what the faulk? To pead or not to pead. That is the question!
by AMAS85 on Jan 24, 2012 7:22 PM EST
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There has been a lot of talk about which RB we should take in the first, second, and third round. In my best case scenario we can address the DB and OL positions in the first. Which would leave us with the best value in the second with Pead.
I could be wrong here. But why do I feel like there are a lot similarities between Isaiah Pead and Marshal Faulk. Just watch the way Pead runs and cuts. Then compare it to Faulk. I think you would be pleasantly surprised. Please check it out your self. I have listed two highlight videos to show you what Im talking about.
Pead has the hands and vision to make him a perfect fit in the WCO. Also, Pead is not just a north and south runner, but he has the patients and lateral movement to excel in the league.
I think if you add 10 to 15 pounds of muscle to Peads lower body and few more pounds to his upper body. Pead would have a very similar build to Marshall when he was in the NFL.
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Love Pead but not in 2nd round.
Just think he is a change of pace back. I would go with Martin in the 2nd if both was there. If Pead was still there in the 3rd i would give it good thought. If we could get both players that would be a plus for the offense. But i see Scott not making the team if the Bengals do that.
If you “Added 10-15 lbs to his lower body and a few more to his upper body” he would be a completely different player.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 24, 2012 9:10 PM EST via Android app reply actions
ugh
He wont be as quick or agile, and that is is his game.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 24, 2012 9:44 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
thats necessarly true
I think he gain at least 10 pounds and not lose a step. Pead has a frame that can add a few pounds and not slow him down, Sort of like AJ Green, You know he will gain another 15 pounds or so over the years and not lose a step.
With the right conditioning and consistant off season work outs. Pead should have no problem gaining that weight and not lose a step. He may even get a little quicker and faster since he will be going against the top notch competition daily.
AMAS
For the People screaming "Draft Pead!!1!!"...
Give me your top 10 RBs. Rank them. Show me where Pead is in your rankings and then tell me what Pead does better than the guys you rank below him. Don’t talk to me about adding weight because (except for James) everybody played, and produced at an NFL weight. Also, tell me what rounds you think each one SHOULD be drafted.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 24, 2012 9:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
lol damn your going to make me work
but let me make something clear. I see a lot of up side with Pead. And its not just because he played for the Bearcats. Its because i like the way he runs, he has great vision. I think the best out of the class.
I would actually take richardson as my first choice.
1. Richardson
2. Pead
3. Martin
4. Miller
5. Wilson
AMAS
I will do the 6-10 later and its really not necessary
If we are going by what running back would pick for the Bengals. I can easily back that up.
First off. I think any back out of my top 5 RB will be an upgrade from what we had from last year. And I think you can plug any one of those backs into our system and we would get more production out of them.
I have richardson number one because he is more polished than pead. Since richardson played in the SEC, he will be more NFL ready and not take as many years to develope into the level of player he can be. So, that would be a good think for Bengals now and most likely for the next couple of years.
But if Pead had played in a better conference, then I would probably have him number one.
Obviously Pead doesn’t have the top end speed of Miller or Wilson, but its the way he runs that will make him successful. I think what is going to seperate Pead from the rest of this RB class is his vision and feet work with the way he runs the ball.
Pead shows the patients like Arian Foster, which is going to benefit him in the NFL because most defenses are dicipline and you have to wait for openings more often than not. And at the same time, Pead can flip it on like a swtich and cut back and turn nothing out of something.
I don’t think any back has comparable feet work to Pead, maybe Richardson, but thats it. And not mention Peads hands and what he can do out of the back field for the bengals. Pead also has the athleticism to go up and go after the ball like WR.
So if you put his vision, feet work, and hands together with good acceleration and speed. Pead would be my overall 2 back.
I also think some of those other backs benefited from great blocking. Cincy oline isn’t that impressive.
AMAS
Cincy's Oline isn't that impressive but then again neither are the Dlines they have faced.
I have nothing against Pead. He seems like a fine RB candidate and if we can get him in the 3rd he would be a steal but I would not go into the 2nd unless Richardson, Martin, Polk or Miller are gone by then (not necessarily in that order). All of this discussion is fun but pro days and the combine, when the playing field is level , will give us more data to make an informed decision.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Top 10
1 round1 Trent Richardson
2. Round2 David Martin
3. Round2/3 Isaiah lead
4. Round3 Chris Polk
5. Round 4 David Wilson
6. Round 4 Cyrus grey
7. Round 4 Lamar miller
My Top 10 RB
Trent Richardson 1st
Lamar Miller 2nd
Chris Polk 2nd
Isaiah Pead 3rd – 4th
Tauren Poole 5th
Bernard Pierce 4th
Foswhitt Whittaker 7th
David Wilson 3rd
Terrance Ganaway 5th – 6th
LaMichael James 3rd – 4th
Ray Graham from Pitt would’ve been my #2 if he’d declared
just missing Doug Martin, but a good list
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 7:18 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Ballard, yes. I’m not feeling Gray.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 1:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Every time I see Gray's highlights, I feel him.
What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.
Don’t watch the highlights. Look for lowlights
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 2:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
You have to look at both.
Lowlights are hard to find by the way if you don’t have access to college videos.
What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.
I watch the complete games, what I meant was I look for the negatives. We’re splitting hairs with these guys. They’re all talented.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 3:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Draft Breakdown dot com (Joe pointed me here)
has a bunch of videos, and you can find them on You Tube, that shows ALL of the snaps that the players were in during the individual games. So you see the high- and low-lights.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 25, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
from www.draftcountdown.com (referenced on this site in a recent article):
“Cincinnati RB Isaiah Pead wasn’t bad but didn’t really stand out either. Pead runs low and showed some shiftiness but his change of direction in 11-on-11’s was just average at best and he also bobbled a pass during drills.”
There is EXTREME homerism going on here at CJ
Everybody likes Pead. But in truth, most view him as the 7-10 best RB in the draft and a 3-5 round change of pace backup RB.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 4:42 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
lol I guess call me simpson, cuz imma a homer
for real, only time will tell if people are right about Pead. Like I said, I wouldn’t say someone could be good as Marshall Faulk if I really didn’t think and I wouldn’t say it just because he played for Cincy.
AMAS
Agree on the homerism here, but...
Check out this quote from Monday’s practice:
“Isaiah Pead (RB/Cincinnati) has been the most elusive and creative ball carrier of the day. On one play he made two defenders miss with his ability to cut back against the grain.”
by steve henderson on Jan 25, 2012 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
it’s debatable who’s better.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 8:27 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
im not a pead homer
But I’d take Pead over James.
by JCompton41 on Jan 25, 2012 9:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought Pead was a bit bigger than James.
Regardless, I trust Pead to stay healthy over a season in the AFCN more than I trust James to do as much.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
by Doc Scratch on Jan 25, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
If anything I think there is a lot of reverse homerism going on around here
I see more people who seem to knock the guy just BECAUSE he went to Cincinnati than people who seem enamored with him because he he’s a Bearcat. If he played for Rutgers or West Virginia or Louisville I think a lot of people knocking him on this board would be talking about him as a sleeper instead. I’m a Bearcat fan, but I don’t look at them as a factory for NFL talent. I thought Connor Barwin went too early (though he’s proven me wrong) and I’ve never really wanted us to draft anone from that program, with the possible exception of Gilyard who I thought was a decent pick in the 3rd round. But it’s not hard to see Pead is a talented football player. Someone mentioned it in the other thread, but “change of pace” doesn’t mean what a lot of people seem to think it means. Jay Gruden doesn’t want to run a guy 25 times a game and have another guy spell him for 8-10 carries. He wants 2 or 3 guys who can each touch the ball 10-12 times. So Pead might not be the COMPLETE answer to the running back question, but the 2nd coming of Walter Payton wouldn’t be the complete answer in this system either. I think Pead is going to be a very good back in this league and I think whoever drafts him in the 2nd round (which is where he’ll be drafted, I’ll bet money on it right now) is going to be happy with his production.
So you think Pead is the 2nd, 3rd or 4th best RB in this entire draft?
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 8:30 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
You're really hung up on this ranking business
I think he’ll be the 5th or 6th RB drafted. That sounds about right, ranking wise, to me. And that would put him around the bottom of the 2nd round by my approximation if you think at least 2 and probably 3 guys go in the 1st (Richardson, Miller, Polk). But I also wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up out-performing some of the guys drafted ahead of him. And if he blows up the combine and one of the guys ahead of him doesn’t (happens just about every year) then it could change even more.
I just wanted to make sure. You pretty much guaranteed Pead goes round 2. So that’s why I asked. I think, at most, 5 RBs go in first 2 rounds. I have Pead at #8. Leads me to think he’s a 3rd or 4th. I really do like Pead and I’d love to have him in Stripes, but I also recognize that there are 6 RBs who can be #1 types from day one, and Pead isn’t one if them. This class is deep. We can like a guy like Pead and still think he gets drafted middle rounds.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 9:19 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
i'd be surprised to see 3 RB's go in round 1
Only 1 went last year. RB’s are trending down and going later.
So i could see TR going round 1, but with the possibly injury, Miller could fall to round 2. And i’d be surprised to see anybody not named Trent Richardson go ahead of MIller.
If Miller falls to round 2, then there would only be 1 RB in round 1 and then a few in round 2. Meaning the #5 or #6 RB would be round 3 material.
I wasn't that impressed by Miller
Don’t get me wrong, the guy has top notch speed. But speed with no direction is almost useless in the NFL. Depending on the team he goes to, he probably wont be that effective. Its seems like a lot of his big plays came from pitches and he wont be able to beat most NFL defenders to the edge like he did in college. And I also think he benefited from good blocking.
AMAS
>Speed with no direction is almost useless in the NFL
/Caldwell
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
by Doc Scratch on Jan 25, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
2nd fastest shuttle, 3rd fastest 3-cone
in his draft. caldwell isn’t all straight line speed in terms of what he’s physically capable of. perhaps, though, the sharp cuts aren’t instinctual, so when running routes the agility isn’t present.
who knows why he appears that way as a receiver, but it certainly isn’t because he doesn’t have the physical tools.
I can't explain it either but Caldwell's almost purely straight line speed.
If you can get him a relatively clear path and let him go, he’ll generally make something of it if his Inexplicable Bullshit Ring O’ Interference he keeps hidden under his glove doesn’t screw everything up. There were a couple of plays last year where they just let him run a fly route and threw it up to him. If he had a good three inches on him, he’d be so successful at that position but he’s too short to be Slim and too slow to be Shipley.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Richardson and either or both Polk and Miller will go in the 1st
I could see Miller slipping, and I could see Polk slipping, but I have a hard time picturing NO team outside of the top 10-12 wanting to pick up a feature running back. And Miller and Polk are both feature running backs. Last year was a REALLY weak draft for running backs, this year is stacked. I wouldn’t be entirely shocked if 4 backs went in the first round, not that I think that’s likely.
I'm not crazy about him
But someone will draft him high hoping he’ll be LeGarret Blount.
I think you hit the nail on its head
the Bengals are definitely moving to running back by committee but we still need an upgrade with pass blocking, elusiveness, and catching out of the back field.
I think Pead will excel in the Bengals offense even if he only gets 20 or so touches a game. I see Pead giving the same type of production like Sproles did for New Orleans this year.
AMAS
I see more people who seem to knock the guy just BECAUSE he went to Cincinnati than people who seem enamored with him because he he’s a Bearcat.
the poll doesn’t seem to back this up as more people are voting to use a 2nd round pick for him vs. not use a 2nd round pick for him.
well I guess that could mean some of those "no" votes were because people want to take him in the first round
But I think 2nd round is our best chance of getting him, unless he blazes the 40 time at the combine. Doubtfull, but you never know lol
AMAS
You realize we're just a very small fraction (you could even say sample size) of the entire NFL fanbase that's paying attention to these things, right?
We’re a small group of homers on a blog on the internet. That’s nothing to gigantic consuming machine of the NFL fans. Look around outside this blog, lemme know what you find.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
by Doc Scratch on Jan 25, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Like I have said, Pead would be a decent upgrade as I understand that he has good hands
as well as a shifty running style. He is not the guy if we run the O scheme we ran last year which everyone calls a WCO but really isn’t. The WCO is not a balanced Offense. It is by definition a 70-75% a passing offense where the pass sets up the run – not the other way around. We ran a traditional/WCO hybrid Offense last year. You cannot just decide to run a WCO. You need the personell who suit it. Benson definately does not. Pead will be a decent and possibly a very good WCO RB but only if we move to a pure WCO. The best RB can onkly be viewed thru the lens of the O scheme. I am not sure we have a defined Offensive identity. That makes ranking RBs problematic.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Is Pead playing in any of the post season games (east west, north south, senior bowl, etc...)
so that the non-UC homers who didn’t get to watch him face juggernauts like Austin Peay, L’ville, and South Florida will get to watch him play ball?
i don't
what
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
by Doc Scratch on Jan 25, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
touch screen phone
Just hit buttons by accident lol
by JCompton41 on Jan 25, 2012 2:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Same goes to Martin who played
Powerhouses like
Nevada
Fresno State
Wyoming
Colorado State
UNLV
New Mexico
but Martin has an NFL body. Pead doesn’t.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 2:44 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
idk about that, I agree he can get bigger
but look at CJ2K… im sure thats why he slipped to the third round because no one thought he could take the load
AMAS
?
CJ2K went in round 1, and it’s because he ran a 4.24
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 4:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
lol im tripping on this one, I had it backwards
but my point is, Chris Johnson is not big by any means, but he is able to handle the load. So, I don’t think its that necessary that Pead gains wieght, even though it would be perferred.
AMAS
I understand, but CJ2K was obviously special and an exception to the rule. Most 5’11" RBs are in the 215-225 range. Not 190-200
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 4:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
IDK, when I watch Pead run i definetly see an "it" factor
of course, I could be way off base here. But usually pretty good at picking out special talent.
I don’t go as in depth as some you guys on here, but I remember the same feeling I had about Julio Jones when I watched him a few years back.
AMAS
These are the types of videos I watch
Here’s a new Isaiah Pead video.
http://t.co/SiFNrrh6
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 4:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
awesome will have to check this one out too
btw… when is the official cincyjungle mock draft coming out? are you guys going to do another round table type thing?
AMAS
Did my mock draft 2 weeks ago
you can google it: Bengals draft 2012: Mock 1.0
Will have another mock after Sr Bowl.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 4:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
thats right.... I thought you did a good job!
But I guess I remember something different last year, I wasn’t sure if you was on here around that time. But they had a collective mock draft, where they designated a person to a team and every one took their turns picking for their team…
I thought that would be a good idea for this year too, since there seems to be a lot draft buzz
Overall, I think you pretty much have it down to a science. keep up the good work!
AMAS
Been on here since 07, playa. Yeah we did the community mock. It took too long and was a pain. Scrapped it.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 5:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Thanks for the video.
He has incredibly quick feet, but he did miss some blocks and dropped a pass or two and then muffed that punt. When he got in the open field though he put on a show.
by Animal_Like_Football on Jan 25, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
should we be worried that Pead faded down the stretch?
His ypc dropped by over 1.5 yards a carry from his first 6 (6.8) games to his final 7 games (5.2)
(and was only 4.0 over his last 4 games)
His TD total dropped in half from his first 6 games (8) to his final 7 games (4)
It’s not like his final 7 games included teams like LSU or Bama
They also lost Colaros
Which meant every defense they played was stacking the box on every single snap. Then when Colaros came back for the bowl game, Pead exploded again.
by eric nyc on Jan 25, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that
people tried to make Munchie beat them through the air. He couldn’t.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
by Doc Scratch on Jan 25, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
No, if we go to a pure WCO as the number of carries should average only between 15-18 snaps a game.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Read This
This is by Matt Waldman. He’s a really good scout. Read his Pead breakdown. http://t.co/8ebe5Op0
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 9:57 AM EST via Android app reply actions
That's a really good read
But what I take away from it is “Isaiah Pead is a really good RB prospect who could have a similar career path to LeSean McCoy, CJ Spiller, and Reggie Bush.” I think any of us would be happy drafting any of those three guys in the 2nd round after seeing them reach their potential. No one said Pead was a perfect back right now. If he was he’d be a top 10 pick. But as a low 2nd round pick, sure coach him up. He has the tools and it doesn’t sound like that writer disagrees.
McCoy, currently a top five back in the NFL.
that’s great company. The rest? Spiller’s been used in an entirely diminished role for the Bills since his drafting. Reggie Bush has been okay but never great.
So you basically have great, questionable, and average. Decent company, not the best.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
by Doc Scratch on Jan 25, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Bush finally put it all together this year
I don’t think Sean Payton really knows how to use a running game and that held him back. Before he got hurt he was having a GREAT season in Miami. If Pead’s skills are being compared to those three guys, he’s in good company all around.
I wouldn't say he put it all together until he repeats this kind of performance next year.
I mean, c’mon, we’re all familiar with guys having crazy career years and then doing nothing afterwards, right?
/Benson
//Geathers
///Odom
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
very true, i think being in New orleans messed with his ego a bit
Bush probably played with a chip on his sholder and he was the main guy in Miami which probably helped out his confidence
AMAS
Benson has never shown the skill Reggie Bush showed this past season.
Geathers definitely fits the mold for having a crazy year and doing nothing afterward, though.
question for pretty much joe goodberry
Robert turbin Utah state. Any info on him
by JCompton41 on Jan 25, 2012 10:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Yes sir. Did you see my RB post from last week? let me find a link really quick.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 10:30 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2012/1/20/2721176/2012-bengals-draft-top-10-running-backs
9) Robert Turbin – Utah State – 5’10" 220 lbs -4.55*
2011 Stats: 249 carries for 1,517 yards (6.1) 19 TD – 17 receptions for 171 yards 4 TD
Strengths: Muscular and strong build; open field vision; uses a jump-cut to get around blocks; natural receiver (67 career catches); turns shoulders and gets skinny in the hole for a powerful runner; breaks tackles and can drag defenders, nose for the end zone.
Weaknesses: Not laterally explosive; one speed runner; lower level competition; average speed; could be in better shape; slow feet – gets tripped up a lot; dances far too much for a big back.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 10:35 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
got ya
I haven’t seen him play but he’s huge and looked like h.e would be good.
by JCompton41 on Jan 25, 2012 12:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what round is he expected?
I don’t think I’d want him based on what you said for anything more than a situational back.
by JCompton41 on Jan 25, 2012 2:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He’s got LaGarrett Blount upside. I have a 5th round grade.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 3:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
1.)Miller
2.)Richardson
3.)Martin
4.)Pead
5.)Wilson
6.)James
7.)Polk
8.)Rainey
9.)Herron
10.)Ganaway
Miller ahead of Richardson?
You’re on a lonely island there. What’s your reasoning?
by Animal_Like_Football on Jan 25, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Just saw a CBS sports scout compare...
Pead to Mike Goodson (Panthers). 3rd string RB & Kick Return guys.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 11:08 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Richardson, Martin, Pead and Pierce all do a really good job and cutting from one foot, keeping them from being tripped, short strides for COD ability.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 11:46 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yea Richardson, Martin and Pead would be the only RBs I would go after in this draft
just because I think it would be a good fit with our offense.
Miller Im on the fence with because he has excellent speed, but it almost seems he goes at two speeds. Fast and really fast. Im not sure if he will get the same type of holes he had in college vs what he will have in the pros. But then again speed kills if you know how to use. I would like to see him be more patient and use his feet more.
AMAS
Youtube: Bernard Pierce. DON’T EVER WATCH HIGHLIGHTS (that’s to everybody, not just you) watch Pierce vs Army, but I think there’s 6 games total to watch.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 12:53 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i know this is crazy talk...
but shouldn’t we wait until we have some post-season all-star games, and the combine before we get too dead set on the exact rankings of the RB’s, which is not just mere conjecture based on watching highlights and pieces of various games against teams of varying abilities.
i agree that the rankings can change a lot after the combine and all-star games
but you have to start some where and compile a list. So that way you can update as the year goes to keep a more accurate rating IMO. Sort of like the NCAA top 25 from week one to the last week the ratings change rapidly but you have to start somewhere.
AMAS
There’s no way I could get it all done in 6-8 weeks. Teams don’t wait until post-season events are finished. They have most players graded already. Now these All-Star games & workouts are to adjust rankings and look for answers to questions you still have on particular players. So really, it’s a fluid process but it’s not a guessing game currently. The rankings arent far off and are getting closer by the day.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 12:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
it's all an intellectual exercise.
harmless
if you like it, it’s intellectual exercise.
If you dislike it, it’s mental masterbation.
Go Reds!
(and gooooo krogering)
by supergrover on Jan 25, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
i like the mock drafts....but after a point, and so early, they get a bit silly
becuase we are arguing points on players who in 4 weeks may not even be mentioned as day 1 draftable guys.
true. I was pretty convinced Da'Quan Bowers was a top 5 pick in the draft last year.
One major knee problem later and he ends up at the end of the second (which in hindsight was a bit of a reach after a 1.5 sack 2011 campaign).
by Animal_Like_Football on Jan 25, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
You guys are killing me with all the mock drafts! I can't keep up with them all.
soon to be seen headlines:
Gotta poop, but here’s a mock draft. brb
screw that guy. here’s my mock of his mock while he drops his kids off at the pool
Whew. That was a toughie. Here’s a new mock scenario I worked out while working it out. Pardon the smell… that’s the Steelers. Yeah, that’s it.
Plane crashes into Applachians, killing entire Giants squad. Mock draft as result
Go Reds!
(and gooooo krogering)
by supergrover on Jan 25, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
lol! nice job Supergrover
that made me laugh
"When you see it open up and all you can see is the end zone, it’s hard to describe how relieving it feels." -Ced Benson
by ItsAlwaysSunnyInDayton on Jan 25, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
I absolutely agree
I just thought what he said was amusing. There is a lot to be excited about, and not much else to talk about in the offseason.
"When you see it open up and all you can see is the end zone, it’s hard to describe how relieving it feels." -Ced Benson
by ItsAlwaysSunnyInDayton on Jan 25, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
My favorite mock was the "Gotta poop, but here’s a mock draft."
Except they didn’t have us taking any o-linement until later in the draft, but gave us 2 WR’s and 2 LB’s.
lol still doesn't make sense that we picked Pee'd (pead) with our number 2 pick
kind of an oxy moron if you get my drift
AMAS
i know i was going to post one but figures there was enough already.
by JCompton41 on Jan 25, 2012 2:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol like a said before
i was trying to make this into, “how good can Pead really be in the NFL”, type of debate
AMAS
Yeah, very limited.
I didn’t think they’d bother in the Senior Bowl. I always figured he did it in Cincinnati out of necessity a few times.
it’s because teams view him as a situational player, so they’re looking for ways to get him more touches. Punt returns and catches are what they’ve been focusing him on.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 25, 2012 3:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i really like how the Saints use their RBs and specifically Sproles....
thats how I see us using Pead, but I doubt he would be much of an upgrade over Tate. But Bernard, IMO, could do a better job than tate if Bernard went back to return kicks full time and get a few touches here and there.
AMAS
Ranked on who I think will have biggest Impact in the NFL.
Before you attack that I ranked Miller over Richardson, remember when everyone
thought that Mark Ingram (Bama) would be the second coming?
Bottom line……Miller did “more” with a lot less in front of him than Richardson.
Speed “does matter” in the NFL and Miller is the fastest player in college, period!
Faster than WR’s. Faster than CB’s. Faster than LaMichael James and Chris Rainey.
Speed, Shiftiness, Ability to run into the 3 C’s (my patent)
Creases,Cracks, and Crevices before they close up.
That’s what this kid does!
I’m from Miami and have seen this Kid play, and believe me when I tell
you that he will have the biggest Impact as a RB out of this years crop.
#1Miller
#2Richardson
#3Martin
#4Polk
#5James
#6Pead
#7Wilson
#8Rainey
Nobody else worth talking about.
"What we do in this life echoes in eternity"
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