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Marvin Lewis Wastes Cincinnati's Challenges In The Second Quarter

HOUSTON, TX - JANUARY 07:  Head coach Marvin Lewis of the Cincinnati Bengals throws the football before the Begals take on the Houston Texans during their 2012 AFC Wild Card Playoff game at Reliant Stadium on January 7, 2012 in Houston, Texas.  (Photo by Jamie Squire/Getty Images)

Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis quickly depleted both challenges during the second quarter on Saturday against the Houston Texans. With 10:44 remaining in the second quarter, Bengals running back Cedric Benson fell inches short of the first down marker on second and two. Lewis challenged it, believing that Benson had picked up the first down at Cincinnati's 30-yard line -- and momentarily it appeared so live.

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However Benson's elbow touched the ground inches short of the first down marker. On the next play Dalton takes the handoff and registers the first down on a quarterback sneak.

With one challenge down, no matter what happens throughout the rest of the game, his next challenge will be the final one. Does Lewis hold onto his final challenge for one of the more critical moments of the game?

No.

He uses it when Houston had possession on third and four from their own 37-yard line with 5:09 remaining. Texans tight end Owen Daniels hauled in an eight-yard reception with Thomas Howard successfully ripping out the football. After Lewis challenged the play, Daniels obviously had control of the football, down by contact and the Bengals have no challenges remaining in the game.

Coming into the game, Lewis had only challenged three plays during the entire 2011 regular season, overturning two.

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And Andy Dalton shows

why we should beg the Colts to trade 3 1st rounders for the 1st overall pick (both of this years and one of next years)

by aguy on Jan 7, 2012 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

No

AJ Green = Optimus Prime

by Helmsy on Jan 7, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

If you want something to blame

How about missed tackles, subpar secondary, crappy guards on the O-line, crappy RB. This game was NOT Daltons fault in the least. He is a rookie and took the Bengals to the playoffs with virtually no running game and one consistent WR. Dalton is our QB for the future and I’m glad. He has tremendous upside. Marvin is not to blame either. This team came ready to play. Look at the first half we outplayed them. They had a few breaks go their way and that is all it takes sometimes. He threw the challenges early yeas but that didn’t cost us the in any way.

AJ Green = Optimus Prime

by Helmsy on Jan 7, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

forget it,

this guy hates Dalton with a passion!

by pemci on Jan 7, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously?

I hope you defended Palmer last year. Cause our running game was better this year than last year. And our line. The secondary was better last year. If it weren’t for Hall’s injury it would have been more solid. It was deeper this year (considering that Pacman came back midseason after being gone the latter half of last season), but Nelson played poorly most of the season and Crocker is inconsistent. Marvin was an idiot. Those were irrelevant plays that he challenged. I wish we would can him already. Our team didn’t beat a single quality team this season (Titans don’t count as quality)

by aguy on Jan 7, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

GO follow another team then...

no one is stopping you from following another team!

by pemci on Jan 7, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

you realize that we beat more quality teams than the patriots right?

We beat 1….they beat zero

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by TruWhoDey on Jan 7, 2012 10:37 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

No we didn't. Because Titans aren't quality

And when the Pats are in the super bowl, I think people will call them quality

by aguy on Jan 7, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

We won 0

Chris Johnson wasn’t good when we faced them. Pats beat the Jets twice. Don’t even try to say they aren’t good

by JayBruce32 on Jan 8, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

They blew out teams

over the course of a season, point differential is a pretty strong indicator of how good a team is and how well they’ll do against better competition.

The top teams destroy weak teams, on average. Then in games between two top teams, the margins are closer and you get the “any given Sunday” effect. Not saying the Pats will win. But their many blowout wins are more an indicator of being a top team. The Bengals beat nobody who made the playoffs, and blew out nobody, and ended up with a point differential about zero. There’s a big difference (on average) when you have those two results to compare.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 8, 2012 3:02 AM EST up reply actions  

The Patriots played two teams all season with a winning record

The Steelers and the Giants…both games they lost. They too had 0 wins against teams with a winning, plus .500, record, at least, the Bengals had 1.

Also, consider this, Brady is in fact, the OC de facto. Yeah, you can say O’Brien or McDaniels are the OC, but don’t tell me Brady does not have input or an opportunity to change plays when he sees it. Dalton, is a rookie, Brady is in his 11th season, he has had plenty of history with people like Welker, Gronkowski, Hernandez, etc. Of course, they are going to blow out opponents and run up scores. You can not compare an 11-year veteran to a rookie, that is ridiculous, sorry. :)

by pemci on Jan 8, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry JayBruce32...

but the week after Chris Johnson played us, he had 130 yds rushing and 44 yards receiving. Did Chris Johnson have a down season this year? Absolutely. However, to say he was not good when he faced us, is taking away credit from what our D did against him. And Yes, the Jets were not that good.

by pemci on Jan 8, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

One more point JayBruce

Chris Johnson: 1047 yds rushing (only 20 less than Benson) and 418 yds receiving. He may have had a down year, but he was still a force to contend with and our D, which at the time we played them was much healthier then we are now, did a good job in containing him.

by pemci on Jan 8, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

JayBruce and aguy are a couple or something

aguy did mention at one point that they were sitting next to each other. You will never get through to these two. They are best just ignored.

by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 8, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure didnt defend Palmer

and I didn’t have irrational hate for him either. What does Crocker playing horribly have to do with Marvin. You honestly think without Andy or Marvin we would have even come close to the playoffs?? If you think we would have you are either lying or delusional. Can Brady and Bill too since they didn’t beat any “quality” teams.

AJ Green = Optimus Prime

by Helmsy on Jan 7, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Aguy...

trolling again..get lost you LOSER!

by pemci on Jan 7, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

whoa whoa whoa

no reason to start calling names my good sir. Not each other at least.

by aguy on Jan 7, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

No. Failed defense is failed defense

But a 51.7 rating is complete QB fail. Yates had 97. He’s a rookie too. And a 3rd stringer… Dalton throws it to Green and prays regardless of whether he is in single, double, or triple coverage. And he took some stupid sacks. Scoring 10 points isn’t enough to win a game. period. Offense needs to put points up and possess the damn ball so the defense isn’t on the field the whole game. Marvin is at fault too. And Gruden. Pathetic play calling. Less this game and more during the entire season.

by aguy on Jan 7, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Dalton and the offense weren’t good enough. That’s why we lost. Our defense was by far the best part of our team this year. Prove what I said wrong, and I’ll stop talking, but you can’t because I’m right

by aguy on Jan 7, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I am going to ignore you.

Somehow you have this vendetta against Dalton, and you are not worth my time. F-YOU!

by pemci on Jan 7, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Dalton on his third INT

“I was told to throw it to AJ.” wow way to stand up and take the blame. What a leader

by JayBruce32 on Jan 8, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

When he throws three picks and gives the Texans the lead with a pick-6

yes he’s part of it. And takes sacks that kill drives. Keeps a tired defense on the field against one of the best RB’s in the leagues

by aguy on Jan 7, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Really dude?

he was making passes yesterday (and all season) Palmer couldn’t make in his dreams. And as a rookie, to lead this 4-12 team back to the playoffs behind a patchwork offensive line (the RG play this year has been atrocious), you want to blame him?

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by Blue Steel on Jan 8, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Guess what Yates had

A solid running game…guess what Andy didn’t have a solid running game.

AJ Green = Optimus Prime

by Helmsy on Jan 7, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The defense wasn't the problem

They went into halftime tied 10 all. Dalton had yet another pass hit at the line of scrimmage and lost the game. He led the league in passes knocked down. He was miserable and that’s being honest. His passer rating improved once he got a lot of yards in garbage time

by JayBruce32 on Jan 8, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

You are what you are. I bet you were waiting for baited breath

to come here and slam Dalton. And I can see I was right by your first post. You are not wanted/needed here. You don’t like this team, so why are you even here!

by pemci on Jan 7, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That ain’t gonna happen, it would be nice but ain’t gonna happen! I call him 3 and out Marv

by RA59 on Jan 7, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Marvin Lewis did not lose this game today.

We have a very young team who got whipped today by a better team. On 3rd and short, this team is horrible because our 2 starting guards simply sucked all year. Bobbie is ok but he is old and not as explosive as in the past. This team needs a WR to put beside AJ Green. Simpson is a number 3 at best. This team needs a FS who can cover and letting Joseph go came back to bite us in the ass. We should have 5 picks in the top 100 not to mention some money to throw around during free agency.

Kenneth Lewis Moore

by lightskin350 on Jan 7, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

+10

AJ Green = Optimus Prime

by Helmsy on Jan 7, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

WTF?

Marvin did lose this game.
I’ve been the one that has stuck up for Marvin the most, but he can’t get over that hump…

by WHYUS!! on Jan 7, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

.

How about missed tackles, subpar secondary, crappy guards on the O-line, crappy RB. This game was NOT Daltons fault in the least. He is a rookie and took the Bengals to the playoffs with virtually no running game and one consistent WR. Dalton is our QB for the future and I’m glad. He has tremendous upside. Marvin is not to blame either. This team came ready to play. Look at the first half we outplayed them. They had a few breaks go their way and that is all it takes sometimes. He threw the challenges early yeas but that didn’t cost us the in any way.

AJ Green = Optimus Prime

by Helmsy on Jan 7, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris Crocker!

Period, he was horrible in this game…

by pemci on Jan 7, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed. But he has been decent overall this season

Pacman was bad. Nelson played better the last half of the season, but not that great. We need safeties and a CB. And a #2 receiver. I want a QB but I’ll keep dreaming

by aguy on Jan 7, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say it was Daltons

fault. It was Marvin’s fault, his team and must be prepared to play and was certainly not prepared, again…..

by WHYUS!! on Jan 7, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

No I copied and pasted from my earlier post

Just pay attention to the Marvin part. They came out in the 1st quarter ready to for sure though

AJ Green = Optimus Prime

by Helmsy on Jan 7, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

texans

keep talking trash, You wont be in the playoffs much longer hahaha.

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by 77CincyRage on Jan 7, 2012 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

22 years no playoff wins

by Bfritts45 on Jan 7, 2012 7:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

sorry guys

cowboys fan here in nky, always want to see your team do well. sucks to see a game like this.

but at the same time, you guys have a lot to build on (small comfort right now, i know). no one expected the playoffs for you guys this year, and you proved you were good enough to get there. just have to keep trucking. there will be a rainbow eventually, to paraphrase mr. burns.

by johnnypocket on Jan 7, 2012 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

Being the optimist

Rookie QB, rookie WR, rookie OC, worst owner in pro sports = not bad overall
They’ll be back!

by DonMegga on Jan 7, 2012 7:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

He had a very bad game, yes.

There needs to be competition for the MIKE.

by Cry on Jan 7, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like

A full offseason at MLB will really straighten mal out and get him to where he should be.

Besides.. we need oline secondary rb and maybe wr help.. out d front 7 is the best unit on the team.

by TheVilified on Jan 7, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Luke Kuechly could be competition if he falls....

Hometown favorite!!

Paul Brown Stadium, where everyone's hopes go to die.

by DTFCPDX on Jan 7, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

F@ck this!!!

I would bring Odell Thurman back.. He has proved to be stable now. We need someone and being desperate is what Bengals fans are. We need a play maker…
I don’t care what others say, b/c this is the icing on the cake. This performance is the ultimate let down. I could understand if this was a close game, but it wasn’t. They handed us a ass—————-ng….
there is not one of you out there that can convince me otherwise. The coaching was horrid and the outcome was worse.

I’m talking out ny ass right now, but later, i doubt things will change. This team needs a new head Coach… It’s obvious, people!!

by WHYUS!! on Jan 7, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

sucks

Dont forget crocker and pacman. I dont want to see them ever again in our uniform. Were stuck with lewis unfort. If there are no drastic trades up we need to address secondary and o line with out first four picks.

by Jog73 on Jan 7, 2012 9:18 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

that was the 2nd TD pacman has given up all year

But glad to see that your not a typical one game knee jerk reaction kind of Bengals fan….

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by TruWhoDey on Jan 7, 2012 10:45 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

76

That is how many yards rushing the Bengals had ALL game.
Benson and Scott 13 carries for 25 yards…how is that helping your QB?

by pemci on Jan 7, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

THANK YOU to

ANDY DALTON and AJ GREEN for making this a very memorable year. We were picked to win 0 games by some of the so called experts, and we managed to go 9-7 and be in the playoffs. Thank you to the defense as well, Geno Atkins, Carlos Dunlap, Jonathan Fanene, Michael Johnson, Thomas Howard and many more. We never gave up and never stopped playing. It did not end the way we would have liked, but how many of us really thought we would be 9-7 and in the playoffs no less. We have a nice base from where to start, a QB that is resourceful, an Elite WR, a good Defensive LIne, now we just need to add a few guards, a better safety and better running backs, we have a good foundation to start our future….

by pemci on Jan 7, 2012 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

This argument over Dalton is lame.

Have you seen the Texans offensive line? Its one of the most COMPLETE lines in the NFL. Run blocking and Pass blocking. Yates had Foster, Tate, Andre Johnson. Dalton has Green. Our interior line is horrible. No running game.A backup guard and Livings. Our defense was working with 3rd and 4th string corners and Crocker. Also, to mention… the interception for a touchdown is on Livings. Its common technique to not let a DT sit, you engage them and keep them from jumping. Livings- is horrible. Dalton needs helps so he doesn’t have to go boom or bust. One more thing. Our offense was Dalton and Green both rookies. I also don’t think Gruden is that special. Excited for this off season!

by Cincinnati222 on Jan 8, 2012 6:37 AM EST reply actions  

that was the RG on that play

who is slightly more valuable than a speed bump. I don’t think Livings is horrible, but I’d like to see him as a backup.

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by Blue Steel on Jan 8, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

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