Five Stages of Grief for Bengals Fans: Denial
There's no way that we just got destroyed by the Houston Texans in the playoffs. That's impossible. The Bengals have a solid defense and they played so well against the run in Week 14. Rey Maualuga was a beast. This can't be happening.
You know what? I bet that this was a really long and weird dream. I bet when I open my eyes it will be Saturday morning and the Bengals will be warming up and things will be different. I bet they'll win and then one day I'll tell my friends about how I had this terrible dream and we'll all laugh about it while we celebrate a playoff victory.
This has to be a dream. I mean there's no way that Chris Crocker can play that bad. There's no way that Cedric Benson can run seven times for only 14 yards. There's no way that J.J. Watt can intercept a pass that close to Andy Dalton and run it back for a touchdown. There's no way that Andre Johnson makes Adam Jones look like a child on a long touchdown catch. There's no way that Arian Foster has a huge game against a good defense.
Right? I mean those things happen sometimes, but not all of them at once. That's impossible. It better be impossible. Hopefully my alarm clock goes off soon so I can wake up. I'm sure when I do, everything will be fine.
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Oh man...there aren't actually going to be FIVE of these posts today, are there?
That’s just cruel. Come on.
Since I saw all that stuff on tv
it’s pretty tough to be in denial.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 8, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
And there were times throughout the season where this is how the Bengals played
No surprise to me, good at beating bad teams, not so much vs. a quality opponent.
Thanks
Thanks for the positive posts, Its good to see how smart are writers are.
Do you know what a super man Ass Whooping is ?... Its the type of Ass Whooping you wish you could Fly away from !....
nobody forces you to read what our writers write.
by JCompton41 on Jan 8, 2012 11:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well that a no brainer
And by this authors post its obvious he has no brain.
Do you know what a super man Ass Whooping is ?... Its the type of Ass Whooping you wish you could Fly away from !....
battered housewife syndrome
the bengals didnt beat you that bad this year….you want more
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 8, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Seriously?
Way to come across as a total douche. By the way, it’s “our” not “are,” smart guy.
"I thought, 'Ball, please get down and into my hands.'"
-AJ Green
by Jaegner on Jan 8, 2012 1:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks for pointing out what was MENT to be there
Yes i did that on purpose, thanks for being the only one to speak on it.
Real smart of you.
Do you know what a super man Ass Whooping is ?... Its the type of Ass Whooping you wish you could Fly away from !....
Yeah, okay.
I bet you did.
"I thought, 'Ball, please get down and into my hands.'"
-AJ Green
by Jaegner on Jan 8, 2012 4:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Deny all you want.
This was a young team. A team that by rights should have been 5-11 or 6-10, but was in the playoffs playing with “house money”.
They got to the playoffs by not looking like a young team led by and offensively coached by rookies.
They left the playoffs exactly because they looked like a young team overwhelmed.
I’m not in denial. Yesterday was a Bowl Game, that mythical thing they talk about in college where it’s a “reward for a good season”.
I’m 42 years old and this season the first time in a very, very long time that they looked like a professional football team. When they won in 05 and 09 they felt like frauds when they were doing it. 2011 was the first time that felt like they were winning because they’d earned it.
For the first time in decades I’m not resetting myself today to justify paying attention next season. Not making excuses and ignoring the glaring inconsistencies.
They’ll draft at 17 and assuming Denver loses today, they’ll draft at 22. I am more excited by this team after this loss than I have been in an exceptional amount of time.
So, Garrison, enjoy your “It would be funny to bitch about a team that far exceeded your expectations all year with the five stages of grief.” I, for one am enthused about the future.
Absolutely agree with you!
I am 44 and I am excited about the future of this team. Far more than I was in 2005 or 2009…
Me too!
I agree 100%! I admit I was disappointed at how we played yesterday but this morning I woke up with a feeling of optimism which was only reinforced after reading all the postgame quotes from the players.
Coming into this season I thought we might win 2 or 3 games tops and maybe be decent in a few years. At this point I think we have a chance to make it to the superbowl next year if we have a good draft, decent offseason and Shipley and Hall come back healthy.
by NJ Bengals fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I've been a fan longer than you
and I would not say 2005 was less legit than this team.
In 2005 if Carson Palmer was not hurt that team could have made a trip to the Super Bowl. (Granted it might have required kidnapping Bresnahan in a burlap sack…)
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 8, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
After reflection of last nights game
At first….I was just grateful for being there and having a chance in the playoffs
now…I am kinda pissed…we looked absolutely terrible last night…on all sides of the ball..
we played bad, bad coaching, playcalling and preperation
This goes back to my overall point on Marvin….Yes he has turned some things around with this team and had a great draft….but honestly…can you guys see him winning a superbowl? do you really? WE CAN NEVER WIN A BIG GAME….>EVER….
and arent you guys tired of this look???? I know I am…..now is the time to make a change…………….now

"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
I am not taking away from this season
I was very happy with our team….Its just Marvin, in my opinion has a ceiling….and he has reached it……
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 8, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I was talking to some Texans fans...
about the old rivalry between the Bengals and Oilers, and ended up remembering how passionate Sam Wyche used to be. He seemed to have the team really fired up. I think these young guys can really benefit from passion like that – as opposed to a cold, methodical coach who’s inspirational methods frankly seem a little tired, cliche and might work better on a high school team than a group of adults playing for money.
I’m pretty torn now — I know the team under Marvin blew the ceiling off expectations, but I feel like I’m getting close to where I’m going to stop being an apologist for him, unless things pick up next season.
Agree...
Marvin has reached his ceiling. And that look is getting old. This team will have loads of talent in the next couple years, so i quess we will wait and see what the excuses will be then. Im 45 and was lucky to see some good and very competitve years. I just hope the younger fans are going to be able to enjoy the same some day.
+1
lol…I am very positive about our teams future…heres to a great offseason….whodey
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 8, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Marvin needs game management lessons.
Do they have classes for that?
by MCSubtext on Jan 8, 2012 11:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Again, as I said before...this game came down to two things
1) JJ Watt makes a superb INT and return for a TD…17-10
2) Crocker fails to make an INT, and the Texans go on and score a TD…24-10
Crocker makes that INT, this is a totally different game….
how many times are we going to keep doing this
we WOULD OF WON if: insert something we did stupid here _______
its been the same for 10 years
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 8, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
I know you are frustrated but that turnover and our
inability to make a turnover when we had a chance was the ball game right there..
However, we have a good, foundation to build on and we need to take advantage of that. Trust me, I am pissed as well, but how many times do you hear it comes down to one or two plays that change the outcome of a game? These two were absolutely it, IMO…however you may disagree, and that is okay. We don’t have to agree on everything….
I agree with you about our good foundation
We now KNOW what we have and can work to fix the weaknesses…I am just tired of not EVER winning a big game….tired of it
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 8, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
If ifs and buts were candies and nuts
The Bengals would have seven Lombardi trophies.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 8, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
jj watt doesnt make that superb play
without mcglynn standing there like some juco player. if mcglynn is starting in 2012, alexander needs to be fired unless mcglynn turns into a solid player next season.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
Big IF....
McGlyn is a FA, and I think I read somewhere that this was Alexander’s last year on his contract…
good, hope the door hits them both in the butt
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
as I mentioned on the other thread
Marvin is out of excuses next year. We have a full offseason and plenty of draft picks to fill holes. Our offense skill positions and defense are good enough to win with. We have to address the O-Line and get a running back. After making the playoffs we will have some prime time games. It is either time for him to prove that we can win on the big stage and win a playoff game, or look elsewhere.
by D-Day77 on Jan 8, 2012 11:43 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
we have a ton of holes
if the bengals do nothing in fa and attempt to fill all the holes with just the draft, we’re in trouble. can’t blame it all on marvin if the team stands pat in the off season and holds it purse strings. imagine opening day 2012. starting rb bernard scott, starting safeties mays and sands, starting guard mcglynn, etc. easy way for this thing to go sideways.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
Isn't there a required amount to be spent in the new CBA?
I think some FA would be well worth the investment…. (NOT McGlyn!)
not until 2013
there is only a min floor for the whole league next season. individual teams can spend as little as 52x league minimum if they choose. the league has to make up the shortfall if that min number isn’t hit. there are so many teams bumping into the cap though, the shortfall won’t happen in 2012.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
i wouldnt mind mays or sands getting a shot
But free agency needs to get a starter, and then 3 starters in the draft. That should mean 4 positions are going to be upgraded.
by JCompton41 on Jan 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
really need nelson back
and a real ss. crocker aint it. he’s depth at most.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
yea i dont see nelson going anywhere
And sands or Mays getting a shot at ss wouldn’t make me to mad.
by JCompton41 on Jan 8, 2012 12:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
depends what sort of fa offers he gets
not seeing brown willing to pay reggie a ton. so a team like the vikes which need a ton of help in their secondary might be able to pluck reggie away for 4-6 million a year.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
true
I just don’t see it. He shouldnt get a huge contract anywhere, so I think Bengals pay him what he gets anywhere else. But teams are always willing to pay if they like a guy, and you’re right if they overpay we won’t match that.
by JCompton41 on Jan 8, 2012 2:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He'll find new excuses
it’s the Bengal way.
And fans will buy them. It’s the Bengal fan way.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Jan 8, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Were Dunlap and Johnson even in the game?
We were know for our great DL rotation through the season but it looked like Faneane (sp) was the only one getting rotated in. Atkins and Peko played very well but they were both on the sideline sucking oxygen.
Also, do you think they even let Crocker on the plane back. Between the bad angle on the Johnson TD, the missed pick, and the escort he gave Foster down the sideline, they better not even think of resigning him.
Why did they not get Gresham in the game until it was too late? Even the announcers were boggled by how much we has been under utilized.
Gresham has to stay in and block because our line is terrible.
Our D- line was beat up, our secondary was thin. We failed to take advantage of momentum or arrest it when it wasn’t in our favor. The coaching staff failed to calm the team. They panicked.
by D-Day77 on Jan 8, 2012 11:57 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
i'm not really sure when alexander has to be held accountable
18 seasons as cincy’s o-line coach, and the o-line problems are starting to wear on me.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
+1
Crocker……enjoy your NFL locker….as you clean it out…..
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 8, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Fully agree!
Thank you, but good bye….same thing to Livings and McGlyn…
Too true...
7 carries for 14 yards, plus 1 rec for -2 yards…
Seriously? Seriously?! This is a playoff game and these are your numbers? I would be ashamed…and I can not see how they bring Benson back, we need to get more out of our running game than what Benson and Scott were able to produce. Although, Scott did have 29 yards on 3 receptions, Benson just did nothing. He got the TD, but that was it…
benson's a premier rb
heard that on espn last week..
really its true…
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
hell
i’d help clean out benson’s locker if they would let me. i’d have had that locker packed a bout 10 months ago.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
I don't know how anyone on here can be really mad right now...
I mean, yeah, of course it’s frustrating to lose, but to look at our team and say we should be going to the Super Bowl isn’t right. I mean, maybe sometime in the future we will ;), but for now, I’m happy we even made the playoffs. There’s no need to be mad, because our team is only going to go up from here.
+1
The Bengals weren’nt expected to win 4 games this year. They far exceeded expectations and are building a pretty solid foundation for years to come. Put it this way, if the Bengals didn’t make it to the playoffs (went 8-8), would everyone be as upset as they are now? Sure, I’m disappointed they lost, but I’m not feeling like I did in previous playoff losses where it almost felt expected and “here we go again.” No, I’m excited for next year and feeling pretty good about years to come.
I'm mad for one reason
I wanted to see if Marvin Lewis had finally progressed enough as a head coach to get to a point where I felt comfortable with him leading a team into the post season. With all the young players, the odds were always stacked against us actually winning once we got there, but I wanted to see something confidence-building out of Marvin. Instead, he gave us possibly his worst game ever. I have no doubt that Dalton and AJ and Gresham and Atkins and Dunlap will progress. I have no doubt that we’ll add more good young talent with our FA money and high draft picks. But We shouldn’t be praying for development from our 9 YEAR HEAD COACH anymore. He should be a seasoned veteran on the sideline, and he has now shown us that he routinely wilts in big games. I didn’t see anything yesterday that would make me think he’ll ever show us anything different, even if our young players develop into a playoff caliber team year after year. All I wanted was a good showing yesterday to prove to me the BASIC pieces were in place, starting with the head coach. I didn’t see that. I have more questions than answers today and that is the biggest failure that could have come out of yesterday.
not mad....
just disappointed on how we finished the game. We outplayed them in the first half them self destructed giving me flashbacks of our last 2 playoff games. I didn’t expect this team go go deep in the playoffs but I did expect them to go 60 min against a Houston team with a 3rd string QB and no Mario Williams.
by smoormandiddy on Jan 8, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.. Not mad, but disappointed on how it ended...
As for TJ, he only had 11 completions on 20 attempts, just slightly over 50%, but he had a running game, something that Dalton did not have. In fact, Dalton outrushed both Benson and Scott…
good point
Yates only had to make a few safe throws. When we failed to stop the run, we were doomed.
by smoormandiddy on Jan 8, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
wellllll
i’m happy as hell about going 9-7. still po’d about losing jojo (i’ll get over it, might take me a few years) and then losing both games to the ravens (grrr). was a great season to be a bengals fan though.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
take your hat off to the Texans O-line
They are the reason that team made the playoffs with a third string quarterback and UDFA running back. Their defense was not much better than ours.
by D-Day77 on Jan 8, 2012 12:01 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
texans won both battles of the lines yesterday
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
+1
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 8, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not in denial. I’m looking forward to watching our rookie QB and WR in the probowl. I can’t wait to see how free agency and the draft unfold. The team will get to experience an actual offseason of preparation. How bout the guys in the ranks like Otis Hudson, Armon Binns, Dontay Moch, Roddrick Muckelroy, Clint Boling. What of IR can come back and make a difference with the likes of Jordan Shipley, Keith Rivers, Pat Sims and Bo Scaife.
We have a ton of young talent and I think this wild card game can be looked at as a great learning experience. If you take yourself back to August, would you be happy to hear we would go 9-7 and get a wild card berth?
I just can’t be upset when it was obvious in the offseason that they were starting over to a certain extent. It’s hard to change things overnight. The foundation is set for sustained success.
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by Gold Star Chili Cheese Fries on Jan 8, 2012 12:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
What is up with Dontay Moch?
If he can not get his “headaches” under control, I am not sure how he can get better…with him, Muckleroy, Hudson and Boling, we can get a step up over some guys that were on this team. I am not sure about Binns or Hazleton…I did not see enough of them in College…I did see that the Eagles signed Gilyard though….
hard to say
cincy is really bad for allergies (living in chicago’s airborne pollution). sometimes migraines can be traced back to allergies. sometimes other immunity issues, sinus conditions, etc. could be 100 different reasons moch is suffering from them. could also derail his career. cincy will have to move on from moch at some point if he can’t play through the migraines or manage them.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
Reminds me of guys liked
Dennis Weathersby…Adam Kieft….guys that had potential, but due to bad luck, never were able to show what they could do on the field…
oh no you didnt bring this guy up
I actually drove down to camp to watch this guy…yeah….I know
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 8, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
we definitely need a better o line and running back
We need to control the clock better and depend on our passing game a little less. Were not that far from having a solid o line. Dalton needs to read his progressions quicker and the rebuilding of our interior line through the draft and FA signings should aid his development.
by DEWITT330 on Jan 8, 2012 12:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
this team has leadership for the first time.
Andy is a leader, peko is a real defensive leader, whit has stepped up as a leader. Who were the leaders on the 09 or 10 team? I think that’s going to be the difference in this team.
by JCompton41 on Jan 8, 2012 12:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Dalton better team player than Palmer
Charlie Cassery on the radio down here in Houston talking about how Palmer was selfish in locker room. It was a dysfunctional bunch.
the locker room had to be dysfunctional
Palmer, ocho, to, housh, pacman. Palmer couldn’t lead, he let everyone else do what they wanted and wouldn’t step up. The teams not like that anymore. Sure we have a few things, pacmans tantrum, but still love his emotion. We don’t have our qbs and reciever yelling at eachother on the sidelines anymore. I really think the new leadership on the team will make this team a constant playoff team.
by JCompton41 on Jan 8, 2012 12:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The "hey we should have been 5-11" is not good enough
We lost to a very predictable team and left about 10 plays out there on the field.
Probably the worst part of all of this is the regression of Dalton. I hope he comes out on fire next year and doesnt turn out like Sanchez. I am no way giving up on him, but he has looked very average lately and I hope he continues to improve. Hopefully a real offseason will help too..
To throw out that kind of execution is just sad. At least we have the draft and mandatory spending coming down the line
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
A non-existent run game doesn't help matters
Is it the O-Line or the HB? Neither looked good. And if the Bengals can’t establish a run then Dalton is going to struggle. Look at what Foster and Tate did for Yates.
I hear everybody saying stay positive
But what have they shown for us to stay positve? fans excuses are that they were young, rookie qb, rookie wr etc… Ny jets were a young team when they won playoff game. They had rookie qb, a rookie Head Coach young te etc… Point is they played to their strengths. Marvin yesterday at halftime said the bengals need to turn those 2yard gains into 4-5 yard runs. why do he think benson can do that, when they haven’t ALL YEAR? First drive they had after halfime they went 3 and out. Gresh doesnt get a catch untill final minute into the 3rd quarter.
I know its easy to sit here and critque a coach but come on. I love the Bengals to death been a season ticket holder with my dad since 99, I cant keep watching Marvin blow games with his coaching. Even though the WHOLE team yesterday didnt play well.
by cincyboi on Jan 8, 2012 1:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Cant wait till next year though. No excuses!
by cincyboi on Jan 8, 2012 1:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1
05 it was because carson got hurt, 09 we didnt have a solid #2 wr. And this year they were young and weren’t suppose to even be there. But they were they and played & coached like they weren’t suppose to be there. EVERY team has holes. NO ONE has the “perfect” team, but they find a WAY.
by cincyboi on Jan 8, 2012 1:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No back is going to be good with our guards.
That’s one of the reasons Scott has been getting more carries. They’ve been trying to run off tackle more. Benson didn’t have a chance in hell after Williams went down. We need a back that can catch a damn ball. The pass Benson dropped in the 1st wouldve been 6 if he caught it. Gresham had to stay into block because they had the box STACKED 90% of the game. He finally got some catches when they backed the D off. All that comes down to pissy line play.
by Bigcatdaddy on Jan 8, 2012 1:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Judging by the threads last night....
I think everyone skipped ahead to the “anger” stage. I think we had a good season, that surpassed any/all expectations. We have a lot to look forward to and should hold our heads high. We just have to not have a let down next year, which has been typical in recent years.
"The next person you see that throws something, point em out! You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!"
- Sam Wyche
by The Van Buren Boys on Jan 8, 2012 1:13 PM EST reply actions
My last post then im out to spend time with my family
Andy Dalton said on his 3rd int yesterday, coaches TOLD him to go to AJ. So even if he has 2 or 3 guys on him he had to go to him. He had to listen to his coaches. have they been telling him this all year?? How many times this year have we seen another reciever open but he stares down AJ and throws to him? Was he told to do that? IMO BAD COACHING. Marvin last year next year, hope they dont resign him
im out fellas, wish you all well. Go REDS!
by cincyboi on Jan 8, 2012 1:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
One of those ints was a good move
It was on 4th down and they got pressure right up the middle. If Dalton takes a sack they have good field position. Instead he threw it up to give us a chance at a catch. Yeah it got picked but it was just as good as a punt. Good thinking under pressure by the young man IMO.
by Bigcatdaddy on Jan 8, 2012 1:31 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Thats not the interception im referring to.
The one your talking about is his 2nd int. Which was a good play on his part. Im talking about when the safety picked him off. They were in cover 2 J joe jammed him and was playing underneath safety over top. But the point is why tell Andy who to theow it to? Let him make the read and let him find the open guy.
read the transcript on bengals.com. They asked him about his 3rd int and he said " I was told to throw to AJ" imo thats dumb
by cincyboi on Jan 8, 2012 1:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That int wasn't really his fault
One of those picks the slot receiver fell down. The saftey had the slot in man coverage as soon as he fell the safety peeled off and jumped on AJ.
by Bigcatdaddy on Jan 8, 2012 3:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
really hard to judge gruden and his gameplan based off of 1 season
short preseason too. i did feel the bengals went too much with the one dimensional green jump ball from around week 5-7. not sure when it became the clutch play, it happened this season. don’t like the gamble ball, shouldn’t have become a part of this offense either. they used it too much.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
It was a long walk out of Reliant last night
I’ve had a secret concern about Dalton all season and last night he put my doubts to bed. The kid is the REAL DEAL. If he had more time he would be dangerous. Every time they brought pressure it came right over our guards. They need to get better from Guard to Guard or no matter who’s running the ball it’s not going to work. Rey really got exposed last night. When the defense plays better with a STer at middle it’s bad. Didn’t Jones lead the team in tackles a few years? Middle lber is to big of a position to not get production out of. Crocker played horrible at best. Everyone saw the dropped int and he really didn’t get run over on the td run, he just pussed out on trying to tackle Foster. One arm shoves aren’t going to do it. Almost every time they ran around the edge they got big yrds cause they ran right at Crocker. He took the worst angles I’ve ever seen. Instead of trying to force the back to the inside where you have help he bonzied right in the middle of blockers allowing the runner to get the edge. The Texan D stacked the box 90% of the game and AJ was taking it to JJ and we only tried to go deep to him once! Why? The play calling didn’t impress me at all. Hell, the only thing I know is this team is good abd with some help at a few spots can be great. Even though we lost I’m still proud of this team and it’s accomplishments.
by Bigcatdaddy on Jan 8, 2012 1:18 PM EST via Android app reply actions
he's got great field awareness
gamer attitude too.
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
i went through all five during the game
I’m already at acceptance, this team has a great upside and should have a bright future, the scary thing about it is that we still have the same front office well capable f*ing it all up
by whodeydoc on Jan 8, 2012 1:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Could of said that after the 09 season
They swept the division had a good draft with gresh, dunlap. Had two solid corners, a top defense. But what happen? Yeah they have a bright future with the players. But your only as strong as your leader. And Marvin is WEAK
by cincyboi on Jan 8, 2012 1:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
just read on pft
Zimmer is a leading candidate for the Dolphins H.C. position, they are apparently moving on from Jeff Fisher
Im not sold on Zimmer!!!
Guy gets too much credit for nothing actually. He’s been lucky with other teams first not panning out for different reasons. We had close to I believe 8 former 1st rounders plus Mays, Dunlap, Atkins, Rey, Johnson on defense and couldn’t stop anybody all year. If u really wanna be honest I can’t count five pass defensed all year. The closet player to come close I believe was JENNINGS!!! Crocker played terrible all year and Zimmer loves him!!! You telling me Mays, Miles, Sands all worse? That’s same stupid shit o-line coach did with Livings. Zimmer can leave along with linebackers, db’s, and o-line coach. Bring somebody in new, Marvin can help with defense more with Gruden running offense. You get couple dbs, lb, VETERAN GUARDS, ss, 2 rbs, Wr, and one STUD running stopping DT.
by pray4gm11 on Jan 8, 2012 2:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Not in denial but the OP and many others sure were
Denial of the 9-7 Bengals were really going to progress far in the playoffs when they couldn’t win key games vs. playoff bound teams even at home. They were happy to back into the playoffs and while they played well at times they just are too young and not enough weapons to compete in 2011. Maybe in 2012 they will improve but they have to play better vs. quality opponents before I will jump on the bandwagon.
That's not denial
that’s just having some faith in your team
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jan 9, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions

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