New Mock Draft
I signed up to do a mock draft on draftcountdown.com. The draft was a fan from all 32 teams made the selections based off what they thought their team would do or what they want would want the team to do in the draft. I question some people and if they really keep up with college football and the draft but this is how the draft broke down for the Bengals
17.) David DeCastro-G- Have been seeing him slip lately in mocks and I hope he does but he is the best guard to come out in quite some time and I just don't see it.
21.) Trent Richardson- RB-He was there at 17 and chose to pass and it was a wise move. If he would have been picked I would have went with Lamar Miller. What scares me about Richardson isn't his talent it's his physical running style that could mean a shorter shelf life for him in the NFL but he should fit in nicely with the AFCN physical play.
53.) Alshon Jeffery- WR-I know we have issues on the defensive side of the ball that needs to be addressed urgently but Jeffery was once thought of as a top ten pick. Yes his production slipped last year but a lot of that had to do with a new QB coming in after Garcia got kicked off the team. The Bengals struggled in the red zone and Jeffery is as good as it gets in the red zone. Could be very daunting for opposing CB's to see Green on one side and Jeffery on the other. Has some work ethic issues but at this point he was too hard to pass up.
84.) Casey Hayward-CB- Had a solid week at the Senior Bowl and with all the emphasis on offense the first 3 picks, I was fortunate that a player of his caliber slipped to this pick. Probably won't start right away but he should be an immediate contributor.
116.) Trumaine Johnson-CB- Could be a potential diamond in the rough. Small school find may not contribute right away but could develop into an above average player. May also be moved to safety at some point.
148.) Winston Guy Jr-SS- Good tackler that played some corner in his career. Should be a special team standout and fight for time in certain packages. Has returned kicks also.
159.) Akiem Hicks-DT- This former LSU recruit has great size and burst with long arms. Is a bit raw but has a very high ceiling and could turn into a impact player after a few seasons to work on technique.
7th.) Deangelo Peterson-TE- Not a great blocker but he could develop into a Aaron Hernandez type of tight end. Needs to improve his hands but with development could be a good find in the last round. Plays special teams which is a plus for latter round guys to make the team and contribute right away.
The 6th pick was missing on there because of the Taylor Mays trade.
Not really how I envisioned the draft to go. Didn't really want to go top heavy with offense but got lucky as some solid players slid to me in the mid-rounds and got 2 potential sleepers with Hicks and Peterson late. I don't really think this is how the real draft will go but it was fun to participate with fans from other teams and get a gauge of what certain teams fans bases wanted from the draft.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Cincy Jungle's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Cincy Jungle's writers or editors.
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I don't think.....
We can use our first three picks, and not select a single CB or Safety. I just don’t.
While I think that as well
I also don’t think you can pass on those 3 guys at those spots. I think that we could resign our guys and play next year then draft a 1st round corner in 13.
It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain
That was kind of my thinking
Or maybe get one of the stud safeties coming out. With Richardson,DeCastro and Jeffry’s the offense could be potent for years.
exactly how it works. Can’t draft need. Must draft value.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 30, 2012 1:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Agreed, from most of what I read people draft a position regardless of the player.
This leads to reaching and picking up mediocre to slightly above average players a round or two before you could have had the same player. I want impact players, if that is at DE/DT/WR, etc. than I’m cool with that. I think this seasons playoff teams show, you need playmakers. Otherwise you just draft an average team to get you to the playoffs, but get knocked out in the first round.
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by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 30, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
You did great, EPK
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 30, 2012 1:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Can't the same be said.....
for drafting CB/S help this year, and finding a guard/RB/WR in FA, or next year’s draft?
We’ve built up a very solid defense, and that is our identity. Why let that start deteriorating when there are likely some great options available in the draft.
Besides, there is no way both Decastro and Richardson are there at 17. If they both were, I wouldn’t hate that part. But after that, you have to go defense in round 2.
You have to go with the best player available
especially if that player is an immediate upgrade to what you have. While we need defensive backfield help, the defense can also be helped by better time of possesion and more scoring.
It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain
Fair enough.....
But I don’t think BPA means going straight down you list, and not deviating.
If our pick is up, and the 15th and 17th players on our scouting list are available, and the 17th rated one fits a bigger need, or the “scheme” better, I have no problem drafting the lower rated player. That doesn’t mean I want to skip down 15 players to draft need, but there is likely little to no difference between a couple of spots.
I wouldnt say horrible
but not too bad, i like all the players u selected the problem is that our NEEDS werent address and DB need is more than WR Need at this moment
But haveing two AJ's would prove potent!!
AD to AJ = TD!!
by Toasted_Orange_Monster on Jan 30, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but when you get DeCastro, Richardson, and Jeffrey with your first 3 picks
you can’t say they didn’t do it right. Those are great values at those spots, and BPA is the right way to do it. When Jeffrey is still on the board at #53 you take him unless there is a better talent available. That’s amazing value at 53. You don’t say well yeah this amazing player is still on the board way after he should be but we really need a CB so let’s take one that is close to this value. Go for the value! Plus he gets CB and safety in r3, 4, 5.
Not gonna be guaranteed day 1 starters even in the first round. I mean look at Patrick Peterson this year. Amazing talent at CB position, top 5 talent in the draft. Didn’t play extraordinarily well other than in the return game. And he was top 5 talent. So that means if we take a CB with our first pick he is gonna probably be the 3rd or 4th best CB in the draft. Value is the way to go imo.
i agree up to a certain point only
Look at Zimmer, he has been stuck with mostly Average players and he made them better, and if we can get him some real talent, our defense can put fear into opposing Offenses and can create havoc
I agree
It was just how the draft was going and after Richardson and DeCastro, I wanted to go corner. Lucky for me I was able to get Hayward in the 3rd who a lot of people are giving a 2nd round grade and Johnson who a lot of people are high on. Jeffry just intrigued me too much too pass on. I’m sure he will get drafted way before that pick anyways.
I think the needs were addressed
Got 2 corners, one that may play safety. Got a SS,DT,G and RB. Those are most of our needs. The problem is no way Hayward makes it to the 3rd and Hicks to the 5th,imo. I think the problem is I would have wanted to address corner with a more of an impact player but it’s hard to do come 3rd round. It was fun and I have another one later on and plan to approach it completely different. Maybe more emphasis on defense.
Curious as to what CBs were available at #53
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 30, 2012 12:23 PM EST reply actions
Hosely,Fleming and Boykins I know for sure. I know Gilmore,Dennard,Minnifield,Jenkins and Norman were gone.
Can you post the entire mock?
That would be helpful just to see who was available to whom.
by Animal_Like_Football on Jan 30, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I would in no way want to draft a WR
except if it was Alshon Jeffery with the 53rd pick. That would be a stunning pairing next to AJ Green. Well done sir!
I highly doubt that richardson falls to 21st. He is a top five talent. But that would be amazing.
i think he has a very very slim chance of falling to 17 but he isn’t falling to 21st, someone will trade up and go after him if we don’t with the 17th
AMAS
I completely agree
I passed because I would have been happy to get Miller or a corner with the pick at 21.
we will definately get an upgrade at RB whether its Richardson, Pead, Martin, Miller
i think between the first and seconde round we should at least get one of those players.
I don’t think WR is that big of need right now, with emphasis on getting Gresham more targets and shipley coming back from an injury. I would rather spend that 2nd round pick either on a DT or LB or SS if we can’t get the RB we want. Plus, there is a real good chance we re-sign simpson for cheap or another FA veteran at WR.
AMAS
Nice !
I would certainly welcome this mock. Can’t argue with the 1st round picks and agree if a talent like Jeffrey slipped to the 2nd round, then taking the WR over a DB could be a great move adding the perfect compliment to AJ.
I know corner is a pressing need
but I thought a player like Jeffrey was hands down better than the corners that were available.
This mock sucks, it is so unrealistic. stop fantazing crazy bulldroppings
Andy Dalton has a better chance of not becoming the best quarterback ever than this happening
17) Alshon Jeffreis WR
21)Janoris Jenkins CB
53)Kevin zeigler G
84) Isaiah Pead RB
dont need safety, were getting laron landry
I am completely against a WR in the first
We need G/CB/RB unless it comes down to that WR is a better pick than G/CB/WR left at our picks
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 30, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
is this guy serious? I really can’t tell.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 30, 2012 1:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It's not he just chose those people to fall to our picks
He joined a mock with many people, and those picks fell to those spots. Will it happen? Who knows? But you make i sound like he just picked those names hoping they fall to us. Lighten up
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 30, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
+1
It’s not his fault the other people didn’t choose DeCastro or Richardson for there teams!!
I think it was a great MOCK!!! And would be very happy if it fell this way
Exactly.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 30, 2012 1:39 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
lol well then i don't see how richardson falls that far
if he does, it is destiny that the bengals build a dynasty lol
AMAS
Just like people/fans on DraftCountdown didn’t pick him, teams couldn’t pick him. That’s what these live mocks are mentioned to demonstrate.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 30, 2012 1:53 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
lol idk about that either. I would imagine there aren't that many veteran GMs or HCs that would pass on a top five talent
between picks 1-20. But I hope they do! Just not realistic that he gets past Seahawks, especially if they don’t resign Lynch.
AMAS
Why wouldn't they resign Lynch though, he's been a monster for them
and it’s funny how the team changes “not realistic he gets past Seahawks, cowboys, browns, etc etc”
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 30, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
its the theme every FA agent goes for: Money and Glory
Why stay with the seahawks if he can go somewhere like the patriots? or somewhere like redskins, where they like to over pay their FAs?
AMAS
Well if the Seahawks pay him the money...
which since they aren’t the Bengals they probably will
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 30, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
thats very true, but why pay him money when you know you can get richardson for much cheaper to the same effect?
AMAS
We can go back and forth with this saying why they would draft and why they wouldn't
If you’ve got 2 players on the board at the same value, and one is a need over the other, you take the need.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 30, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
d-line or linebacker? also maybe QB
Paul Brown Stadium, where everyone's hopes go to die.
as much as i would hate not getting a corner before the 3rd
Really couldn’t complain if these players were there. Can’t pass up players like that just because they’re not a dire need. And with hayword in the third and Trumane Johnson in the 4th still a chance to get a good player maybe starter.
by JCompton41 on Jan 30, 2012 1:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Right
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 30, 2012 1:53 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I liked doing it
Because most fans got a better feeling for their teams than I do. It kind of shows what each fan base is wanting out of the draft. I approached it as taking the BPA than going into it trying to address needs. I think Jeffrys will be long gone by the 2nd round. In this draft he wasn’t so I grabbed him. Drafts are suppose to be about getting values not filling holes. Thats what I tried to do.
agree. I was in the DC mock last year. It was a blast.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 30, 2012 4:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
We should set one up this year, it seems like there is a lot more interest in this year's draft
AMAS
I already do a bunch of live mocks with draftniks, but if you set one up, i’ll join for fun.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 30, 2012 5:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I had set one up a few weeks ago on here
and it went pretty smoothly. Basically its a group thing, where we list the picks out in the first round. Then anyone who wants to suggest some one can, but we all "rec " the one we feel that makes the most sense.
If we get enough people and a set time and date. It should be even better with more perspectives from everybody.
Here is the link of the post im talking about.
href=“http://www.cincyjungle.com/2012/1/6/2687102/bored-at-work-well-lets-mock-it-up-picks-1-20”
AMAS
here is the real link lol
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2012/1/6/2687102/bored-at-work-well-lets-mock-it-up-picks-1-20
I can’t seem to figure out how to link this, so you will have to copy and paste if you want to check it out
AMAS
Was a lot of fun to participate in also.
Should do another one after super bowl just to have some more fun and do it again with more people involved.
ill join if it gets set up too.
by JCompton41 on Jan 30, 2012 5:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
send me a link Ill get in
AD to AJ = TD!!
by Toasted_Orange_Monster on Jan 30, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Hard to argue with DeCastro and Richardson.
And let’s face it, there’s no way that Jeffery is there when we walk up to the podium in the second, but if he is then the front office would do EXACTLY what you did: draft him and not think twice about it.
True But
Dont Underestimate what showing up at the combine overweight and running a slow 40 could do to his stock, not saying he will do either but if something like that does happen then all bets are off on where he ends up going.
by BobJones4980 on Jan 30, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Thats what I thought
But t I was completely skipped. I was wondering why but never went back to look and see if it was this year or next.
Watching this debate between scouts on Twitter
concerning Alshon Jeffery. Some points that are being brought up are his weight with this picture:

And also his inability to separate, not great hands (drops), doesn’t use his body (not physical).
I haven’t watched Jeffery so I don’t know about all this.
Joe, what is your take on Jeffery?
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 31, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions
Oh and it was also mentioned that
Dennard dominated him in the Senior bowl, and Dennard’s performance in the Senior Bowl wasn’t good…
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 31, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
It's all true and legit concerns
But, he has the rare ability to play – above the CB – he’s like an out-of-shape Brandon Marshall.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 31, 2012 4:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Thanks
Didn’t know what to think. Had heard so much good about him, then to see this debate between scouts I was curious.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 31, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
The debate is usually where do you value Separation Skills vs Ball Skills. Also, some say “Fat & out of shape” others call it “untapped potential — imagine when he’s in shape”. So it depends on if they like the player or not.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 31, 2012 5:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It was Capital One Bowl Nebraska vs. South Carolina
Jeffery dominated Dennard, so much so that Dennard lost his temper hit Jeffrey with a cheap shot, Jeffery retaliated and both were ejected from the game.
Hmm I don't know
Didn’t watch it, but one particular scout says Dennard dominated him…
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 31, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Jeffrey had a HUGE game but if I remember correctly, not every play was on Dennard.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 31, 2012 4:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don’t think the td was on Dennard. Dennard’s bread and butter is being physical and when they were matched up, things got chippy. Jeffrey was being physical back with him and I don’t think Dennard liked it. It was a bowl game and for both of them to be ejected are bad marks for both of them. I understand that they both are competitors but you can’t let it get under your skin to the point it gets you kicked out of the game.
and thats what I meant more or less by the domination thing
Not saying either one dominated production wise against one another but Jeffrey was able to get under his skin,imo.
Not really one to be one way or the other with him.......
but stats were 4 catches for 148 and a TD. I wouldn’t say Jeffery got dominated by anyone, granted though, one of his catches was for 78 yards on a Hail Mary.
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by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 31, 2012 4:06 PM EST reply actions
the 78 yarders and the hail mary TD were different plays
but I have a hard time agreeing with anyone who says ‘Jeffery dominated Dennard’ in that game.
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by Brennen Warner on Jan 31, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Well let me rephrase that then
He got to him and Dennard didn’t like it and lost his cool.
mock draft
How did you enter this mock draft on draftcountdown.com?
Players won't fall to us
DeCastro might not fall to us….Richardson may go before DeCastro…..Alshon probably won’t fall that far but if he does, sure……..& Winston Guy won’t fall to the 5th round, he’s projected 3rd.

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