Open Thread: The 2012 Senior Bowl
by Josh Kirkendall on Jan 28, 2012 6:25 PM EST
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PrintMany of tomorrow's NFL players will be showcased this Saturday at the 2012 Senior Bowl, scheduled to kickoff at 4 p.m. (Eastern) on the NFL Network. Last year's game featured future Bengals like offensive guard Clint Boling and quarterback Andy Dalton, who completed three of seven passes for 22 yards passing.
What tomorrow's players today at the 2012 Senior Bowl, and follow along with our own Joe Goodberry.
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Predictions for MVP?
I’m taking Chris Polk.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:06 PM EST via Android app reply actions
No. Not at all.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
not at all
But Polk is the type of RB who will be better in-game and even better as he gets a feel for his OL. He’s a very instinctive runner. Needs continuity.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Janoris Jenkins...
"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."
by Dwight Carter on Jan 28, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Joe - any news re: Doug Martin's age? I can't find it anywhere
He was on Boise states’ team as far back as 2007, but I can’t find his age.
I think him as a prospect, but he may be a Russian spy considering the “secrecy” surrounding his age.
by The_Black_Stripes on Jan 28, 2012 3:15 PM EST reply actions
Hahahahaha - maybe he's the real "Fausto Carmona"
by The_Black_Stripes on Jan 28, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
or
play baseball
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach and hiring Jack Del Rio as Defensive Coordinator. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Nothing. And it’s strange lol
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
somebody just tweeted me & said his Birthday is 1-3-89 (23)
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Awesome - thanks!!
So he is essentially only 2 years younger than Ray Rice, yet Rice just completed his 4th year in the league. I don’t mean to be a stickler about age, but it seems to be an issue with rbs, more so than any other positions. Martin also had over 500 career carries in college. I really like him as a prospect, though.
Thanks for find this out!
by The_Black_Stripes on Jan 28, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Because some have asked, here's the rankings on the CBs I've graded so far...
1) Mo Claiborne – LSU
2) Dre Kirkpatrick – Bama
3) Stephon Gilmore – S.Car
4) Janoris Jenkins – N.Alabama
5) Casey Hayward – Candy
6) Jamell Fleming – Oklahoma
7) Leonard Johnson – Iowa St
8) Chase Minnefield – Virginia
9) Alfonzo Dennard – Nebraska
10) Josh Norman – Coastal Car
11) Brandon Boykin – Georgia
12) Jayron Hosely – Va tech
13) Trumaine Johnson – Montana
14) Asa Jackson – Cal Poly
15) Donnie Fletcher – B.C.
16) Dwight “Bill” Bentley – Lafayette
17) Ryan Steed – Furman
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:20 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Seriously… 4-5 hours a night until May 1st.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think
he’s hooked up to an IV pumping coffee
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach and hiring Jack Del Rio as Defensive Coordinator. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
I'm going to have to check out Gilmore...
"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, I then acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning."
by Dwight Carter on Jan 28, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Where's the University of Candy?
I wish I went there!
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Vandy. I’m on my phone = Autocorrect lol
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I know I'm just playin
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Trumaine Johnson
Why so low? If he played in a bigger school he would be 1st round. He;s a ball hawk along with Casey Hayward that’s exactly the type of CB we haven’t got. Josh Robinson?
Exactly. In a deep class, small schoolers will be ranked lower. He’s still a 3rd rounder. Haven’t watched Johnson. I won’t rank somebody I haven’t watched.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I meant Robinson. I haven’t watched.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah. He’s on my lost coming up
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Love this Bobby Wagner LB. Can’t wait to get into more games of his. He really stood out in practices.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:35 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Might see Pead next.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Interested to see how OLB Sean Spence plays
He had a pretty solid week at practice, and considering that Zimmer is on record as saying, “We have to improve at EVERY LEVEL on defense”, I expect to Bengals to really focus on defensive playmakers at all positions. Rivers and Howard enter the final years of their contract, and Manny is an UFA. Moch provides no guarentees, either. I think this defense desperately needs defensive playmakers. I like Sean Spence and we’ll see how he plays today.
by The_Black_Stripes on Jan 28, 2012 3:32 PM EST reply actions
How do you feel about Barron?
I know he plays safety but I agree we need an upgrade at a play making position. But SS last year was the biggest liability on the defense. Think if Crocker would have just gotten 2 INT this year, it could have changed the out come of the year… not joke.
AMAS
Love Barron
If drafted by the Bengals, we would have the Red Rifle, and a Barron (I.e. a Red Baron – great pizza, and even greater ad campaign back in the day)
by The_Black_Stripes on Jan 28, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Joe....
How long to you think Doug Martin stays on the board in the draft?
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I’ve seen people have him as high as late first and as low as early third. I personally think he’ll be available when the Bengals pick in round 2.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
For those who asked for my updated RB rankings...
1) Richardson – Bama
2a) Doug Martin – Boise
2b) Chris Polk – Washington
2c) Lamar Miller – Miami
5) David Wilson – Va Tech
6) Bernard Pierce – Temple
7) LaMicheal James – Oregon
8) Isaiah Pead – Cincy
9) Robert Turbin – Utah St
10) Vick Ballard – Mississippi St
11) Terrance Ganaway – Baylor
12) Tauren Poole – Tenn
13) Dan Herron – OSU
14) Cyrus Gray – Texas A&M
15) Chris Rainey – Florida
16) Bryce Bell – Houston
17) Marc Tyler – USC
18) Antwon Bailey – Syracuse
19) Jonas Gray – N.D.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
why James so low?
Here is my top 5
Martin
Richardson
James
Pead
Ganaway
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 3:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Size, injuries, not as fast as you’d think. Others are better.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
yea i agree about James
here is my updated top five
1. Richardson
2. Pead
3. Martin
4. James
5. Miller
AMAS
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
so we have the 53rd pick in the 2nd
no way Martin stays on the board past 40. Washington will pick him up with their 2nd round pick if they don’t address it in the first
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They drafted 2 RBs last year. Nobody can guarantee that a specific team is drafting somebody in January. FA hasn’t even happened yet.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:53 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
very true, but to pick up a potential Ray Rice
you really think shanahan will pass up on that value int he 2nd? Shanahan is a RB nut.
AMAS
I really couldn’t tell you. I bet he’ll want a ZBS type RB. Not sure Martin is that. He may want Miller or Polk. Or even Pead.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
yea the more I watch pead vs the other backs, the more it makes sense for the bengals to pick him up
if you look at the plays the Pead is more successul at… its out of the shotgun. With a slot or TE and two WR. To me it sounds like he would excell under Gruedens style offense.
Miller would be tempting but then we would have to adjust our style of offense back to last year and think we are going to let gruden do his thing,
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Tampa bay might too
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by Dwight Carter on Jan 28, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
yea there will be 5 RB taking by the 53rd pick
almost every other team can use a fresh RB year in and year out. The average RB is in the league about 3 yrs. Traditionally speaking.
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I’m thinking 3-5 taken by pick 53. It could leave options 4, 5, & 6
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 3:59 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
one team i suspect might be looking for a rb in the 2nd - 3rd round and not considered a threat to draft one
the pats.
BenJarvus Green-Ellis will be a free agent and hasn’t been all that for the pats in 2011
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
Might be time for him to get replaced
But he’s been useful and is kind of what they look for in their RBs.
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
Washington?
They had 2 rookies this year that each had 100 yard games. Guys I wanted in the 3rd and 6th rounds, respectively, in Helu and Royster. I don’t see them taking a RB in the first few rounds with all the other needs they have.
Just because ESPN thinks it's the most important division in football doesn't mean it's a good one
The Giants won the division with 9 wins. The Eagles were just flat horrible. The only months the Cowboys are in the playoff discussion are every single August and September, when they’re in the top 5 for super bowl favorites despite sucking every single year. It’s not a strong division.
i don't think its the best division but its defenately not weak
Their division is like our division where we consistantly send teams to the conference championship games. I tihnk becuase of the competition between divisonal teams.
AMAS
I disagree, but it's not really relevant anyway
we’re talking about a team with 2 impressive rookies at RB and whether they’ll draft yet another RB in the 2nd round. It just doesn’t make sense to me.
can see maybe a DT
no way Shanahan passes Martin up in the second. I think their Oline can take a lot of credit for those 100 yrd games
AMAS
They play 3-4
they aren’t taking Martin in round 2
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:57 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
no matter how good your line is
you don’t have consistent 100 yard games rushing with absolutely no pass attack. Helu is a stud.
Martin is more of a 3rd – 4th rounder
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I thought Mike Martin because you brought up DT
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:59 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i have a feeling with the buzz he is getting and a strong combine
Martin can probably slide into the first
AMAS
Bears just hired a new General Manager...
Question though: what’s a “General Manager”?
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 3:52 PM EST reply actions
NFL network analyst had some good things to say about Dalton
Marshall Faulk hit it spot on for Andy. Faulk said Dalton was good at throwing WR open and that he adjusted to pro’s very well. The only knock Dalton would be his arm strength, he still has area’s of improvment
AMAS
Reps and weight room for Dalton this offseason!!!
He needs to get with Brees this offseason!!!
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by Dwight Carter on Jan 28, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
there is little doubt in my mind that Dalton cant get stronger
I just think he never really had to with his intangibles. Dalton has good anticipation so he probably didn’t have to throw as hard or deep in high school and college. Hopefully he can develop an elite arm in a few years.
AMAS
I'm focusing on:
Cordy Glenn on this first drive. Watch with me.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:08 PM EST via Android app reply actions
He’s playing LT.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Jamell Flemming with the strip! He’s a fighter.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
im watching the clock tick time away
So I can go home and watch
by JCompton41 on Jan 28, 2012 4:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i didnt even think to set mine
Being out till 2 am then working at 9 didn’t leave my mind time to think.
by JCompton41 on Jan 28, 2012 4:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm at work
and we don’t have the freaking NFL network here. Work at Sears & have 13 TV’s set ut on display and NO NFL NETWORK! lol
by JoeskiBroski on Jan 28, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
no joe adams
please
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach and hiring Jack Del Rio as Defensive Coordinator. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Polk looks good
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 4:12 PM EST reply actions
That's why you like Polk
patience & vision on that run. Always falls forward.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:12 PM EST via Android app reply actions
That's why you wouldn't like Polk
not laterally explosive Couldn’t bounce it outside
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:14 PM EST via Android app reply actions
+1
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach and hiring Jack Del Rio as Defensive Coordinator. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Polk is a weapon as a receiver. That’s why he’s different.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Great hands. In open field? you think a CB wants to tackle him? That’s what Benson does NOT offer.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
but
don’t we have Leonard for that?
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
you don’t want a complete RB?
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
how is polk
a complete back if he doesn’t have lateral explosion
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
because he can play all 3 phases of the position. You never have to take him off the field.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Most CBs in the league now are sure tacklers. Its not its the late 90's or early 2000's any more
AMAS
except
antonio crowmartie (spelling)
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
i know
but i laugh every time some runs at him, it’s hilarious
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
big, powerful, straight line speed. No agility or lateral explosion
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
late 1st to mid 2nd
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Weeden is impressive actually
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 4:24 PM EST reply actions
if he wasnt 29, he’d go top 12
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
age is only a number
its more about how many games you played… some people are late bloomers. I think age can be over rate, IMO
AMAS
but it means he’s maxes out physically and maybe mentally.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
might see Pead next
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
As Mayock pointed out
Glenn at LG got pushed backwards
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:37 PM EST via Android app reply actions
have they split his time at G/T so far?
by JoeskiBroski on Jan 28, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
I saw Zebrie Sanders to his left. Unless it was an unbalanced line…
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
yup
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
pi on hayward
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
on i-...
never mind
"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus
neither team
is attempting the run…aaarrrggghhh, don’t they know we need to evaluate the RB’s?
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
there keeping secrets is my opinion, how to keep a player on the down low?
do let him run the ball lol
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Martin actually had a nice cut block
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 4:41 PM EST reply actions
He’s a complete RB also.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
PI should be a 15 yard penalty in the NFL
too many games decided by 35, 40 yard penalties that are judgement calls
and lose all those huge penalties against AJ Green? sometimes those were the best offensive plays of the game
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by Brennen Warner on Jan 28, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
goes both ways though
it sucks when we are on the other end of the call. Just seems ridiculous that a Personal Foul gets you 15 yards but a ticky tack hand check can get you half the football field.
of course
but green has a knack for drawing them
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by Brennen Warner on Jan 28, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
+1
This penalty has defined outcomes of many games…needs to be changed
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by ticalcaldwell on Jan 28, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
what would stop a defender from interfering on any play over 15 yards?
by Jason Blanton on Jan 28, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
you see Martin make that dude miss on the fake?
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:44 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I did
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Marvin Jones is the best WR in this game
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:45 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Where is he slated?
Late 1st to mid 2nd?
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
late 2nd – 3rd
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The Jones kid from Cal has supposedly had a good week.
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 4:45 PM EST reply actions
Glenn at LG
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:48 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I wouldn't mind having a player like Rainey.
The Bengals need game-breaking speed on offense.
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 4:49 PM EST reply actions
Criner looks just like Brandon Lloyd
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:52 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I like Criner
Saw a lot of him out here on the west coast.
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Cincinnati’s best prospect imo
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 4:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
on twitter..
I read someone say he’s best fit for a 5 tech.. do you agree? I think he can play as a traditional 2/3 tech DT in a 4-3.
Not as a starter, I wouldn’t want two small DTs starting
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I haven't finished my rankings at DT yet
but…
1)Brockers
2) Still
3) Cox
4) Worthy
5) Ta’amu
6) Thompson
Those are the guys going top 2 rounds
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think he can play everywhere. That’s where his value rises. 3-4 & 4-3 teams will want him. 5-tech or under tackle in a 4-3.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
#commentsFrom2011
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Pead in
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Coples is ridiculous
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 5:07 PM EST reply actions
There's the good & bad with Pead
He’s quick & laterally explosive, but lacks vision and isn’t strong in tackles. Also, they’ve replaced him with Herron on last two pass plays. Can’t block yet.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:09 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I think it's indecision.
Between the tackles if there isn’t an obvious hole like you said, he sort of sits and thinks for a second instead of just attacking. Gets swallowed up.
Just went back to his run.
He sits in the pocket and the intended hole opens up, he sees zack brown and decides to take it right where a new hole has opened. Zack Brown gets blocked and that original hole stays open while the one he chose gets closed. So maybe it wasn’t indecision, just a bad decision. Not trusting his line I guess.
the first run he had the chance to cut back. There’s different kinds of vision: Vision to the hole & Vision after the LOS.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:12 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
There's Pead's value!!!
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:12 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
vision in open space or after the LOS is where Pead is at his best.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
that is what Benson lacks
Vision…he has the physical side of it…missing vision
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 28, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
lol there is nothing wrong with Peads vision
there was nothing on that run, he had no blocking.
AMAS
those are his strengths but if you watch his film
he would fit really good in Grudens style offense, Pead isn’t going to run inside the tackles like Steven jackson, but he sitill good enough to get a few yards. But if ever gets space, he can take it all the way
AMAS
and thats why I rank him where I do.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i get that and its just a matter of opinion what you want your RB to do
but I really think we are moving away from that one back system where the RB takes the load and runs it up the middle.
AMAS
I'm not sure sure we're moving away from up the middle
seemed like that’s all they had B. Scott do this past season and that isn’t his strength
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
lol im not saying your never going to run up the middle, Im saying, they style is moving away from the middle
meaning that play calling for running plays isn’t primarly going to the middle
AMAS
I'm not seeing it.
We hardly went outside
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
because we had benson
not pead or martin …. I think Marvin will let Gruden do his thing and you can tell by the end of the season we kinda went away from the traditional running game
AMAS
and they played to his strengths most of the time and that was to the out side
i know you have to run it up the middle every now and to keep the defense honest
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No most of Scott's runs were up the middle
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Couldn't understand why they kept running him up the middle
when his strength is to the outside
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
i just know his bigger runs were to the outside and i figured he had mroe carries to the outside
which would make the most sense
AMAS
Yeah, and I'm not trying to knock Pead
but if he isn’t going outside, I don’t think he’ll be any more effective than Benson or Scott up the middle
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
he can
I was fortunate to wych them plat Tenn. he had his best runs up there gut
personally
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by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
and their...dangit
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
i think he will do fine with draws or just a hand off from shot gun up the middle
he will still do his thing, he isn’t going to push the pile is what im saying,
AMAS
no, but
if he gets to the second level, watch out
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
But yeah if the line opens a hole for him
I agree, watch out
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
And unless we really upgrade the line
we’ll need a back who can push the pile.
And I do like Pead, just not as a main or prominent back
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
that's why
we need to get G and CB in 1st and Pead in 2nd, no way he makes it to 3rd now
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
thats why we go for a OG and CB in the first
and Pead in the seconde, he will be long gone in the 3rd if we try to wait
AMAS
lol
great minds and stuff
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
I don't know
there a quite a few more complete backs to think they’ll all be gone in the 2nd to early 3rd
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
ball with space
he would be more than just a returner… just wait till gets some space after a handoff
AMAS
He needs to create space also
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
that first run he was 3 yards gained already.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
why didn’t he return more punts?
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
didn't want to get him hurt
personally
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by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
thats what im thinking
and he got the ball 80 percent of the of the time he was in. he had to stay fresh too
AMAS
I'll take Pead just for a PR man
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
u just got pead on
personally
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by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Pead again with a great punt return
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 5:24 PM EST reply actions
dude is amazing in the open field
lol his has been doing it since high school. Have u checked out that hight video I post at the top of this post?
AMAS
I didn't yet
I will
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
pead, over 100 all purpose yards and counting
personally
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by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Doug Martin and Janoris Jenkins have barely played
Im disappointed
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 5:25 PM EST reply actions
Total Ohio State play..
Adams and Brewster with nice blocking, Herron draws linebacker attention, Posey with the great grab and run.
and Block
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
just now watching game what i miss?
What corners looking good?
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 5:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
pead winning the game for the north
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
told yall all week Jenkins didnt look good at practice
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 5:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
and you're the only one who thought that
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Somebody said he ain’t played hardly. So caoches must thought same thing. Have u seen with ur own eyes or just hear say?
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 5:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Seen with my own eyes
and as I said, You are the ONLY one saying this
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
well we all watching now so we shall see
And my eyes special I see everything sir
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 5:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It wasnt him getting.burned
It was his technique and how every play was suspect pass interference. He too me was top 10 pick, theres zero first rd wr in this game. Jenkins should look dominate against them.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 5:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
are you sure you don't mean dennard?
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
that's what i'm thinking
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
na denard shouldnt even been invited
Jenkins didn’t look.gorrible, but remember his probably highest rated player there. His going up against mid round talent wr. He hasn’t looked as good as Hayward or Bentley.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 5:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hayward best corner I've seen all week
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 5:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
cousins=udfa
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
I like Cousins
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Developmental QB, spot starter. Chad Pennington type
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
don't know a whole about him except the hail mary vs wisconsin
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
me too, jk
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Casey Heyward is having a whale of a game
Aside from a PI, he’s making plays.
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 5:29 PM EST reply actions
and the pi was questionabld at best
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by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
*questionable
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
He’s my #5. I really like his ball skills & toughness
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:31 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
2nd round talent?
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
late 2nd early 3rd
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Solid 2nd round.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Dennard is a 2nd round pick anyway
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 29, 2012 8:19 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Pead for MVP?
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
So far. No doubt.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
most are
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
very ray riceish
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
i wouldn't mind taking Martin in the first and pead in the second. Serously
we would have the complet back field for the WCO sylish offense.
let go of Bernard
AMAS
not me
want G, CB in 1st, Pead in 2nd and someone like Ganaway in 4th or 5th
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
and
don’t get me wrong, if Martin is there in 2nd, snatch him
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
I would take a guard over that second runningback any day
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by Brennen Warner on Jan 28, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
not really
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
#5 OT, #4 OG
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Oh yeah. He’s a late first to mid 2nd round pick.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
see the difference as a runner Martin is?
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Thats why i say jenkins struggled this week
He also is top 5 talent and is not standing out. Pretty soon you’ll hear bout a injury. Watch what I tell yall
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 5:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i still think
your thinking of Alfonzo dennard
personally
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by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Play on totally different teams and one has dreads. Bentley is a sleeper pick though.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
how is martin looking?
Joe who IS this Robinson cat?
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 5:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Robinson is a big slow guy. Not much of anything. Maybe a red zone threat in the NFL at best.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 5:53 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
sounds like alshon jeffery
never been a fan
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by Brennen Warner on Jan 28, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Well I was about to say this
but then the announcer said it… but He is a complete football back
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
we hope
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
im winning so far
From first day of practice I said Pead was best player in senior bowl and that Jenkins didn’t look to good. I also said Adams was best wr
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winning what?
crimeny dude, it’s not a competition
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
true, I havn't but i did see he did say jenkins was over rated
and Ive been one of peads biggest supporters on here and he agreed about some of the things i was saying
AMAS
And Jenkins has been shining in Senior bowl practices
and haven’t noticed him screwing up in this game. Granted I haven’t been able to watch 100% of it, but point stands.
lol and agreeing with you makes him riight?
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
"lol and agreeing with you makes him riight?'
not that he agreed with me but I can confirm what he is saying. And so yes that makes him right because pead has been out performing everyone so far
AMAS
Considering all purpose
yes he has been out performing eveyone
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
I want to see more too
I’ve watched videos and I liked what I’ve seen, but haven’t been impressed with him as a RB today
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t like rotation at all from neither side. It’s stuff to tell who in game
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Martin has looked very good
in all phases
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
Also saw some good runs by Wilson
but I missed a lot of his snaps due to losing the stream
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
I've missed a bunch of special teams
but was talking all phases of a complete back. Rushing, catching, pass blocking, play action…
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
glenn not living up to billing
and i don’t care that the anouncer loves him
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
I did a live mock over the past few days. (3 Rounds)
I drafted for the Bengals and selected DeCastro (1.17) Stephon Gilmore (1.21) – Doug Martin (2.21) – Harrison Smith (3.21)
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:00 PM EST via Android app reply actions
would be a fan of this
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Draft isn't too rich in first round talent.
I think teams will shy away from backs in the first in order to get more of a “sure thing”.. but I could be way off. Draft is very far away.
slim to none
although, Pead would most definately be
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
after they just took vereen and ridley last year?
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by Brennen Warner on Jan 28, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
yes, but RB isnt more a need for the patriots than any other team
just curiosu why you listed the pats
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by Brennen Warner on Jan 28, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Out of curiosity, who are you?
Your sig says “Contributor” but you just joined and I don’t recognize your name.
Been doing this for 2 years now. Joined in 2007 under the name “Firstpick”
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah I’m dumb
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
first article just posted :)
check it out!
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by Brennen Warner on Jan 28, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't doubt you were a contributor
Was just wondering if you were a known user who changed your username.
formerly 'BeWarned', since you asked
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by Brennen Warner on Jan 28, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
drop?
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Good
He ranks between 2-5 on RB rankings. So it depends on how many RBs you think get selected between pick 17 and 53. I don’t think more than 3 will be taken in that time.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
LMAO
now that’s funny and probably true
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
That’s not what need in 3rd then. U get get undrafted free agent to replace Crocker
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Everyone but Nelson
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
ok
If Smith, Brookes and Joe Adams on board still in 3rd, who do we take?
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
those are my only choices? lol
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
"I drafted for the Bengals and selected DeCastro (1.17) Stephon Gilmore (1.21) – Doug Martin (2.21) – Harrison Smith (3.21)"
gm of the year if you could actually get that draft
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
I like it as well but I would go Miller over Gilmore, Hayward over Martin
by EPK1979 on Jan 30, 2012 12:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
which secondary player playing like 1st rd talent
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
most of the 1st round projections
are juniours and not playing in this game
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
This
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
clairebourne, kirkpatrick
only sure fires
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
at DB? Claiborne, Kirkpatrick, Barron, Gilmore
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Exactly what he is rangy & long. So long that it hurts his ability to change directions quickly and get to full speed quickly. 3rd round.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
not as long and Go-go gadget as Sands.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
No. I gave Sands a 7-PFA grade. I think he’s a special teamer with spot starter chances. I didn’t like him.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
and Mays
with an off season, can he be a starter in your opinion
personally
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by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Yes. While he lacks necessary skills to be an All Pro, he can definitely be a starter in the NFL. Problem is, Nelson & Mays would be a bad combination.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
yeah, can see that
both lacking in coverage?
personally
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by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Yup and Nelson is a dummy
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Direct from a scout I talked to: "Nelson was the dumbest interviewee I’ve ever gad st the combine. He literally had no idea about Defensive schemes. He said “I play center field. I don’t know.”"
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
*had at
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
well i don't know anything about that
but from what I have seen from him, by performance, he was the second best defensive player we had last year.
AMAS
I agree. Dumb players can be good. You just have to control his assignments. And they do that. Jacksonville didn’t.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Might be really bad that we are losing Coyle then.
The Dolphins took him for his ability to teach anyone, or so I’ve read. Perhaps Nelson’s improvement is more Coyle teaching than Zimmer/scheme. Hmm..
It could be. I thought of that also.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
bad teacher then
It’s seems only players seeing a shot at playing time is the top draft picks. How many years we then took a corner if safety late and he developed?
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Said that yesterday got blasted. That’s why Barron is #1 priority, he is qb of defense.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what about
Clements and Mays, Clements is a solid tackler with good to great coverage skills if he’s got the play in front of him, the problem with him is his loss of speed, imo
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
rather have Clements & Nelson
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
+1
start a rookie or resign pacman
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by Brennen Warner on Jan 28, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
either hall and jones
or rookie and hall if healthy, jones if not
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Adams is maybe the 2nd fastest player in this draft.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Behind who?
Rainey?
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
yup
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
rankings/grades don’t change that much from this game.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
joe i have off topic?
If Nelson avg more solo tackles in Jax how did we revive his career? He had 5int as a rookie, look at his stats his solo tackles have slacked off.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I dont know how Jax used him in his last couple years there, but Zimmer does a hell of a job keeping him out of trouble. (I really don’t look at stats. I can’t help you with what you’re asking.)
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
LOL Your whole argument about Nelson
was based on stats
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
yes to prove my point to yall
I had to break it down, yesterday u made it like you don’t follow nobody but us. Nelson.been a decent player and to he still needs to be upgraded. Can’t just be an athletic at safety.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You didn't prove anything
EVERYONE else proved the opposite point to you but you wouldn’t listen
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
"yesterday u made it like you don’t follow nobody but us."
and wth does that mean?
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Joe
Creer? Didn’t see him in your rankins above and noticed he was MVP of East – West game. Where does he rank with you?
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:23 PM EST reply actions
I haven’t had the chance to watch him yet. I don’t get too many Louisiana Tech games to watch. I’ll get to him eventually.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm over 130 players now.
Still have 200 to go.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I’d rather you send luck regarding my relationship with my fiance lol
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
No way
He’s a #3 WR in the NFL and return man. 3rd rounder. MAYBE late 2nd.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:31 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
speed kills
Going to be fastest at combine, hands look solid. And don’t forget his money is return man. He could easily give u 6-8 tds next year
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He’s a slot WR only. You do realize that the defenses are in off coverage in this game, right? He wont win in the NFL on the outside.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
he's a wco guy
Give him a slant or screen and let him go. Trust everyone gets bigger when they get to next level, u can teach that. I can’t teach nobody speed!!!
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
is he going to get taller?
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
how tall is welker?
Size mean nothing when u have heart and the will to get it done. We already have our two big guys. Think about what a faster and quicker Hawkins would’ve been?
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That’s why I’m saying we wont take him and why others wont in first two rounds. Because he’s a slot WR.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:49 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
welker would get drafted over 95% of teams traditional #1's
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
to play the slot, no?
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Obviously Pead’s best play of the night.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
This is what I'm talking about...
“Special eyes” mmhmm
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn't be so bad
if he would ever give ground… but he’s right or he’s right…
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Well he has 1st rd talent that’s for sure.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So nobody in this game going in 1st rd? He is one of top #5 players in game
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
when i dont agree with yall do i make it known?
This probably ur first time even watching Adams. Stop handling
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL not first time watching Adams
been watching him for quite some time… always watching college ball. And yes you do make it known when you don’t agree. You call anyone who doesn’t agree with you dumb, stupid or some form of the same.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
thats ur problem
I wasn’t even talking to u!!! What u got multiple names on here?
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ur is singular dude
That comment was for him.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
"when i dont agree with yall do i make it known?"
read it, you typed it
And it’s an open thread
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
yes he had off regular season
But ur money is made in these type games and combine. And do remember his qb from past years was a pretty good one that he didn’t have this year.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hayward is physical player.
He’ll get called for a few.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:35 PM EST via Android app reply actions
oh i agree. He’s my #5 CB
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
If he runs really slow. Otherwise, I think he’s a solid 2nd round pick.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Lot’s of range, quick, but he looks like one of those “I can’t get off a block” kind of guys to me. Idk.
keith rivers?
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
I know
been comparing him to Walter Payton all year, and been taking flack for it, I still stand by it by the way
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
yeah
but Payton came to mind a long time ago and I’ve been comparing him to him since
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
nice run by Pead, protected his body too...smart
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Herron is similar
to Scott
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
it's not a knock
I like Scott
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
And with the 29th pick, the Baltimore Ravens select...
by emeybee on Jan 28, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
it'll be Pead
he’s put them in excellent field position all game
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Damnit
open thread and stream on same PC… missed it
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:56 PM EST reply actions
Really bad
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
with #21 pick
Bengals select Isiah Pead running back from university of Cincinnati. Lol, would he be uc first,1 st rd draft pick?
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He's not getting picked in the first though
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
+1
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
but only becuase Martin
has an NFL ready body now, Pead will be better long term imo
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
u on here just to disagree abd meat handle
I never see u give ur own opinion, what’s up with that?
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is that what he's saying?
Yuck
Couldn’t understand what ever language he’s speaking
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 28, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahahahahahaha
I literally lol’ed
by JCompton41 on Jan 28, 2012 9:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yall say the damn same thing as the announcers. I don’t wanna here that wrong analysis of game.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Do it!!!!
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i wouldnt never pick Adams in 1st rd
That’s why I say stop handling and read. I said he playing his way into 1st rd. I had us selecting him in my mock in 4th.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
upshaw and caples
Only top 10 picks in.game. They on another level, Ingram not far behind though.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 6:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Mike Adams close
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 6:59 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
size?
He proving himself now against the best college players in country. He been hearing this his whole life though that’s why he successful. Let the haters hate
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
‘____’
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He actually might be, but he’s only 225 lbs! Undersized guys don’t get drafted high. Like Pead.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
all that's left
is the MVP presentation
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
That's a wrap
Now to re-watch it a few times.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:05 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Yeah. I would like to.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
If round 1-3 go like your last..
I wouldn’t mind a LB in the 4th. Who might be there? I’d also like a receiver in the fourth though soo..
who won mvp?
Who was last MVP of senior bowl besides a qb not to go in 1st?
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
was jenkins and denard hurt in this game?
Didn’t see neither one of them
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dude that was my last comment, I was being sarcastic to my cj fellas. And dude watch ur my keep the idiots to ur self.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
well call ur momma thatd only person u must been seeing
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
let's end it, guys
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
thank you Joe
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
right what is this a spelling class?
Oregonfan went and got his crew
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yall so much on my spelling and hating
Dude I the one that posted Jenkins got his ankle broke. Lol, so u might just can’t read not my spelling
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Matt Forte
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Tony Hunt and Sinorice Moss won it too.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:12 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Matt forte and was that a mistake or not?
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And Forte was 6’2" 222 lbs
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
as a situational player. I never doubted that. I’d use him just like they did. Return game. Throw him a pass & give him 8-10 carries. I knew he could do that. I never questioned it.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
that sounds about right
i thinkg 10-15 touches on offense and special teams. At this point, but once he starts to develop in the NFL he will be able to take a lot more of the load.
AMAS
well Joe
you said in another post, wait till we see how they play in the game, thoughts?
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
at the bottom of thread
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Pead, MVP
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
officially
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Would never have thought that would be the case.
Good for him. Still don’t think he goes in the first—solid second rounder.
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by Anthony Cosenza on Jan 28, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
agreed, hopefully if Martin is gone we grab him
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
i agree, he would be the best value in the second
but you never know with the combine coming up
AMAS
Pead is moving up in my RB rankings!
He was my #8 RB before this game…
Now he’s my #7 RB. He jumps LaMichael James because of his punt return ability.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:21 PM EST via Android app reply actions
wow, I'd put him 4th
Richardson
Miller
Martin
Pead
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
but honestly, how many Pierce & Polk games have you watched? It’s ok if you haven’t, I’m just trying to gauge where your rankings come from.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
haven't
just watched practices and wasn’t good for Polk, great for Pead, held off judgement and waited till the game like you suggested, my opinion didn’t change
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
But I can’t completely change my rankings off of one All star game. I still think Polk will be a better NFL RB.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:31 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
neither can I
had them ranked the same before the game, was actually hoping Polk would show me more than he did, just for more options
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
My top 6 are ready to be #1 RBs on opening day. Pead is the best of the situational RBs.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Is there a #1 in two back system? I think Ganaway and Pead would compliment each other very well.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sure, I think Bradshaw is the #1 while Jacobs is the #2. Ganaway & Pead would be fun and also risky. Neither can block. You’d need a 3rd down back still.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
insert Leonard
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
so yall would pick guy with size over MVP?
This ain’t NBA, rb don’t have time to develop. How many times taking guy with best measurements killed us? U gotta try that in later rounds. We need sure fire productive players in 1st rd. Any time u win an all star game MVP, and player of year in ur conference that’s not luck. Dude has major skills. Was best.offensive player on both teams
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Here’s the thing, my top 6 ALL HAVE SKILLS. It’s not just Pead. So if two guys have similar grades, you go with the guy with the typical NFL body.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
+1
but I think long term he’s better than all RB’s in this class
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
and that’s fine, but the draft doesn’t always work that way.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
that's why I agreed with you Bro.
I would not be upset with Richardson, Miller, Martin
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Oh I knew you agreed
I just said it because other people are reading also. I wanted to explain.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
my reasoning
is only because he has the potential of getting hurt easier and we need to count on our #1 back
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
I know man
but he hasn’t played linebackers who run 4.5 and weigh 250lbs either
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
and they haven't played any one at 200 pds that can cut and move like that
but I agree he can gain a few pounds, but its not going to be a problem
AMAS
Why hasn’t Michael Johnson gained weight? It’s not always a given. Developmental players don’t go until round 3 unless they’re first round picks or QBs.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
but Johnson isn't as talented as Pead
but has the skills all ready to be productive, but i don’t its out of the question for him to gain those few extra pounds to protect him self
AMAS
what?
Johnson is/was dripping with raw talent. He’s as talented a DE as their is in the NFL.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 28, 2012 7:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
to be fair to MJ
they tried him at LB, so I’m sure they told him not to lose weight, then put him back at DE, he will put it on, might see it next year hopefully
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
gain instead of lose*
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
just to clarify
he played great, but he went down awful easy when someone did get to him, he could be like Barry Sanders, where you lose 2-5 yards alot but break some big gains too
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
gotta know how yo usr him.
Rice had same problem with Patriots. Don’t send him up middle
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
but in the NFL
they’ll catch on to that and be waiting
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
supposed to be reply to pray^
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
so yall would pick guy with size over MVP?
that one, lol
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
i like polk also joe
Gonna be hard to read him though. Just brings it on game day
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 7:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Pead had a nice game but
No way he goes in the first. Maybe if he lights up the 40 at the combine. I still see him as a 2nd to 3rd rounder. I think he will have a productive career as a change of pace back and return man. He doesn’t have the frame to be a feature back in this league but thats ok, a team will still get a pretty good player. As far as some people on CJ that compared him to Payton, they must have never seen him play.
It was me, I'll stand by what I say
I’m 37 and have seen Payton, Faulk and Sanders, and in my opinion Pead compares to all 3 of them, I could be wrong, but I’d be willing to bet I’m not
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
i agree with you a 100% i see the same thing you see
when i watch pead play. Every step he takes has a purpose. I hope the bengals don’t miss this guy in the second round.
AMAS
if he compare to sanders, peyton and smith
Why wait till 2nd? Them hall of famers
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 9:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
cause it's his
potential, there’s also a reason why I’m not an NFL scout, lol, not like the Bengals would hire me anyway :(
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
pead is special
Bengals going to take him, we just go trade down to grab him
by pray4gm11 on Jan 28, 2012 9:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wasn't trying to disrespect
Payton was one of the greatest I have seen as was Sanders and as much as I think Pead will have a good career, Pead will never come close to those players. I respect your bold prediction and being a UC fan I hope your right but I just don’t see him being that big of a impact at the next level.
lol
see, I’m not a U.C. fan, I graduated from Annapolis (U’S’ Naval Academy) I hinestly don’t care about U.C. but I am an Isaiah Pead fan
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
U.S.
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
and honestly*****
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
Linebacker from Utah State
I think he has had a solid week.
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