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Around SBN: What If This Is It For The Celtics? End Of An Era Looming

Open Thread: TGIF

Mike ZImmer is staying in Cincinnati, but Kevin Coyle is leaving. Four Bengals players are in Hawaii gearing up for the Pro Bowl. Former Bengals quarterback Greg Cook passed away today. The Senior Bowl will also be played this weekend.

Pick a topic and talk about it.

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Is that willis

willis mcgahee …. I still remember that devastating knee injury in that college bowl game…..

To see Dalton in that pick handing it off to willis … Well just shows you can come back from any thing as long as you have the heart.

Do you know what a super man Ass Whooping is ?... Its the type of Ass Whooping you wish you could Fly away from !....

by 77CincyRage on Jan 27, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I am more sad now that i have researched Greg Cook and seen what might have been

Congrats to Coyle on your promotion….

Still looking 4 LBer coach / DB Coach now. hopefully we will get those soon
Also dont forget the replacement for Lippencott who retired this offseason.

4 youngins in the probowl. will do nothing but help them improve their game.
all in the 2nd year or less oldest is dalton @ 24 long bright future here in cincy.

and after Mike Zimmers latest comment. I’d say now would be a good time to promote him to HC

by Bengalsfan024 on Jan 27, 2012 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

why?

The head coach told him he needed more production. Remember we didn’t start generating turnovers until Marvin blasted the defense play. If that’s case why not play Sands or Miles over Crocker?

by pray4gm11 on Jan 27, 2012 2:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

well first 2 years were stop the run

then rush the passer…

next will be Get the ball.

by Bengalsfan024 on Jan 27, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

ha ha ha

That’s a hell of development. In all honestly though a hard hitting safety and one sure tackling lb a take a lot of our defensive problems away.

by pray4gm11 on Jan 27, 2012 2:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh yes we need a new starting SS

Could Be Sands Could be Mays could be Barron

who knows but it will be someone….

And LBer we get Moch this year and Muckeroy (who is a sure tackler) we just need Lbers that can cover TE’s

And Mays did a good job covering TE Owen Daniels in the first round vs the texasn but was inactive for the playoff game

Meaning Mays could be used as a cover LBer if we get a playmaking SS elsewhere or we can have 3 safties on the field vs 2 TE sets

by Bengalsfan024 on Jan 27, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Crocker was still netter in coverage than Sands or Mays would’ve been.

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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 27, 2012 9:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Don't know about that

Crocker was pretty bad in coverage:)

by biggie22 on Jan 27, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Picks1-4

1. Decastro
2. Miller
3. Jenkins
4. Konz

I this is our best options… Jenkins could be swapped out if you want. I also think if for some odd reason Kirkpatrick would fall to 17 I would go:

1. Kirkpatrick
2. Decastro
3. Konz
2. Pead/Martin

AD to AJ = TD!!

by Toasted_Orange_Monster on Jan 27, 2012 2:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

are you saying Konz in round 3 or 4?

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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 27, 2012 9:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I want the Baylor wr

He’s a sure fire playmaker. I rather have him than any cb other than Kirpatrick. So I’ll take Barron and Wright with first two picks.

by pray4gm11 on Jan 27, 2012 2:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Wright? ill pass hes a play maker sure but hes also 5'10" and we have 3 slot guys

but for a #2 WR we could pick up Posey later and Binns/Hazelton might blow up this year who knows

But in the First we need a DB be it CB both jenkins or kirkpatrick could fall due to arrest.
And either Richardson… or OG. (only RB in the 1st would be richardson)

by Bengalsfan024 on Jan 27, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

+1 I agree with you Bengalsfan024

but from my dealings with Pray, he will not let it go that easily, get ready….

by pemci on Jan 27, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I'LL AGREE ALSO

But posey, binns/hazelton is not on wright level. More so on Caldwell level. We need a speed demon on outside that’s why I mentioned Wright. Jury still out on Jenkins didn’t look all that impressive to me at practice this week.

by pray4gm11 on Jan 27, 2012 2:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

In that case

Why not take Rainey in the 4th?

What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.

by jimbasa on Jan 27, 2012 7:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sleeper of draft. Look like he was playing a lot of wr this week also.

by pray4gm11 on Jan 27, 2012 8:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I would love rainey

he can be like a sproles. We need a return man that can be a game changer,

by Masonr on Jan 27, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

"Jury still out on Jenkins didn’t look all that impressive to me at practice this week."

Just and FYI to pray’s comment I am quoting. He is the ONLY person in all of the scouts, fans, etc that thinks he wasn’t impressive at practice this week.

by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 27, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

watch him for urself dude

I don’t go off what some tv dude says. His he probably was impressive because as I mentioned all cb sucked to me. Only one stood out was a Bentley kid. Put it like this didn’t none of the top 6 cb at senior move up I’m my opinion.

by pray4gm11 on Jan 27, 2012 3:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Only CBs that moved up for me have been Bentley, Fleming, Norman and Asa Jackson. All guys I didn’t get to see much. Jenkins played solid, as I expected him to. Dennard played poor in off coverage. As I expected.

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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 27, 2012 9:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I hope he has an interception...

and a slew of other great stats and makes u look even more like the idiot you are. BTW your posts are really annoying to read because you are unable to speak a lick of proper english…. “Put it like this didn’t none of the top 6 cb at senior move up I’m my opinion.” is practically the dumbest way of saying “To put it simply, none of the top six CB’s stocks after their practices for the Senior Bowl rose, in my opinion.” If you want someone to really take you arguments seriously, please learn to speak a little smarter because God know’s you are not helping yourself out by ignoring facts that are plain as day available to you.

by joecincy07 on Jan 27, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

who moved up? um nobody!!!

Before senior bowl all ur so called experts were saying Jenkins fell off and this dude name Denard was better prospect. Denard shouldn’t even been invited to participate while Jenkins wasn’t bad compared to the other cb but he did struggle in man coverage to me. Too me he want be an upgrade over Pac man, so why spend 1st rd pick on him? Damn, get off my nuts Zimmer just said yesterday that if #2 dt and #4 cb available were taking dt. So what that mean smart guy? Zimmer must believe that #3/4 cb prospects aren’t that highly rated in his book. And what facts have u spoken? U keep telling me what everybody else saying. Where I’m from we call that jock riding. And dummy Jenkins my favorite player out draft so I wanna see him in stripes but I also wanna win this CHAMPIONSHIP I smell. Go back on all the older post I was on Jenkins first and u lames wanted Denard talking crap about my boy had character issues. I just call it how I see it Yall, if Jenkins wasn’t shutting down wr at practice and none are 1st rd picks then why u think he can come in and start from day one?

by pray4gm11 on Jan 27, 2012 4:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

draft aint only place to improve ur team

Wr class isn’t has deep as Cb/ g class so u get more value taking wr in 1st. I wouldn’t mind dt or lb either.

by pray4gm11 on Jan 27, 2012 2:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not looking to argue,

but Jenkins and also Boykins flat out dominated this week.
If he interviews well, Jenkins will be 1st round guy.
Martin also looked sharp as can be.

by JoeskiBroski on Jan 27, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Uh Oh Joeski

you said Jenkins dominated… watch out for pray4gm11…

by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 27, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to agree.

Why pass up the chance to get a dominant player to draft the 4th or 5th best player at a position, just because its a position of need. Great teams get the best players. Bad teams draft for needs

by EPK1979 on Jan 28, 2012 1:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This is from ESPN's Jamison Hensley and his ALL-AFC North Team:

Wide receiver: A.J. Green, Bengals. The fourth overall pick in the 2011 draft made an immediate impact as a deep threat. His 11 receptions in 2011 of 35 or more yards tied Detroit’s Calvin Johnson and the N.Y. Giants’ Victor Cruz for most in the NFL. It was the most by an NFL rookie since 1998, when Minnesota’s Randy Moss had 14. Green had six catches of 35-plus yards over the last seven regular-season games. His 51-yard catch over Joe Haden set up the game-winning field goal in Cincinnati’s 23-20 win in Week 12.

Tight end: Jermaine Gresham, Bengals. This was perhaps the closest call on offense. Gresham edged out Pittsburgh’s Heath Miller and Baltimore’s Ed Dickson because he led AFC North tight ends in receptions (56) and touchdown catches (six). In the comeback win over the Bills, Gresham pulled the Bengals to within 17-13 in the third quarter with a one-handed 17-yard touchdown grab and then had a 25-yard reception in the fourth quarter, which was the longest play in the game-tying drive.

Right tackle: Andre Smith, Bengals. The most improved player in the division, Smith is quietly starting to distance himself from the label of being a first-round bust. This isn’t to say he didn’t have some poor games and a high number of penalties (eight). Overall, it was a bad year for right tackles in the division. Smith stood out because he stayed on the field for 14 games, doubling last year’s total, and developed into an above-average starter.

by pemci on Jan 27, 2012 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

All-AFC North Defense Team:

Defensive end: Carlos Dunlap, Bengals. Tough call over Pittsburgh’s Brett Keisel. Before being slowed by a hamstring injury, Dunlap was getting to the quarterback like no other defensive end in the division. Despite missing four games, he recorded 4.5 sacks and led the Bengals with 27 quarterback pressures, which was four more than anyone else on the team.

Defensive tackle: Geno Atkins, Bengals. While the Bengals’ run defense faltered in the second half of the season, their front four pressured the quarterback like no other in the AFC North and perhaps the league. And Atkins was a huge part of that by collapsing the pocket up the middle. He tied Oakland’s Tommy Kelly for sacks by an interior lineman in the NFL with 7.5. He is the first Bengals interior lineman to top the team in sacks since 1996, when Dan Wilkinson led with 6.5.

by pemci on Jan 27, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

thats about right

What cb made it over Clements?

by pray4gm11 on Jan 27, 2012 3:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You know, if you don't like the team,

you are more than free to follow another team

by pemci on Jan 27, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

reed had damn near more int then our safeties

In postseason alone. He better by himself than Crocker and Nelson is together. Troy always been and will be overrated

by pray4gm11 on Jan 27, 2012 3:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA

Tray is overrated?!?! The guy is all over the field make play after play when he is on the field. The only thing that could possibly put him close to a line of being overrated is him being prone to injury. Ed Reed and Troy are deserving of the credit they receive, as is ryan clark.

by joecincy07 on Jan 27, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

fell off years ago

All over the field getting beat.

by pray4gm11 on Jan 27, 2012 3:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hmmm lets compare

Nelson – He had 85 total tackles, 59 were solo tackles, and 26 were assists. He also had 2 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, 4 interceptions, and 12 pass deflections.

Troy – He had 91 total tackles, 61 were solo tackles, and 27 were assists. He also had 1 sack, 2 interceptions, and 14 pass deflections.

That to me says that they had a very similar year, but I wouldn’t say better.

by joecincy07 on Jan 27, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

yea i have been reading them

I have been following what has been said since like 4 hours ago and finally got fed up with him. Aside from all his crazy arguments, he sounds like an idiot when he speaks, like he did not make it past the 8th grade.

by joecincy07 on Jan 27, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and by the way...

by bringing up FACTS, you also risk being told (like I was and Oregon was) that we do not watch football, but rather just read up on the stats after the game…

by pemci on Jan 27, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

nelson stats are better

And troy don’t even really play coverage any more. Dude been overrated his whole girlhood career.

by pray4gm11 on Jan 27, 2012 4:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

nelson stats are better

And troy don’t even really play coverage any more. Dude been overrated his whole girlhood career.

by pray4gm11 on Jan 27, 2012 4:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Wow

I never noticed his stat line! Those are pretty good numbers! ha

by JoeskiBroski on Jan 27, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

yup. Why I’ve been saying re-signing Nelson is going to cost

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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 27, 2012 9:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

+1

One of the most underrated on our defense.

AJ Green = Optimus Prime

by Helmsy on Jan 28, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Since the Reds play at home on Sept. 9

I guess that means the Bengals will open on the road… unless they get the early Monday nighter against Oakland.

Watching Stanford Jennings kick return in the Super Bowl was the out of body experience of my sports life.

by txbengal29 on Jan 27, 2012 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

Actually

I’m going to start deleting comments and banning users. Some of this is getting ridiculous.

Personal comments directed at people will not be tolerated.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Jan 27, 2012 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

you know i was about to flag a few of the comments

had to hit refresh on the page to load my pw, and in a blink, the comments in question were gone.

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 27, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

name calling and racists remarks on TOTALLY different LEVEL

If it was other way around I would’ve got blasted then banned ASAP.

by pray4gm11 on Jan 27, 2012 9:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Whoa fellas!

What makes all this fun is people get to post their opinions. You dont have to like their opinions. The floor is open to debate. Everyone dont have to agree but everyone should be respected.

by EPK1979 on Jan 28, 2012 1:56 AM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

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