense. Or any OG to our offense line.

But that would be best case scenerio if Richardson slides to us at 17 and we can pick Decastro at 21. And we defenately need to add youth and depth to CB, DT, and OG. So the first 4 rounds are going to be OG, CB, SS, and RB in no particular order, but which ever best availble player is around at the time we pick.

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Jan 16, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions

Lamar Miller and Janoris Jenkins will both be there at 17 & 21.

and they would immediately make big impacts.

Lamar is a great RB out Uof M
and Jenkins’ 3 arrests were for pot (he’ll grow out of that).

A U of M player and a Gator in the 1st round (2 well coached schools)
are good pick-ups.

"What we do in this life echoes in eternity"

Maximus*

by gratefulmax on Jan 16, 2012 12:58 PM EST reply actions

get them in this order

by Coldmutha on Jan 17, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions

FYI............

Lamar Miller is the fastest player in the draft (hands down).

"What we do in this life echoes in eternity"

Maximus*

by gratefulmax on Jan 16, 2012 12:59 PM EST reply actions

I like Miller

For us I like these backs in this order. Richardson, Polk, Miller, and Wilson. I know they won’t go in that order but that’s just who I like for us in the first 2 rnds. If Wilson is there in the 2nd I wouldn’t be surprised if we pick him. He’s only 205 lbs but he does like to run between the tackles and probably is the best pass catching bach in the draft. He could put on 10 or 15 lbs without killing his speed and would be geat in a WC system.

by Bigcatdaddy on Jan 16, 2012 1:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions

Wilson also has had fumble issues, though.

I think I’d like to see Lamar Miller with #21. FAST FAST FAST and big enough to be a 3 down back. If DeCastro falls and take Miller with 21 that would be amazing. Still leaves CB to be dealt with, but there are lots of good CBs in the 2nd to be had. Safety I think they may pass on a early round safety if they see enough out of Mays and/or Sands in the offseason… assuming we resign Nelson.

More likely, though, DeCastro will be gone at 17 and we can take whichever CB is best and Lamar Miller with both of those picks. There are also lots of good second round guards, and always the chance we snag Nicks in FA (or any other good guard for that matter).

by Luke on Jan 16, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions

Nope don't want Jenkins.

Far to much talent in the draft at CB to risk on Jenkins. You can talk him up all you want. He was average in D2 and I don’t want to draft him.

I picked Barron first, would be pick Miller as option 1, and Wright as option 2. No one else on that poll appeals to me.

by TCfromDubVee on Jan 16, 2012 4:42 PM EST reply actions

barron isn't better than Sands..come on

by Coldmutha on Jan 17, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions

I hope this turns out to be true!

by TCfromDubVee on Jan 17, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions

what was the scouting report on sands?

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Jan 18, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions

dont forget his arrest records

May 2009 arrested during a downtown Gainseville fight that resulted in probation and community service.

On June 1, 2009, Jenkins was arrested near a bar by Gainesville Police for fighting and resisting arrest after punching a man in the head around 2 AM. Police were forced to use a taser on Jenkins after fighting escalated. When asked why the fight started, Jenkins told police it was because he thought someone was going to steal the gold chain around his neck.

January 2011, He was cited for the misdemeanor marijuana possession andnd paid a $316 fine.

April 23, 2011, Jenkins was cited by a Gainesville police officer and charged with misdemeanor marijuana possession.

April 26, 2011, he was dismissed by the Florida Gators football team, due to his second drug related arrest in 3 months

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 16, 2012 5:40 PM EST reply actions

if thats his WHOLE criminal record

then im not really concerned. I would say the marjority of men college athletes smoke weed. lol Most people tend not to get caught

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Jan 16, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions

most men dont have to worry about random drug tests, suspensions, and the end of their careers

for weed.

the concern about jenkins, he’s immature. already allowed his off the field activities to get him booted out of one program.

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 16, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions

You wanna smoke a little dope in college fine. Keep it at your house and don't be dumb with it.

This guy is dumb. Not overlooking his record just because he might be a top 10 talent, and I stress might!

by TCfromDubVee on Jan 16, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions

I agree he maybe a little immature but

the things he did get charged with werent serious. May bring up some flags, but I think for the most part most people grow out of that.

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Jan 17, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions

sometimes

and sometimes not

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 17, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions

I love his talent

My biggest issue is this: While he was great at Florida, when he transferred to Northern Alabama, he was not even able to make All-Gulf First team. He made second team, but at the D2 level. If he is unable to make 1st team at D2, It shows me that he didn’t put forth the effort for the team. I am worried that should the Bengals have a bad year, he will quit on the team, kind of to the same effect Chad/Carson did in ’10

by Alexneyer on Jan 17, 2012 10:34 AM EST reply actions

Part of him not making the 1st team could be.......

teams simply stayed away from him completely and didn’t give him many opportunities to make plays, tackles, or interceptions. But with our scouting department of one or so, I’m not sure I would be comfortable that we know everything there is to know about him and whether or not he’s truly ready to play right away in the NFL and if he’s matured. Our past has not indicated we are a very good judge on these types of guys.

"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche

by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 17, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions

I know the guy is talented.

But I am leery on drafting him. Do we want to take a chance on someone like him? Not saying he has commited awful crimes or anything, like most have said, most colleg kids smoke weed, but the thing that bothers me is he seems to not care about getting caught and getting in trouble. If my future was in the NFL and I had made a mistake once, I am going to try my best not to make it again. It just makes me wonder about his mentality, and we all know that sometimes you give these types of guys lots of money, you never know what you are in for.

by Ben-GAL on Jan 17, 2012 11:12 AM EST reply actions

Nope on Jenkins

Don’t want him. Don’t need him. He might have learned his lesson after getting booted from Florida and despite his talent, I do not want the Bengals to draft him. We do NOT need any distractions and there’s always a chance that he gets into trouble again.

I know we’ve had some success with guys that the Bengals took a risk on (Shirley and Scott are two recent examples of guys that stayed completely out of trouble after college), but I always cringe when the team grabs these guys. Marvin once said that he had to take a chance on players with character concerns that were cast off by other teams simply because we had trouble attracting good free agents. Now we have the core of a young, relatively trouble free team on both offense and defense and I’d love for us to get away from that old “group of thugs” image for good.

by OhWell on Jan 17, 2012 11:34 AM EST reply actions

Agree about the "reach" comment.....

I think some time ago we needed to roll the dice in order to get more competitive. Now that we’re there we shouldn’t have to gamble quite as much anymore. We need guys who are reliable and can contribute right away, off-field problems like that take some of these guys out of the equation. We are slowly getting rid of the few we have on the team now (Benson), so let’s not add more. I do give props to Scott, he had the same rep coming out of college and went small school and has kept his nose clean. He is an success story, but let’s not continue to gamble.

"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche

by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions

I hear all the arguements...

He’s a risk, not mature enough, and majority want to buld the team with all good characters. Should the Bengals go conservative with save picks… Like Rivers? Who was NFL ready but far from being a playmaker at his position. Barron is solid but is he going to change cahnge the game with his plays. Probably not. He is the safe pick and does address a team need. What does the team do with guys like Mays and Sands then? Speaking of is Barron even going to start or will he be forced to develope? Jenkins is ready. Wth 3 months until the draft and since his last incident was in April 2011. It’s been said that he is a good kid just made some dumb mistakes. The kid is a play maker though. Someone we could start instantly across from Hall and dare other teams to go after him. One mistake and he’ll take advantage of it. The team doesn’t have that right now. I want 2 lock down corners this year so the D can concentrate on TE’s, RB, and the QB! When JJ was here and healthy the team D could do that. He’s going to be a playmaker in the league whether it’s on our team or not. I saw one latest mock draft with him going to Detriot, 2 picks after 21st, our pick. I can only imagine what he’ll do there with their pass rush. Another thing, With the emergence of speed WR’s in our division who on our current roster can shut down a Wallace, Brown, or Smith with no help? I’m going to do some research on safety’s via Free agency and the draft to see if there is some help there should they pass up on Barron.

"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."

by Dwight Carter on Jan 17, 2012 1:23 PM EST reply actions

Next years safety class looks spectacular.

Baccari Rambo UGA and TJ McDonald USC will be guys to watch. Barron looks to be the only safety worth looking at in this years draft… Checkout Rambo’s stats and bio when u get a chance…

"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."

by Dwight Carter on Jan 17, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions

lol with a name like "Rambo" he better be good

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Jan 17, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions

Lol, I know right...

"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."

by Dwight Carter on Jan 17, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions

Mays is the answer

by Coldmutha on Jan 17, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions

I like Mays at Safety...

But with a 2 lock down corner so he is free to blitz!

"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."

by Dwight Carter on Jan 17, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions

Too be honest, I'm not sold on Barron or Jenkins

It’s critical of a time in this teams development to be able to take a chance on guy like this, I agree we need playmakers and maybe another year or two down the road we will be afford to start taking chances, I just don’t beleive we have luxury with where this team is right now. As for Barron, I know a lot of people really like him and so do I but not in the 1rst round. He’s moving up the boards but it’s b/c a lot of teams need safety and he’s the only one really out there, it’s a pretty weak safety class. My biggest concern about him is he’s great against the run but struggles a bit in coverage, it’s a passing league and I’d rather have a safety who was strong against the pass. That’s why I’d target Trumaine Johnson in the 3rd round who plays both CB and safety or look to free agency

by biggie22 on Jan 17, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions

We'll have to take Trumaine Johnson in the 2nd

But we can get Josh Robinson with a 3rd : )

by messjunk on Jan 18, 2012 5:09 AM EST up reply actions

TJ...

Looks to just add depth to our roster, not a starter quite yet. I hear you on Barron though…

"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."

by Dwight Carter on Jan 17, 2012 6:34 PM EST reply actions

I definitely think we must stay away from Barron

I agree with many of the above that Barron just isn’t the playmaker we need. Personally, I think Zimmer likes Mays and, if the Bengals can get a starting CB with one of their first round selections and Hall returns healthy the Bengals can move Clements to safety. He is a strong tackler, great in run support and would give us the cover safety so sorry missed this year.

Is Jenkins that starting CB. I’m not sure b/c he didn’t dominate at D2, but I’m not sold on Kirkpatrick either (who now has his own marijuana problems). I really liked Claiborne until I saw him and the Honey Badger get abused by the AL WR’s in the championship game. That leaves Dennard and frankly I haven’t seen enough of him to make an evaluation. I’m just not sure there is a Patrick Peterson in this class which shifts me more to RB and OG with the first 2 picks.

by WOOD98 on Jan 18, 2012 4:40 AM EST reply actions

Agreed, safer bet to go with CB in 2nd........

I think we’d be possibly reaching by throwing a dart and picking one of these guys in the first.

"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche

by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 18, 2012 7:31 AM EST up reply actions

cowboys gambled on a guy not long ago with maturity issues in the draft

appears the cowboys are still worrying about dez bryant too

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 18, 2012 11:44 AM EST reply actions

They should be.........guy is a perfect Cowboy. A talented moron, let them have 'em all.

"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche

by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 18, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions

Jenkins smokes weed

He’s not Dez Bryant…

"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."

by Dwight Carter on Jan 18, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions

there were rumors at the begining of this year that the cowboys were about to let dez bryant go

i live in dallas, so i know there has been some question marks about Bryant. Don’t know if that rumor was true or not but Bryant seems to be a little immature still. Or at least last off season he couldn’t keep himself out of trouble.

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Jan 18, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions

he gets in street fights over jewelry

you trying to say he’s not immature?

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 18, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions

I tell you what...

The Bengals passed on Bryant for Gresham in the 09 draft. If they do it in this draft and pass up on Jenkins I’ll put my trust in the FO. Him fighting over his property to me is not immature. It was his and he fought for it like any man would. Now could he have removed his self maybe, I don’t know what happened but the coaches will ask and determine what they think happened. I’ve read he was a “good kid” like a Scott so we’ll see what happens.

"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."

by Dwight Carter on Jan 18, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions