Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Following UFC 146 Loss, Jason 'Mayhem' Miller 'Done' in UFC

Senior Bowl 2012: How Much Can A Prospect Improve Their Stock?

Every year during draft season you will hear about players rising and falling down draft boards. Analysts will point to the Senior Bowl and Scouting Combine for reasons why a prospect's stock is on the move. The question is - How much can a prospect improve their draft stock? The answers depend on the player and the questions surrounding each prospect's game, but it may not be as much as you'd think. After Cincyjungle's own Jack Cassidy broke down the performances from the Senior Bowl that may have caught the Bengals eye, I'll take each player's situation under the microscope and see just how much they improved their draft stock.

Quinton Coples

Coples was regarded as a top 10 talent before his senior season. If you watched him in 2011, you, like me, would put a 2nd round grade on him. Coming into the Senior Bowl week, Coples had to show he still had that top 10 talent along with the will want determination to reach such potential. Throughout the week, Quinton Coples dominated anybody who lined up a crossed from him. He was unblock-able. During Saturday's game, Coples didn't disappoint. He was again dominate and flashed on more than a few plays.

Stock: UP

So is Quinton Coples that top 10 talent everyone thought he was? Or does this week's performance actually raise more questions? If he could just turn it on now, why didn't he do it last year? Why does he run hot and cold? Coples definitely improved his draft stock, but I'm not ready to say he's completely repaired the damage he did in 2011 and is a lock to get drafted in the first 10 picks.

Star-divide

Janoris Jenkins

Jenkins is a lot like Quinton Coples. He was regarded as a top 15 pick after 2010 but Jenkins continued to make bad decisions and was kicked off of Florida's program. In Division II, Jenkins was average and didn't dominate like he should have. Coming into the Senior Bowl week, Jenkins had to show everyone he could regain his competitive edge vs. FBS players like he did while at Florida. He hurt himself on the first day by measuring-in less than 5'10" tall, but then showed during practice that he still has the natural man-coverage skills that will make him a coveted prospect. During the game, Jenkins was solid in coverage but bit on a double move and missed a tackle in the open field. Both mistakes are the types of plays you're going to get with Jenkins.

Stock: Same

I'm not going to say Jenkins improved his stock because most scouts expected him to display his coverage skills the way he did, What scouts and NFL teams are looking at is Janoris Jenkins' background. He is saying all the right things now, but we've seen how that goes. Even with his physical talents, some teams won't even have him on their draft board. As of today I still think Jenkins is selected between picks 20-40.

Isaiah Pead

Isaiah Pead had a great game as a punt return man and a great week of practice to backup his MVP performance on Saturday. He was considered a mid-round pick (3-5) by most before this week. The questions with Pead most scouts have are - Can he run between the tackles? - Can Pead carry the load or is he a backup? - Can he pass protect? - Everybody knows that Pead is an electrifying runner in open space and he can make guys miss with his elusiveness. That was never questioned an Isaiah didn't disappoint this week.

Stock: Slightly Up

I say Pead's stock is only slightly up because he didn't answer any of the questions most scouts had about him. He showed up this week at 193 lbs; obviously that isn't ideal weight for an every down RB at. In the game, Pead struggled between the tackles to consistently gain yardage and find the creases in the defense. On most passing plays, Pead was replaced by Dan Herron as a pass protector. That's not good for Pead's stock. Where Isaiah Pead really improved his stock was as a punt returner. He looked explosive and decisive. Pead looked like he could be one of the best in the NFL and is ready to contribute in that phase of the game from day one. Pead, in my rankings, went from the 8th best RB to the 7th best RB because of his return ability. I wouldn't draft him until round three.

Cordy Glenn

Glenn has been talked about a lot around here as that road-grading guard the Bengals need. If you just look at Cordy Glenn, he's exactly how you would draw up a mauling guard. He played tackle at Georgia this past year and I'm sure he's making every effort to show teams he can play OT in the NFL. Here's where Glenn's stock is tricky, I think he showed he can be an effective RT in the NFL and I think that's how he'll be drafted in April. For the Bengals, and other teams looking for guard help, I don't think Cordy Glenn helped himself. Glenn didn't display a killer instinct that you want from a guard of his stature. He wasn't able to get to the 2nd level and still didn't play with great leverage inside. He looked much better and more comfortable playing OT.

Stock: Same

Glenn, for the Bengals, is a guard. You only draft elite guards in round one and Glenn isn't elite. I'll keep my 2nd round grade on him and I believe most teams that view him as a guard will also. The teams that view Glenn as an OT, they'll move him up their boards and he could go between picks 15-32.

Alfonzo Dennard

Dennard didn't play in the game but he did create a buzz during the week's practices but it wasn't for his coverage ability. Dennard is a press-man corner who is tough and physical. I've always had a 2nd round grade on him. I wanted him to show me that he could cover in off-man and on the deep balls. He also needed to display better ball skills than he did at Nebraska where he only recorded three interceptions in his career. Dennard couldn't answer any of those questions and actually showed those flaws are even bigger concerns. He needs to win at the line with a jam if he expects to stay with the WR. If beaten, Dennard has trouble locating the football and tracking it. He looked lost at times in the plays I've seen and the reports I've read.

Stock: Down

Dennard has been mocked as a first round pick since last year when he looked better than his teammate Prince Amukamara at Nebraska. Dennard hasn't progressed from that point and those lefty projections didn't hold up. I think he's a solid 2nd round pick and the Scouting Combine will be huge for him. If he runs slowly, he will be tumbling down draft boards.

Other Notable Stock Changes:

Phillip Blake - G/C - Baylor: Up

Harrison Smith - S - Notre Dame: Up

Dan Herron - RB - Ohio State - Up

Kellen Moore - QB - Boise State - Down

Doug Martin - RB - Boise State - UP

Jeff Fuller - WR - Texas A&M - Down

Marvin Jones - WR - Cal - Up

Dwight Bentley - CB - La-Lafayette - Up

Nick Foles - QB - Arizona - Down

Comment 33 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

I disagree with your assessment of Glenn.

I think he looked excellent. But I guess that’s why teams have different opinions.

by jsl413 on Jan 29, 2012 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

glenn

been seeing conflicting reports from scouts and coaches on him. some still view him as a strong prospect for the 1st, others see him as iffy and a 2nd rounder at most.

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 29, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Glenn has been the hardest prospect for me to grade this year.

CincyJungle.com Contributor for the NFL Draft

Follow me on Twitter @JoeGoodberry for Bengals & NFL Draft talk

by Joe Goodberry on Jan 29, 2012 4:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I'm not a fan of Glenn at all

I wouldn’t want him with our 2nd round pick

by messjunk on Jan 29, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Dan Herron

you thinking he’s 4th-5th round material now?

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 29, 2012 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

Possibly. I thought 5th – 6th before. He may have solidified a 5th for most teams as a backup & 3rd down back.

CincyJungle.com Contributor for the NFL Draft

Follow me on Twitter @JoeGoodberry for Bengals & NFL Draft talk

by Joe Goodberry on Jan 29, 2012 4:53 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Arms need to get stronger. Williams is a straight mauler with a fighter’s attitude. Glenn doesn’t have that killer instinct.

CincyJungle.com Contributor for the NFL Draft

Follow me on Twitter @JoeGoodberry for Bengals & NFL Draft talk

by Joe Goodberry on Jan 29, 2012 5:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

True. That pic of Bobbie shows how strong he really is.

Glen would need a couple years in the weight room to even come close to that.

by Animal_Like_Football on Jan 29, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

That picture of Glenn shows his technique flaws.
1) Bending at the waist. Not the knees.
2) Head is over his toe
3) Arms are down
I wish I could see his feet. I bet he still blocked his man on that play lol.

CincyJungle.com Contributor for the NFL Draft

Follow me on Twitter @JoeGoodberry for Bengals & NFL Draft talk

by Joe Goodberry on Jan 29, 2012 5:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Sure, but there’s plenty of Guards in rounds 2-3. Bengals like OTs that can play Guard anyway.

CincyJungle.com Contributor for the NFL Draft

Follow me on Twitter @JoeGoodberry for Bengals & NFL Draft talk

by Joe Goodberry on Jan 29, 2012 5:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Just asking

Because there are a few really good options Jeff Allen Markus Zusevics Levt Adcock and a kid who’ll be undrafted Charles Burton Montana played LT all year

by messjunk on Jan 29, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Those are technique flaws, but Big Bobbie is displaying the exact same flaws, and he's clearly being engaged by a defender

That picture of Glenn is not quite clear (heck, it could have been taken during warmups) . I agree that the similarities in body-type between Big Bobbie and Glenn are interesting. The Bengals seem to really like their RGs to be mountain men.

Haven’t watched the senior bowl tape yet, but I’m interested to see how Glenn does at the combine.

by The_Black_Stripes on Jan 29, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Glenn but

It seems like for a guy of his size, he gets knocked back a lot. Also, I wonder if there has been any questions about his work ethic. It would seem that a player that had as much playing experience as he did at Georgia, would be much better on the technical side of things than he is.

by EPK1979 on Jan 29, 2012 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

Glenn does get knocked back at times, but he generally has a very good anchor which enables him to swallow bull rushers with his long arms

We’ll see how he does at the combine in the bench press to see how truly strong he is. Regardless of whatever he puts up, he plays strong on tape, especially when drive blocking in the run game (his 2010 tape at UGA shows this with some massive pancake blocks in the SEC). He also possesses massively long arms (measured at 35 1/8 inches at senior bowl, second only to Osemele from ISU who I also like as a 2nd round prospect).

We’ll see about Glenn. I really like him as a prospect for the Bengals (and as a pro prospect at OG in general). He just possesses that “prototypical NFL OG body-type” that NFL GMs love and covet, as well as the versatility (and ability) to more than capably play multiple positions along the offensive line. He’s also shown enough on tape, while playing in the best conference in college football (the NFL’s Triple A), to suggest that whatever flaws in technique he does have can be corrected by a competent NFL coaching staff. As Joe said above, he just gets it done.

I like Rob Rang’s scouting report on Glenn:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1632069

Also, here are Wes Bunting and other scouts touting Glenn’s ability to anchor:

http://atlanta.sbnation.com/georgia-bulldogs/2012/1/24/2730989/senior-bowl-cordy-glenn-nfl-draft-georgia-bulldogs-scouting-nfl

by The_Black_Stripes on Jan 29, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike? I am. Especially as a pass blocker. He’s great right now. As a run blocker, he’s below average.

CincyJungle.com Contributor for the NFL Draft

Follow me on Twitter @JoeGoodberry for Bengals & NFL Draft talk

by Joe Goodberry on Jan 29, 2012 5:57 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Joe? He’s still exactly what I expected. You can like somebody & be impressed without thinking they’re a first or 2nd round pick.

CincyJungle.com Contributor for the NFL Draft

Follow me on Twitter @JoeGoodberry for Bengals & NFL Draft talk

by Joe Goodberry on Jan 29, 2012 11:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Probably 3rd. He’s an elite return man.

CincyJungle.com Contributor for the NFL Draft

Follow me on Twitter @JoeGoodberry for Bengals & NFL Draft talk

by Joe Goodberry on Jan 30, 2012 6:34 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

One thing to realize about coples

Is that the players he was lined up against in the senior bowl were guards playing tackle. Not to say he wasnt impressive, just that it’s something to consider with the less than stellar year he had.

by brandone on Jan 29, 2012 6:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Brandon Boykin Injures Leg In Senior Bowl

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 29, 2012 11:30 PM EST reply actions  

Thought I saw that as well

That’s a shame for him. still would not mind taking a flyer if he drops to the 4th or later, especially with an additional 5th round pick

by biggie22 on Jan 29, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

hopefully be drops to 5

He’d be a steal their.

by JCompton41 on Jan 30, 2012 12:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Tendency's

The Bengals like those versatile lineman and with their attraction to Georgia and SEC players in general. They might bite on Glenn at 21. They also seem to be confident in developing flaws in lineman to. Of course you don’t want many flaws in a 1st round pick. Maybe the line waits a round or two while they shore up the D or RB. I think they let the draft come to them

Is it possible they look to slide Smith inside and take Adams. Might need to sign Smith before you spring that one on him. Adams seems to be maturing and that was the main issue with him I think. With that size and agility you would think a run blocking weakness is fixable. I read he had a good SB giving up a coverage sack late while taking on some big speed rushers.

Sticking with The OSU players… Posey might be a steal if he falls far enough and someone can teach him to use his hands. I think a few teams may jump at him earlier than expected. Buckeye receivers with less talent have stuck in the NFL.

Even Mike Brewster could be a bargain late. He’s been rumored to have had some long term issues tipping the snap count. Florida players said he they were teeing off on his head bobbing in this past bowl game. Some of that may have been exaggerated a little but it was brought to light as far back as. That strange loss at Purdue in 08 when they sacked the premadonna 5 times . It seems like Tressel and even Jim Bollman would have been all over that.

Brewster was a four year starter and even at 6’4’ 319 he seems small compared to Bengals lineman. He’s one of the heavier lineman in this years drafts it looks like. If he can develop the guard play and be center depth the pedigree’s there.. He’ll play somewhere

by olbuzz on Jan 30, 2012 6:51 AM EST reply actions  

If decastro isn't there at 17, im convinced we will either get a CB and SS or a CB/SS and LB

we are going to take the best player available and i think a few stud LBs will drop in our laps for us to take. IMO

AMAS

by AMAS85 on Jan 30, 2012 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

the whole lb debate that popped up other day got me thinking

D’Qwell Jackson is a free agent, if we’re really convinced ray isn’t working out for us, rather than drafting his replacement, why not sign jackson and save the draft pick.

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 30, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Could draft a SLB also in round 1.

CincyJungle.com Contributor for the NFL Draft

Follow me on Twitter @JoeGoodberry for Bengals & NFL Draft talk

by Joe Goodberry on Jan 30, 2012 1:44 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about the Cincinnati Bengals.

Editor-In Chief

Cj_small Josh Kirkendall

Editor/Managing Editor

Rudiblanket_small Anthony Cosenza

5255_133614603784_666578784_2414703_1976100_n_small Jason Garrison

Authors

Photo_3_small BeerRun

010511170110_small Joe Goodberry

40297_422933299865_509514865_4658259_6466915_n_small Ryan Harper

Small Brennen Warner

Sb_nation_small Jack Cassidy

580551_10150822857707018_613867017_11694254_1239726425_n_small Nick_Crago

Img_0783_small Mike Fightmaster

Moderators

Nfl palewook

680764146_0eac16fabd_small 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME

Tawky_tawny_small UpStateMike

Joeb698_86e260_small joeb69

Bengals_stamp_by_jamaal10_small Doc Scratch