2012 NFL Playoffs: Bengals Can Learn From Ravens, 49ers
There are four teams left in the playoffs and two of them are there because of their defenses. Here's an interesting stat: Two of the teams left had top-10 offenses throughout the regular season, the Patriots and Giants, and two of the teams had top five defenses, the 49ers and Ravens. The funny thing is the two teams with great offenses had not-so-great defenses and the two teams with great defenses had mediocre to not-so-great offenses.
What's even funnier, is two of the teams that many picked to win the Super Bowl, or at least face each other in the NFC Championship game, the Green Bay Packers and the New Orleans Saints, who had two of the highest powered offenses in the league, were already eliminated.
So, what can we learn from this? What we can learn is that even though this is a passing league and teams with high-powered offenses are tough to beat, the term "defenses win championships" still has some weight. The Bengals can learn something as well. What has happened in the playoffs so far should show them that they're missing a key ingredient that every elite defense has: a game-changer.
The Bengals have a good defense. They've had a good defense since Mike Zimmer took over as the defensive coordinator. While they've been good, which is much better than what they have been, they haven't been great. The defense is good enough to take down some of the better teams in the league and it's good enough to get them to the playoffs but it needs to be good enough to get them to the next level and to do that they need a player that has the potential to make plays that few can.
Let's examine the two top defenses left in the playoffs. On the Ravens, you have two future hall of famers in safety Ed Reed and linebacker Ray Lewis. On the 49ers, you have linebacker Patrick Willis. All three of these players have the potential to change a game and an entire season and all three have transformed their teams' defense to the status of elite.
Granted, players like Lewis, Reed and Willis don't come around in every draft and they can't be found in free agency, but the lesson that could be taught to the Bengals is to focus their early draft picks on the defense. They need to upgrade several positions on defense, especially in the secondary, and they may even be able to upgrade linebacker positions. Players like Geno Atkins, Carlos Dunlap, Michael Johnson and Leon Hall are good start to a great defense but they're not quite there yet. Another cornerback, a great safety and maybe even a game-changing linebacker could be all the difference in the world.
With the right core of players and the right coordinator, the Bengals defense could make the jump from good to elite. They have the amount of high picks necessary to find the right players in the next couple of years too. There's no question that the offense needs an upgrade as well but I think it would be best to use free agency and mid- to late-round picks for that.
If they do things one thing at a time and start with their defense first, the Bengals could find themselves in a similar situation as the 49ers and the Ravens right now in the next couple of years.
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And so that Chad does not get a ring....
he has done nothing for the Pats this year…
I would rather Justin Smith and Ahmad Brooks get a ring before I
would want Chad to get his.
Totally forgot about Chad Just like the pats did. Love j smith
Ok. Niners vs pats. Pats lose Chad doesn’t get the ring and Justin smith gets another beer tattoo on the other arm. Dalton throws 3 tds and carrys that into the next season
by njbengalstat on Jan 18, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
I think the 5 TOs by the Saints had more impact on their loss than the 49ers defense did.
Even with 5 TOs the Saints still had 32 points and 472 net yards.
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well who caused those Turnovers?
the 49ers Defense
by Bengalsfan024 on Jan 18, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
49ers D was very physical with the Saints...
They took Pierre Thomas out early and Jimmy Graham was not 100% after he left for the locker room and came back to the field.
Only one of those TO was due to the 49ers defense.
And I’m not sure that expecting your defense to come up with 5 TO is a recipe for success.
Even though they only scored 20 points GB still racked up 388 yards. If GB and NO don’t have a combined 8 turnovers between them they are probably both meeting in the NFC Championship and Jason is penning an article about the Bengals learning from the Saints and Packers.
Lets look at it from another perspective. Out of the top 5 defense in net yards allowed, only the 49ers are still in the playoffs and they are only there because their normally anemic offense scored two touchdowns in the final minutes of their game.
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Opps forgot the Ravens. It was probaly intentional.
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Another way of looking at it
is which unit is almost ready to be dominate with some draft help?
I say the offense.
Get a back that is fast and big enough to run thru the interior.
Get two big guards that have the speed and footwork to stand and block or pull and lead.
Then you have Dalton, Green, Gresham, new runner and big, nasty oline. Then you have some game changers. The guards and RB can be had in the draft for certain, first round gets two of the three needed.
Defense on the other hand hasn’t shown any game changers yet, has it?
Atkins looked great, but does he dominate a offense? He is much like Dunlop last year, who knows what 2012 presents?
Anybody a game changer on defense? Only Zimmer really.
So the argument could go, since the offense already has some GC’ers, but not enough, go get them in the draft.
I have more faith in the defense, at this point
To my eyes, the defense performed better, and I honestly think it has more playmakers, as well. Or at least more quality. On offense, we have Dalton, Green, and….? Gresham and Simpson were inconsistent, Shipley is still healing up, and none of the running backs did much (aside from Leonard, but we rarely use him). I don’t know how Leon Hall will recuperate, but we have a close-to-being-great defensive line, a ton of good linebackers, and interesting projects at safety. Outside of the DL, they aren’t playmakers, but I have more faith in them than our low-wattage offense. (And let’s not forget that injuries and FA hurt the D more than the O. Leon and Sims and Rivers hurt, Joseph lost to FA.)
That’s always an interesting argument, though: do you draft to improve your strengths (which are closer to being over the top) or your weaknesses (which obviously need more help)? I honestly think we can do both, this year, given the number of picks we have.
by Big Sky Bengal on Jan 18, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, "close to great defensive line"
they gave up 222 to the Ravens in a must win game. Then gave up 150 to Houston in a must win game. That is more close to awful than any other term. Once Sims went down, nobody on the line could stop the run.
Get Sims back then how do you make the defense great?
Edge has to get better with a great pass rushing DE and one strong enough to shed 340 lbs guards or tackles. Not likely to get one at #17 let along #21.
Then we need a dominate linebacker somewhere. We might find one in our draft zone.
Then we need someone dominate in the secondary which we don’t have now. Might get one in the draft for safety and CB. But all of this is building on a unit without a single game changer as of now.
Offense already has Dalton and Green.
Not advocating building the offense to the exclusion of the defense, but that might be a viable strategy as the draft plays out.
All I'll say...
…is that those big Ray Rice runs weren’t on the d-line, and many of the big Arian Foster ones weren’t, either.
by Big Sky Bengal on Jan 18, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Crocker threw a mean block too......really cleared the way for 6. lol
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 18, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
I saw lots of daylight between our guys as Rice
went thru our line. Then I saw our linebackers get erased to allow the big gains.
This is why I say we need to address the front 7. I threw up after Houston game was over and erased the game from my DVR so I don’t remember Fosters big gainers. But it had to be the same….open the dline, then have a guard or tackle blow up a linebacker.
Look at the last 5 games, see a pattern with run yards given up?
The D only needs..
Simms, First round CB, and MAys or Sands at Safety to be elite and install playmakers. The O needs an Olineman, RB in the first round, and Maybe another option at WR like Dwight Jones from UNC =)!
"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."
Oh, draft a big ugly
DT somewhere in ther draft for back to Simms and Peko.
"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."
by Dwight Carter on Jan 18, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Don't forget the dline rotation is possibly losing 3 out of 8 players.
So its more than Simms. As Carter says, one more big ugly for sure. Then replacements for Fanene and Rucker. Both those guys have played out 2 contracts and if they come back at all, it will be on 1 year deals.
I like Rucker...
but either or is fine. They may try to get Shirley back after beasting a lil for Carolina if they release him!
"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."
by Dwight Carter on Jan 18, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Kuechly
Boston College LB Kuechly could be that game changer. Bengals should draft if available.
If they go LB
It needs to be Burfict. I saw some mock drafts linking him to the Ravens to replace Lewis and some to the Steelers! Want a playmaker face of the D he would be it! I thought they go that route though.
"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."
by Dwight Carter on Jan 18, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
*doubt
"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."
by Dwight Carter on Jan 18, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Rivers and Rey Rey were supposed to be the face. But ur rite we need a ray lewis
by njbengalstat on Jan 18, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
We need an Ed Reed
more than a Ray Lewis IMO.
by EarthwormJim on Jan 18, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
You forgot the first part of the saying...
“Offense wins games, but defense wins championships”
In other words, we needs some offense to win us some games or else we will never have a chance to compete for a championship in the first place.

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