Flacco: Respect Envy
Joe Flacco wants a new contract. He deserves one. He has won in the playoffs in all four years of his career, he's been to the AFC Championship game twice, he's thrown over 3,600 yards and 20 touchdowns every season he's played and he's never been hurt. Yet there are two reasons why he is valued lower than he should be.
Somehow, being drafted by a top organization with a uniquely talented running back and a fabled defense has hurt Flacco's legacy. All of his personal triumphs have always been redirected toward the glory of the team's other strengths. For a fleeting moment, Flacco had done it. In the fourth quarter of the AFC Championship in Foxborough, Joe Flacco led his team from behind and completed a perfectly thrown touchdown pass into the hands of Lee Evans with roughly 30 seconds to go to the Super Bowl. In the very next nanosecond, Sterling Moore knocked the ball from Evans' hands, and kept Flacco offstage again.
Had Evans hung on, Flacco could have changed public opinion of him and would join the ranks of those who at least made it to the game. His play was good enough to win, he proved the doubters wrong even though the team lost.
Still, I don't think the world is ready to give the nod to Flacco and would prefer to keep him mired in his own tragedy. We like him balanced precariously on the cusp of greatness without ever pouring him over the rim. For a thousand different reasons, not everybody wins and Joe Flacco is a walking example of such an Aesop moral.
Perhaps even the coldest among us might soften up to Poor Joe and maybe even root for him once in a while if the guy had a different attitude. As if the mockery of a mustache and the heavily-sedated facial expressions weren't enough, Joe decided to let us know—on a few occasions—that we all need to start appreciating him more. Such sentiments are hardly original, but when Flacco vents like that, he comes off as a moody little goth teen and everybody else screws up their faces listening to him. Joe seems adversarial, almost like a grossly uninformed conspiracy theorist who is offended at your disinterest in the evils of secret societies. No one wants to hear him complain of his perceived lack of value. Sympathy of any kind is hard to wrestle from the public, most of all when it deals with getting a few less million dollars. All the people want to hear is that he will try harder next year and that the business end will work itself out. Maybe that's how top athletes get screwed compared to their peers, I don't know, but as explained above, I don't really give a damn.
The funny part is, there is no way the Ravens aren't going to resign him. He has another year on his rookie contract, then he is going to hit the jackpot—compared to the rest-of-the-world standards. It probably won't be an elite contract, but he isn't an elite quarterback. If he wants the prime-rib of the Ravens' cash cow, he will either have to make sure that his touchdown pass doesn't get dropped next year, or pressure Ozzie Newsome privately in his office. Either way, the more he complains to all of us about not being liked enough, the less we like him at all.
Mojokong—to Cali the Cat!
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lol if flacco wants to be elite, then they better start surronding him with elite talent
their elite talent is on the defensive side minus Rice.
But one can agrue most of his success comes from consistant defensive play. And all Flacco has to do is play good enough to not lose the game for them.
AMAS
Flacco showed some serious heart last week
I think he played really well and deserves to get paid. The playoffs every year. He was a play or two away from going to the superbowl (see=lee evans)…I actually gained some respect for the Ravens last week. I actually like this team. I think this enlightenment is possible with any team in the league…except for the Steelers…who can die a slow death..
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 25, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
He had the presence of a dunce but I think he deserves to be paid as well
In a world where perception is imcreasingly confused with reality Joe gets the brunt of it. Those wou would argue that Dalton should have received more consideration for ROY because he won should aply the same logic to Joe. It isn’t how he won the playoff games it is how many he has won and he has won one every year he has been in the league. Elite? No, but deserving of a pretty good contract none the less.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
I agree
I dont agree with the presence of a dunce, but I do agree he has had some bad games.
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 25, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
tical, what I meant is that he doesn't have the typical appearance of the
prototypical QB. When Payton Manning looks at you the appearance is that of a steely eyed athlete. When Flacco looks at you he gives one the impression that the lights are on but nobodys home. It is just a look of confidence that I find lacking. It is all image. The term dunce was a bit strong but I was trying to drive home a point. I actually think Flacco is a good QB and though he has some games where he seems to be really off he also has had some great moments as well. Pay da man.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
I agree he needs to be paid, but lets be real. When was the last time the Ravens played with an Elite QB and paid them?
Flacco is somewhat expendable to the Ravens, so he maybe a little disgruntled next year.
AMAS
Flacco is in the same boat as Sanchez and now dalton
dalton had a great year… Yes but most will say its mostly due to his D… and thats ok.
by Bengalsfan024 on Jan 25, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
I'll call him elite when he proves it to me.
Thus far, he hasn’t. He has flashes of excellence, but so did Palmer late in his career, the types of flashes that give you the hope that maybe, just maybe, he could take off. The only difference is, Palmer did, for awhile. He absolutely carried this team 2004-2007, and he was the reason for our brief success. You really can’t say the same about Flacco. Sure, he’s had games where he’s done well, such as this most recent AFCCG, but he’s never really put together a complete season like that. He’s never really proven himself to be an excellent, consistent QB. Instead you get a Unibro who can go from games like the one against Jacksonville to ones against the Patriots.
To put it into point: I want to see Flacco carry his team. I want him to dominate games. I don’t want him simply not to turn the ball over. Any decent game manager can do that.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
He still sucks
Ok he played good against NE so that means he’s all of a sudden elite. He played good against Pitt earlier this year as well but some of the games between the Pitt game (when he played well ) and NE game (when he played well) were really bad. He’s way to inconsistent to be considered an elite QB, but I hope the Ravens do re-sign so we can get back to tearing them up on a coonsistent basis
does he HAVE to be elite
I thought he played his a___ off last week. This team has went to the playoffs every year that he has been there.
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 25, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
I agee he played his a$$ off against the Pat
But obviously that does NOT make him elite. I think he is a descent QB not great, mainly becuase he’s inconsistent. Alex Smith (this year) is a comparable player and you do not see him getting paid like an elite level QB. If the Ravens decide to pay him like an elite level QB than I’m happy because that means they don’t have that money to spend in other areas
That's convenient.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Flacco's career
Has mostly what Alex Smith did this year. He makes some plays when he needs to but he also has games where if it wasn’t for the running game and defense the Ravens would have lost. While I’ll agree he does deserve to get paid he is not in the top tier of QBs in the league. As long as he has a solid running game and defense he will be a good “game manager”. But after 4 years in the league how can you expect him to get any better other than a touch more consistent. It is possible for him to become a good QB but people should not put the pressure on him to become one when he is winning games the way he. But like I said if his defense or run game fails then it could be a problem
AJ Green = Optimus Prime
He has a couple of games where he does win it for his team.
But any average QB has a game or two like that in him a season (even Dalton did). We’ve seen already what Unibro can do. People need to accept he’ll be average-to-good at best, but never great, let alone elite. Dalton outperformed him this season. Imagine what we could’ve done with Ray Rice on our team.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
could be the 'stache causing some of the respect issues..

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
I had a fumanchu one summer and also got zero respect
From my experience, he could help himself out by growing some sort of beard that doesn’t make mothers shield their children from him.
by Animal_Like_Football on Jan 25, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
this is awesome...palewook........+10000.....best one ever.....lololol
I cant believe I didnt think of this one…
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 25, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
hell you could always photoshop the 2 images together
something to rag the ravens fans with
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
I want him to continue to be doubted by his Teammates!
Then of course,let that creep into his head,some people think he already has!
The longer this goes on the better,Flacco isnt the"i’ll show you guy"
Flacco’s more the guy who needs to be told everyday how great he is,and there isnt anybody who can look
at this guy and take him serious,seems like the stache is his cover,for being a big Puss!
"A team is more than a group of individuals,its a group of individuals that come together to make a team"

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